Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering
NEUTER HIM, ESPECIALLY IF YOU ALLOW HIM OUTSIDE. IF NOT, HE WILL GO LOOKING FOR A FIGHT, NATURE OF MALES. ANNIE IS NOW 8 AND WS SSPAYED AS ARE ALL OF MY CATS FOR THEIR OWN SAFETY. HARLEY IS MY MALE, NOT FELV, BUT HE IS NEUTERED. IF NOT HE WOULD BE COMEING HOME ALL SCARRED UP AND WORSE. Marsha wrote: > Debi, personally I would get a different vet if they told me that. > Milkdud lived 4.5 years after diagnosis at age 1 or 1.5. He was > neutered as an adult. Harley has been with me over 4 years, and he was > neutered around 5 months. Two vets in this area have said average > lifespan of FeLV+ cats they've seen in their practices was 2.5 years > after diagnosis, but each had seen a cat that made it 10 years. I > didn't ask whether those cats were neutered or not, but my guess is that > they were. > > If you allow an un-neutered FeLV+ male outdoors, he will go looking for > a mate, or a female in heat will find him. He may infect the female, > who will pass it to her kittens, if she doesn't miscarry. He may fight > with other males in the area, passing the virus to them. Outdoors, he > may be exposed to diseases that are not covered by the standard > vaccines, and being FeLV+, he is more vulnerable. I learned recently > that some vaccines don't even cover all possible strains of a virus, > just like each year's flu vaccine for humans only protects against the > strains that are most likely to be prevalent that year. A local vet > treated a FeLV negative cat with a bad calicivirus infection, that had > been vaccinated against calicivirus. But it was a different strain that > infected the cat, not covered by the vaccine. > > Also consider that an un-neutered male will most likely start to spray > (6 months, could start any time now), including in the house. We had a > sprayer once that started at 6 months, which continued even after he was > neutered, because it became a learned behavior. And the older > already-neutered cat observed and copied! > > Marsha > > > On 10/27/2014 9:57 AM, Debi Kraal wrote: > > I have a male 6 month old Felv + kitty. He's been to the vet for all the > > appropriate vaccines. I have 2 other cats. They’re all indoor/outdoor > > cats. Where ever they want to be is good with us. We have a large lot, 4 > > acres, trees, mice, all things wonderful for cats. My concern is that my > > vet did not want to neuter, “Bean”. He said there is some evidence that > > the extra testosterone my help with the leukemia. I have never had a > > non-neutered, spayed pet, I’m feeling a bit uncomfortable with this. Has > > anyone heard of this testosterone evidence? > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering
I’ve read quite a bit about FeLV, and I’ve never seen anything about testosterone being potentially helpful in fighting FeLV. I wouldn’t let your vet’s conjecture keep you from neutering the male kitten. As others have said, he needs to be an indoor cat for his own sake and out of respect for the safety of other cats. Best hopes that he has a long life. Lance > On Oct 27, 2014, at 9:57 AM, Debi Kraal wrote: > > I have a male 6 month old Felv + kitty. He's been to the vet for all the > appropriate vaccines. I have 2 other cats. They’re all indoor/outdoor cats. > Where ever they want to be is good with us. We have a large lot, 4 acres, > trees, mice, all things wonderful for cats. My concern is that my vet did > not want to neuter, “Bean”. He said there is some evidence that the extra > testosterone my help with the leukemia. I have never had a non-neutered, > spayed pet, I’m feeling a bit uncomfortable with this. Has anyone heard of > this testosterone evidence? > > Debi > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering
Debi, personally I would get a different vet if they told me that. Milkdud lived 4.5 years after diagnosis at age 1 or 1.5. He was neutered as an adult. Harley has been with me over 4 years, and he was neutered around 5 months. Two vets in this area have said average lifespan of FeLV+ cats they've seen in their practices was 2.5 years after diagnosis, but each had seen a cat that made it 10 years. I didn't ask whether those cats were neutered or not, but my guess is that they were. If you allow an un-neutered FeLV+ male outdoors, he will go looking for a mate, or a female in heat will find him. He may infect the female, who will pass it to her kittens, if she doesn't miscarry. He may fight with other males in the area, passing the virus to them. Outdoors, he may be exposed to diseases that are not covered by the standard vaccines, and being FeLV+, he is more vulnerable. I learned recently that some vaccines don't even cover all possible strains of a virus, just like each year's flu vaccine for humans only protects against the strains that are most likely to be prevalent that year. A local vet treated a FeLV negative cat with a bad calicivirus infection, that had been vaccinated against calicivirus. But it was a different strain that infected the cat, not covered by the vaccine. Also consider that an un-neutered male will most likely start to spray (6 months, could start any time now), including in the house. We had a sprayer once that started at 6 months, which continued even after he was neutered, because it became a learned behavior. And the older already-neutered cat observed and copied! Marsha On 10/27/2014 9:57 AM, Debi Kraal wrote: I have a male 6 month old Felv + kitty. He's been to the vet for all the appropriate vaccines. I have 2 other cats. They’re all indoor/outdoor cats. Where ever they want to be is good with us. We have a large lot, 4 acres, trees, mice, all things wonderful for cats. My concern is that my vet did not want to neuter, “Bean”. He said there is some evidence that the extra testosterone my help with the leukemia. I have never had a non-neutered, spayed pet, I’m feeling a bit uncomfortable with this. Has anyone heard of this testosterone evidence? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Such a short little life
Elisabeth, my deepest sympathies on your loss of Nanita. Poor little girl was just getting started in life, but at least she lived to the fullest for the time she had. I hope in time her past antics will bring fond memories of your time together. Marsha (with Harley & Brock) On 10/22/2014 2:50 AM, Elisabeth Eastley wrote: It is with the greatest sadness that I have to say that out little Nanita passed away last night. She was just over a year old and had developed lymphoma which grew quite quickly. Most of her life was spent getting up to mischief and her nickname was Troublemaker. She was her Daddy's girl and lived her life to the fullest. She was a happy and affectionate little girl. Her loss leaves a hole that will never be filled. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering
NO! do do Neuter him! the stress of hormones on his body is more suppressing to his immune system that is already very low due to the virus. Im working with the rescue and vets i can provide vet email you can ask her opinion. I do have 3 of the 6 m old that are Positive , they need to be kept inside because there immune system may not fight off all sicknesses that they may catch outdoor even tho they got all the vacc that is recommended. email me for any questions. Thank you Marta Makowski On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 9:57 AM, Debi Kraal wrote: > I have a male 6 month old Felv + kitty. He's been to the vet for all the > appropriate vaccines. I have 2 other cats. They’re all indoor/outdoor > cats. Where ever they want to be is good with us. We have a large lot, 4 > acres, trees, mice, all things wonderful for cats. My concern is that my > vet did not want to neuter, “Bean”. He said there is some evidence that > the extra testosterone my help with the leukemia. I have never had a > non-neutered, spayed pet, I’m feeling a bit uncomfortable with this. Has > anyone heard of this testosterone evidence? > > Debi > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Neutering
I have a male 6 month old Felv + kitty. He's been to the vet for all the appropriate vaccines. I have 2 other cats. They’re all indoor/outdoor cats. Where ever they want to be is good with us. We have a large lot, 4 acres, trees, mice, all things wonderful for cats. My concern is that my vet did not want to neuter, “Bean”. He said there is some evidence that the extra testosterone my help with the leukemia. I have never had a non-neutered, spayed pet, I’m feeling a bit uncomfortable with this. Has anyone heard of this testosterone evidence? Debi ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
