Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur
Animals (and people) with any heart problems need CoQ10 desperately! Between 30 mg and 50 mg daily! One of our cats has cardiomyopathy and renal failure she was diagnosed 1 ½ yrs. ago. Shes on a few drugs and sub-q fluids and I also supplement her with CoQ10 shes doing really well. We dont know how long shes had the problem shes about 12 yrs. old now. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kat Parker Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 10:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur There are varying degrees of heart murmurs in cats. They are measures in fractions of 6. For instance, a 2 out of 6, or 2/6, is not as serious a a 4/6. We had a cat who was diagnosed with a murmur, and we did not have the money to get further testing done on him at that time because he was fresh off the street, A stray that just followed me inside one day after I had fed him. lol He looked awful, mainly because he had been living as a stray with a bad flea allergy. What a fantastic cat he proved to be! Well, all was ell for about 6 months, then he started fainting (syncope), and we were told to get the echo done. We did, at a specialist here in San Diego, with the help of some awesome MySpace friends and a chip in, and it was learned then that he had cardiomyopathy with pulmonary edema and aortic stenosis. His lungs were so full of liquid and his heart had the all too common cardiomyopathy cats get. I was told by the specialty hospital vet that it often happens that these disorders, heart murmur and cardiomyopathy, go hand in hand (but not in every case). Zoh's heart murmur was a 4/6, which is significant. They put Zoh on 3 meds which he took for the rest of his life, every day. Furosemide (lasix) for the fluid in the lungs, Atenolol, a blood pressure med, and one more bp mes, I cannot remember the name of, but he got better. I was told cats with cardiomyopathy rarely live long, and Zoh lived 2 more years till he succumbed to a heart attack and died in my arms, in my room. I am hoping this info of my experience with heart murmurs might give you something to talk about to your vet. I would def ask what the meds are, what class, and why he is prescribing them, as well as get a definite diagnosis/prognosis in his professional opinion. It sounds like he did not give you enough info. And, I would say the echocardiogram is very important to get, even if it is a bit pricey and you might have to go a little distance to find a place to get it done. most vets do not have one in their office, although if your cat is breathing hard, ask for a chest xray, for starters. (Not as expensive, either. lol)Good luck. Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= "I'm Kat Parker. I park cats." "Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE & HAPPY cat!" -- Forwarded message -- From: czadna sacarawicz To: feline leukemia list Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:56:47 + Subject: [Felvtalk] heart murmur; intermittent fresh blood in stool There is always so much going on with us and our beloveds plus comings & leavings. I hesitate to interrupt but this is important to me - - to us. Pookashay was diagnosed with heart murmur in May 2010. Nothing was said re: need for med. Different vet listened to in spring 2011. Nothing was said re: murmur. Now same vet hears and wants to put on meds; wants work-up. In what circumstances would you put on meds? Meaow is cat abandoned at TS which had abscess under jaw in October. had treated; then neutered about 2 weeks later. now has intermittent fresh blood in stool. stools are small & dark. no problems before. vet found no coccidia or worms in stool sample. again vet wants to put on meds. feed canned food. he wants to own me but keep caged in bedroom because SPCA accepted him for their waiting list. fe leukemia cats are in main part of small apartment. comments? he is negative; has been vaccinated. a fighter & biter who is also very sweet. finally, Yahmuna is FIV cat which came to my door very, very sick last Thanksgiving. SPCA accepted her in July for adoption center placement. went to see her yesterday. very, very congested. on antibiotics. she is their cat now. HOW CAN I HELP HER? thank you. czadna, Mama & Scrumptious & Luscious and Pookashay & Shallie Marie & Harold & James (and Meaow and Piedy Sven and Hope & Rasha Boo and Lila Bea - all on SPCA waiting list) m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Interesting: Cats Have Blood Types, Too
Cats Have Blood Types, Too by JaneA Kelley, Cat expert and animal communicator Cats have three blood types: A, B, and AB. Most non-pedigreed cats, as well as American Shorthairs, Siamese and other Oriental breeds, have Type A. Devon Rex, Cornish Rex, and about 15 percent of Persian and Abyssinian cats have type B. Type AB is rare, but it has been found across a number of breeds. Cats, like humans, can have potentially fatal reactions if given the wrong blood type. But don't worry -- if your vet can't find a donor in your area, there are kitty blood banks, too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Interesting: Cats Have Blood Types, Too
Yes, I had a kitty with Hemobartonella (sp?) who needed a blood transfusion & this was an issue. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: GRAS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, December 5, 2011 2:57 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Interesting: Cats Have Blood Types, Too Cats Have Blood Types, Too by JaneA Kelley, Cat expert and animal communicator Cats have three blood types: A, B, and AB. Most non-pedigreed cats, as well as American Shorthairs, Siamese and other Oriental breeds, have Type A. Devon Rex, Cornish Rex, and about 15 percent of Persian and Abyssinian cats have type B. Type AB is rare, but it has been found across a number of breeds. Cats, like humans, can have potentially fatal reactions if given the wrong blood type. But don't worry -- if your vet can't find a donor in your area, there are kitty blood banks, too! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur
