Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans
Yum! And the choices for Population Control Pate can be Burglar Beef in Gravy, Rapist Shreds and WifeBeater Bits all formulated for nutritional balance by Friskems Criminal Cat Food Company. And for the fat cat who really loves Premium Food at a high price, you can have Politician Pate and Pork Barrel Pork. > > From: Lorrie >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:27 AM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans > > >What a great idea, and not just naturally deceased humans for cat >food, but child molesters, rapists, etc. Entirely too many humans >are degenerates who would make excellent cat chow!! > > >On 09-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > >> and when do they start using deceased humans as an acceptable source of >> protein. They already use animals euthanized by humane society. I think >> it is time for God to put an end to us, we do not deserve to live on this >> beautiful planet that we are in the processing of destroying. > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans
Completely Funny!! LOL! ;-) But the Politician Plate would be wy too fatty! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:39 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans Yum! And the choices for Population Control Pate can be Burglar Beef in Gravy, Rapist Shreds and WifeBeater Bits all formulated for nutritional balance by Friskems Criminal Cat Food Company. And for the fat cat who really loves Premium Food at a high price, you can have Politician Pate and Pork Barrel Pork. _ From: Lorrie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:27 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans What a great idea, and not just naturally deceased humans for cat food, but child molesters, rapists, etc. Entirely too many humans are degenerates who would make excellent cat chow!! On 09-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > and when do they start using deceased humans as an acceptable source of > protein. They already use animals euthanized by humane society. I think > it is time for God to put an end to us, we do not deserve to live on this > beautiful planet that we are in the processing of destroying. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky
WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK ABOUT FREEZE DRIED TREATS? I HAVE FOUND 2 BRANDS AT PETSMART, PLUS bLUE bUFFALO NOW HAS THEM ONLY THEIR'S AE SOFT. OUR FAVORITE IS DUCK OF COURSE AND WE ALSO LOVE TURKEY. Lorrie wrote: > Bonnie, Thanks for the update. Cats like Royal Canin SO much better > than Hills CD, but get him on all canned food as soon as you can. > Wellness is known for causing urinary problems. My Polar Bear, who > is my FLUTD cat, eats canned Fancy Feast and Friskies. Not the best > canned food, but at least he eats it. He was a dry food junkie, and > I had a very hard time getting him on canned only. I now add a lot > extra water to it, and sprinkle just a few dry kibbles on top, and > he eats it. All this I learned in the FLUTD group. > > BTW - Wow what a vet bills!! But our cats are worth every > penny of it. > > Lorrie > > > On 09-11, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > >We spent a lot of time (and almost $500) at the vet today. The great > >news is Lucky's blood work looks real good, as do his x-rays (he does > >have some arthritis in his back). He has no apparent blockages > >(tumors) in his urinary tract. They did not see any crystals. The vet > >did say his bladder is very small and looks very inflamed. So they > >gave him a shot of an anti-inflammatory/anti-pain med (a good thing, he > >calmed down a lot, which is good to see), gave him anti-biotic > >(suspected u.t.i.), anti-inflammatory and an ocular anti-biotic/steroid > >for his runny (herpes) eye. Poor little dude, he sure went through a > >lot today! Now he's home, getting re-acquainted with the other cats > >and chilling. Looks like I've got a FLUTD feline here. They gave me a > >prescription for another type of special food (Royal Canine) which I'll > >try (he hates the CD). Fingers crossed. > > > >Thank you all for your words of advice, help, suggestions and > >encouragements. Lucky thanks you too! > > > >Bonnie > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky
Just make sure they're not made in China. -Original Message- >From: dlg...@windstream.net >Sent: Sep 13, 2013 10:16 AM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky > >WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK ABOUT FREEZE DRIED TREATS? I HAVE FOUND 2 BRANDS AT >PETSMART, PLUS bLUE bUFFALO NOW HAS THEM ONLY THEIR'S AE SOFT. OUR FAVORITE >IS DUCK OF COURSE AND WE ALSO LOVE TURKEY. > > Lorrie wrote: >> Bonnie, Thanks for the update. Cats like Royal Canin SO much better >> than Hills CD, but get him on all canned food as soon as you can. >> Wellness is known for causing urinary problems. My Polar Bear, who >> is my FLUTD cat, eats canned Fancy Feast and Friskies. Not the best >> canned food, but at least he eats it. He was a dry food junkie, and >> I had a very hard time getting him on canned only. I now add a lot >> extra water to it, and sprinkle just a few dry kibbles on top, and >> he eats it. All this I learned in the FLUTD group. >> >> BTW - Wow what a vet bills!! But our cats are worth every >> penny of it. >> >> Lorrie >> >> >> On 09-11, Bonnie Hogue wrote: >> >We spent a lot of time (and almost $500) at the vet today. The great >> >news is Lucky's blood work looks real good, as do his x-rays (he does >> >have some arthritis in his back). He has no apparent blockages >> >(tumors) in his urinary tract. They did not see any crystals. The vet >> >did say his bladder is very small and looks very inflamed. So they >> >gave him a shot of an anti-inflammatory/anti-pain med (a good thing, he >> >calmed down a lot, which is good to see), gave him anti-biotic >> >(suspected u.t.i.), anti-inflammatory and an ocular anti-biotic/steroid >> >for his runny (herpes) eye. Poor little dude, he sure went through a >> >lot today! Now he's home, getting re-acquainted with the other cats >> >and chilling. Looks like I've got a FLUTD feline here. They gave me a >> >prescription for another type of special food (Royal Canine) which I'll >> >try (he hates the CD). Fingers crossed. >> > >> >Thank you all for your words of advice, help, suggestions and >> >encouragements. Lucky thanks you too! >> > >> >Bonnie >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans
You guys just made me giggle(-: Sent from my iPad On Sep 13, 2013, at 4:39 AM, Lee Evans wrote: > Yum! And the choices for Population Control Pate can be Burglar Beef in > Gravy, Rapist Shreds and WifeBeater Bits all formulated for nutritional > balance by Friskems Criminal Cat Food Company. And for the fat cat who really > loves Premium Food at a high price, you can have Politician Pate and Pork > Barrel Pork. > > > From: Lorrie > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:27 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans > > What a great idea, and not just naturally deceased humans for cat > food, but child molesters, rapists, etc. Entirely too many humans > are degenerates who would make excellent cat chow!! > > > On 09-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > > > and when do they start using deceased humans as an acceptable source of > > protein. They already use animals euthanized by humane society. I think > > it is time for God to put an end to us, we do not deserve to live on this > > beautiful planet that we are in the processing of destroying. > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans
And Lord knows, I do not need any more fat! Bonnie Hogue wrote: > Completely Funny!! LOL! ;-) > > But the Politician Plate would be wy too fatty! > > > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee > Evans > Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:39 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans > > > > Yum! And the choices for Population Control Pate can be Burglar Beef in > Gravy, Rapist Shreds and WifeBeater Bits all formulated for nutritional > balance by Friskems Criminal Cat Food Company. And for the fat cat who > really loves Premium Food at a high price, you can have Politician Pate and > Pork Barrel Pork. > > > > > > > _ > > > From: Lorrie > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Thursday, September 12, 2013 7:27 AM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans > > > What a great idea, and not just naturally deceased humans for cat > food, but child molesters, rapists, etc. Entirely too many humans > are degenerates who would make excellent cat chow!! > > > On 09-11, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > > > and when do they start using deceased humans as an acceptable source of > > protein. They already use animals euthanized by humane society. I think > > it is time for God to put an end to us, we do not deserve to live on this > > beautiful planet that we are in the processing of destroying. > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans
Did someone mention that Royal Canin grinds up chicken feathers as the protein source in their very expensive cat food? Sheesh! Well, it can't be too bad. My grandmother used to have a liberal topping of chicken feathers in her chicken soup throughout my childhood. The cats didn't seem to mind it. > > From: "dlg...@windstream.net" >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 10:07 AM >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans > > >And Lord knows, I do not need any more fat! > > Bonnie Hogue wrote: >> Completely Funny!! LOL! ;-) >> >> But the Politician Plate would be wy too fatty! >> >> >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee >> Evans >> Sent: Friday, September 13, 2013 2:39 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT - using humans >> >> >> >> Yum! And the choices for Population Control Pate can be Burglar Beef in >> Gravy, Rapist Shreds and WifeBeater Bits all formulated for nutritional >> balance by Friskems Criminal Cat Food Company. And for the fat cat who >> really loves Premium Food at a high price, you can have Politician Pate and >> Pork Barrel Pork. >> >> >> >> >> >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky
I read the packages and they are made in the US, especially Blue Buffalo. Margo wrote: > Just make sure they're not made in China. > > -Original Message- > >From: dlg...@windstream.net > >Sent: Sep 13, 2013 10:16 AM > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky > > > >WHAT DOES EVERYONE THINK ABOUT FREEZE DRIED TREATS? I HAVE FOUND 2 BRANDS AT > >PETSMART, PLUS bLUE bUFFALO NOW HAS THEM ONLY THEIR'S AE SOFT. OUR FAVORITE > >IS DUCK OF COURSE AND WE ALSO LOVE TURKEY. > > > > Lorrie wrote: > >> Bonnie, Thanks for the update. Cats like Royal Canin SO much better > >> than Hills CD, but get him on all canned food as soon as you can. > >> Wellness is known for causing urinary problems. My Polar Bear, who > >> is my FLUTD cat, eats canned Fancy Feast and Friskies. Not the best > >> canned food, but at least he eats it. He was a dry food junkie, and > >> I had a very hard time getting him on canned only. I now add a lot > >> extra water to it, and sprinkle just a few dry kibbles on top, and > >> he eats it. All this I learned in the FLUTD group. > >> > >> BTW - Wow what a vet bills!! But our cats are worth every > >> penny of it. > >> > >> Lorrie > >> > >> > >> On 09-11, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > >> >We spent a lot of time (and almost $500) at