Re: [Felvtalk] kitten with FeLV
Dear Sandra, My Kitty (his name) has FELV, we got him when he was 7 months from students. He was diagnosed with Felv when he was not quite two, he is now 8 1/2 and the felv has been kept at bay with the Prednisone. I also worried about my other cat Simba being exposed to him, because they would played and sleep together and this was long before we knew Kitty had the Felv. It has been 6 1/2 years now and Simba has been tested and no sign of Felv. Both have always been indoor cats. Liz Date: Fri, 3 Jul 2009 21:37:43 -0400 From: gopila...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] kitten with FeLV Hi there, I'm new to this... looking for some advice. I took in a stray, she's about 7 months old. She tested positive for FeLV. I didn't know she had FeLV. I took her in as she was hanging out on the patio of a restaurant, near a busy street. The owners of the restaurant were going to take her to the humane society. I already have a cat, who is not FeLV positive. The stray is with me while I try to re-home her, and my cat is with a friend. In an ideal world, I would like to keep the stray (Penny) and have her and my cat. Is this possible? Should I have Penny re-tested with a DNA test to make sure she does have FeLV? My cat (Stella) is an indoor cat, 7 years old. and has had all of her shots every year except for the last year. Is there any way they can live together with Penny being FeLV positive? any insight or links to relevant websites/postings would be greatly appreciated! thank you. s. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving...
Thank You for posting this Emily, it touched my heart. Liz. From: emilyofw...@aol.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tue, 2 Jun 2009 20:35:43 -0500 Subject: [Felvtalk] To all who are grieving... ...most gentle thoughts. It is the nature of a list like this that there is constant loss to deal with, and the fiftieth one is no easier than the first. But with each story, I am struck by the remarkable people here, who did not choose the easy way out and put a cat to sleep simply because he or she tested positive. There is a lot of grief here, but a lot of love as well. The kitties waiting for us all at the Bridge were blessed to find human families who saw the value in them despite the dread diagnosis. -Emily Sent from my iPhone ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Create a cool, new character for your Windows Live™ Messenger. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9656621 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick
Hi Laurie, As you know we went to the vet today and did the blood panel and urinalysis and then decided to do the ear test. By this time Kitty was overly stressed and subsequently received a 23.3 reading. It was just a few days ago when he got a 13.9 reading. I wish that he did this test first to reduce all his stress. He had his prednisone yesterday and of course we've been giving him the Methyl B12 which does have sugar in it. However he is more lively and has more strength in his hind quarters-it's not perfect but much better than just a few days ago. We're so disappointed with the ear prick test but have high hopes regarding the urinalysis and blood work. We spoke to the vet briefly regarding Lantus and have found out that our pharmacy stocks it which is good. Today wasn't the right time to go into everything until all the tests come back but we made it clear to him that we are going to take a proactive role in Kitty's health.At this point in time I'm not interested in how this vet feels. We got Kitty through the FELV with a very good knowlegeable friend when everyone else was telling us to put him down but six years later we still have him. This is definitely going to be hard for me. I have no problem giving needles to other people including myself but I have a hard time with my cats. When I had to give Simba antibiotics for 10 days I was lousy at it and didn't have the thrust to get the needle in. I know that I will think positively and for sure we'll be home testing. If this all comes to pass and he has to go on insulin I just have to keep repeating to myself that I will be able to do it as I have no choice. Thank you so much Laurie for all your help. Tomorrow when we hear from the vet I will let you know what the outcome is. Liz Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 03:33:16 -0700 From: laurai...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick My Positive blind girl is sick, I have had her for just a year now and this is the first time she's been ill. I had my neighbor take her to my vet yesterday and she had a fever of 104.9, she's also not eating much and VERY lethargic. I'm very worried. I adopted Laura (she was named after me by my vets staff, long story) because she was living at the vets, was blind and being tormented by another cat. I had her tested when I brought her home and found out she was pos, she came from a colony that had alot of pos's, so I think she'd been pos since a kitten, just didn't show on her first snap test. Anyway, at that time we found out the cat that was bullying her was also pos, he recently passed away. Laura will be three next month, I've read that many kitties don't live more than 2-3 years after diagnosis.. Vet drew blood yesterday so today we should get those results back...please keep a good thought it's not something dire. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Internet explorer 8 lets you browse the web faster. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655582 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick
I'm so sorry Laurie, I sent an email to you by mistake; it was for someone at the pet diabetes group. Laura God must have put us together. Regarding your baby Laura our Kitty (his real name) was diagnosed with FELV when he was 2. Kitty is now turning 8 years old and has fought many an infection. He's on prednisone 2.5 mg every other day and has been as healthy and vibrant as any other cat and you would not be able to tell the difference. It just so happens that we've been told that he could have diabetes so another mountain to climb and another battle to win. Don't give up, never quit and just keep loving her-magic happens look at our Kitty. Please write me any time you want if you have any questions or ever need someone to talk to. Laura what a wonderful thing you did taking in a sweet little girl. Regardless of whatever happens look at the love she's been receiving from you. God bless. Liz Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 03:33:16 -0700 From: laurai...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ kitty is sick My Positive blind girl is sick, I have had her for just a year now and this is the first time she's been ill. I had my neighbor take her to my vet yesterday and she had a fever of 104.9, she's also not eating much and VERY lethargic. I'm very worried. I adopted Laura (she was named after me by my vets staff, long story) because she was living at the vets, was blind and being tormented by another cat. I had her tested when I brought her home and found out she was pos, she came from a colony that had alot of pos's, so I think she'd been pos since a kitten, just didn't show on her first snap test. Anyway, at that time we found out the cat that was bullying her was also pos, he recently passed away. Laura will be three next month, I've read that many kitties don't live more than 2-3 years after diagnosis.. Vet drew blood yesterday so today we should get those results back...please keep a good thought it's not something dire. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Find info faster and easier with Internet Explorer 8. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9655583 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS
Laurie I'm so sorry about Charlotte, just a note to let you know I care and I'm thinking about you. I agree with you I hate this disease also. Liz. Date: Tue, 5 May 2009 21:51:19 -0700 From: hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please add Charlotte to the CLS Charlotte has just passed away. I came home from work, went into her room and she was lying on her side, crying and breathing heavily. I ran and let my dogs out, came back to her and held her for what turned out to be about 4 hours. She gradually slowed down, but was responding to my voice for quite a while. Eventually that stopped and I knew she was probably unconscious. She passed at the stroke of midnight, and I know it sounds crazy, but I immediately felt so calm - I can only explain it by saying that as soon as she died I physically felt her suffering end. It was so strange. I am sitting here crying as I write this even though I know it's better and she won't be in pain any more. But she'd been doing so well and eating like a pig. Just this morning she was stuffing her face with chicken. So I thought that maybe I could have her with me for just a while longer, and just maybe she'd be one who survived despite the odds. Guess I was wrong. I hate this disease. Thanks everyone for all your help. Laura ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live helps you keep up with all your friends, in one place. http://go.microsoft.com/?linkid=9660826 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Survey
AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? Kitty (that's his name) was 2 years old. WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ I groom him and show him love, (I was told this helps to relax him)changed his diet used oxygen 7 in his water, and 1 5mg of prednisone each day for 1 year..we now give him 1/2 (250mg) every other day..he is now 8 yrs old. he eats wellness and Fancy Feast. WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, I keep all my cats indoors. ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? Yes, I have a 13 year old Simba HAS YOUR CAT HAD/ Kitty broke his ankle when he was about 1 and a half years old..I still believe in my heart this is when he picked up the Felv from the Vet...but hey told me. Never. IS YOUR CAT NOW? Both are still alive ..and Kitty is as healthy as a horse.o sorry, but your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. ___ _ How fun is this? IMing with Windows Live Messenger just got better. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/messenger.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: Kitten with an enlarged heart...
Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2007 12:40:04 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Kitten with an enlarged heart... I belong to this feline heart group, my Joey is HCM for a few years now. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-heart/ -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com Thank you Belinda for the site just finished posting on it. Thank you again. Liz _ Have fun while connecting on Messenger! Click here to learn more. http://entertainment.sympatico.msn.ca/WindowsLiveMessenger
Kitten with an enlarged heart...
Dear friends, My cat kitty with Felv is doing fine at the moment. But I was wondering if anyone could give me any information on a kitten with an enlarged heart, also with some fluid around it. In the beginning of September my daughter rescued three little kittens all girls, my new little granfurbabies. One is now 22 weeks and the other two are now 16 weeks (these two are sisters). My daughter noticed one of the little sisters (Leia) was making a funny sound periodically so she took her to the vet today and he x-rayed her and said she had fluid around her heart and that the heart was also enlarged. The vet said there is no murmur and as far as he was concerned there does not seem to be any blockage. He said her heart seems to be working over time this is why it is enlarged, he told my daughter not to worry unless the little kitten opens her mouth and starts to pant then she should bring Leia back. Would anyone have any kind of info on this. I feel (and I could be wrong) that there may be something else that could be done. The vet said Leia is to young to be giving any kind of Meds . I don't want my daughter's heart (or mine ) to be broken if he is wrong. The vet told my daughter not to worry that Leia could grow out of this. Enlarged heart with fluid around it...I do feel worried. Any info would be appreciated. Thank You Liz. _ R U Ready for Windows Live Messenger Beta 8.5? Try it today! http://entertainment.sympatico.msn.ca/WindowsLiveMessenger
RE: Kitten with an enlarged heart...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Kitten with an enlarged heart... Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:52:57 -0600 My best advice is to keep Leia's life as stress-free as possible. THAT should slow down her heart rate. This may not be what your kitten hasmy elder cat Keisha had fluid around her heart. It was congestive heart failure. Hers manifested in respiratory distress. It can be treated but not cured. Keisha was over 11 when diagnosed. I took her in the day after her purr sounded like it was echoing inside her and I heard a clicking noise when I put my head to her chest. She was also eating less and seemed to be in pain when moving her rear legs. An xray revealed fluid around her lungs. Keisha was also asthmatic and horribly allergic to many things. We also found a lung mass on her xray. It was cancer.so, different from your kitten. Lucy has a valentine shaped heart. We discovered this with a chest xray as part of an annual check up. She had no symptoms. Her diagnosis is HCM and I forget what the H stands for. The rest is: cardiomyopathy. She is almost 10. She recently started medication to slow down her very fast heart rate (220 beats per minute). It is working great (now 120 beats per minute) and she is the happiest she's been for a long time. Risk: she could go into congestive heart failure. We have to keep her stress level low. We may be able to discontinue her meds at some point. A friend's cat 2 year old cat was diagnosed with a heart murmur. She was on heart medicine for awhile and is doing great without it now. The main thing with her is she needs to be monitored if under anesthesia and stress kept to a minimum. My sister's cat also has a heart problem and is taking the same med Lucy is. He is doing fine. He's 12 or older. You could ask for or find a specialist. A cardiologist or an internal medicine specialist ...if you want to get a second opinion. Lucy goes to an internal med doctor. She prescribed her meds in treat form. Lucy eats them like a treat. Easy. I try not to worry but to get informed. I think my cats sense my worry.I also think I can invite the very thing I dread if I give it too much attention. Peace, Laurie - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Paz To: Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: Kitten with an enlarged heart... Dear friends, My cat kitty with Felv is doing fine at the moment. But I was wondering if anyone could give me any information on a kitten with an enlarged heart, also with some fluid around it. In the beginning of September my daughter rescued three little kittens all girls, my new little granfurbabies. One is now 22 weeks and the other two are now 16 weeks (these two are sisters). My daughter noticed one of the little sisters (Leia) was making a funny sound periodically so she took her to the vet today and he x-rayed her and said she had fluid around her heart and that the heart was also enlarged. The vet said there is no murmur and as far as he was concerned there does not seem to be any blockage. He said her heart seems to be working over time this is why it is enlarged, he told my daughter not to worry unless the little kitten opens her mouth and starts to pant then she should bring Leia back. Would anyone have any kind of info on this. I feel (and I could be wrong) that there may be something else that could be done. The vet said Leia is to young to be giving any kind of Meds . I don't want my daughter's heart (or mine ) to be broken if he is wrong. The vet told my daughter not to worry that Leia could grow out of this. Enlarged heart with fluid around it...I do feel worried. Any info would be appreciated. Thank You Liz. _ R U Ready for Windows Live Messenger Beta 8.5? Try it today! http://entertainment.sympatico.msn.ca/WindowsLiveMessenger Thank you once more Laurie for taking the time to help. I will forward your email to my daughter. We live in Canada so we will have to scout around for a specialist , thank you for all your advice. Liz _ Have fun while connecting on Messenger! Click here to learn more. http://entertainment.sympatico.msn.ca/WindowsLiveMessenger
RE: Kitten with an enlarged heart...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Kitten with an enlarged heart... Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:53:55 -0600 ps there are a couple heart related yahoo groups. Have you found them? L - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Paz To: Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: Kitten with an enlarged heart... No Laurie I did not know there was groups for the heart for cats..Would you know of the link? I have only delt with the Felv for years. Thank you for your quick response. Liz. _ Have fun while connecting on Messenger! Click here to learn more. http://entertainment.sympatico.msn.ca/WindowsLiveMessenger
RE: Kitten with an enlarged heart...
