[Felvtalk] testing
Hey all, Sorry for the extra mail. Just testing to be sure the list is working as it should. Haven't seen any traffic for a few days now. Hope all is well with everyone. Best wishes. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] testing
Hi James, Got your email. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you and your family! From your longtime group member. Terrie TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUESultan, WA. 98294Terrie Mohr-Forkerhttp://tazzys.org/Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2011 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. Original Message Subject: [Felvtalk] testingFrom: "James G Wilson" phaed...@charter.netDate: Wed, December 14, 2011 8:18 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgHey all,Sorry for the extra mail. Just testing to be sure the list is working as it should. Haven't seen any traffic for a few days now. Hope all is well with everyone. Best wishes.James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.nethttp://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support)http://www.facebook.com/crambonehttp://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL)___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 15
I'm still here too James :) Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 12:00:01 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 15 Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org You can reach the person managing the list at felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
I have not been getting any posts lately? I had to go back through my email to find this one To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:50:37 + Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals I get hills c/d at any vet I stop into. I live in Los angeles. It has saved my Tweetys life! He eats nothing else. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:39:51 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals Homey's crystals are struvite, very few calcte. She geets fitered water in fountains along with e other 6 cats in my house. We have 8 litter boxes tat are scooped out at least 2 times a day. I use a corncob litter because it is biodegradeble, doesn't track more than clay and hadles odors very well. I hadeveryone on Blue Buffalo Duck and sweet potato mixed 1/2 with turkey and sweet potato becauseCasey has troube with the dck, think it is to rich for her (14 years old). The food was dry. Vet now has her on Hill's SD and gave her a shot of Convenia antibiotic to get her started toward healing. He also did Cystocentesis ad sent urine sample off for cultures (aerobic and anaerobic) to determine exactly which bacteria was involved so he can giveherthe right antibiotic. The shot and SD seem to be helping as urine balls in boxes re all close to normal size, This is the 3rd timethis year, that s why he did the cultures. The last time, she refused the SD, bt it had been sitting on the floor of he van onthe way home so was nice and warm. She and others ate it up. I also got some SD dry just in case she decides she does not like the canned. Thought about mixing dry into wet. Where can I get these other foods you menioned? As to cranberry, tried giving her some and only way to get it in her was to spend 20 minutes trying to catch her and rub t on her feet. Then she avoids me for at least 1 hr afterwards. jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: Forgive me as I have missed the beginning of this email thread. With respect to urinary crystals diet is huge. Every cat that has ever been brought to me with crystals has responded to diet with complete eradication of crystals (make sure you know what type of crystals you're dealing though). Raw diet is the key. If you can't do raw, the high quality canned foods like Fromm, Go, Wellness work quite well. You can still do some dry but it has to be the good stuff - Orijen or Fromm would be my recommendation. I always add some cranberry to it if they'll take it just to avoid UTIs. It takes about four weeks if the crystals are bad and in the meantime you have to make sure they do not become obstructed (that often takes vet strength food or catheter or suprapubic taps. Hope this helps. Jenny On 12/8/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: In the course of conversation with Karen today, I mentoned that Hojey had crystas. She said her cat had same problem and a group Catwell on yahoo had helped her. They suggested Cantharis. You can get it at health food stoes. Her cat had been gven a death sentence and now is alive and healthy. Anybody knw anyting about this? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
I have 't been getting much either lately. Didn't even see your email in response. As far raw diets go, I get nature's menu from a local store in Wisconsin. You would probably have to order via the web and have it sent. Otherwise, Bravo raw diet should be at most small holistic type animal stores. You can do a google search for where bravo is sold in your area. Fromm and Orijen should be at most of these types of animal stores as well. As far as the cranberry goes, I got the capsules with the powdered cranberry inside (you can get at any grocery store for the most part). I put a very small amount (about 1/8th of the capsule and mix it in with the moist or raw food. Some cats absolutely refuse it so don't. If they absolutely refuse it, I have used plain canned tuna and mixed it in that. Otherwise Fromm has a diet with cranberry mixed in. I'm not a great fan of SD, but before I used the raw diet, I used the C/D and it did work and they did eat it, but it's just not as good for their overall health and the second I would use any other food the crystals came back. Raw diet allows for a wide variety of food types. Be warned, however, it will take one to two months before the problem truely resolves. I would leave out dry food like Fromm or Orijen if you do the grazing type feeding and then give raw every evening and canned wet in the morning mixing in the cranberry whenever possible, or some variation thereof. Hope that helps. Jenny On 12/14/11, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: I have not been getting any posts lately? I had to go back through my email to find this one To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:50:37 + Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals I get hills c/d at any vet I stop into. I live in Los angeles. It has saved my Tweetys life! He eats nothing else. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:39:51 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals Homey's crystals are struvite, very few calcte. She geets fitered water in fountains along with e other 6 cats in my house. We have 8 litter boxes tat are scooped out at least 2 times a day. I use a corncob litter because it is biodegradeble, doesn't track more than clay and hadles odors very well. I hadeveryone on Blue Buffalo Duck and sweet potato mixed 1/2 with turkey and sweet potato becauseCasey has troube with the dck, think it is to rich for her (14 years old). The food was dry. Vet now has her on Hill's SD and gave her a shot of Convenia antibiotic to get her started toward healing. He also did Cystocentesis ad sent urine sample off for cultures (aerobic and anaerobic) to determine exactly which bacteria was involved so he can giveherthe right antibiotic. The shot and SD seem to be helping as urine balls in boxes re all close to normal size, This is the 3rd timethis year, that s why he did the cultures. The last time, she refused the SD, bt it had been sitting on the floor of he van onthe way home so was nice and warm. She and others ate it up. I also got some SD dry just in case she decides she does not like the canned. Thought about mixing dry into wet. Where can I get these other foods you menioned? As to cranberry, tried giving her some and only way to get it in her was to spend 20 minutes trying to catch her and rub t on her feet. Then she avoids me for at least 1 hr afterwards. jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: Forgive me as I have missed the beginning of this email thread. With respect to urinary crystals diet is huge. Every cat that has ever been brought to me with crystals has responded to diet with complete eradication of crystals (make sure you know what type of crystals you're dealing though). Raw diet is the key. If you can't do raw, the high quality canned foods like Fromm, Go, Wellness work quite well. You can still do some dry but it has to be the good stuff - Orijen or Fromm would be my recommendation. I always add some cranberry to it if they'll take it just to avoid UTIs. It takes about four weeks if the crystals are bad and in the meantime you have to make sure they do not become obstructed (that often takes vet strength food or catheter or suprapubic taps. Hope this helps. Jenny On 12/8/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: In the course of conversation with Karen today, I mentoned that Hojey had crystas. She said her cat had same problem and a group Catwell on yahoo had helped her. They suggested Cantharis. You can get it at health food stoes. Her cat had been gven a death sentence and now is alive and healthy. Anybody knw anyting about this? ___ Felvtalk mailing list
Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
Wish we could afford a raw diet but we have WY too many for that and we have a few whose glutton buttons don't have an off switch ;) so they eat what they have and move on to another plate :) Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:09:12 -0600 From: jb...@tds.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals I have 't been getting much either lately. Didn't even see your email in response. As far raw diets go, I get nature's menu from a local store in Wisconsin. You would probably have to order via the web and have it sent. Otherwise, Bravo raw diet should be at most small holistic type animal stores. You can do a google search for where bravo is sold in your area. Fromm and Orijen should be at most of these types of animal stores as well. As far as the cranberry goes, I got the capsules with the powdered cranberry inside (you can get at any grocery store for the most part). I put a very small amount (about 1/8th of the capsule and mix it in with the moist or raw food. Some cats absolutely refuse it so don't. If they absolutely refuse it, I have used plain canned tuna and mixed it in that. Otherwise Fromm has a diet with cranberry mixed in. I'm not a great fan of SD, but before I used the raw diet, I used the C/D and it did work and they did eat it, but it's just not as good for their overall health and the second I would use any other food the crystals came back. Raw diet allows for a wide variety of food types. Be warned, however, it will take one to two months before the problem truely resolves. I would leave out dry food like Fromm or Orijen if you do the grazing type feeding and then give raw every evening and canned wet in the morning mixing in the cranberry whenever possible, or some variation thereof. Hope that helps. Jenny On 12/14/11, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: I have not been getting any posts lately? I had to go back through my email to find this one To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:50:37 + Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals I get hills c/d at any vet I stop into. I live in Los angeles. It has saved my Tweetys life! He eats nothing else. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:39:51 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals Homey's crystals are struvite, very few calcte. She geets fitered water in fountains along with e other 6 cats in my house. We have 8 litter boxes tat are scooped out at least 2 times a day. I use a corncob litter because it is biodegradeble, doesn't track more than clay and hadles odors very well. I hadeveryone on Blue Buffalo Duck and sweet potato mixed 1/2 with turkey and sweet potato becauseCasey has troube with the dck, think it is to rich for her (14 years old). The food was dry. Vet now has her on Hill's SD and gave her a shot of Convenia antibiotic to get her started toward healing. He also did Cystocentesis ad sent urine sample off for cultures (aerobic and anaerobic) to determine exactly which bacteria was involved so he can giveherthe right antibiotic. The shot and SD seem to be helping as urine balls in boxes re all close to normal size, This is the 3rd timethis year, that s why he did the cultures. The last time, she refused the SD, bt it had been sitting on the floor of he van onthe way home so was nice and warm. She and others ate it up. I also got some SD dry just in case she decides she does not like the canned. Thought about mixing dry into wet. Where can I get these other foods you menioned? As to cranberry, tried giving her some and only way to get it in her was to spend 20 minutes trying to catch her and rub t on her feet. Then she avoids me for at least 1 hr afterwards. jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: Forgive me as I have missed the beginning of this email thread. With respect to urinary crystals diet is huge. Every cat that has ever been brought to me with crystals has responded to diet with complete eradication of crystals (make sure you know what type of crystals you're dealing though). Raw diet is the key. If you can't do raw, the high quality canned foods like Fromm, Go, Wellness work quite well. You can still do some dry but it has to be the good stuff - Orijen or Fromm would be my recommendation. I always add some cranberry to it if they'll take it just to avoid UTIs. It takes about four weeks if the crystals are bad and in the meantime you have to make sure they do not become obstructed (that often takes vet strength food or catheter or suprapubic taps. Hope this helps. Jenny On 12/8/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
