date:20141114

is the IFA test valid and reliable on a 12 week old kitten?  If not do you
have links?  I'm thinking I've heard it isn't, but can't find anything.
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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

Katherine,

I as well tried adopting out a mom and 3 kittens.  No response.  I kept them 
all and that was my start to a life of leuk positives.  I wouldn't change it 
for anything!  I have a son now, though, and the constant heartbreak on him is 
too much.  I wish I could save these 5 but I have a senior with leukemia and my 
vet thinks it would be unfair to him.

Amy

 From: Katherine K. 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Cc: Amy  
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

Amy,

I wish you the best of luck in placing these kittens. I had a litter of 4 
positive kittens and tried very hard to find good homes for them, with no luck, 
so they lived with me until they passed away, most before they were 1 year old. 
It was a very busy year, but they were a lovely little group and it was nice 
seeing them stay together as a family for the time they had. 

I have to agree with Kelley that a $115 adoption fee in reality is not likely 
to help you get them placed in homes. In my experience, people just don't want 
to adopt and get attached to, much less pay a fee for, a kitty who will 
probably not live long. I was lucky enough to be working with a larger rescue 
organization who covered their shots, spay/neuters and testing expenses. I just 
provided the home, food, love and tears :) 

I suggest making flyers with the best photos you can get, and make them sound 
very friendly and loving. Play the sympathy card for all it's worth! :)

Good luck,
Katherine

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Kelley S  wrote:

I must not be getting all the posts.  FELV+ kittens are very hard to place,and 
the adoption fee you are charging doesn't make it easier.  I too do rescue.   
We adopted out a double positive cat to a person on this list. We altered her, 
vaccinated her, tested and retested her.  We charged $25 and today I doubt we'd 
charge that. She went to an excellent home, we got pictures and updates.  She 
recently was euthanized due to severe cardiomyopathy and lived 7.5 years.  I 
wish you the best of luck testing your 5.  Maybe someone here has room for a 
new kitty:)
>
>
>
>On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:53 AM,  wrote:
>
>I GOT ANNIE AS AN ADULT OF 4 YRS, BUT THE VET THINKS SHE WAS ALWAYS POSITIVE.  
>SHE HAD NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE LADY'S HOUSE AND WAS SPOILED ROTTEN.  I HAVE 
>HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH MY OTHER CATS WHO WERE ANYWHERE FROM 1 YEAR TO 10 YEARS.  
>MOST DIE OF OLD AGE AT 18 OR SO.  YOU DO HAVE TO BE VERY OBSERVANT AND CATCH 
>ANY PROBLEM BEFORE IT CAN GET STARTED.
>>I AGREE, YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, BUT IF THEY REALLY LOVE CATS, THEY WILL 
>>TAKE THE CHANCE AND LOVE THEM UNTIL THEY ARE GONE.  WHAT YOU GET FROM THEM IN 
>>THAT SHORT TIME IS WORTH IT.
>>
>> Amy  wrote:
>>> Did she get leukemia as a kitten?  I have a 12 year old leuk positive but I 
>>> didn't get him til he was three so not sure if he had it as a kitten or an 
>>> adult.  I also just lost one of my leuk positives that was 12, also got her 
>>> around 4 so not sure when she got leukemia.  Anybody that I had with 
>>> leukemia as a kitten hasn't made it past 2 :(  I know any of them can defy 
>>> the odds and I always tell people that but I will warn people that there 
>>> may be heartbreak ahead.  I think it is only fair.  Never stopped me from 
>>> helping these little ones though.  They are all so special.
>>>
>>> We just had an entire litter convert at our rescue (which the vets and the 
>>> specialists have told me is really unusual) so I'm hoping for the best for 
>>> these little cuties.  So happy your Annie is doing well!!!
>>>
>>>
>>> 
>>>  From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
>>> To: Amy ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:28 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8 YEARS 
>>> OLD .
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Amy  wrote:
>>> > I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia 
>>> > positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by 
>>> > somebody that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found 
>>> > outdoors.  She got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested 
>>> > positive and that the people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help 
>>> > so we paid to have all 5 kittens tested this week.  All five are 
>>> > positive.  The foster is willing to hold them for 30 days so we can 
>>> > retest them but she does not want to euthanize (nor would we suggest 
>>> > that) and she can't keep them.  She has five cats of her own and can't 
>>> > take another 5.  She would like us to try to find adoptive homes for them.
>>> >
>>> > We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the homes 
>>> > and do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We would 
>>> > love to find homes for them with people that know

Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

Marsha,

I would like to thank you for your suggestions, help and support.  Even though 
you may not agree with everything I'm saying, you have been very respectful and 
helpful.  It is most appreciated.

Amy

 From: Marsha 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 1:15 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

Some adopters may make a donation to the organization they adopt a 
zero-fee cat from.  I did.  You might make a cat low or no fee, but say, 
"donations gratefully accepted".  If you list on PetFinder, consider 
adding FeLV+ to the heading, besides just listing them as "special 
needs".  Some people are looking specifically for a FeLV+ cat as a 
companion for one they already have, and not putting that in the heading 
forces those people to sift through every special needs listing to find 
the FeLV+ kitty.  I turned to PetFinder after having no luck locally 
finding a companion for Harley, and did a search by zip code.  I 
specified "up to 100 miles", and that's how I found Brock.  Actually, 
113 miles away, but the search goes by zip code.

There are also some listings here (up for adoption or looking to adopt 
FeLV, FIV, FIP +): 
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi
You can also get to that by the felineleukemia.org website.

One other place to list is the PurringPixie yahoo group.

Marsha
(with Harley & Brock)

On 11/14/2014 11:05 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
> Amy,
> I wish you the best of luck in placing these kittens. I had a litter 
> of 4 positive kittens and tried very hard to find good homes for them, 
> with no luck, so they lived with me until they passed away, most 
> before they were 1 year old. It was a very busy year, but they were a 
> lovely little group and it was nice seeing them stay together as a 
> family for the time they had.
> I have to agree with Kelley that a $115 adoption fee in reality is not 
> likely to help you get them placed in homes. In my experience, people 
> just don't want to adopt and get attached to, much less pay a fee for, 
> a kitty who will probably not live long. I was lucky enough to be 
> working with a larger rescue organization who covered their shots, 
> spay/neuters and testing expenses. I just provided the home, food, 
> love and tears :)
> I suggest making flyers with the best photos you can get, and make 
> them sound very friendly and loving. Play the sympathy card for all 
> it's worth! :)
>