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Kitten with an enlarged heart... Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 20:23:56 -0600 Here is one link: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/tributetobuddy/ The other 2 are more specialized ~~one for specific breed and the other for CRF and heart disease. You can find them under feline heart disease at yahoo groups. I also like the yahoo group ~ petvetcafe. There are veterinarians that will respond to questions. You can research previous posts about heart problems and also ask questions. Good to find a vet whose answers you like and put their name in the subject line along with your issue...e.g. Dr. X help kitten with enlarged heart/fluid Take care and keep us posted Laurie - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Paz To: Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:59 PM Subject: RE: Kitten with an enlarged heart... From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Kitten with an enlarged heart... Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2007 19:53:55 -0600 ps there are a couple heart related yahoo groups. Have you found them? L - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Paz To: Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:03 PM Subject: Kitten with an enlarged heart... No Laurie I did not know there was groups for the heart for cats..Would you know of the link? I have only delt with the Felv for years. Thank you for your quick response. Liz. _ Have fun while connecting on Messenger! Click here to learn more. http://entertainment.sympatico.msn.ca/WindowsLiveMessenger Thank you Laurie I will. Liz. _ Send a smile, make someone laugh, have some fun! Start now! http://www.freemessengeremoticons.ca/?icid=EMENCA122
re: Prednisone and doing great......
Hi C J, One morning I noticed his eyes were cloudy so we immediately rush to the vet. He said it was Uveitis and it could be caused by a underlying problem. He took a full blood panel and of course we got the sad results that he had Felv. As I said before I had never heard about this disease, I know when he was a kitten he had his needles for it but the disease itself I knew nothing about. I never understood where it came from as all my cats have always been indoor cats. But there it was. He then started us on the prednisone, all I can say is that it has been a life saver for him. At one point they had asked us to put him down but we desided this was not an option, and with lots of love and caring and of course lots of prayers he is so happy and healthy so far. I felt the same as you are feeling about his immune system but I knew there was really not too much of a choice. I contacted a wonderful vet in the States (we are in Canada) Dr. Jean Hofve and had a phone consultation with her and followed her advice more so than my own vet as he had little to say on felv, but she was fantastic and took away my fears regarding prednisone and his immune system. I know it's a worry but I guess you have to see what is best for your kitty. Read and go into all the Anemia sites and talk to the forum members I'm sure many are going through the same dilemma. The way we all share this wonderful felv site and all the info. Good Luck . m: C J [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Prednisone and doing great.. Date: Mon, 14 May 2007 19:24:41 -0500 I'm just curious. What condition was your vet treating with Prednisone? Was it just due to being FeLV+, or were there symptoms the vet was treating? I've been giving prednisone for anemia, but I am trying to wean my kitty off of it. I've been suppressing his immune system for 2 months now, and I don't think that is the best thing for him. Cassandra - Original Message - From: Elizabeth Paz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 6:41 PM Subject: Prednisone and doing great.. Hi Teresa, My cat was diagnosed with felv when he was 2 yrs old, he is now 7 1/2. It was such a shock at the time as I have had so many cats and this was the first time I had ever heard of felv. He was put on 5 mg of Prednisone a day and is still going strong and I do mean strong. The vet began lowering the dose after the first year and slowly continued. We now give him 2.5 every other day and have been doing so for about 2 yrs now. We did try to take him off of it completely, but after about 3 months we noticed he was a bit hangy so we started it back up again and if you could see him he is a chunk and so healthy. It's so hard to know we share this world with people that dump or throw little beating hearts away like garbage. God Bless people like you Teresa. From: Teresa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Prednisone? Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 10:35:48 -0500 I recently have acquired several felv+ cats, the one who is sick at the moment is a pathetic case who was dropped off on the highway near a farm, a very popular dumping spot I've been monitoring for the past few years. Many or most of them end up at home with me if they seem not to be faring well at the farm. Anyway, turns out this poor thing is totally blind as well as felv+. I mean he sees NOTHING. I've had many cats who were legally blind but this one doesn't even react to bright light. He was dumped, in winter no less, along a highway roaring with 18 wheelers night and day. How this critter ever lived this long, he's probably 4-5 years old, is totally beyond me. Well I did not mean to get harping that, I'll never get off it. It just makes me sick to my stomach. Timmy is the most loving, slobbering, kissable, hugable, sweet thing to come along for a long time. But I have to guide him to his food dish and this is inside his cage. I mean, how has he LIVED? I suspect whoever dropped him didn't realize he was blind. Cats can sure fool you. But then again, seems it would be hard for him to fool anyone when he has to be shown his food dish. My understanding is that this farm only feeds cats that are dumped off dog food and cow milk, so the daughter told me a couple years ago. And the night I picked him up, Timmy's stomach was making very loud growling noises for several hours, and seemed distended. That all went away in a day or so and I attributed it to drinking milk Ok, what I was checking the list for was, some time ago I thought I saw some info on prednisone use in felv+ cats but I don't find it now. (Also several of the links from the felv site do not work at the moment, including the Cornell info one.) I haven't been giving Timmy pred, or anything solely for his felv, but he's
Prednisone and doing great......
