Re: [Felvtalk] Does anyone have homemade cat food recipes to share?
Fish is not good for their bladder. No one knows the amount of mercury in it either. Sent from my iPhone > On Jan 9, 2016, at 6:26 PM, > wrote: > > I don't feed fish because my guys won't eat it. Maybe they know better than > I do. > > Sandy wrote: >> I heard Dr. Piersens is a good source - has books also. >> >> >> - Original Message - >> >> From: "Ardy Robertson" >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Sent: Saturday, January 9, 2016 1:37:18 PM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Does anyone have homemade cat food recipes to share? >> >> >> >> I may have to go online and see if I can purchase some of these suggested >> varieties because none of our nearby retailers have any of these. >> >> >> >> Thanks!! >> >> Ardy >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of >> gidge...@aol.com >> Sent: Friday, January 8, 2016 2:30 PM >> To: toomanykitti...@earthlink.net; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Does anyone have homemade cat food recipes to share? >> >> >> >> My two (Kit and Baby) are eating Holistic Select and at times Fancy Feast >> Classics Chicken or Turkey. Gee, if there are any homemade recipes >> >> >> that are good for them, I would love to hear about them. Holisitic Select >> is a no grain, no gluten food. As for the fish? No way would I feed any >> >> >> of mine fish or anything with fish in it. It's very bad on the bladder and, >> yes, will eventually cause debris and sediment, which leads to crystals >> >> >> and stones. >> >> >> >> >> >> Nancy & the gang. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message- >> From: Margo < toomanykitti...@earthlink.net > >> To: felvtalk < felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> Sent: Fri, Jan 8, 2016 3:21 pm >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Does anyone have homemade cat food recipes to share? >> >> >> Remember that baby food is NOT a "complete and balanced" diet. >> >> The only time I have ever had a cat voluntarily eat something I so lovingly >> prepared, was when I had a cat with IBD who could only tolerate raw. And I'm >> a GOOD cook >> >> I have hesitated to respond to this, because my practice is often frowned >> upon. I like to feed canned foods with no grain, no carbs and (gasp) >> by-products are allowed. I avoid fish for most of them, but only because I >> do think it may be a trigger for stone-formers. Of course, my two blockers >> are also my two FeLV+'s. So most of the time, I don't offer fish based >> foods. >> >> I also tried many of the gourmet, grain free, special, amazing (ly >> expensive) options that Chewy had to offer. I have now decided that feeding >> Fancy Feast Classic pates (they're currently eating beef or chicken) and/or >> Sheba pates (same flavors) is fine. Some would eat one kind, some another, >> but hundreds of $ worth of the "Good Stuff" went to the ferals and raccoons. >> I don't feed dry (the stone forming thing again) often. If you have only a >> few cats, I had pretty good luck with Hound and Gatos and Wild Calling carb >> free varieties. >> >> Good Luck :) >> >> Margo >> >> >> The only time I have ever had a cat voluntarily eat something I so lovingly >> prepared, was when I had a cat with IBD who could only tolerate raw. And I'm >> a GOOD cook >> >> I have hesitated to respond to this, because my practice is often frowned >> upon. I like to feed canned foods with no grain, no carbs and (gasp) >> by-products are allowed. I avoid fish for most of them, but only because I >> do think it may be a trigger for stone-formers. Of course, my two blockers >> are also my two FeLV+'s. So most of the time, I don't offer fish based >> foods. >> >> I also tried many of the gourmet, grain free, special, amazing (ly >> expensive) options that Chewy had to offer. I have now decided that feeding >> Fancy Feast Classic pates (they're currently eating beef or chicken) and/or >> Sheba pates (same flavors) is fine. Some would eat one kind, some another, >> but hundreds of $ worth of the "Good Stuff" went to the ferals and raccoons. >> I don't feed dry (the stone forming thing again) often. If you have only a >> few cats, I had pretty good luck with Hound and Gatos and Wild Calling carb >> free varieties. >> >> Good Luck :) >> >> Margo >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -Original Message-- >> --- >> From: gidge...@aol.com >> Sent: Jan 8, 2016 10:55 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Does anyone have homemade cat food recipes to share? >> >> If you use Gerbers, make sure you use stage 2 only. the small 2.5 oz jars >> because they are strictly meat and water with a tad of cornstarch in it. >> >> If you use Gerbers, make sure you use stage 2 only. the small 2.5 oz jars >> because they are strictly meat and water with a tad of cornstarch in it. >> >> >> >> >> No onions or garlic in these. The ones you wa