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Hi all,

I'm sorry that people on this board disagree about the adoption fee and I'm 
disappointed that some people are making judgmental comments.  This board has 
been a great source of support to my family over the years and I am not feeling 
that at all at the moment.  I have adopted 12 positive cats of my own and have 
been on this board since I took my first mom and 3 kittens over 10 years ago.  
I have never owned a non-leuk positive cat until this year.  It sounds to me 
like people think I'm trying to make money off these cats or that I'm asking 
people to do something unreasonable.  Do you know what I spent in the past two 
months trying to save one leuk positive?  Over $5000.  That is one of them.  
Did I not treat her because she is leuk positive?  No I treated her like I 
would any other cat and gave her every opportunity to live, despite her status. 
 I do the same with all my positives even though I know the end result is 
usually them losing the battle with
 this horrible disease.  I'm not saying that whoever adopts these cats should 
go to those lengths to save them but I know the veterinary care that is 
involved with leuk positives.  If somebody is worried about paying a $100 
adoption fee because the cat might die, are they going to say the same thing 
about vet care?  "I don't want to spend the money because it might die."  And 
what about senior cats/dogs or special needs cat/dogs? Rescues charge adoption 
fees for them as well and they can die in a year or two.  Why are leuks any 
different?  I paid an adoption fee at a shelter in CT for 2 of my leuk 
positives.  I do understand there is a controversy about free adoptions vs. 
fees.  We are not a rescue that cares about numbers.  We are a no-kill and we 
commit to an animal for life.  We do the best we can for that animal and are 
committed to finding it the best home possible.  We don't do free adoptions or 
try to move cats as quickly as we can.  It just isn't
  how we operate.  We have a very selective adoption process and we try to make 
sure all our cats are going to loving forever homes.  I am trying to do the 
same for these cats, even though I am well aware of how awful this disease is.

The woman that contacted us about these kittens has placed lots of kittens, no 
vetting, no applications, no follow up.  That is not helping the situation to 
give kittens away to people that aren't going to take care of them or be 
responsible about this disease.  Asking for an adoption fee simply helps show 
that the adopters are committed and that they understand the expense involved 
in owning an animal.  It in no means makes a dent in the money that we spend to 
help them, nor is it meant to.  We are vetting these cats and we are trying to 
teach this woman about helping in a responsible way.  She was going to adopt 
these cats to anybody and just spread the disease or release them outside.  As 
it is, we are trying to get a hold of the stray mom who is probably outside and 
leuk positive.  I'm trying to help educate her and teach her about leukemia and 
everybody makes it sound like I'm doing something wrong.  I have placed 
numerous cats on this board over
 the years as people constantly call me to help the positives.  This woman 
called me and we are trying to do the right thing.  Money is not the issue.  It 
costs us about $500 to vet a kitten completely.  There are 5 of them which 
means about $2500.  I am not trying to get that money back.  We already paid to 
combo test all of them and to treat the one for a URI without any commitment to 
these cats or any thought of an adoption fee.  She could have euthanized them 
all and we would have been out that money.  We were just trying to help her out.

Anyway, I'm probably not going to convince any of you about the adoption fee 
but I would like to say that I never said anything about not placing these cats 
in homes with other FeLV positive cats.  I said I would do an IFA first because 
both Cornell and the SPCA suggest that.  I have researched this disease for the 
past 10 years of my life and talked to vets all over the country about it.  
I've talked to sanctuaries as well and many will not take a leuk positive cat 
without a positive IFA.  If the cat is going to convert and you send it to a 
home with leukemia when it is IFA negative, you could be giving that kitten a 
death sentence when it could have a happy full life leukemia free.  Right now 
we are giving them 30 days to start converting and then we will retest.  But if 
somebody wanted  one and they had cats with leukemia, I just would want to make 
sure the kitten is truly positive.  As I mentioned, we recently had 5 positives 
at our rescue and I
 posted it about it a while back.  They are now all leuk free on both the Elisa 
and IFA.  We separated them from the positive mom and we gave them 90 days to 
convert before retesting.  They have been tested 3 times as negative and 
Cornell, the SPCA and numerous vets said they ar

Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

2014-11-14 Thread Margo

Hi Amy
Well, I can bet right now you have at least three females :).
I could never feel justified asking for fees when adopting out many special needs kittens or cats. Fortunately, I was not subject to oversight, which makes a difference. And yes, I usually had lots of money invested in those, but knowing I was asking for "above and beyond", I figured that taking on the kind of burden I was presenting, we were even. I have the added self-imposed concern that I no longer believe "conversion" to negative is truly a negative. I now feel once positive, always positive, at some level.
But maybe you will have better luck. I do hope you are successful.
Margo
-Original Message- From: Amy Sent: Nov 14, 2014 8:48 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia positive cats (rescues) for years. We were recently contacted by somebody that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found outdoors. She got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested positive and that the people needed to bring him back. She wanted help so we paid to have all 5 kittens tested this week. All five are positive. The foster is willing to hold them for 30 days so we can retest them but she does not want to euthanize (nor would we suggest that) and she can't keep them. She has five cats of her own and can't take another 5. She would like us to try to find adoptive homes for them.We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the homes and do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League. We would love to find homes for them with people that know this disease. We have a black, a blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie. Pictures are available if you email me. We will determine sex and give them names soon. We will also retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA to make sure they are positive if somebody wants them sooner and has other leuk positives. We wouldn't want to send them to a home with leukemia if there is any chance they are going to fight it off but will all five positive, we suspect some or all of them will remain positive.These kittens will not be free. We will do all the vetting on them - spays/neuters, microchipping, rabies, distemper, flea and parasite treatment, etc., and will charge a $115 adoption fee. We are a rescue and will not adopt out animals that are not fully vetted and we don't do free adoptions. We are aware that they may not live past a year or two but they still deserve a loving, responsible home and proper veterinary care. If anybody is interested in helping one of these little beauties, please let us know.Amy Weygandt

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OK, I submitted my request to join (like I need another group to join, 
LOL).  But can't get sucked into reading right now - it's time to hang 
out with Harley and Brock!


Marsha

On 11/14/2014 3:09 PM, Kelley S wrote:
I thought it would be interesting to get yall involved in the 
discussion there. It is CRAZY.  There is also some really hopeful 
anecdotal evidence about treating non-regenerative anemia with 
aquapuncture.  Again, not trying to drive traffic from this list, and 
I've tried to get them to come here, but if you are interested go on over.





