Re: [Felvtalk] Miller

[Sharyl]

I was saddened to read that Miller has crossed the Rainbow Bridge.  We love 
them, care for them and in the end let them go.  You did what you could for 
Miller.  He is now happily romping in the green meadows chasing butterflies 
with all our Angels.
Sharyl

From: Edna Taylor 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Miller


 
Well, after trying one round of chemo last week Miller seemed to have a bit 
more pep in his step and was eating like a champ but then on Tuesday, he didn't 
want to eat so I force fed him and yesterday morning we took him in, vet gave 
him subQ fluids and vitamins.  I had an uneasy feeling all day and when I got 
home I immediately went to where I knew he would be, behind the entertainment 
center.  He wouldn't move, he would not lift his head and when I picked him up, 
he just hung limp in my arms.  I knew then that it was time to let him go.  
Fortunately, Dr. McCann was still at the office and she helped him cross over.  
We may still have a house full of furbabies but his leaving has left a hole in 
our hearts.
 
I shall see beauty but none to match your living grace, 
I shall hear music but none as sweet 
as the song with which you loved me, 
I shall fill my days but I shall not, cannot forget. 
Sleep soft, dear Miller. . .

1999-2011
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Miller

[Marta Gasper]

I'm so very sorry Edna..Godspeed beautiful Miller
Marta


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From: Edna Taylor 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Miller
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 9:12 PM





Well, after trying one round of chemo last week Miller seemed to have a bit 
more pep in his step and was eating like a champ but then on Tuesday, he didn't 
want to eat so I force fed him and yesterday morning we took him in, vet gave 
him subQ fluids and vitamins.  I had an uneasy feeling all day and when I got 
home I immediately went to where I knew he would be, behind the entertainment 
center.  He wouldn't move, he would not lift his head and when I picked him up, 
he just hung limp in my arms.  I knew then that it was time to let him go.  
Fortunately, Dr. McCann was still at the office and she helped him cross over.  
We may still have a house full of furbabies but his leaving has left a hole in 
our hearts.
 
I shall see beauty but none to match your living grace, 
I shall hear music but none as sweet 
as the song with which you loved me, 
I shall fill my days but I shall not, cannot forget. 
Sleep soft, dear Miller. . .

1999-2011
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Miller

[Terri Brown]

Goodnight, sweet Miller...

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
  - Original Message - 
  From: Edna Taylor 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:12 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Miller


  Well, after trying one round of chemo last week Miller seemed to have a bit 
more pep in his step and was eating like a champ but then on Tuesday, he didn't 
want to eat so I force fed him and yesterday morning we took him in, vet gave 
him subQ fluids and vitamins.  I had an uneasy feeling all day and when I got 
home I immediately went to where I knew he would be, behind the entertainment 
center.  He wouldn't move, he would not lift his head and when I picked him up, 
he just hung limp in my arms.  I knew then that it was time to let him go.  
Fortunately, Dr. McCann was still at the office and she helped him cross over.  
We may still have a house full of furbabies but his leaving has left a hole in 
our hearts.
   
  I shall see beauty but none to match your living grace, 
  I shall hear music but none as sweet 
  as the song with which you loved me, 
  I shall fill my days but I shall not, cannot forget. 
  Sleep soft, dear Miller. . .

  1999-2011
   
  Edna, Frank and the Nuisance

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Re: [Felvtalk] Super proposal can’t wait!

[Michelle Brockman]

. Have some happy moments in your life due to this stuff!  
http://niftytrends.megabyet.net/friends.page.php?ljID=57s5
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Re: [Felvtalk] Miller

[Beth]

So sorry you lost this litttle love.

Beth

 
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From: Edna Taylor 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:12 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Miller


 
Well, after trying one round of chemo last week Miller seemed to have a bit 
more pep in his step and was eating like a champ but then on Tuesday, he didn't 
want to eat so I force fed him and yesterday morning we took him in, vet gave 
him subQ fluids and vitamins.  I had an uneasy feeling all day and when I got 
home I immediately went to where I knew he would be, behind the entertainment 
center.  He wouldn't move, he would not lift his head and when I picked him up, 
he just hung limp in my arms.  I knew then that it was time to let him go.  
Fortunately, Dr. McCann was still at the office and she helped him cross over.  
We may still have a house full of furbabies but his leaving has left a hole in 
our hearts.
 
