Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
***Sorry about my lengthy email*** Hello MaryChristine sorry about my late response :-) I don't know how to read the blood test results, but here is what I have... What's on the left of arrow is the results of first blood test taken on 1/9/2009, and what's on the right of arrow is the resulst of second test taken on 3/28/2009. I didn't know which values indicate what, so I wrote down the items indicating abnormal values (High Low) from the first blood test results... AST (SGOT) 121 (H) - 32 ALT (SGPT) 145 (H) - 52 Cholesterol Total 235 (H) - 304 (still High) Phosphorous 3.0 (L) - 4.1 (still Low) CA/PHOS Ratio 2.7 (H) - 2.2 Total Protein 15.8 (H) - 7.6 Albumin 5.2 (H) - 3.2 Globulin 10.6 (H) - 4.4 LDH 1141 (H) - 434 RBC 3.2 (L) - 7.4 HGB 5.2 (L) - 11.1 HCT 18 (L) - 39 MCV 58 (H) - 53 MCHC 28.2 (L) - 29.1 Lymphs 17 (L) - 62 (H) Lymph/Absolute 935 (L) - 2728 Platelet Count 58 (L) - 253 FELV (ELISA) Positive - Negative 1/9/2009 - I took my cat, Puma to the vet for bladder infection (I thought that was the only problem then). Since it was the first time, the vet did the blood test. Looking at the test results, he told me that Puma was FeLV+ and had severe anemia. (I don't know what kind...) The vet gave Puma LCTI on 1/31, 2/7, 2/14 (once a week for 3 weeks) 2/28, 3/14 (every other week). On 3/28 which is two weeks after his 5th shots, the vet did the 2nd blood test which you can see the results above. Looking at the 2nd test results, the vet told me that Puma no longer has anemia; however, I asked the vet to continue the LCTI treatment. The vet gave Puma LCTI on 4/11, 5/9, 6/6, and 7/4 (Once a month). I'm planning to ask the vet to do another blood test on 9/5 which will be two month from the last treatment. Only other thing that I did was to make sure that Puma gets nutritious food. When the treatment started, I switched from dry food (Nutro Natural Choice Complete Care) to can food (Natural Balance Ultra Formula) (I'm back to dry food (Wellness) now though) I also gave him Hi-Vite drop daily (and I still do...) Let me know if I missed anything that you asked. Hiromi :-) From: twelvehousec...@gmail.com Date: Wed, 5 Aug 2009 13:08:36 -0400 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update hiromi, i'd be very interested in learning about the blood values your cat showed, what kind of anemia it had, what other things you tried, how long it was on the lcti, etc. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=PID23384::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:NF_BR_sync:082009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update
Hello Amy :-) All I know is that Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator by Imulan worked very well for my FeLV+ cat w/ severe anemia... http://www.imulan.com/ Hiromi :-D Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:38:44 -0700 From: awilkin...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Wolfie Update So I've been posting about my cat Wolfie who has been losing weight since about mid 2006, from 15.4 lbs down to 10.8 lbs today. His last visit was on July 2nd and he had a HCT of 29. He also tested positive for Mycoplasma haemominutum previously called Haemobartonella felis small form. He's been on doxy, pred, and Pet-Tinic twice daily for almost a month. My vet thought he looked great today and he hasn't lost any weight since his last visit but he's not gaining and his HCT is still going down. We took a tiny amount of blood and sent it out for a reticulocyte count. I've lost almost all my leuk positives to anemia in the end (except for one to lymphoma and one to neurological issues) and I'm really bummed out by the news. I was hoping treating the Hemobart would help the HCT even though my vet wasn't as optimistic. I'm just wondering how most people here lose their leuk positives. It seems all of mine do so well, are completely asymptomatic and then out of nowhere they stop making red blood cells, the HCT starts to drop, and it is downhill from there. My vet wrote me a 10 page letter on everything that could cause weight loss and anemia and we have eliminated almost all the possibilities I think. We haven't done a digestive panel yet because it takes 4 mls of blood and I don't want to do that with his HCT dropping. If the reticulocyte test comes back and shows he is making red blood cells, we will start investigating digestive issues or anything else that could be causing his lower HCT. If it comes back as nonregenerative anemia, is there anything I can do? I know there is the option of Epogen and I'm looking into that. Anything else or do I just spend time with him and wait? I hate this point where they are feeling fine, looking fine, and I know it's only a matter of time :( This guy has been with me longer than any of my other positives and I'd do anything to help him but I'm afraid there's nothing else I can do. Thoughts? Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Get your vacation photos on your phone! http://windowsliveformobile.com/en-us/photos/default.aspx?OCID=0809TL-HM ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away
Hello Giselle, I took Puma (4 or 5-year old male FeLV+) to a vet for blood test one day. Then, a several days later, he stopped eating. He didn't eat for a couple days. His ears and gums looked pale. He was breathing laboriously. My vet gave him fluid and B12 shot. Next day, he started to eat, and everything was back to normal. In my case, I believe that withdrawing the blood caused Puma to become sick (He has severe anemia), so it may be a little different from Pixie's case, but I would think that at least giving fluid would ease Pixie's current condition. Hiromi From: gisell...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 13 May 2009 21:02:52 + Subject: [Felvtalk] Pixie didn't eat during the five days I was away Hi everyone, Pixie is my best buddy and constant companion as I work from home. She's a 4-year old female FeLV+. Last Thursday I went away for 5 days, leaving her home alone with a neighbor coming over for at least an hour each day to keep her company, feed wet food, brush, clean litterbox, etc. I returned from my trip yesterday and immediately knew something was wrong -- Pixie didn't come greet me and her dry food and water bowls were almost totally full (how I left them before leaving on Thursday). The neighbor said Pixie didn't eat her wet food either. She is now much skinnier around the midsection/haunches and clearly weak. Straight away I syringe-fed her a wet food water slurry before rushing over to the vet where the vet on duty found Pixie had lost over 1 lb (since she was last weighed in 2007) and said her gums and eyes looked pale. The vet suggested Pixie might have nonregenerative anemia linked to bone marrow failure. She had some blood drawn, got weighed and had temperature taken but that's it. I'm waiting to hear the blood work results tomorrow. Vet didn't even recommend how to deal with the weight loss and probable dehydration. Didn't suggest x-rays either. This woman basically shrugged when I asked about courses of treatment (like, why bother?) for a FeLV cat who might have anemia. Bottom line: I'm terrified about Pixie and don't know what to do to help her recover. She's my second cat ever, and first cat I've been primary caregiver to. I feel guilty about going away at all last week, but she had been OK on previous occasions when I travelled. I've been syringe-feeding her slurries every 2 hours all day but she doesn't seem to be regaining strength and she's breathing faster than normal and I catch her staring blankly. Any advice from you guys is much appreciated. Thanks, Giselle _ Hotmail® has ever-growing storage! Don’t worry about storage limits. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/Storage?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_Storage1_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd1_052009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin
I brought my cat (Puma) to a new vet for his bladder infection in Jan 2009. I was then told that 1. Puma is FeLV+ 2. Puma has severe anemia 3. Puma's kidney/Liver are failing (The vet said that based on Puma's blood test results) I put Puma on the LTCI treatment, and he finished 6th shots so far. The vet did another blood test 2weeks after his 6th shots, and the vet told me that 1. Puma is FeLV- this time (it's ELISA, so we will test him again) 2. Puma doesn't have anemia any more 3. All the values for the blood test came back as normal I don't quite believe that this treatment cures FeLV...my stance is that if it works, great! if not, it's OK. But I'm very happy that it helped Puma's anemia - he is not suffering from it any more! I'm planning on 3 more monthly shots for Puma as maintenance/follow-up (?). Hope this helps. Hiromi From: gcru...@centurytel.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 16:55:01 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Immulin I believe you are talking about a product called LTCI that is made by a company called Imulan their website is http://imulan.com The product is not related to IR. Some people have had very good success with LTCI and some have not. I don't believe there is any information about its effectiveness when used on asymptomatic cats and I would find it far too expensive to use as a simple immune booster. Assuming I had the money, I might give it a try for a symptomatic cat where you can tell if there is an improvement. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kerry MacKenzie Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Immulin Dear all, Does anyone have any experience in treating FeLV kitts with Immulin? My FelV foster's new forever mom just sent me the email extract below from her ex (who also adopts FeLV kitts). She is looking for any info on Immulin. I wonder if it's akin to Immuno Regulin, or even IR itself, re-packaged for cats (as opposed to dogs and horses)? I wonder about this guy being taken for a ride---even unintentionally--by his vet, as it sounds pricy. I've been trying to research on the web with no success. I've also been unable to dig up any more info on Immuno Regulin other than what I already read several years ago--mainly 2 articles by vets supporting use of IR by Dr Mike Lies, and Dr Karen Thomas, respectively. Immulin - appears to be a scientific breakthrough that I am excited about. Results have been incredible. Its a boost to the immune system that in many cases has helped them to beat their diseases. The only issue is cost. It is a very expensive and intensive program. I am also uncertain about the stress of making him go to the vet so often and taking the shots themselves. Doctor thinks pros outway cons by far, I am a little less convinced of that but still excited about the possibilities here. Any info on Immulin, or (more up to date) info on IR would be very welcome. Incidentally, one Google result showed an email from a guy that said Dr Karen Thomas' experiences were available on Jim's website. He may mean this website -- James's -- but I've never seen anything from a Dr Karen Thomas here?? Hugs to all and good health wishes to all your kitts, Kerry M. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Rediscover Hotmail®: Get quick friend updates right in your inbox. http://windowslive.com/RediscoverHotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Rediscover_Updates2_042009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator
Hello Sue :-) One of my cats, Puma was diagnosed as FeLV+ in January 2009, and he is currently on the medication. He is still on his 2nd month (shot every other week), so I don't know the long term effect of this medication yet, but after the 3rd shot in the first month, I noticed that he started to eat more and became more active. I wanted my vet to do the blood test after the 3rd shot, but my vet wanted to wait, so I don't know how much the medication is helping in actual numbers (red cell count, etc...) yet, but from what I observe so far, I'm hopeful...I mean...the medication may or may not cure FeLV, but at least it seems to be helping Puma's anemia (When I brought Puma to this vet for the first time in Jan. 2009, I was told that he has severe anemia and his liver kidney are failing because of FeLV) As for cost, I pay $85 for each visit. $60 for shot + $25 for administering the shot. Imulan's recommendation is to give the shot every week for the first month (but 4th one is optional), every other week for the second month, and every month after that. (upto 6th month) (So...1st month - 3 shots, 2nd month - 2 shots, 3rd/4th/5th/6th month - 1 shot = 9 shots) English is not my first language, so let me know if there is anything that is not clear - I will do my best to re-explain. I'm farely new to this group, but all of you has been helping Puma me a lot (especially emotionally), so whatever I could do to help others, I would love to!!! Hiromi Page Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:32:28 + From: fs...@roadrunner.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator Hello everyone, I am trying to decide if I should treat my positives with a procuct called Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator. I believe it is made by a company called Imulan and they claim to have had some success with it. I e-mailed my vet with the website and he seems to think they have not tested it enough to be certain of any results. I was just wondering if anyone on this list has heard of it or used it and what you think of it. This is a link the the website that has it. www.imulan.com/ Thank you, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