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I thought it would be interesting to get yall involved in the discussion
there. It is CRAZY.  There is also some really hopeful anecdotal evidence
about treating non-regenerative anemia with aquapuncture.  Again, not
trying to drive traffic from this list, and I've tried to get them to come
here, but if you are interested go on over.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 2:59 PM, Marsha  wrote:

> Kelly, I think she wants to wait until they are confirmed positive with an
> IFA before adopting them out to a home with other FeLV+ cats.  She did
> mention the hope to find homes that are familiar with FeLV.
>
>  I kept Brock quarantined from Harley until I got a positive IFA test on
> Brock.  Brock had ony ever had a single Snap test at the shelter to say he
> was FeLV+.  Looking back, I would have requested (and paid for) a vet local
> to the shelter to do an IFA.  That would have made it  easier for the
> shelter to adopt out a negative cat, while I continued to search for a
> positive companion for Harley.  But I had already brought Brock home, so if
> he had by chance tested negative on my vet's IFA, then I would have kept
> him separate from my negatives until he got a 2nd negative, then be put
> with them instead, and I would then have searched for another possible
> companion for Harley.  Someday I may consider mixing negatives & positives,
> especially if treatments are developed like there are for HIV, where it's
> not cured, but knocks the transmissible virus load to near zero.  But for
> now I keep them separate, because I don't want to deal with the guilt I
> would have if just ONE negative cat got infected.
>
> As for the lone FeLV+ kitten, that's pretty bizarre.  I don't think
> there's any way for anyone not directly involved to know what happened.
> Most likely either the breeder or the buyer knows or suspects, but isn't
> telling.  The only other possibility I can think of is that the virus
> somehow was passed genetically, and the exact right circumstances allowed
> it to manifest in one kitten. Kind of like FIP, in that the virus infects a
> large percentage of cats, but only a few have the genetic susceptibility,
> and the right circumstances for it to manifest into FIP disease.  But that
> doesn't seem so likely.
>
> Marsha
>
> On 11/14/2014 2:05 PM, Kelley S wrote:
>
>> Marsha..sorry..when I said "I don't know what you want" I was referring
>> to the OP, who if I recall correctly said something along the lines of "we
>> don't want these cats in with other FELV+ cats if they could possibly be
>> negative." So the way I read her post was:  we want people with no cats who
>> are willing to take the very probable heartbreak of a FELV+ kitten and
>> promise to not expose it to other FELV+ cats and who will pay us over a
>> hundred dollars for doing so.  This is possible, but not very likely IMHO.
>>  Even in our rescue, after a certain point they would eat up over $100
>> worth of food and we would be losing money even if we did get $100 plus for
>> them.  More importantly, everyone is limited in space, and an animal in a
>> foster home means another animal your rescue cannot help.
>> The facebook group is interesting, and I encourage those on Facebook to
>> join, not that I want to take traffic away from here, but most are very
>> very very very stridently against mixing.I tried to get them to come
>> here, but haven't had any luck that I know of.  There is a very strange
>> situation going on there that I'd like to get some input on.  There is a
>> kitten who has tested (snap and IFA) pos for FELV.  This kitten came from a
>> breeder who tests all her cats regularly and none has ever tested
>> positive.  The kitten's owner took the kitten to the vet as per contract
>> within 10 days of buying the cat and got a positive test.  Rechecked with
>> IFA, still positive.  ALL THE OTHER CATS were retested by the breeder and
>> are still negative.  All the other kittens in the litter have tested
>> negative.  HOW did this kitten contract FELV?
>>
>> Anyway here is the link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/
>>
>
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Kelly, I think she wants to wait until they are confirmed positive with 
an IFA before adopting them out to a home with other FeLV+ cats.  She 
did mention the hope to find homes that are familiar with FeLV.


 I kept Brock quarantined from Harley until I got a positive IFA test 
on Brock.  Brock had ony ever had a single Snap test at the shelter to 
say he was FeLV+.  Looking back, I would have requested (and paid for) a 
vet local to the shelter to do an IFA.  That would have made it  easier 
for the shelter to adopt out a negative cat, while I continued to search 
for a positive companion for Harley.  But I had already brought Brock 
home, so if he had by chance tested negative on my vet's IFA, then I 
would have kept him separate from my negatives until he got a 2nd 
negative, then be put with them instead, and I would then have searched 
for another possible companion for Harley.  Someday I may consider 
mixing negatives & positives, especially if treatments are developed 
like there are for HIV, where it's not cured, but knocks the 
transmissible virus load to near zero.  But for now I keep them 
separate, because I don't want to deal with the guilt I would have if 
just ONE negative cat got infected.


As for the lone FeLV+ kitten, that's pretty bizarre.  I don't think 
there's any way for anyone not directly involved to know what happened.  
Most likely either the breeder or the buyer knows or suspects, but isn't 
telling.  The only other possibility I can think of is that the virus 
somehow was passed genetically, and the exact right circumstances 
allowed it to manifest in one kitten. Kind of like FIP, in that the 
virus infects a large percentage of cats, but only a few have the 
genetic susceptibility, and the right circumstances for it to manifest 
into FIP disease.  But that doesn't seem so likely.


Marsha

On 11/14/2014 2:05 PM, Kelley S wrote:
Marsha..sorry..when I said "I don't know what you want" I was 
referring to the OP, who if I recall correctly said something along 
the lines of "we don't want these cats in with other FELV+ cats if 
they could possibly be negative." So the way I read her post was:  we 
want people with no cats who are willing to take the very probable 
heartbreak of a FELV+ kitten and promise to not expose it to other 
FELV+ cats and who will pay us over a hundred dollars for doing so.  
This is possible, but not very likely IMHO.   Even in our rescue, 
after a certain point they would eat up over $100 worth of food and we 
would be losing money even if we did get $100 plus for them.  More 
importantly, everyone is limited in space, and an animal in a foster 
home means another animal your rescue cannot help.
The facebook group is interesting, and I encourage those on Facebook 
to join, not that I want to take traffic away from here, but most are 
very very very very stridently against mixing.I tried to get them 
to come here, but haven't had any luck that I know of.  There is a 
very strange situation going on there that I'd like to get some input 
on.  There is a kitten who has tested (snap and IFA) pos for FELV.  
This kitten came from a breeder who tests all her cats regularly and 
none has ever tested positive.  The kitten's owner took the kitten to 
the vet as per contract within 10 days of buying the cat and got a 
positive test.  Rechecked with IFA, still positive.  ALL THE OTHER 
CATS were retested by the breeder and are still negative.  All the 
other kittens in the litter have tested negative.  HOW did this kitten 
contract FELV?


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Marsha..sorry..when I said "I don't know what you want" I was referring to
the OP, who if I recall correctly said something along the lines of "we
don't want these cats in with other FELV+ cats if they could possibly be
negative."  So the way I read her post was:  we want people with no cats
who are willing to take the very probable heartbreak of a FELV+ kitten and
promise to not expose it to other FELV+ cats and who will pay us over a
hundred dollars for doing so.  This is possible, but not very likely
IMHO.   Even in our rescue, after a certain point they would eat up over
$100 worth of food and we would be losing money even if we did get $100
plus for them.  More importantly, everyone is limited in space, and an
animal in a foster home means another animal your rescue cannot help.
The facebook group is interesting, and I encourage those on Facebook to
join, not that I want to take traffic away from here, but most are very
very very very stridently against mixing.I tried to get them to come
here, but haven't had any luck that I know of.  There is a very strange
situation going on there that I'd like to get some input on.  There is a
kitten who has tested (snap and IFA) pos for FELV.  This kitten came from a
breeder who tests all her cats regularly and none has ever tested
positive.  The kitten's owner took the kitten to the vet as per contract
within 10 days of buying the cat and got a positive test.  Rechecked with
IFA, still positive.  ALL THE OTHER CATS were retested by the breeder and
are still negative.  All the other kittens in the litter have tested
negative.  HOW did this kitten contract FELV?