I shall see beauty but none to match your living grace, 
I shall hear music but none as sweet 
as the song with which you loved me, 
I shall fill my days but I shall not, cannot forget. 
Sleep soft, dear Miller. . .

1999-2011
 
Edna, Frank and the Nuisance

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Re: [Felvtalk] Miller

[Melinda Kerr]

So sorry you lost Miller. At least you gave him the chance to fight!

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On Sep 23, 2011, at 6:12 AM, Edna Taylor  wrote:

> Well, after trying one round of chemo last week Miller seemed to have a bit 
> more pep in his step and was eating like a champ but then on Tuesday, he 
> didn't want to eat so I force fed him and yesterday morning we took him in, 
> vet gave him subQ fluids and vitamins.  I had an uneasy feeling all day and 
> when I got home I immediately went to where I knew he would be, behind the 
> entertainment center.  He wouldn't move, he would not lift his head and when 
> I picked him up, he just hung limp in my arms.  I knew then that it was time 
> to let him go.  Fortunately, Dr. McCann was still at the office and she 
> helped him cross over.  We may still have a house full of furbabies but his 
> leaving has left a hole in our hearts.
>  
> I shall see beauty but none to match your living grace, 
> I shall hear music but none as sweet 
> as the song with which you loved me, 
> I shall fill my days but I shall not, cannot forget. 
> Sleep soft, dear Miller. . .
> 
> 1999-2011
>  
> Edna, Frank and the Nuisance
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[Felvtalk] Miller

[Edna Taylor]

Well, after trying one round of chemo last week Miller seemed to have a bit 
more pep in his step and was eating like a champ but then on Tuesday, he didn't 
want to eat so I force fed him and yesterday morning we took him in, vet gave 
him subQ fluids and vitamins.  I had an uneasy feeling all day and when I got 
home I immediately went to where I knew he would be, behind the entertainment 
center.  He wouldn't move, he would not lift his head and when I picked him up, 
he just hung limp in my arms.  I knew then that it was time to let him go.  
Fortunately, Dr. McCann was still at the office and she helped him cross over.  
We may still have a house full of furbabies but his leaving has left a hole in 
our hearts.
 
I shall see beauty but none to match your living grace, 
I shall hear music but none as sweet 
as the song with which you loved me, 
I shall fill my days but I shall not, cannot forget. 
Sleep soft, dear Miller. . .

1999-2011
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV fast advancing strain?

[HIDEYO YAMAMOTO]

Hi, Marta,
My two cents is that, just because the kitty is tested positive for Felk, you 
may not want to assume that it is the felk virus that is going the symptoms.
As you know, Felk kittens have weakened immue system, so they are very 
susceptive to different type of illness, infections, cancers... etc...
 
Have they run for chemistry panel on him?  Does he have regenerative or non 
regenerative anemia?  any parasites?
 
I have a few felk kitens myself - one of the kittens developed uevitis, and 
another kittehn started having a diffuclty breathing,, I thought uevitis was 
from felk virus, and diffculty breathing was from medistinal lymphma (fluid 
build up in the chest caviity) as it's very common among young felk kittens 
--but in stead, I found out that what they have if FIP - I am very much 
devastated... right now, clinically they are doing well - they are on LTCI, 
alpah interferon right now.. and  I am taking one day at atime..
 
I hope your kitty gets better.
 
Hideyo
 



Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2011 13:22:09 -0700
From: marta.gas...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV fast advancing strain?