the vet today. The great > >> >news is Lucky's blood work looks real good, as do his x-rays (he does > >> >have some arthritis in his back). He has no apparent blockages > >> >(tumors) in his urinary tract. They did not see any crystals. The > >> > vet > >> >did say his bladder is very small and looks very inflamed. So they > >> >gave him a shot of an anti-inflammatory/anti-pain med (a good thing, > >> > he > >> >calmed down a lot, which is good to see), gave him anti-biotic > >> >(suspected u.t.i.), anti-inflammatory and an ocular > >> > anti-biotic/steroid > >> >for his runny (herpes) eye. Poor little dude, he sure went through a > >> >lot today! Now he's home, getting re-acquainted with the other cats > >> >and chilling. Looks like I've got a FLUTD feline here. They gave me > >> > a > >> >prescription for another type of special food (Royal Canine) which > >> > I'll > >> >try (he hates the CD). Fingers crossed. > >> > > >> >Thank you all for your words of advice, help, suggestions and > >> >encouragements. Lucky thanks you too! > >> > > >> >Bonnie > >> > >> > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > >___ > >Felvtalk mailing list > >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Ember-blood work concerns
It's been a little while since I've posted about my 11 yro FeLV+ girl, Ember. We did blood work for her in late May, and her BUN and lipase levels were elevated. Creatinine was still within normal limits. Did a urine test, and she was concentrating her urine just fine. Yesterday, I took her in for skin problems she's having, which the doc thinks is dermatitis. We also ran blood work on her. Her BUN is now 45 (was 39), creatinine still normal, lipase high, and her triglycerides are now high. I don't have numbers for everything, but the blood work results should arrive this weekend. I will probably collect urine next week to test specific gravity again. Otherwise, I'm not sure of what to do. The doc says elevated lipase indicates pancreatitis in dogs, but isn't quite as definitive in cats. I did a little reading earlier, and I saw something about adding digestive enzymes to food, and that this might help with the lipase and triglyceride levels. Has anyone done this? Also, has anyone seen high BUN with normal creatinine and good specific gravity? Please let me know what you think. Thanks, Lance ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Ember-blood work concerns
dsHavven' done it for my cats for this reason, but added Forti flora for Csey and Homey who have reoccuring bouts of bladder infections. It does help both of them. Casey is 16 and Homey is 8 going on 9. Lance wrote: > It's been a little while since I've posted about my 11 yro FeLV+ girl, Ember. > We did blood work for her in late May, and her BUN and lipase levels were > elevated. Creatinine was still within normal limits. Did a urine test, and > she was concentrating her urine just fine. > > Yesterday, I took her in for skin problems she's having, which the doc thinks > is dermatitis. We also ran blood work on her. Her BUN is now 45 (was 39), > creatinine still normal, lipase high, and her triglycerides are now high. I > don't have numbers for everything, but the blood work results should arrive > this weekend. > > I will probably collect urine next week to test specific gravity again. > Otherwise, I'm not sure of what to do. The doc says elevated lipase indicates > pancreatitis in dogs, but isn't quite as definitive in cats. I did a little > reading earlier, and I saw something about adding digestive enzymes to food, > and that this might help with the lipase and triglyceride levels. Has anyone > done this? Also, has anyone seen high BUN with normal creatinine and good > specific gravity? > > Please let me know what you think. > > Thanks, > > Lance > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Update on Lucky
I used to use RC extreme hairball as a treat, but worried about the chicken feathers, also they do have grains in some of their foods and since we are all allergic to grains, that leaves RC out. Lorrie wrote: > Bonnie, Thanks for the update. Cats like Royal Canin SO much better > than Hills CD, but get him on all canned food as soon as you can. > Wellness is known for causing urinary problems. My Polar Bear, who > is my FLUTD cat, eats canned Fancy Feast and Friskies. Not the best > canned food, but at least he eats it. He was a dry food junkie, and > I had a very hard time getting him on canned only. I now add a lot > extra water to it, and sprinkle just a few dry kibbles on top, and > he eats it. All this I learned in the FLUTD group. > > BTW - Wow what a vet bills!! But our cats are worth every > penny of it. > > Lorrie > > > On 09-11, Bonnie Hogue wrote: > >We spent a lot of time (and almost $500) at the vet today. The great > >news is Lucky's blood work looks real good, as do his x-rays (he does > >have some arthritis in his back). He has no apparent blockages > >(tumors) in his urinary tract. They did not see any crystals. The vet > >did say his bladder is very small and looks very inflamed. So they > >gave him a shot of an anti-inflammatory/anti-pain med (a good thing, he > >calmed down a lot, which is good to see), gave him anti-biotic > >(suspected u.t.i.), anti-inflammatory and an ocular anti-biotic/steroid > >for his runny (herpes) eye. Poor little dude, he sure went through a > >lot today! Now he's home, getting re-acquainted with the other cats > >and chilling. Looks like I've got a FLUTD feline here. They gave me a > >prescription for another type of special food (Royal Canine) which I'll > >try (he hates the CD). Fingers crossed. > > > >Thank you all for your words of advice, help, suggestions and > >encouragements. Lucky thanks you too! > > > >Bonnie > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org