Anyway here is the link:  https://www.facebook.com/groups/26073442228/

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 1:39 PM, Marsha  wrote:

>  Kelly, now *I'm* confused.  I don't want anything.  I was just sharing
> my personal experiences and putting some suggestions out there.  Some of
> the resources you or others may already know about, but others might be new
> to some people.  Feel free to list your Facebook resources so people here
> are aware of those too.   Or maybe you were really replying to the same
> person I was replying to?
>
> Idea for everyone:  make up a flyer with some basic info about FeLV, with
> a picture of one or more or your FeLV+ cats looking happy and living the
> good life.  Maybe put a link on the flyer to felineleukemia.org or other
> resource(s).  Distribute the flyer to local vet offices for when the vet
> gets a client with a cat that tests positive.  The vet could show the flyer
> to the owner so that the owner can see that there is support available, and
> that FeLV+ cats can live a happy life for a variable number of years.
>
> Marsha
>
> On 11/14/2014 1:00 PM, Kelley S wrote:
>
> There are some other places to list on Facebook, if you would like the
> links.  One thing that struck me when I read your post was confusion on my
> part as to what exactly you wanted.  It seemed to me reading it, and I may
> be reading things into this, that you did not want the kittens to go to a
> home with FELV+ cats in there already.   That, in addition to the adoption
> fee, is going to make it *almost* impossible to ever find these kittens a
> home (nothing is 100% impossible of course).  Also, once you adopt the
> kitten out, you don't have control over what the adopters do later.  They
> may bring in FELV+ cats later.  My heart kitty died of heart disease
> brought on by a congenital defect.  I spent a lot of time holding her and
> crying because she was going to die.  They are all going to die, we hope
> after many years in a happy home.  I spent more time mourning her death
> than I did celebrating her life.  This was  a grave mistake on my part.
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Marsha  wrote:
>
>> Some adopters may make a donation to the organization they adopt a
>> zero-fee cat from.  I did.  You might make a cat low or no fee, but say,
>> "donations gratefully accepted".  If you list on PetFinder, consider adding
>> FeLV+ to the heading, besides just listing them as "special needs".  Some
>> people are looking specifically for a FeLV+ cat as a companion for one they
>> already have, and not putting that in the heading forces those people to
>> sift through every special needs listing to find the FeLV+ kitty.  I turned
>> to PetFinder after having no luck locally finding a companion for Harley,
>> and did a search by zip code.  I specified "up to 100 miles", and that's
>> how I found Brock.  Actually, 113 miles away, but the search goes by zip
>> code.
>>
>> There are also some listings here (up for adoption or looking to adopt
>> FeLV, FIV, FIP +):
>> http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi
>> You can also get to that by the felineleukemia.org website.
>>
>> One other place to list is the PurringPixie yahoo group.
>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

2014-11-14 Thread Maya D'Alessio

My cat Yang who I lost this summer made it to 3 with feline leukemia. She
had to have gotten it as a kitten, I adopted her at five months and she
hadn't been exposed since entering my care. We didn't know she had it until
she had to be put down. It was a terrible shock, but she lived an excellent
life up until two days before we put her down.
On Nov 14, 2014 2:39 PM, "Marsha"  wrote:

>  Kelly, now *I'm* confused.  I don't want anything.  I was just sharing
> my personal experiences and putting some suggestions out there.  Some of
> the resources you or others may already know about, but others might be new
> to some people.  Feel free to list your Facebook resources so people here
> are aware of those too.   Or maybe you were really replying to the same
> person I was replying to?
>
> Idea for everyone:  make up a flyer with some basic info about FeLV, with
> a picture of one or more or your FeLV+ cats looking happy and living the
> good life.  Maybe put a link on the flyer to felineleukemia.org or other
> resource(s).  Distribute the flyer to local vet offices for when the vet
> gets a client with a cat that tests positive.  The vet could show the flyer
> to the owner so that the owner can see that there is support available, and
> that FeLV+ cats can live a happy life for a variable number of years.
>
> Marsha
>
> On 11/14/2014 1:00 PM, Kelley S wrote:
>
> There are some other places to list on Facebook, if you would like the
> links.  One thing that struck me when I read your post was confusion on my
> part as to what exactly you wanted.  It seemed to me reading it, and I may
> be reading things into this, that you did not want the kittens to go to a
> home with FELV+ cats in there already.   That, in addition to the adoption
> fee, is going to make it *almost* impossible to ever find these kittens a
> home (nothing is 100% impossible of course).  Also, once you adopt the
> kitten out, you don't have control over what the adopters do later.  They
> may bring in FELV+ cats later.  My heart kitty died of heart disease
> brought on by a congenital defect.  I spent a lot of time holding her and
> crying because she was going to die.  They are all going to die, we hope
> after many years in a happy home.  I spent more time mourning her death
> than I did celebrating her life.  This was  a grave mistake on my part.
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Marsha  wrote:
>
>> Some adopters may make a donation to the organization they adopt a
>> zero-fee cat from.  I did.  You might make a cat low or no fee, but say,
>> "donations gratefully accepted".  If you list on PetFinder, consider adding
>> FeLV+ to the heading, besides just listing them as "special needs".  Some
>> people are looking specifically for a FeLV+ cat as a companion for one they
>> already have, and not putting that in the heading forces those people to
>> sift through every special needs listing to find the FeLV+ kitty.  I turned
>> to PetFinder after having no luck locally finding a companion for Harley,
>> and did a search by zip code.  I specified "up to 100 miles", and that's
>> how I found Brock.  Actually, 113 miles away, but the search goes by zip
>> code.
>>
>> There are also some listings here (up for adoption or looking to adopt
>> FeLV, FIV, FIP +):
>> http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi
>> You can also get to that by the felineleukemia.org website.
>>
>> One other place to list is the PurringPixie yahoo group.
>>
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

Kelly, now *I'm* confused.  I don't want anything.  I was just sharing 
my personal experiences and putting some suggestions out there.  Some of 
the resources you or others may already know about, but others might be 
new to some people.  Feel free to list your Facebook resources so people 
here are aware of those too.   Or maybe you were really replying to the 
same person I was replying to?