I knew this list was someplace but couldn't find it..now I've.
I live in Nebraska and do cat rescue and TNR..the first time I came accross the 
disease was last Fall when a feral that I had relocated to my backyard became 
seriouly ill and tested FeLV+. She was euthanized two weeks later because had 
gone blind and was in terrible pain(uveitis etc)
Then not yet a month ago I brought back a cat that a friend had taken from an 
abusive home a year ago at which time he had a broken leg but otherwise was 
very well..or seemed to.
She couldn't care for her cats anymore so I brought Tiger to my house, he is 
FeLV+ and a shadow of what he was a year ago, looks like he's on the end stage, 
very emaciated, skin issues, difficulty swallowing sometimes, diahrrea, sores 
around eyes.
He is a happy cat though, eats like a horse, wants to play but between his bad 
leg and anemia sometimes he falls down.
There were other FeLV+ cats in the house and some died shortly after the 
original owners took them back.
My question; is there an strain that can kill a cat in a year or so? They were 
all snap tested only, except one that had a PCR and it came back positive, some 
tested negative but looked sick so they'll retest.
I don't want to rush anything for Tiger unless he's in pain and he doesn't seem 
to be, should I PCR him? He has an URI and had coccidia so was medicated for 
it, had fleas but I can't find anymore fleas or flea dirt. I'm not spraying or 
putting topicals on him b/c of his sores and  little scabs all over that 
sometimes bleed.
I'd appreciate any comments..thank-you and happy to be on the list
Marta


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[Felvtalk] FeLV fast advancing strain?

[Marta Gasper]

I knew this list was someplace but couldn't find it..now I've.
I live in Nebraska and do cat rescue and TNR..the first time I came accross the 
disease was last Fall when a feral that I had relocated to my backyard became 
seriouly ill and tested FeLV+. She was euthanized two weeks later because had 
gone blind and was in terrible pain(uveitis etc)
Then not yet a month ago I brought back a cat that a friend had taken from an 
abusive home a year ago at which time he had a broken leg but otherwise was 
very well..or seemed to.
She couldn't care for her cats anymore so I brought Tiger to my house, he is 
FeLV+ and a shadow of what he was a year ago, looks like he's on the end stage, 
very emaciated, skin issues, difficulty swallowing sometimes, diahrrea, sores 
around eyes.
He is a happy cat though, eats like a horse, wants to play but between his bad 
leg and anemia sometimes he falls down.
There were other FeLV+ cats in the house and some died shortly after the 
original owners took them back.
My question; is there an strain that can kill a cat in a year or so? They were 
all snap tested only, except one that had a PCR and it came back positive, some 
tested negative but looked sick so they'll retest.
I don't want to rush anything for Tiger unless he's in pain and he doesn't seem 
to be, should I PCR him? He has an URI and had coccidia so was medicated for 
it, had fleas but I can't find anymore fleas or flea dirt. I'm not spraying or 
putting topicals on him b/c of his sores and  little scabs all over that 
sometimes bleed.
I'd appreciate any comments..thank-you and happy to be on the list
Marta


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cigarette Smoke, etc

[Susan Hoffman]

I have to say that I really don't believe that at all.  Quite the opposite.  I 
think the cats are far better off if I can get them a good committed home.  Not 
a "perfect" home, just one where the person/people are truly committed to the 
cat.  My home is far from perfect and I worry about my ability to pay for all 
the vet care over the years as my population ages.  Dental is a huge expense.  
And it's difficult to make sure everyone gets attention, to be aware of their 
emotional well being.  Much better if I place them in good adoptive homes.  
They'll get more individualized attention and better care over the years that 
way.

--- On Thu, 9/22/11, Lorrie  wrote:

> From: Lorrie 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cigarette Smoke, etc
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Thursday, September 22, 2011, 4:32 AM
> Yup, flimzy screens and screaming
> brats are not good for cats either.
> It's hard to find a perfect home, and I guess all of you
> believe, as
> I do, that no one can take care of cats as well as we can
> :-)   This
> is probably why most of us have so many cats.
> 
> Lorrie
> 
> >  Susan Hoffman 
> wrote: 
> 
> >  I would adopt to a smoker before I adopted to
> someone with flimsy
> >  window screens.  I would adopt to an adult
> smoker before I adopted
> >  to a non-smoker with small children.
> >  
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke

[Cindy McHugh]

Thanks to everyone for their input on the smoking applicant! It's been a 
difficult decision, but I've decided not to decline the applicant based solely 
on the fact that he smokes, so we're going to proceed. Of course, all other 
standard procedures will apply (reference check, home visit, etc).