[Felvtalk] cat from hell tv series on discovery channel
Haven't seen this before so might becoming late to the party, but it's a tv show on cat behavior issue hosted by the owner of spirit essences. Thought y'all might be interested http://animal.discovery.com/tv/my-cat-from-hell/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] cat from hell tv series on discovery channel
I have seen this show and he really seems to know what he is talking about. Mostly, he pays attention t the cat to find out what is bothering it. For one thing, it takes time patience, patience and more patience with some of them. It really helps to know their history. dana giordano giordano.d...@gmail.com wrote: Haven't seen this before so might becoming late to the party, but it's a tv show on cat behavior issue hosted by the owner of spirit essences. Thought y'all might be interested http://animal.discovery.com/tv/my-cat-from-hell/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
Me too! I have 7 and would have to put Homey in a room by herself when feeding
her or Harley and Dee, my gluttons would eat it all. They will even push
others away from their bowls. May have to go to holding Homey's dish on my lap
and then I can keep the others away while she eats. Is the dry food a no, no
just because it is dry? If so, I have water fountains and everyone drinks a
lot of water, includig Homey. To make the SD go farther, I mix hot water with
it since they all drink all the liquid first and then go back and eat the meat.
Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:
Wish we could afford a raw diet but we have WY too
many for that and we have a few whose glutton buttons don't have an off
switch ;) so they eat what they have and move on to another plate :)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:09:12 -0600
From: jb...@tds.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
I have 't been getting much either lately. Didn't even see your email
in response.
As far raw diets go, I get nature's menu from a local store in
Wisconsin. You would probably have to order via the web and have it
sent. Otherwise, Bravo raw diet should be at most small holistic type
animal stores. You can do a google search for where bravo is sold in
your area. Fromm and Orijen should be at most of these types of
animal stores as well. As far as the cranberry goes, I got the
capsules with the powdered cranberry inside (you can get at any
grocery store for the most part). I put a very small amount (about
1/8th of the capsule and mix it in with the moist or raw food. Some
cats absolutely refuse it so don't. If they absolutely refuse it, I
have used plain canned tuna and mixed it in that. Otherwise Fromm has
a diet with cranberry mixed in.
I'm not a great fan of SD, but before I used the raw diet, I used the
C/D and it did work and they did eat it, but it's just not as good for
their overall health and the second I would use any other food the
crystals came back. Raw diet allows for a wide variety of food types.
Be warned, however, it will take one to two months before the problem
truely resolves. I would leave out dry food like Fromm or Orijen if
you do the grazing type feeding and then give raw every evening and
canned wet in the morning mixing in the cranberry whenever possible,
or some variation thereof.
Hope that helps.
Jenny
On 12/14/11, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:
I have not been getting any posts lately? I had to go back through my
email
to find this one
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:50:37 +
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
I get hills c/d at any vet I stop into. I live in Los angeles. It has
saved my Tweetys life! He eats nothing else.
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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From: dlg...@windstream.net
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:39:51
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
Homey's crystals are struvite, very few calcte. She geets fitered water
in
fountains along with e other 6 cats in my house. We have 8 litter boxes
tat are scooped out at least 2 times a day. I use a corncob litter
because
it is biodegradeble, doesn't track more than clay and hadles odors very
well. I hadeveryone on Blue Buffalo Duck and sweet potato mixed 1/2 with
turkey and sweet potato becauseCasey has troube with the dck, think it is
to rich for her (14 years old). The food was dry. Vet now has her on
Hill's SD and gave her a shot of Convenia antibiotic to get her started
toward healing. He also did Cystocentesis ad sent urine sample off for
cultures (aerobic and anaerobic) to determine exactly which bacteria was
involved so he can giveherthe right antibiotic. The shot and SD seem to
be
helping as urine balls in boxes re all close to normal size, This is the
3rd timethis year, that s why he did the cultures. The last time, she
refused the SD, bt it had been sitting on the floor of he van onthe way
home so was nice and warm. She and others ate it up. I also got some SD
dry just in case she decides she does not like the canned. Thought about
mixing dry into wet. Where can I get these other foods you menioned? As
to
cranberry, tried giving her some and only way to get it in her was to
spend 20 minutes trying to catch her and rub t on her feet. Then she
avoids me for at least 1 hr afterwards.
jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote:
Forgive me as I have missed the beginning of this email thread. With
respect to urinary crystals diet is huge. Every cat that has ever
been brought to me with crystals has responded to diet with