Hi Teresa, My cat was diagnosed with felv when he was 2 yrs old, he is now 7 1/2. It was such a shock at the time as I have had so many cats and this was the first time I had ever heard of felv. He was put on 5 mg of Prednisone a day and is still going strong and I do mean strong. The vet began lowering the dose after the first year and slowly continued. We now give him 2.5 every other day and have been doing so for about 2 yrs now. We did try to take him off of it completely, but after about 3 months we noticed he was a bit hangy so we started it back up again and if you could see him he is a chunk and so healthy. It's so hard to know we share this world with people that dump or throw little beating hearts away like garbage. God Bless people like you Teresa. From: Teresa [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Prednisone? Date: Sat, 12 May 2007 10:35:48 -0500 I recently have acquired several felv+ cats, the one who is sick at the moment is a pathetic case who was dropped off on the highway near a farm, a very popular dumping spot I've been monitoring for the past few years. Many or most of them end up at home with me if they seem not to be faring well at the farm. Anyway, turns out this poor thing is totally blind as well as felv+. I mean he sees NOTHING. I've had many cats who were legally blind but this one doesn't even react to bright light. He was dumped, in winter no less, along a highway roaring with 18 wheelers night and day. How this critter ever lived this long, he's probably 4-5 years old, is totally beyond me. Well I did not mean to get harping that, I'll never get off it. It just makes me sick to my stomach. Timmy is the most loving, slobbering, kissable, hugable, sweet thing to come along for a long time. But I have to guide him to his food dish and this is inside his cage. I mean, how has he LIVED? I suspect whoever dropped him didn't realize he was blind. Cats can sure fool you. But then again, seems it would be hard for him to fool anyone when he has to be shown his food dish. My understanding is that this farm only feeds cats that are dumped off dog food and cow milk, so the daughter told me a couple years ago. And the night I picked him up, Timmy's stomach was making very loud growling noises for several hours, and seemed distended. That all went away in a day or so and I attributed it to drinking milk Ok, what I was checking the list for was, some time ago I thought I saw some info on prednisone use in felv+ cats but I don't find it now. (Also several of the links from the felv site do not work at the moment, including the Cornell info one.) I haven't been giving Timmy pred, or anything solely for his felv, but he's gotten this upper respiratory that is going through my flock and got real sick with it and is now improving with baytril spiked with some dexamethasone just to allow him to breathe better etc. But I understood that pred can be beneficial in felv. Actually I think I snatched him from the jaws of death this time, my fingers are still crossed. Another felv+, Inky, that I picked up at the same time, just died last night from this virus, in spite of the most intensive treatments we could give him. I do have a wonderful vet. But of course I still like to double check up to put into context, what he might be saying about this subject or others. But he has won my confidence over the past 5 years but again, YOU GUYS are the real experts. So can anyone tell me where the pred info is or any thoughts on building Timmy up for future battles? I've been sort of subconsciously switching him over to people food, first as a means of enticing him to eat but the more I've been thinking about this pet food adulteration situation, the more it seems to answer my questions for such a long time now, about why kidney failure seems to be such a big issue with cats these days. What have we been feeding our cats lately? I guess we have no way of really knowing. At least people food is usually more recognizable, you can SEE a piece of meat or a carrot. With cat food, who knows? And now they say even fish meal is contaminated, and that seems to be used in almost all cat foods. He loved chicken noodle soup (low salt kind) and went nuts for some chicken ala king awhile ago, also a little tuna. Oh yes, he is very very hard to pill! He will crouch in the far part of his big cage where I can't reach him and hold it against me for a few days if I even try it. I try to stick to injectible baytril. So it would seem giving a lot of vitamins and supplements would be out. Thanks for listening. _ Windows Live Hotmail is the next generation of MSN Hotmail. Its fast, simple, and safer than ever and best of all its still free. Try it today! www.newhotmail.ca?icid=WLHMENCA146
Re: Here's the Poem I wrote after losing Tidge for those who wantedto see it.