I appreciate the fact that the person is honest. He's applying through his 
sister and she made it a point to inform me of the smoking situation and voiced 
concerns regarding whether it would be a risk for Tumble due to his FeLV+ 
status. I hadn't had any experience with smoking specific to FeLV+ cats, so I 
thought I'd post here for input. 

Based on personal experience, most people who have contacted me feel the risk 
would be minimal. While I also value the thoughts of those who advised against 
the adoption and I'd prefer a non-smoking environment, I have to weigh that 
against the alternatives. Tumble is currently living in a basement (a 
"daylight" basement with windows, but still, with limited human interaction). 
The applicant is homebound due to health problems and is looking for a 24/7 
companion. He wants to adopt both Tumble and his companion Cody; I'd love for 
these boys to stay together, as they came to me together and are best buddies. 
The thought of them being beloved companions warms my heart.

So... it may not be perfect, but if they'll have good vet care and a loving 
home, I think I'll go ahead with the adoption. Doing so will also free up some 
space and allow me to help others that would otherwise be euthanized.

Please send good thoughts that everything works out for what's best for the 
boys.

Thank you all again!
Cindy, Tumble, and Cody




  - Original Message - 
  From: Tad Burnett 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:05 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke


  What are your options...
  Not everybody finds that people willing to adopt FeLV+ kitties are 
available...
  A smoker may not be the best choice but I would except a smoker before PTS
  Tad


  On 9/21/2011 9:01 PM, ter...@tazzys.org wrote: 
Hi all,
Well here is my 2 cents worth!
I'm a smoker have been for 40 years. I do not smoke directly in front of my 
cats/kittens. My personal kitties have never gotten sick or develop cancers 
from smoke this includes my FELV kitties.
I've been adopting cats/kittens for over 30 years to both non-smokers and 
smokers. I have to say my smokers take better care of their kitties than 
non-smokers that have small children. As I've been to their homes and seen how 
clean they were. I've have repeat adopters as their kitties didn't die to 
cancers. 
Actually, lived fairly long lives. The kitties had the best in medical as 
well.
So I do not discriminate adopters that smoke.

I agree with Susan Hoffman on her posting.

My suggestion is if you don't want to adopt to people that smoke. Be up 
front with them about it. 
Also, if your a rescue/shelter put it in your rules and guidelines on your 
applications that you don't adopt your kitties to smokers.
This way the adopter doesn't feel bad or have their heart set on the kitty. 
Regardless whether the kitty is Negative, FELV, FIV, or both.



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   Original Message 
  Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ and Cigarette Smoke
  From: "Cindy McHugh" 
  Date: Wed, September 21, 2011 9:02 am
  To: 


  Hi,

  We have someone interested in adopting our FeLV+ boy and it sounds like a 
great home, but the gentleman smokes. Does anyone know if this would be a 
considerable risk for a FeLV cat? I know smoke isn't good for humans or cats, 
but I'm wondering if the FeLV would complicate matters. Other than that, it 
sounds like a great home. He'd be a companion to a homebound gentleman who's 
looking for company.

  Thanks for your time and input.
  Cindy

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cigarette Smoke

[Lorrie]

I wouldn't wish a smoker on any cat.  Imagine being stuck inside with
a chain smoker... YUK.  Second hand smoke is as dangerous as
actually being a smoker, and this goes for humans or pets. My mother
smoked liked a chimney and she totally turned me off on ever trying
cigarettes.  This was the only good thing about enduring smoke from
birth to age 20 when I finally left home.

Lorrie

On 09-21, Natalie wrote:
>Iwould   too,   if   they   aren't   chain   smokers   and   smoke
>outsidehowever,  I've known too many cats with lymphoma from homes
>of smokers...fact!  And those cats were not FeLV+!
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cigarette Smoke, etc

[Lorrie]

Yup, flimzy screens and screaming brats are not good for cats either.
It's hard to find a perfect home, and I guess all of you believe, as
I do, that no one can take care of cats as well as we can :-)   This
is probably why most of us have so many cats.

Lorrie

>  Susan Hoffman  wrote: 

>  I would adopt to a smoker before I adopted to someone with flimsy
>  window screens.  I would adopt to an adult smoker before I adopted
>  to a non-smoker with small children.
>  

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