Idea for everyone:  make up a flyer with some basic info about FeLV, 
with a picture of one or more or your FeLV+ cats looking happy and 
living the good life.  Maybe put a link on the flyer to 
felineleukemia.org or other resource(s).  Distribute the flyer to local 
vet offices for when the vet gets a client with a cat that tests 
positive.  The vet could show the flyer to the owner so that the owner 
can see that there is support available, and that FeLV+ cats can live a 
happy life for a variable number of years.


Marsha

On 11/14/2014 1:00 PM, Kelley S wrote:
There are some other places to list on Facebook, if you would like the 
links.  One thing that struck me when I read your post was confusion 
on my part as to what exactly you wanted.  It seemed to me reading it, 
and I may be reading things into this, that you did not want the 
kittens to go to a home with FELV+ cats in there already.   That, in 
addition to the adoption fee, is going to make it *almost* impossible 
to ever find these kittens a home (nothing is 100% impossible of 
course).  Also, once you adopt the kitten out, you don't have control 
over what the adopters do later.  They may bring in FELV+ cats later.  
My heart kitty died of heart disease brought on by a congenital 
defect.  I spent a lot of time holding her and crying because she was 
going to die.  They are all going to die, we hope after many years in 
a happy home.  I spent more time mourning her death than I did 
celebrating her life.  This was  a grave mistake on my part.


On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Marsha > wrote:


Some adopters may make a donation to the organization they adopt a
zero-fee cat from.  I did.  You might make a cat low or no fee,
but say, "donations gratefully accepted".  If you list on
PetFinder, consider adding FeLV+ to the heading, besides just
listing them as "special needs".  Some people are looking
specifically for a FeLV+ cat as a companion for one they already
have, and not putting that in the heading forces those people to
sift through every special needs listing to find the FeLV+ kitty. 
I turned to PetFinder after having no luck locally finding a

companion for Harley, and did a search by zip code.  I specified
"up to 100 miles", and that's how I found Brock.  Actually, 113
miles away, but the search goes by zip code.

There are also some listings here (up for adoption or looking to
adopt FeLV, FIV, FIP +):
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi
You can also get to that by the felineleukemia.org
 website.

One other place to list is the PurringPixie yahoo group.



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Not directly FELV+ related, but I think it could be an important tool for
keeping up with your cats' health:

http://www.cnet.com/news/smart-litter-box-gadget-tailio-monitors-your-cats-health/
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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

There are some other places to list on Facebook, if you would like the
links.  One thing that struck me when I read your post was confusion on my
part as to what exactly you wanted.  It seemed to me reading it, and I may
be reading things into this, that you did not want the kittens to go to a
home with FELV+ cats in there already.   That, in addition to the adoption
fee, is going to make it *almost* impossible to ever find these kittens a
home (nothing is 100% impossible of course).  Also, once you adopt the
kitten out, you don't have control over what the adopters do later.  They
may bring in FELV+ cats later.  My heart kitty died of heart disease
brought on by a congenital defect.  I spent a lot of time holding her and
crying because she was going to die.  They are all going to die, we hope
after many years in a happy home.  I spent more time mourning her death
than I did celebrating her life.  This was  a grave mistake on my part.

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 12:15 PM, Marsha  wrote:

> Some adopters may make a donation to the organization they adopt a
> zero-fee cat from.  I did.  You might make a cat low or no fee, but say,
> "donations gratefully accepted".  If you list on PetFinder, consider adding
> FeLV+ to the heading, besides just listing them as "special needs".  Some
> people are looking specifically for a FeLV+ cat as a companion for one they
> already have, and not putting that in the heading forces those people to
> sift through every special needs listing to find the FeLV+ kitty.  I turned
> to PetFinder after having no luck locally finding a companion for Harley,
> and did a search by zip code.  I specified "up to 100 miles", and that's
> how I found Brock.  Actually, 113 miles away, but the search goes by zip
> code.
>
> There are also some listings here (up for adoption or looking to adopt
> FeLV, FIV, FIP +): http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/
> classifieds/classifieds.cgi
> You can also get to that by the felineleukemia.org website.
>
> One other place to list is the PurringPixie yahoo group.
>
> Marsha
> (with Harley & Brock)
>
> On 11/14/2014 11:05 AM, Katherine K. wrote:
>
>> Amy,
>> I wish you the best of luck in placing these kittens. I had a litter of 4
>> positive kittens and tried very hard to find good homes for them, with no
>> luck, so they lived with me until they passed away, most before they were 1
>> year old. It was a very busy year, but they were a lovely little group and
>> it was nice seeing them stay together as a family for the time they had.
>> I have to agree with Kelley that a $115 adoption fee in reality is not
>> likely to help you get them placed in homes. In my experience, people just
>> don't want to adopt and get attached to, much less pay a fee for, a kitty
>> who will probably not live long. I was lucky enough to be working with a
>> larger rescue organization who covered their shots, spay/neuters and
>> testing expenses. I just provided the home, food, love and tears :)
>> I suggest making flyers with the best photos you can get, and make them
>> sound very friendly and loving. Play the sympathy card for all it's worth!
>> :)
>>
>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

Some adopters may make a donation to the organization they adopt a 
zero-fee cat from.  I did.  You might make a cat low or no fee, but say, 
"donations gratefully accepted".  If you list on PetFinder, consider 
adding FeLV+ to the heading, besides just listing them as "special 
needs".  Some people are looking specifically for a FeLV+ cat as a 
companion for one they already have, and not putting that in the heading 
forces those people to sift through every special needs listing to find 
the FeLV+ kitty.  I turned to PetFinder after having no luck locally 
finding a companion for Harley, and did a search by zip code.  I 
specified "up to 100 miles", and that's how I found Brock.  Actually, 
113 miles away, but the search goes by zip code.


There are also some listings here (up for adoption or looking to adopt 
FeLV, FIV, FIP +): 
http://www.bemikitties.com/felv/cgi-bin/suite/classifieds/classifieds.cgi

You can also get to that by the felineleukemia.org website.

One other place to list is the PurringPixie yahoo group.