Dear Michelle what a wonderful poem to your sweet little Tridge. It touches all of our hearts. Liz. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Here's the Poem I wrote after losing Tidge for those who wantedto see it. Date: Tue, 17 Jan 2006 09:21:58 -0600 Thank you Michelle! What a wonderful poem...you've certainly got a gift! I tried to tell myself that I wouldn't cry before reading it...but by the time I got to the end, my lap was full of kleenex! Thank you, again...you've expressed so well what I feel in my heart! Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, January 15, 2006 1:12 pm Subject: Here's the Poem I wrote after losing Tidge for those who wanted to see it. Poem for Little Tidge We found each other wandering - I gave you shelter from the storm The misfortunes life had dealt you left you frightened and withdrawn Our lives combined, our love grew strong, and you knew that you were saved From past neglect and heartache when love was all you ever craved Now Im left in turmoil, trying hard to comprehend The reasons why god took away my very special friend I know you had to leave me and that was meant to be And I hope that in the place you are, from pain you will stay free I look around each day for you in hope that youll appear It hurts so much to face the truth that youre no longer here Your unexpected passing left me broken and destroyed When your cruel unfair departure left an overwhelming void Not a day goes by when I dont pray to keep you safe from harm Then I pray your spirit finds me to help me calm my inner storm My late departed friend, I dont think Ill ever understand Why you, still young and innocent, were taken from this land I know that you would not desire me harbour such dismay So forgive my times of weakness but you are in my heart to stay My life must now continue much in the way it did before Though without you here beside me, for a while I will feel poor Despite these dismal feelings I can recall how rich Ive been Because the day I found you wandering was when my heart began to beam Please know how much I love you, and Im glad our paths did cross The short time that we shared will never be a loss And friend I ask please wait for me for one day Ill return To comfort and protect thee - but for now our hearts must yearn Heaven and earth may hinder until my time is done But with togetherness our future, our souls are destined to be one Michelle Lomax (April 2005) It's amazing how creativity comes out with emotion but writing the poem whilst painful was also cathartic. I guess much of the poem applies to all of us at some point. Hope you enjoy it xx Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel Angel Bramble
Nina
Nina thank you for. Please try to get a hold of your emotions. I completely understand about tearing up at just the thought of losing him, I really do get it. It's easier said than done, but those strong panicky emotions don't help anyone. Put the energy into resolving to fight for him to recover! Do your best to not mourn him before he's gone. He's still here, right beside you, (well, okay at this point he may be hiding under the bed!). Enjoy each moment you have with him still in the physical. Close your eyes, take a deep breath, square your shoulders and commit to him and yourself to do everything you can to help him. What else can we do? What a wonderful message, you got me back on the Sane path againStill having a problem with the feeding and I must admit hubby and I get hit with most of the food (Kitty is a head shaker) but we are still trying and giving him lots of love, as usual. But explain to him what we are doing and if he could help us. But he has a look in his eyes that says, In Your Dreams but we will keep trying. The Ophthalmologist told us that he has Active Uveitis, but wants to hold back the prednisone from his eyes for now, unless of course that the eyes change for the worst. 2 yrs ago he ended up with 5 Corneal Ulcers, she said she was sure they were cause by taking prednisone orally and using it at the same time in his eyes. I know there may be no other way, it is such a catch 22 with Kitty having the FELV, but as I said Nina she wants to wait about a wek to see if the oral meds kick in and also help his eyes. She asked me to keep my eye on him for any changes in the eyes. My own Vet will be back on the 8th of this month so I will get Kitty back there and get a real good check up, then we will be going back to the ophtho in 2 weeks, now during this waiting period I must get the food into my wee boy. Spoon, finger, syringe what ever works. Thank you for all your help Nina, and especially for the shake into reality. Your friend Lisa.
Jen----Nutrical
I've never heard of Nutrical, is it a food supplement? This sounds very good and quite easy to give, at this point I am willing to try anything. Thank you so much, I will be picking up a tube tomorrow. BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1 From: i[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ibrReply-To: ifelvtalk@felineleukemia.org/ibrTo: ifelvtalk@felineleukemia.org/ibrSubject: iRe: RE: Lisa--Nutrical/ibrDate: iWed, 31 Aug 2005 12:16:34 -0500/ibrgt;This is a good way to administer Nutrical, if it hasn't been suggestedbrgt;already! It's a high-calorie gel that comes in a tube (can also bebrgt;found at Petsmart, etc.)...just put some on your finger and scrapebrgt;against the roof of kitty's mouth...I've also put some on paws so thatbrgt;they're forced to lick it off...but you can't put too much as cat's havebrgt;a tendency to want to shake it off before they lick it off...I've gotbrgt;splatterings of Nutrical all over the kitchen!brgt;brgt;brgt;brgt;quot;But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will bebrgt;unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; Youbrgt;become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed...quot; --Antoine debrgt;Saint-Exupérybrgt;brgt;quot;If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will knowbrgt;each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and whatbrgt;you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys.quot; --Chief Danbrgt;Georgebrgt;brgt;- Original Message -brgt;From: Hideyo Yamamoto lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;brgt;Date: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 11:13 ambrgt;Subject: RE: Lisabrgt;brgt; gt; Hi, Lisa, are you using syringe? I have one cat, Leo who justbrgt; gt; hated tobrgt; gt; be fed with syringe and everthing could come out from his mouth ---brgt; gt;brgt; gt; My vet also told me a different way of feeding with your finger - youbrgt; gt; take a pallatble food like baby food or cannned food, and put some onbrgt; gt; the tip of your pointing finger . you put the food side up (thebrgt; gt; oppositeside of where your nail is), and put it into his mouth --brgt; gt; rub againstbrgt; gt; the top of his palate -brgt; gt;brgt; gt; How is he doing today?brgt; gt; -Original Message-brgt; gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]brgt; gt; [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elizabethbrgt; gt; PazSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 10:11 PMbrgt; gt; To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgbrgt; gt; Subject: Hideyobrgt; gt;brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Thank you for your kind words, I will keep trying. It just that hebrgt; gt; struggles so much that I worry about getting him all stressed out. Hebrgt; gt; doesbrgt; gt; put up one heck of a struggle. His head is so strong and it movesbrgt; gt; sobrgt; gt; quickly.brgt; gt;brgt; gt; But I will keep trying. He was so ill in 03 that we did not think hebrgt; gt; wouldbrgt; gt; make it but we worked so hard on getting him so healthy and chubby.brgt; gt; butthisbrgt; gt; is so different with the food. I can easily give him his pills, butbrgt; gt; thisbrgt; gt; food stuff, what can I say, this is just tearing my heart up.brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Thank You