Re: [Felvtalk] Kit
Yes you have helped a ton! Thank you. I think question # 4 is should she be tested for hemobart even though she is not infested? I did put the Advantage II on a couple days ago. Oh and one more question- she has an appt on the 14th to be spayed. Should I cancell this? Also will ask vet on Saturday. Her lymph nodes are swollen. Thank you! Nancy Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 30, 2015, at 8:07 PM, Amani Oakley wrote: > > Hi Nancy > > I will answer the questions I can. > > 1. You can use Epogen or Darbeopoetin to increase red cell production > but I have no direct experience with either. However, first, I think that the > Winstrol acts on the precursor cells in the bone marrow that produce red > cells, white cells and platelets, and that is why all these cell lines > respond to the Winstrol – not just red cell production. Secondly, if the FeLV > has had its effect on the bone marrow, making it hypocellular. It is > theorized that the virus blocks the stem cells in the bone marrow and they > therefore cannot differentiate into the various cell components of blood > (white cells, red cells, platelets). If that has happened, then no amount of > erythropoietin-type derivatives will help since erythropoietin is produced in > the renal adrenal glands and the erythropoietin tells the bone marrow to > produce red cells but the bone marrow cannot because it has been left > depleted of the precursor cells that make the red cells. The problem with > erythropoietin mimics is also that the body stops producing its own > erythropoietin if it detects enough circulating in the system, so you may end > up causing a worse situation by actually depressing natural erythropoietin > production. You don’t get any of those problems with the WInstrol. > 2. No – Winstrol doesn’t cause the body to respond by producing > antibodies against the medication. > 3. Yes – the 1 mg tablets, 2 times a day, are for cats of all weights. > If it is a very small kitten, you could try 0.5 mg 2 times a day though I > never found it necessary to use such a low dose. If the cat is in really bad > shape and you need to “jump start” the process quickly (eg – severe anemia, > significantly reduced appetite, difficulty breathing because of the anemia), > I would start with 2 mg 2 times a day until you start getting a response, > either with improved appetite or lab results show an increase in red cell or > other cell line counts. > 4. I am not sure if there is a question here. > 5. I don’t think Winstrol causes itching – not in my experience in any > event. > 6. Definitely, if she has worms, they are a drain on her system and > certain worms drop red cell counts but I don’t think round worms do that (but > I haven’t checked into that recently). > 7. A slight temperature is okay for a while but it is the rest of the > stuff that comes with the temperature, like loss of appetite and lethargy, > which you have to watch for. > > I hope some of this helps. > > Amani > > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > gidge...@aol.com > Sent: November-30-15 7:18 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Kit > > Lance, a friend told me about this test. Hardy RL. She told me to have the > vet take it as it will tell what stage she is in. Takes about 10 days to get > results. Maybe it goes by another name? Ironically, the vet took it on her > own. I never had to ask for it. I have messaged my friend to find out more. > > Also, Lance, I wanted to let you know that I am the founder and Admin of > FELINE CHRONIC KIDNEY DISEASE (all caps) on Facebook. I have almost 1, 670 > members. I can certainly help out here with those whose cats have this > problem too. > > I have many questions. Hope you don't mind, as I am in learning stages. So > here I go: > > 1) I see Winstrol listed as the primary treatment for anemia. Can you also > use Epogen or Darbeopoetin? > > 2) Can one develop antibodies with Winstrol? I have heard of this med, > but don't know much about it > > 3) Also, I see you recommend 1 mg tablets. Is this for cats of all weights? > > 4) Kit has fleas. I put Advantage II for kittens on her yesterday.She seems > to be itching a bit more. Unless it's my paranoid self. I have heard alot > about the Hemobart test, but I don't think she is infested. Will have a good > look though. > > 5) Could FeLV cause itching? > > 6) She also has round worms, which I gave her a dewormer 2 days ago. Could > this bring blood work down? > > 7) Her temp is holding around 101.2 ~ 102.2. This is ok? She is no longer > on Onsior. > > I am doing alot of reading now and hope you don't mind all the questions, as > I'm sure I will have more > > > Thx, Lance. > > Nancy > > > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Lance > To: felvtalk > Sent: Mon, Nov 30, 20