Marsha
(with Harley & Brock)

On 11/14/2014 11:05 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

Amy,
I wish you the best of luck in placing these kittens. I had a litter 
of 4 positive kittens and tried very hard to find good homes for them, 
with no luck, so they lived with me until they passed away, most 
before they were 1 year old. It was a very busy year, but they were a 
lovely little group and it was nice seeing them stay together as a 
family for the time they had.
I have to agree with Kelley that a $115 adoption fee in reality is not 
likely to help you get them placed in homes. In my experience, people 
just don't want to adopt and get attached to, much less pay a fee for, 
a kitty who will probably not live long. I was lucky enough to be 
working with a larger rescue organization who covered their shots, 
spay/neuters and testing expenses. I just provided the home, food, 
love and tears :)
I suggest making flyers with the best photos you can get, and make 
them sound very friendly and loving. Play the sympathy card for all 
it's worth! :)





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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

2014-11-14 Thread Jennifer Lewis

I agree with Katherine. My rescue group was just happy that I was able to take 
and keep 2 + kitties that otherwise would have gone to a sanctuary after their 
long term fosters failed and bailed on them. 
As desperate as all rescue groups are for funds, they never even suggested a 
fee for either kitty. My baby Smoosh lasted for 14 months as she inherited the 
FeLV from her mother. Brynn came to me as an adult and is still here with us. 
We often think of getting her a companion, but our living situation is tenuous 
right now and we're in a holding pattern.
On Nov 14, 2014, at 9:05 AM, Katherine K. wrote:

> Amy,
> I wish you the best of luck in placing these kittens. I had a litter of 4 
> positive kittens and tried very hard to find good homes for them, with no 
> luck, so they lived with me until they passed away, most before they were 1 
> year old. It was a very busy year, but they were a lovely little group and it 
> was nice seeing them stay together as a family for the time they had. 
> I have to agree with Kelley that a $115 adoption fee in reality is not likely 
> to help you get them placed in homes. In my experience, people just don't 
> want to adopt and get attached to, much less pay a fee for, a kitty who will 
> probably not live long. I was lucky enough to be working with a larger rescue 
> organization who covered their shots, spay/neuters and testing expenses. I 
> just provided the home, food, love and tears :) 
> I suggest making flyers with the best photos you can get, and make them sound 
> very friendly and loving. Play the sympathy card for all it's worth! :)
> Good luck,
> Katherine
> 
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Kelley S  wrote:
> I must not be getting all the posts.  FELV+ kittens are very hard to 
> place,and the adoption fee you are charging doesn't make it easier.  I too do 
> rescue.   We adopted out a double positive cat to a person on this list. We 
> altered her, vaccinated her, tested and retested her.  We charged $25 and 
> today I doubt we'd charge that. She went to an excellent home, we got 
> pictures and updates.  She recently was euthanized due to severe 
> cardiomyopathy and lived 7.5 years.  I wish you the best of luck testing your 
> 5.  Maybe someone here has room for a new kitty:)
> 
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:53 AM,  wrote:
> I GOT ANNIE AS AN ADULT OF 4 YRS, BUT THE VET THINKS SHE WAS ALWAYS POSITIVE. 
>  SHE HAD NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE LADY'S HOUSE AND WAS SPOILED ROTTEN.  I HAVE 
> HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH MY OTHER CATS WHO WERE ANYWHERE FROM 1 YEAR TO 10 YEARS. 
>  MOST DIE OF OLD AGE AT 18 OR SO.  YOU DO HAVE TO BE VERY OBSERVANT AND CATCH 
> ANY PROBLEM BEFORE IT CAN GET STARTED.
> I AGREE, YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, BUT IF THEY REALLY LOVE CATS, THEY WILL 
> TAKE THE CHANCE AND LOVE THEM UNTIL THEY ARE GONE.  WHAT YOU GET FROM THEM IN 
> THAT SHORT TIME IS WORTH IT.
> 
>  Amy  wrote:
> > Did she get leukemia as a kitten?  I have a 12 year old leuk positive but I 
> > didn't get him til he was three so not sure if he had it as a kitten or an 
> > adult.  I also just lost one of my leuk positives that was 12, also got her 
> > around 4 so not sure when she got leukemia.  Anybody that I had with 
> > leukemia as a kitten hasn't made it past 2 :(  I know any of them can defy 
> > the odds and I always tell people that but I will warn people that there 
> > may be heartbreak ahead.  I think it is only fair.  Never stopped me from 
> > helping these little ones though.  They are all so special.
> >
> > We just had an entire litter convert at our rescue (which the vets and the 
> > specialists have told me is really unusual) so I'm hoping for the best for 
> > these little cuties.  So happy your Annie is doing well!!!
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
> > To: Amy ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
> >
> >
> > MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8 YEARS 
> > OLD .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Amy  wrote:
> > > I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia 
> > > positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by 
> > > somebody that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found 
> > > outdoors.  She got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested 
> > > positive and that the people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help 
> > > so we paid to have all 5 kittens tested this week.  All five are 
> > > positive.  The foster is willing to hold them for 30 days so we can 
> > > retest them but she does not want to euthanize (nor would we suggest 
> > > that) and she can't keep them.  She has five cats of her own and can't 
> > > take another 5.  She would like us to try to find adoptive homes for them.
> > >
> > > We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the homes 
> > > and do the adoptions through our rescue, Ani

Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

2014-11-14 Thread Katherine K.

Amy,
I wish you the best of luck in placing these kittens. I had a litter of 4
positive kittens and tried very hard to find good homes for them, with no
luck, so they lived with me until they passed away, most before they were 1
year old. It was a very busy year, but they were a lovely little group and
it was nice seeing them stay together as a family for the time they had.
I have to agree with Kelley that a $115 adoption fee in reality is not
likely to help you get them placed in homes. In my experience, people just
don't want to adopt and get attached to, much less pay a fee for, a kitty
who will probably not live long. I was lucky enough to be working with a
larger rescue organization who covered their shots, spay/neuters and
testing expenses. I just provided the home, food, love and tears :)
I suggest making flyers with the best photos you can get, and make them
sound very friendly and loving. Play the sympathy card for all it's worth!
:)
Good luck,
Katherine

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Kelley S  wrote:

> I must not be getting all the posts.  FELV+ kittens are very hard to
> place,and the adoption fee you are charging doesn't make it easier.  I too
> do rescue.   We adopted out a double positive cat to a person on this list.
> We altered her, vaccinated her, tested and retested her.  We charged $25
> and today I doubt we'd charge that. She went to an excellent home, we got
> pictures and updates.  She recently was euthanized due to severe
> cardiomyopathy and lived 7.5 years.  I wish you the best of luck testing
> your 5.  Maybe someone here has room for a new kitty:)
>
> On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:53 AM,  wrote:
>
>> I GOT ANNIE AS AN ADULT OF 4 YRS, BUT THE VET THINKS SHE WAS ALWAYS
>> POSITIVE.  SHE HAD NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE LADY'S HOUSE AND WAS SPOILED
>> ROTTEN.  I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH MY OTHER CATS WHO WERE ANYWHERE FROM 1
>> YEAR TO 10 YEARS.  MOST DIE OF OLD AGE AT 18 OR SO.  YOU DO HAVE TO BE VERY
>> OBSERVANT AND CATCH ANY PROBLEM BEFORE IT CAN GET STARTED.
>> I AGREE, YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, BUT IF THEY REALLY LOVE CATS, THEY WILL
>> TAKE THE CHANCE AND LOVE THEM UNTIL THEY ARE GONE.  WHAT YOU GET FROM THEM
>> IN THAT SHORT TIME IS WORTH IT.
>>
>>  Amy  wrote:
>> > Did she get leukemia as a kitten?  I have a 12 year old leuk positive
>> but I didn't get him til he was three so not sure if he had it as a kitten
>> or an adult.  I also just lost one of my leuk positives that was 12, also
>> got her around 4 so not sure when she got leukemia.  Anybody that I had
>> with leukemia as a kitten hasn't made it past 2 :(  I know any of them can
>> defy the odds and I always tell people that but I will warn people that
>> there may be heartbreak ahead.  I think it is only fair.  Never stopped me
>> from helping these little ones though.  They are all so special.
>> >
>> > We just had an entire litter convert at our rescue (which the vets and
>> the specialists have told me is really unusual) so I'm hoping for the best
>> for these little cuties.  So happy your Annie is doing well!!!
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> >  From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
>> > To: Amy ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:28 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
>> >
>> >
>> > MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8
>> YEARS OLD .
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >  Amy  wrote:
>> > > I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned
>> leukemia positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by
>> somebody that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found
>> outdoors.  She got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested positive
>> and that the people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help so we paid
>> to have all 5 kittens tested this week.  All five are positive.  The foster
>> is willing to hold them for 30 days so we can retest them but she does not
>> want to euthanize (nor would we suggest that) and she can't keep them.  She
>> has five cats of her own and can't take another 5.  She would like us to
>> try to find adoptive homes for them.
>> > >
>> > > We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the
>> homes and do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We
>> would love to find homes for them with people that know this disease.  We
>> have a black, a blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie.
>> Pictures are available if you email me.  We will determine sex and give
>> them names soon.  We will also retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA
>> to make sure they are positive if somebody wants them sooner and has other
>> leuk positives.  We wouldn't want to send them to a home with leukemia if
>> there is any chance they are going to fight it off but will all five
>> positive, we suspect some or all of them will remain positive.
>> > >
>> > > These kittens will not be free.  We will do all the vetting on them -

Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

I must not be getting all the posts.  FELV+ kittens are very hard to
place,and the adoption fee you are charging doesn't make it easier.  I too
do rescue.   We adopted out a double positive cat to a person on this list.
We altered her, vaccinated her, tested and retested her.  We charged $25
and today I doubt we'd charge that. She went to an excellent home, we got
pictures and updates.  She recently was euthanized due to severe
cardiomyopathy and lived 7.5 years.  I wish you the best of luck testing
your 5.  Maybe someone here has room for a new kitty:)

On Fri, Nov 14, 2014 at 8:53 AM,  wrote:

> I GOT ANNIE AS AN ADULT OF 4 YRS, BUT THE VET THINKS SHE WAS ALWAYS
> POSITIVE.  SHE HAD NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE LADY'S HOUSE AND WAS SPOILED
> ROTTEN.  I HAVE HAD NO PROBLEMS WITH MY OTHER CATS WHO WERE ANYWHERE FROM 1
> YEAR TO 10 YEARS.  MOST DIE OF OLD AGE AT 18 OR SO.  YOU DO HAVE TO BE VERY
> OBSERVANT AND CATCH ANY PROBLEM BEFORE IT CAN GET STARTED.
> I AGREE, YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, BUT IF THEY REALLY LOVE CATS, THEY WILL
> TAKE THE CHANCE AND LOVE THEM UNTIL THEY ARE GONE.  WHAT YOU GET FROM THEM
> IN THAT SHORT TIME IS WORTH IT.
>
>  Amy  wrote:
> > Did she get leukemia as a kitten?  I have a 12 year old leuk positive
> but I didn't get him til he was three so not sure if he had it as a kitten
> or an adult.  I also just lost one of my leuk positives that was 12, also
> got her around 4 so not sure when she got leukemia.  Anybody that I had
> with leukemia as a kitten hasn't made it past 2 :(  I know any of them can
> defy the odds and I always tell people that but I will warn people that
> there may be heartbreak ahead.  I think it is only fair.  Never stopped me
> from helping these little ones though.  They are all so special.
> >
> > We just had an entire litter convert at our rescue (which the vets and
> the specialists have told me is really unusual) so I'm hoping for the best
> for these little cuties.  So happy your Annie is doing well!!!
> >
> >
> > 
> >  From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
> > To: Amy ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:28 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
> >
> >
> > MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8
> YEARS OLD .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  Amy  wrote:
> > > I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia
> positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by somebody
> that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found outdoors.  She
> got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested positive and that the
> people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help so we paid to have all 5
> kittens tested this week.  All five are positive.  The foster is willing to
> hold them for 30 days so we can retest them but she does not want to
> euthanize (nor would we suggest that) and she can't keep them.  She has
> five cats of her own and can't take another 5.  She would like us to try to
> find adoptive homes for them.
> > >
> > > We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the
> homes and do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We
> would love to find homes for them with people that know this disease.  We
> have a black, a blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie.
> Pictures are available if you email me.  We will determine sex and give
> them names soon.  We will also retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA
> to make sure they are positive if somebody wants them sooner and has other
> leuk positives.  We wouldn't want to send them to a home with leukemia if
> there is any chance they are going to fight it off but will all five
> positive, we suspect some or all of them will remain positive.
> > >
> > > These kittens will not be free.  We will do all the vetting on them -
> spays/neuters, microchipping, rabies, distemper, flea and parasite
> treatment, etc., and will charge a $115 adoption fee.  We are a rescue and
> will not adopt out animals that are not fully vetted and we don't do free
> adoptions.  We are aware that they may not live past a year or two but they
> still deserve a loving, responsible home and proper veterinary care.
> > >
> > > If anybody is interested in helping one of these little beauties,
> please let us know.
> > >
> > > Amy Weygandt
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

2014-11-14 Thread dlgegg

I GOT ANNIE AS AN ADULT OF 4 YRS, BUT THE VET THINKS SHE WAS ALWAYS POSITIVE.  
SHE HAD NEVER BEEN OUTSIDE THE LADY'S HOUSE AND WAS SPOILED ROTTEN.  I HAVE HAD 
NO PROBLEMS WITH MY OTHER CATS WHO WERE ANYWHERE FROM 1 YEAR TO 10 YEARS.  MOST 
DIE OF OLD AGE AT 18 OR SO.  YOU DO HAVE TO BE VERY OBSERVANT AND CATCH ANY 
PROBLEM BEFORE IT CAN GET STARTED.  
I AGREE, YOU HAVE TO TELL PEOPLE, BUT IF THEY REALLY LOVE CATS, THEY WILL TAKE 
THE CHANCE AND LOVE THEM UNTIL THEY ARE GONE.  WHAT YOU GET FROM THEM IN THAT 
SHORT TIME IS WORTH IT.