for support.brgt; gt; Lisabrgt; gt;brgt; gt;brgt; gt;brgt; gt;brgt; gt; lt;BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT:brgt; gt; #A0C6E5brgt; gt; 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'gt;lt;fontbrgt; gt; style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'gt;lt;hrbrgt; gt; color=#A0C6E5brgt; gt; size=1gt;brgt; gt; From: lt;igt;amp;quot;Hideyo Yamamotoamp;quot;brgt; gt; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]amp;gt;lt;/igt;lt;brgt;Reply-To:brgt; gt; lt;igt;felvtalk@felineleukemia.orglt;/igt;lt;brgt;To:brgt; gt; lt;igt;lt;felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgamp;gt;lt;/igt;lt;brgt;Subject: lt;igt;RE: Won'tbrgt; gt; EatPlease Helplt;/igt;lt;brgt;Date: lt;igt;Tue, 30 Aug 2005 17:20:06brgt; gt; -0600lt;/igt;lt;brgt;amp;gt;Lisa, I can emphasize your pain - my Felv positive,brgt; gt; Gingerbrgt; gt; stoppedlt;brgt;amp;gt;eating for over a week a several monthsbrgt; gt; ago.lt;brgt;amp;gt;lt;brgt;amp;gt;She is already a very small girl, and did not wantbrgt; gt; herbrgt; gt; to lose any morelt;brgt;amp;gt;weight - so as Nina mentioned, I assistedbrgt; gt; her tobrgt; gt; eatbrgt; gt; with syringe everylt;brgt;amp;gt;day with baby food and liver shakebrgt; gt; -lt;brgt;amp;gt;lt;brgt;amp;gt;I will be praying that your kitty will bounce backbrgt; gt; verybrgt; gt; soon - so staylt;brgt;amp;gt;calm (I know it's hard, but do your best) andbrgt; gt; talktobrgt; gt; him gently andlt;brgt;amp;gt;tell him how much he means to you and how he isbrgt; gt; goingbrgt; gt; to get better verylt;brgt;amp;gt;very soon..lt;brgt;amp;gt;lt;brgt;amp;gt;Love and hugs tobrgt; gt; youbrgt; gt; and your
Won't Eat....Please Help
Hi everyone, Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty? He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were a breath away from having to put him to sleep. We wanted to try and give him a chance, even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist that was treating kitty's eyes were against it. He was on Prednisone 5mg a day for about 6 months, he began looking and acting healthier. then his meds were changed to half a pill each day, and then finally a half a pill every other day. August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubby cat. ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week. Then over this weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned) and he is not eating a thing. I have tried everything, even his favorite snack, and no way. We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who has worked with us is on holiday. What a mess. The one that we saw was a bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem, it took three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I was going to do to her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her about the prednisone. She said she did not want to put him back on the prednisone at this time and on and on and on. I told her our Dr. made it quite clear to us,( it was down on his chart also ) that if we saw that he was sliding to get him back on the Prednisone. It was like talking to the wall. She gave me an anti-biotic for ten days for him and that was it. Today I called and got one of the other vets who pulled Kitty's chart and gave me a prescription for the prednisone. I will be starting it later. Tomorrow we will be taking him to his Ophthalmologist and hopefully she will be able to get his eyes back under control. Please God. I am quite sure at this time he is only seeing shadows, and is so frightened from every noise. I can't get him to eat. I know how important this is on a chubby cat, and how quickly they can get... Hepatic Lipidosis and it may be fatal with his immune system.. A few moments ago I put a little food on my finger and had to force his little mouth open and I put it on the back of his tongue. He did swallow it, and is now sleeping. Would anyone know of any other way of doing it. Sorry about this winded letter, it has been a long and heartbreaking 5 days. Thank you for taking the time to read it. Lisa.
Hi Nina...
Thank you for getting in touch with me so soon. You are right I have such a feeling of panic mixed with such heartbreak. Don't seem to be able to stop filling up with tears. I have had many cats in my time and loved everyone of them, but this little boy (he is now 5yrs old) came into my life unexpectedly at 7 months old. None of my cats have been as loving and as needy as this one. I should have changed his name to Velcro. Where I go he is always right beside me, and the love he gives me is so noticeable to all who visit. I have so much love for him, he truly gives me such joy. assisted feeding. Like you would a baby. Love this way to think of it, will start it tonight. Thank You for the link. Well Nina, I have just tried to feed him Syring and all. I got some strained baby food (chicken) and filled up the syringe, oh my goodness I bungled it up so bad. I checked out all the pictures in the link you sent me, I went in at the side of the mouth, he was struggling so bad, my hubby held him in kind of a baby position with his little head inside hubby's elbow, I was trying to hold his head, got a few drops in then don't ask me what happened I accidentley pushed down on the syring and it all shot into his mouth. He choked and my hubby put him down the he ran into the room. Talk about trying to keep stress level down with a FELV baby, I think I have given him more stress today than he has had in the past year. I'm such an emotioal wreck at the moment. Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one scares him, or puts him through any more trauma than absolutely necessary MaMa is the one putting him through the trauma and it's hurting so bad. I will let you know what the Ophthalmologist has to say tomorrow night. Thank you Nina for being so kind. Lisa.
Hi Maimaipg
I have Rescue Remedy, I just bought it the other day, would this work? I was thinking of spraying his carry case with it tomorrow, but it has quite a floral odour I wondered if it would annoy him. See if you can find some Feliway spray--not the plug in--and spray it around where he is and on yourself. It will help calm him. You also might try catnip (organic or a plant if you can find it). I have used both with frightened, angry, upset cats successfully. - Original Message -
Hi Belinda......
Thank you Belinda, I will keep trying, made such a mess out of it with the syring tonight. Put it in the side of his mouth then accidenally applied to much pressure and he choked, it was awful I am giving him so mush stress, it's so heartbreaking. BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1 From: iBelinda Sauro lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/ibrReply-To: ifelvtalk@felineleukemia.org/ibrTo: ifelvtalk@felineleukemia.org/ibrSubject: iRe: Won't EatPlease Help/ibrDate: iTue, 30 Aug 2005 18:11:16 -0700/ibrgt; keep putting it on your finger or syringing it, he may get his brgt;desire to eat back once he gets some food into him and starts brgt;feeling better. you are right overweight kitties are more brgt;suseptable to getting HL and a lot faster than a normal weight cat brgt;might. Getting food into him right away is a priority. If you have brgt;to syringe feed. give small amounts in the side of the mouth, give brgt;him a minute to swallow then give more. You can try offereing food brgt;after he has had a bit, it may kick start his desire to eat.brgt;brgt;--brgt;Belindabrgt;Happiness is being owned by cats ...brgt;brgt;Be-Mi-Kitties ...brgt;http://www.bemikitties.combrgt;brgt;Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittensbrgt;http://adopt.bemikitties.combrgt;brgt;FeLV Candle Light Servicebrgt;http://www.bemikitties.com/clsbrgt;brgt;HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting amp; web design)brgt;http://HostDesign4U.combrgt;brgt;---brgt;brgt;BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)brgt;http://bmk.bemikitties.combrgt;brgt;br/font/BLOCKQUOTE
Re: Hi Belinda......