Thank you family!!! I typed a long note yesterday and aborted it. Yes, I was not happy with being advised what med to put both Pookashay & Meaow on without any explanations. The state facility is a great idea. I ordered the GNC vegetarian formula CoQ 10 on Saturday. Natalie, You are really high on it. This note is primarily about Meaow and his bloody diarrhea. I am going to digress. He tore up the back of my hand last night when he got by me through the bedroom door into the main part of the apartment. I have been leaving him out of the cage thinking that would be less stressful. He attacked an older fe leukemia + female. He has now attacked all the females of my home circle. I am on antibiotics for the 4th time due to him since the beginning of October. Yes, I remember well last summer's discussion about who controls the doors. He is back in the cage. He crunched down on her tail so she can no longer lift her tail. I intervened without protection. Sunday morning there was a 1/3" gob of clotting blood on the bathroom floor. I had put him in there while I cleaned the bedroom cages. Part of this morning's bowel movement was hard & formed & the remainder was formed and contained a lot more liquid. I bought some Paul Newman canned & will feed that exclusviely tonight. have not tried yogurt. last night fed cooked beef liver and milk and cooked sweet potato, . . . quit the variety? He is on a waiting list for the local SPCA. I have identified him as a biter to them. he is a sweetie as I have said before who wants to claim me. I am attached to him but no way can it be. thanks for listening. ideas? I go back to the vet on Saturday. will tell her about your comments. thank you. cz Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2011 09:14:32 -0500 From: g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur Animals (and people) with any heart problems need CoQ10 desperately! Between 30 mg and 50 mg daily! One of our cats has cardiomyopathy and renal failure…she was diagnosed 1 ½ yrs. ago. She’s on a few drugs and sub-q fluids and I also supplement her with CoQ10 – she’s doing really well. We don’t know how long she’s had the problem…she’s about 12 yrs. old now. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kat Parker Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2011 10:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] heart murmur There are varying degrees of heart murmurs in cats. They are measures in fractions of 6. For instance, a 2 out of 6, or 2/6, is not as serious a a 4/6. We had a cat who was diagnosed with a murmur, and we did not have the money to get further testing done on him at that time because he was fresh off the street, A stray that just followed me inside one day after I had fed him. lol He looked awful, mainly because he had been living as a stray with a bad flea allergy. What a fantastic cat he proved to be! Well, all was ell for about 6 months, then he started fainting (syncope), and we were told to get the echo done. We did, at a specialist here in San Diego, with the help of some awesome MySpace friends and a chip in, and it was learned then that he had cardiomyopathy with pulmonary edema and aortic stenosis. His lungs were so full of liquid and his heart had the all too common cardiomyopathy cats get. I was told by the specialty hospital vet that it often happens that these disorders, heart murmur and cardiomyopathy, go hand in hand (but not in every case). Zoh's heart murmur was a 4/6, which is significant. They put Zoh on 3 meds which he took for the rest of his life, every day. Furosemide (lasix) for the fluid in the lungs, Atenolol, a blood pressure med, and one more bp mes, I cannot remember the name of, but he got better. I was told cats with cardiomyopathy rarely live long, and Zoh lived 2 more years till he succumbed to a heart attack and died in my arms, in my room. I am hoping this info of my experience with heart murmurs might give you something to talk about to your vet. I would def ask what the meds are, what class, and why he is prescribing them, as well as get a definite diagnosis/prognosis in his professional opinion. It sounds like he did not give you enough info. And, I would say the echocardiogram is very important to get, even if it is a bit pricey and you might have to go a little distance to find a place to get it done. most vets do not have one in their office, although if your cat is breathing hard, ask for a chest xray, for starters. (Not as expensive, either. lol)Good luck. Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= "I'm Kat Parker. I park cats." "Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE & HAPPY cat!" -- Forwarded message -- From: czadna sacarawicz To: feline leukemia list Date: Sun, 27 Nov 2011 20:56:47 + Subject:
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 5 // on heart murmur
Dear Czadna, Heart murmur can be, as they have already told you, a consequence of a cardiomyopathy. But it can also be because the kitty is anemic (no cardiomyopathy)... So, please don't panic and take your kitty to a cardiologist first.. Do not administer any heart drug without a cardiologist opinion first. For a diagnose the vet needs an echocardiogram, xrays and electrocardiogram studies. If you choose to administer CoQ10 as someone suggested, please take into account that you have to administer this drug forever, because it aids the heart muscle to work, and it cannot be stopped afterwards. My advice would be to visit a cardiologist and to join the Feline Heart mailing list: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-heart/ Best wishes to you and your kitty, Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