 Amy  wrote: 
> Did she get leukemia as a kitten?  I have a 12 year old leuk positive but I 
> didn't get him til he was three so not sure if he had it as a kitten or an 
> adult.  I also just lost one of my leuk positives that was 12, also got her 
> around 4 so not sure when she got leukemia.  Anybody that I had with leukemia 
> as a kitten hasn't made it past 2 :(  I know any of them can defy the odds 
> and I always tell people that but I will warn people that there may be 
> heartbreak ahead.  I think it is only fair.  Never stopped me from helping 
> these little ones though.  They are all so special.
> 
> We just had an entire litter convert at our rescue (which the vets and the 
> specialists have told me is really unusual) so I'm hoping for the best for 
> these little cuties.  So happy your Annie is doing well!!!
> 
> 
> 
>  From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
> To: Amy ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:28 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
>  
> 
> MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8 YEARS 
> OLD .
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Amy  wrote: 
> > I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia 
> > positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by somebody 
> > that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found outdoors.  She 
> > got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested positive and that the 
> > people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help so we paid to have all 5 
> > kittens tested this week.  All five are positive.  The foster is willing to 
> > hold them for 30 days so we can retest them but she does not want to 
> > euthanize (nor would we suggest that) and she can't keep them.  She has 
> > five cats of her own and can't take another 5.  She would like us to try to 
> > find adoptive homes for them.
> > 
> > We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the homes 
> > and do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We would 
> > love to find homes for them with people that know this disease.  We have a 
> > black, a blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie.  Pictures are 
> > available if you email me.  We will determine sex and give them names soon. 
> >  We will also retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA to make sure 
> > they are positive if somebody wants them sooner and has other leuk 
> > positives.  We wouldn't want to send them to a home with leukemia if there 
> > is any chance they are going to fight it off but will all five positive, we 
> > suspect some or all of them will remain positive.
> > 
> > These kittens will not be free.  We will do all the vetting on them - 
> > spays/neuters, microchipping, rabies, distemper, flea and parasite 
> > treatment, etc., and will charge a $115 adoption fee.  We are a rescue and 
> > will not adopt out animals that are not fully vetted and we don't do free 
> > adoptions.  We are aware that they may not live past a year or two but they 
> > still deserve a loving, responsible home and proper veterinary care.  
> > 
> > If anybody is interested in helping one of these little beauties, please 
> > let us know.
> > 
> > Amy Weygandt
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

Did she get leukemia as a kitten?  I have a 12 year old leuk positive but I 
didn't get him til he was three so not sure if he had it as a kitten or an 
adult.  I also just lost one of my leuk positives that was 12, also got her 
around 4 so not sure when she got leukemia.  Anybody that I had with leukemia 
as a kitten hasn't made it past 2 :(  I know any of them can defy the odds and 
I always tell people that but I will warn people that there may be heartbreak 
ahead.  I think it is only fair.  Never stopped me from helping these little 
ones though.  They are all so special.

We just had an entire litter convert at our rescue (which the vets and the 
specialists have told me is really unusual) so I'm hoping for the best for 
these little cuties.  So happy your Annie is doing well!!!



 From: "dlg...@windstream.net" 
To: Amy ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, November 14, 2014 9:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens
 

MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8 YEARS OLD 
.




 Amy  wrote: 
> I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia 
> positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by somebody 
> that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found outdoors.  She 
> got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested positive and that the 
> people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help so we paid to have all 5 
> kittens tested this week.  All five are positive.  The foster is willing to 
> hold them for 30 days so we can retest them but she does not want to 
> euthanize (nor would we suggest that) and she can't keep them.  She has five 
> cats of her own and can't take another 5.  She would like us to try to find 
> adoptive homes for them.
> 
> We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the homes and 
> do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We would love to 
> find homes for them with people that know this disease.  We have a black, a 
> blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie.  Pictures are available 
> if you email me.  We will determine sex and give them names soon.  We will 
> also retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA to make sure they are 
> positive if somebody wants them sooner and has other leuk positives.  We 
> wouldn't want to send them to a home with leukemia if there is any chance 
> they are going to fight it off but will all five positive, we suspect some or 
> all of them will remain positive.
> 
> These kittens will not be free.  We will do all the vetting on them - 
> spays/neuters, microchipping, rabies, distemper, flea and parasite treatment, 
> etc., and will charge a $115 adoption fee.  We are a rescue and will not 
> adopt out animals that are not fully vetted and we don't do free adoptions.  
> We are aware that they may not live past a year or two but they still deserve 
> a loving, responsible home and proper veterinary care.  
> 
> If anybody is interested in helping one of these little beauties, please let 
> us know.
> 
> Amy Weygandt


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Re: [Felvtalk] 5 leukemia positive kittens

2014-11-14 Thread dlgegg

MAY NOT LIVE OVER A YEAR, BUT THEN YOU NEVER KNOW.  MY ANNIE IS NOW 8 YEARS OLD 
.

 Amy  wrote: 
> I volunteer for a rescue in Rochester, NY and have also owned leukemia 
> positive cats (rescues) for years.  We were recently contacted by somebody 
> that adopted out a kitten from a litter of 5 that she found outdoors.  She 
> got a call from the adopters that the kitten tested positive and that the 
> people needed to bring him back.  She wanted help so we paid to have all 5 
> kittens tested this week.  All five are positive.  The foster is willing to 
> hold them for 30 days so we can retest them but she does not want to 
> euthanize (nor would we suggest that) and she can't keep them.  She has five 
> cats of her own and can't take another 5.  She would like us to try to find 
> adoptive homes for them.
> 
> We have agreed to find homes for them if she will let us screen the homes and 
> do the adoptions through our rescue, Animal Service League.  We would love to 
> find homes for them with people that know this disease.  We have a black, a 
> blue cream, a gray and white, a calico and a tortie.  Pictures are available 
> if you email me.  We will determine sex and give them names soon.  We will 
> also retest them at 30 days or possibly do an IFA to make sure they are 
> positive if somebody wants them sooner and has other leuk positives.  We 
> wouldn't want to send them to a home with leukemia if there is any chance 
> they are going to fight it off but will all five positive, we suspect some or 
> all of them will remain positive.
> 
> These kittens will not be free.  We will do all the vetting on them - 
> spays/neuters, microchipping, rabies, distemper, flea and parasite treatment, 
> etc., and will charge a $115 adoption fee.  We are a rescue and will not 
> adopt out animals that are not fully vetted and we don't do free adoptions.  
> We are aware that they may not live past a year or two but they still deserve 
> a loving, responsible home and proper veterinary care.  
> 
> If anybody is interested in helping one of these little beauties, please let 
> us know.
> 
> Amy Weygandt


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