Re: positive

2006-04-21 Thread Claws-N-Paws Rescue




Oh Carrie...stop beating yourself 
up!  The fact is, you are a kind soul doing the best you 
can!
 
Truth be told, NO test, including the 
IFA is 100% accurate.  Truth be told, I have had POSITIVES go NEGATIVE in 
my care.  Truth be told, I am past the point of putting too much stock in 
these darn tests anymore, because I know that with exceptional diet, supplements 
and care, ANY FeLV and FIV + cat can live a very LONG, happy, healthy 
life!  The diseases are not death sentences, as you've heard over and over 
from this list.  
 
My suggestion, start reading.  I 
have a huge list of books I recommend on holistic supplements and diets that 
have done wonders for the rescues and fosters in my care.  I will gladly 
forward you the list if you'd like.  Move forward with a game plan on how 
to keep your clan healthy.  Dwelling on the negative energy these tests 
bring is so draining.
 
God Bless,
Rachel

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  hd cc 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 2:41 
PM
  Subject: Re: positive
  
  Sad, I euthanized the first one that showed positive, 
  once more started showing positive
  I decided to wait and not euthanize any! But now I feel 
  s bad and s guilty having
  her put down,SHAME ON ME, I didnt know. I want to cry 
  8-((
  Yes they are all elisa test Working on IFA test monday. 
  IF the IFA test is positive is that
  A FOR SURE? If it is negative what does that 
  mean?
   
  Carrie
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Susan 
Hoffman 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 11:52 
AM
Subject: Re: positive
No test is 100% accurate.  Are you using ELISA or IFA? 
The ELISA test is far less accurate, has a much higher number of falses 
positives.  I'm sure you can get false negatives too.  Also, it is 
possible to get a negative on a blood test if the virus is in the bone 
marrow.  (I have very little faith in the ELISA test, especially where 
a cat is very young or very old, or is ill or otherwise 
stressed.)hd cc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

  
  

  THIS IS GOOD NEWS, I HOPE YOUR RIGHT!
  My cats are adults, healthy, vaccinated and 
  vaccinated.
  This makes no since! 2 are at a year old and 
  tested both neg
  one tested neg in dec 27th, now 
  positive...
  Whatever has happened here has happened in 
  the
  last 3 months, this is how current it is that I know 
  of, SO
  with that said I have some hope, especially with my 
  adult
  cat 3 years old I think, maybe 4, he is BIG healthy 
  and strong
  No reason for this! 
   
  The one I put to sleep has been tested 5 
  times
  ALL neg and now positive! Her momma was FIV so when 
  she was little
  she to tested positive for FIV, every month I tested 
  her, at 6 months her
  and her sister were neg. Now her sister is still Neg 
  for both and she is FELV
  positive, my vet cant even make since out of this at 
  all, no one knows what to think
  I just know it has just recently started, no 
  mating, no fightingCarrie
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
TenHouseCats 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Friday, April 21, 2006 10:20 
AM
Subject: Re: positive

yeah, well, that IS the question
 
70% of adult, healthy cats can be exposed to the virus and throw it 
off--it's generally believed to take 90-120 days for that to happen if 
it's gonna. therefore, unless you know EXACTLY where (and with whom!) 
the cat has been in the previous 90-120 days, you can't really believe 
either a negative OR a positive result this means that cats who have 
been exposed, but will throw off the virus, will be killed in the 
shelters/rescues/vet's offices because they don't have either the 
information or the facilities to hold the kitty for retesting; if also 
means that a stray from the streets who tests negative may still have 
been exposed in the recent past and may test positive later on 

 
even cats tested positive on the ifa can retest negative after a 
time--i'd found a reference once, tho it's no longer where it was 
originally!--that in rare cases the time for an IFA to go back to 
negative was up to 7 months following exposure. 
 
i have never heard of a documented case of a vaccinated negative 
cat turning positive from living, closely, with positives
 
i do know of a number of cats who originally tested positive (back 
before people knew to retest) who did indeed test negative months and 
even years after they'd gone to live in positive-only environments--so 
cle

Re: Transportation question

2006-04-18 Thread Claws-N-Paws Rescue



Forgot to 
add...
 
Delta is very lenient about health 
certs for carry-on pets.  They are not required, though you might be 
required to produce one in certain states upon arrival (Hawaii is one I know of 
for certain).
 
Good luck!

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  gary 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:07 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Transportation 
question
  
  Is Tucson FeLV+?  I have 2 cats who are 
  positive and the certificate I got for our dog so we could take her on 
  vacation (flying and they never asked for it) states that she is free of 
  contagious and infectious diseases, can't see how you could get one for a 
  FeLV+ or FIV+ cat.
   
  Gary
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Chris 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:31 
AM
Subject: RE: Transportation 
question


I’ve flown twice 
with my Tucson and had health 
certificates each time.  Airlines never looked at it but I would never 
chance not having one.
 

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Re: Transportation question

2006-04-18 Thread Claws-N-Paws Rescue



We've both transported cats by car 
and air that were FeLV+ or FIV+.  Both the US Agri Services - Vet Dept and 
the CDC have the regulations posted for transporting animals.  This is from 
the CDC's website:
 
Cats (Note: this section updated 
March 28, 2006)


  
  A general certificate of health is not required by CDC 
  for entry of pet cats into the United States or for travel throughout, 
  although some airlines or states may require them. However, pet cats are 
  subject to inspection at ports of entry and may be denied entry into the 
  United States if they have evidence of an infectious disease that can be 
  transmitted to humans. If a cat appears to be ill, further examination by a 
  licensed veterinarian at the owner's expense might be required at the port of 
  entry.
In my personal experience in 
transporting + cats to hospice colonies and forever homes out of state, the vets 
we work with have always signed a health certificate including a statement that 
the cat has tested positive for FeLV or FIV, but the disease is not active, 
meaning they have no secondary infections.  As long as our rescues are free 
of any signs of illness, our vets will provide us a certificate.  Most 
states require proof of rabies vaccination.  You'll have to check with 
each individual airline to find out if they have their own policies apart from 
the CDC.
 
You can always contact the CDC or Vet 
Services Dept of US Ag.  Here is the CDC's number - (404) 631-3441 or the 
US Ag's Vet Services Dept - (301) 734-3277.
 
~ Rachel
 
- Original Message - 

  From: 
  gary 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 8:07 
  AM
  Subject: Re: Transportation 
question
  
  Is Tucson FeLV+?  I have 2 cats who are 
  positive and the certificate I got for our dog so we could take her on 
  vacation (flying and they never asked for it) states that she is free of 
  contagious and infectious diseases, can't see how you could get one for a 
  FeLV+ or FIV+ cat.
   
  Gary
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Chris 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, April 18, 2006 1:31 
AM
Subject: RE: Transportation 
question


I’ve flown twice 
with my Tucson and had health 
certificates each time.  Airlines never looked at it but I would never 
chance not having one.
 

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]