Well this was my second time trying, we warmed up the food and I decide to use my finger, It was so awful, we spoke our usual baby talk and I also warmed up the food a little, you would think we were trying to poison him, he reacted so badly. His stress level must be going through the roof by now. Hubby tried also only this time I held him, but as soon as he tried to open his mouth a little he started to gag. Oh I wish he could understand that we are trying to help him. This is just breaking my heart. Lisa. BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1 From: iBelinda Sauro lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/ibrReply-To: ifelvtalk@felineleukemia.org/ibrTo: ifelvtalk@felineleukemia.org/ibrSubject: iRe: Hi Belinda../ibrDate: iTue, 30 Aug 2005 19:44:15 -0700/ibrgt; Syringe feeding can be stressful, Buddie my cat hated it, I brgt;ended up getting her a feeding tube and she did great with that. brgt;The main thing with syringe feeding is get relaxed and calm, talk to brgt;your kitty and explain you are trying to help get him feeling brgt;better, that witout food he will feel worse and worse. The pick a brgt;place that is comfortable and use it all the time, that way kitty brgt;will know that is what is going to happen when you pick him up and brgt;go there.brgt;brgt;If possible a try the couch and try sitting so that kitty is brgt;positioned with his back end backed into the corner of the arm, you brgt;on one side kitty in the middle and the couch arm on the other side. brgt; Then pet and calmly talk to him and let him know what you are brgt;going to do, and then calmly put the syringe in the side of his brgt;mouth and give a small amount of food, wait a half minute or so and brgt;give more. If syringing is really stressful, putting the food on brgt;your finger and offering that way is fine, it may take alittle brgt;longer but if it works go with that. Or I know someone that put the brgt;food on a spoon and actually spoon fed their cat.brgt;brgt;Before Buddie got sick enough for the tube she had quite eating one brgt;other time and I would put some food in a bowl and would hold the brgt;bowl in front of her, I told her if she didn't eat on her own I brgt;would have to syringe feed her, she would take a few bites and I brgt;would offer her food every 15 minutes, it took me almost 3 weeks to brgt;get her eating normal again. Later when se got very sick with a brgt;sepsis infection I had to get the tube, it saved her life and she brgt;really loved getting fed that way, she would run to the couch and brgt;wait for me when she heard me getting her tube syringes ready. She brgt;purred through the whole feeding then promply plopped over and took brgt;a nap, she wasn't happy when I was weaning her off the tube.brgt;brgt;The main thing is stay calm and you may try warming the food up, brgt;some kitties can smell it better when it is warmed and will eat it brgt;then. Prayers that things will go much better next time you try.brgt;brgt;--brgt;Belindabrgt;Happiness is being owned by cats ...brgt;brgt;Be-Mi-Kitties ...brgt;http://www.bemikitties.combrgt;brgt;Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittensbrgt;http://adopt.bemikitties.combrgt;brgt;FeLV Candle Light Servicebrgt;http://www.bemikitties.com/clsbrgt;brgt;HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting amp; web design)brgt;http://HostDesign4U.combrgt;brgt;---brgt;brgt;BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)brgt;http://bmk.bemikitties.combrgt;brgt;br/font/BLOCKQUOTE
Hideyo
Thank you for your kind words, I will keep trying. It just that he struggles so much that I worry about getting him all stressed out. He does put up one heck of a struggle. His head is so strong and it moves so quickly. But I will keep trying. He was so ill in 03 that we did not think he would make it but we worked so hard on getting him so healthy and chubby. but this is so different with the food. I can easily give him his pills, but this food stuff, what can I say, this is just tearing my heart up. Thank You for support. Lisa BLOCKQUOTE style='PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #A0C6E5 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px'font style='FONT-SIZE:11px;FONT-FAMILY:tahoma,sans-serif'hr color=#A0C6E5 size=1 From: iquot;Hideyo Yamamotoquot; lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/ibrReply-To: ifelvtalk@felineleukemia.org/ibrTo: ilt;felvtalk@felineleukemia.orggt;/ibrSubject: iRE: Won't EatPlease Help/ibrDate: iTue, 30 Aug 2005 17:20:06 -0600/ibrgt;Lisa, I can emphasize your pain - my Felv positive, Ginger stoppedbrgt;eating for over a week a several months ago.brgt;brgt;She is already a very small girl, and did not want her to lose any morebrgt;weight - so as Nina mentioned, I assisted her to eat with syringe everybrgt;day with baby food and liver shake -brgt;brgt;I will be praying that your kitty will bounce back very soon - so staybrgt;calm (I know it's hard, but do your best) and talk to him gently andbrgt;tell him how much he means to you and how he is going to get better verybrgt;very soon..brgt;brgt;Love and hugs to you and your kitty..brgt;brgt;Hideyobrgt;brgt;-Original Message-brgt;From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]brgt;[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ninabrgt;Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 3:55 PMbrgt;To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgbrgt;Subject: Re: Won't EatPlease Helpbrgt;brgt;Hi Lisa,brgt;I can hear the panic in your voice and how very much you love yourbrgt;Kitty. You are right, you need to get him to eat. It is wonderfulbrgt;that he has been so healthy and has a few extra pounds to help himbrgt;maintain right now. He is in danger of HL if he goes without eatingbrgt;anything in a 24 to 48 hour period. That means if you get somethingbrgt;down him, he'll probably be okay. I know the sound of quot;syringebrgt;feedingquot; can be intimidating. Don't think of it as quot;forcequot; feeding,brgt;think of it as quot;assistedquot; feeding. Like you would a baby. There is abrgt;group for help with this, here's the link:brgt;http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/brgt;brgt;Poor thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble likebrgt;that. Not to mention the vet trip from Hell. All he's going to wantbrgt;to do is hide. Please try to calm yourself. Put on some soft music andbrgt;brgt;keep the room he's in dark. If he wants to hide, go ahead and let him,brgt;(after you get his meds and some food in him of course). Speak softlybrgt;to him and tell him how the two of you will see this through together.brgt;Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one scares him, orbrgt;puts him through any more trauma than absolutely necessary. (I'd likebrgt;to punch your substitute vet in the neck btw).brgt;brgt;Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let us know how you guys arebrgt;doing,brgt;Ninabrgt;brgt;brgt;Elizabeth Paz wrote:brgt;brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Hi everyone,brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?brgt; gt;brgt; gt; He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were abrgt; gt; breath away from having to put him to sleep. We wanted to try andbrgt; gt; give him a chance, even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist thatbrgt; gt; was treating kitty's eyes were against it. He was on Prednisone 5mg abrgt;brgt; gt; day for about 6 months, he began looking and acting healthier. thenbrgt; gt; his meds were changed to half a pill each day, and then finally a halfbrgt;brgt; gt; a pill every other day.brgt; gt;brgt; gt; August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubbybrgt;brgt; gt; cat. ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week. Thenbrgt; gt; over this weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned) and he isbrgt; gt; not eating a thing. I have tried everything, even his favorite snack,brgt;brgt; gt; and no way.brgt; gt;brgt; gt; We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who hasbrgt;brgt; gt; worked with us is on holiday. What a mess. The one that we saw was abrgt;brgt; gt; bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem,brgt; gt; it took three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I wasbrgt; gt; going to do to her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her aboutbrgt; gt; the prednisone. She said she did not want to put him back on thebrgt; gt; prednisone at this time and on and on and on. I told her our Dr. madebrgt;brgt; gt
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I'm hoping it will go well tomorrow also. If only I could get a little food into him. I can't believe this has all went down when my Vet is away. He will be back in 7 days and at the moment it feels like a life time. He is such a wonderful man, how he can work with an associate who is such a fruit cake I will never know. I feel that he is worst off today because of the mess she created in his little neck, with all the poking, boy would I like to take some blood from her with a nice blunt needle. Thank You for your prayers, at this point he needs them. I will let you know what happens tomorrow night, our appointment is at 6:00pm Lisa. divI hope Kitty's pred. is kicking in and the visit goes well with the optho. tomorrow. I HATE it when my vet's not available. My vet can always draw blood without the cat or myself ever even noticing she's doing it! That's why I love her even when she pisses me off about other stuff. It totally pisses me off when a vet or tech screws up a draw on a sick cat especially. You and Kitty are in my thoughts and prayers./div divtonyabrbrbimaimaipg lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt;/i/b wrote:/div blockquote class=replbq style=padding-left:5px;margin-left:5px;border-left:#1010ff 2px solidSee if you can find some Feliway spray--not the plug in--and spray it aroundbrwhere he is and on yourself. It will help calm him. You also might trybrcatnip (organic or a plant if you can find it). I have used both withbrfrightened, angry, upset cats successfully.br- Original Message - brFrom: quot;Ninaquot; brTo: brSent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:55 PMbrSubject: Re: Won't EatPlease Helpbrbrbrgt; Hi Lisa,brgt; I can hear the panic in your voice and how very much you love yourbrgt; Kitty. You are right, you need to get him to eat. It is wonderfulbrgt; that he has been so healthy and has a few extra pounds to help himbrgt; maintain right now. He is in danger of HL if he goes without eatingbrgt; anything in a 24 to 48 hour period. That means if you get somethingbrgt; down him, he'll probably be okay. I know the sound of quot;syringebrgt; feedingquot; can be intimidating. Don't think of it as quot;forcequot; feeding,brgt; think of it as quot;assistedquot; feeding. Like you would a baby. There is abrgt; group for help with this, here's the link:brgt; http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/brgt;brgt; Poor thing must be so panicky with his eyes giving him trouble likebrgt; that. Not to mention the vet trip from Hell. All he's going to wantbrgt; to do is hide. Please try to calm yourself. Put on some soft music andbrgt; keep the room he's in dark. If he wants to hide, go ahead and let him,brgt; (after you get his meds and some food in him of course). Speak softlybrgt; to him and tell him how the two of you will see this through together.brgt; Tell him you will do your very best to make sure no one scares him, orbrgt; puts him through any more trauma than absolutely necessary. (I'd likebrgt; to punch your substitute vet in the neck btw).brgt;brgt; Prayers that Kitty rebounds soon, please let us know how you guys arebrdoing,brgt; Ninabrgt;brgt;brgt; Elizabeth Paz wrote:brgt;brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Hi everyone,brgt; gt;brgt; gt; Has anyone got any ideas on how to get some food into my kitty?brgt; gt;brgt; gt; He has had FELV since 03. He was a very sick kitty and we were abrgt; gt; breath away from having to put him to sleep. We wanted to try andbrgt; gt; give him a chance, even though our Vet and the Ophthalmologist thatbrgt; gt; was treating kitty's eyes were against it. He was on Prednisone 5mg abrgt; gt; day for about 6 months, he began looking and acting healthier. thenbrgt; gt; his meds were changed to half a pill each day, and then finally a halfbrgt; gt; a pill every other day.brgt; gt;brgt; gt; August of 04 he was taken off of all meds, and became a healthy chubbybrgt; gt; cat. ( 16 lbs) He has been wonderful till Friday of last week. Thenbrgt; gt; over this weekend his eyes clouded over (Uveitis returned) and he isbrgt; gt; not eating a thing. I have tried everything, even his favorite snack,brgt; gt; and no way.brgt; gt;brgt; gt; We went to the Vet yesterday (Monday), and guess what, the Dr. who hasbrgt; gt; worked with us is on holiday. What a mess. The one that we saw was abrgt; gt; bit of a fruit cake. She tried to draw blood and had such a problem,brgt; gt; it took three tries with kitty crying, can't even tell you what I wasbrgt; gt; going to do to her if hubby had not stepped in. I spoke to her aboutbrgt; gt; the prednisone. She said she did not want to put him back on thebrgt; gt; prednisone at this time and on and on and on. I told her our Dr. madebrgt; gt; it quite clear to us,( it was down on his chart also ) that if we sawbrgt; gt; that he was sliding to get him back on the Prednisone. It was likebrgt; gt; talking to the wall. She gave me an anti-biotic for ten days for himbrgt; gt
