Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor
Even if you have indoor-only cats, they can get fleas. A vet once told me, If a squirrel runs through your yard, you can have a flea infestation in the house. True, dat. My college roommate and I had three indoor cats, and one summer they all became so infested we had to bomb the house... Twice. (Interesting side-note: a flea can't live/reproduce off human blood) I have 12 cats and use Revolution on them. I don't put it on all of them at once- I stagger it and put it on two this week, two next week, etc. That seems to keep the fleas at bay. I'd also like to address Natalie's vet- I used to work for a vet (and at an animal shelter) and have seen numerous cats go into seizures and die from Frontline and Advantage, but never Revolution. Doesn't mean that it doesn't happen, I've just never seen or heard of it (and I know a lot of Crazy Cat People! haha). -Original Message- From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 4:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Pet Armor I'm not quite sure what Advantage does - you could look up each product and see their specifications. I just sent some suggestions to group; some we have used and are using, and some that I am considering, although what we have right now really works well on all the cats and the doggie. Although our cats don't go outside, they use the outdoor enclosures, thereby possible being exposed to fleas. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
Same here- I put the baby food in a bowl, and then run the hot water into the empty jar- fill it up, then dump it in the bowl and mix it up. -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne I just let the hot water run until it is hot enough to warm up the food so it smells good and they come running. I only give each one about 1 teaspoon because they prefe the liquid to the actual meat. They will come back later and nibble at the meat, but the liquid dissappears real fast. On May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote: THANK YOU. we are not alone. really, really appreciate your ideas and presence yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken cornstarch). warmed a bit in microwave. not interested. this morning nosed it around and left. I keep picking her up and bringing her back or taking the dish to her. did eat Fancy Feast beef well this a.m. routinely had used microwaved sweet potatoes but not since all this came down. had thought about fish but haven't tried that since had read that shouldn't . soupy. makes much much sense. hair ball gel. thank you. forward together. thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day. they send you love. m ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re positives negatives
I had a cat with FELV that lived to be 17. I never separated him from my other cats, they ate out of the same bowls, etc., and none of them ever contracted the disease. The other ones were vaccinated against it. I've also had 2 other positives living with my negative cats (one lived to be 4, the other 8), and none of my other cats ever contracted it. My brother, too, had a positive cat that lived to be 17- and he, too, never separated his cats out. None of his other cats (vaccinated) ever contracted Feleuk. Just sayin'. -Original Message- From: Pam Norman [mailto:pam_nor...@charter.net] Sent: Friday, April 15, 2011 2:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re positives negatives I am trying to determine what to do with Poppy both now when the IFA test results come in. I've been reading reading from what I can gather, the old dictums about NEVER havinig positive negative cats even in the same house has been abandoned. From what I have read, the general sense is that it's fine for positives negatives to be in the same home, but should be separate so there is no chance of exchanging fluids such as with a bite, but more importantly with mutual grooming. But I know also that some of you have both positives negatives really living together, not separate. Right? What about if I put Poppy in her condo in the spare bedroom let me cats visit, so at least she SEES other cats. What is she hisses spits? Would that have a chance of infecting any of mine who were nosing around her condo? My feeling is that it would. Also how effective is the vaccine these days? I know that some years ago the figure was about 30% so I never had any of my cats vaccinated. Has it been improved? Right now we are still waiting for the IFA test for Poppy. And I guess she needs retesting on that in at least a month. I do NOT want to keep her alone until then. We have a sanctuary for her if she tests IFA positive cause then we know that she is really positive. But the person who runs it tells me that regardless of how she tests on the IFA, she HAS leukemia. Period. And would go in with the positive cats. But my understanding is that if she is IFA negative, she has a chance of fighting it off putting her in with the positives is giving up. I think she should only go in with the positives if she tests IFA positive. Can anyone help me sort this out? Pam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away..... :(
Oh no!!! I’m so sorry to hear that, Terrie L I’m sure that Taz and all the rest are taking good care of him… Keeping you in our prayers. From: ter...@tazzys.org [mailto:ter...@tazzys.org] Sent: Saturday, April 02, 2011 11:27 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Husband has passed away. :( Thank you all for your kind words and love in this difficult time for me. It is hard on me since we have been together for many years. He had a genuine love for animals and supported me in everything I did in rescue. My husband passed away 4:30 in the morning on Thursday. He died peacefully in his sleep. I know he is longer in pain and sick is healthy again. He will be greeted by others that have went to the Rainbow Bridge especially by my Taz as he loved him too. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws
Wow, what a bunch of D.A.s! Like my mama always said, Stupid people shouldn't breed. They should have found a GOOD home for the cats and euthanized themselves. -Original Message- From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat claws I UNDERSTAND WHAT SOME OF YOU ARE SAYING ABOUT OLD PEOPLE AND THEIR THIN SKINS NOT WANTING TO BE SCRTACHED, BUT WHY WOULD A CAT SCRATCH ANYONE, UNLESS ONE HAS A FERAL CAT THAT'S TERRIFIED WHEN CORNEREDIT'S LIKE PEOPLE DECLAWING THEIR CATS WHEN A BABY COMES ALONG. If the cat hasn't scratched them, why would it scratch the baby - besides, it's better to be scratched than bitten anytime! Years ago, neighbors adopted a baby and had their two 4-yr old cats declawed, worrying about scratches, although the cats never scratched them. When baby arrived, one of the cats bit the baby in the hand - seriously (never, ever having attempted to bite the neighbors). The baby didn't even provoke the cat - it was just lying on the floor. Both cats were euthanized the next day. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors
Dr. Nicholas Dodman wrote an awesome book about cat personalities and problems, including aggression towards housemates and people. It's called The Cat Who Cried For Help, and addresses situations like yours. -Original Message- From: Diane Rosenfeldt [mailto:drosenfe...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 6:46 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors My housemate and I were faced with such a decision 10 or 11 years ago, when we moved from our separate apartments to our formerly-two-flat house, and melded our cat families. She had two, an elderly lady named Kitty and a pugnacious orange boy named Tribble. I had 3 -- my laid-back Luc, my introverted fluffy tortie Phoebe, and my mom's black girly, Missy. Tribble had always deferred to Kitty when they lived together, and continued to do so, thank goodness. But as time went on and our cat population changed a little, Tribble showed quite a bit of aggression, and we had to take somebody or other to the vet to have bites treated at least twice. So we were in a real bind, since we are both cats-are-family-for-life people, and we did love Tribble with all his peculiarities. We knew nobody would adopt him anyway. We are both anti-declaw and had the raggedy furniture to prove it, but we decided that for the safety of the other cats we would have him declawed, feeling maybe he would lose some aggressiveness, and also that he might still be able to bite, but he wouldn't be able to dig in and hold on while he did so. We found the one place in town at the time that did the laser technique. We were worried about all the things mentioned -- the pain, the litter problems, the behavioral problems. But he really seemed not to mind, even during the first days. He was fine with the litterbox, and didn't develop any behavioral problems above and beyond the ones he had going in. He was still aggressive, but wasn't able to inflict nearly the damage, which was mission accomplished as far as we were concerned. The upside for him is that to this day he still tries to sharpen those claws on furniture, wicker etc., and he's the only one that doesn't get shooed away. I know we got lucky here, and that most cats suffer more, but if we had it to do again we'd still make the same decision under the same circumstances. It was either that or sentence Tribble to almost certain death. Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors
I guess the birds should have stayed dinosaurs, then... ;-) From: LauraM [mailto:hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com] Sent: Tue 3/22/2011 7:56 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Keep Cats Indoors Yes, the number one cause of bird extinction is habitat loss, but cats are #2. There's a well-known study that was conducted on a couple of adjacent beaches in California, one with a feral cat population and one without. The beach that is home to feral cats has no birds - remember that most shorebirds are ground nesters - while the cat-free beach supports a healthy bird population. Of course, our birds have natural predators - some raptors such as red-tailed hawks prey mostly on birds. Kingsnakes and rat snakes are known for feasting on eggs and hatchlings. But this is natural predation so things are kept in balance. Throw in a highly efficient predator such as a cat and the balance changes. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors
Shoot, why send it privately? Put it up here for all to see. Name and shame! From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] Sent: Wed 3/23/2011 5:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Keep Cats Indoors That's horrible, and many people do not realize what it entails and how many cats lose their lives - they think it's a manicure...but many vets are to blame. Several people told me that after adopting from us, they went to their own vet, and after telling them that the cats will be kept indoors only, the vets said Oh, you have an option to declaw! Banfield Health. The group at Petsmart, offers a big special for kitten health - all the vaccines, exams, and declawing for a very good price! I wrote to them about declawing; they wrote back with the most ridiculous comments. If anyone would like to see their reply, I'll send it privately. Last year, I was informed that they will no longer cut ears and tails on dogs, because it's purely cosmetic...I wrote to them, asking their policy on declawing since they have made that big leap on no longer mutilating dogs, they might have reconsidered doing it to cats...no reply from them. O always ask people what they would prefer, a few things scratched up or urine-soaked carpets and furniture.Besides, not all cats grow up to be scratchers...and providing good posts and trimming their nails works well. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] facebook or twitter?
I block most of mine. ;-) That way, I only get the ones I WANT to see. From: Beth [mailto:create_me_...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thu 3/17/2011 9:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] facebook or twitter? Personally I am already drowning in Facebook posts. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior?
My cat Bob shared the link on his Facebook profile, too... www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1651466497581set=a.1457687733233.205681 3.1564571765 -Original Message- From: dana giordano [mailto:giordano.d...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 7:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] anyone in PA area or anywhere take in a super lovey friendly FelV positive senior? Hi - the shelter near me in philadelphia has a very lovey kissing hugging 10-15 year old senior kitty who just is a total lovebug. His owner died. Can anyone take him in? He is on the very very sweet side and my bathroom doesn't seem like it's good enough for this little lovebug. As far as I know he's not IFA confirmed but if I take him in the interim, I will make sure he's confirmed. Even a foster would be appreciated - he's in the urgent list and I'm surprised they even gave him this long a chance. Let me know. Dana * * www.twitter.com/smallspark * Share something interesting today.* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport
Here's another one: http://operationroger.rescuegroups.org/ -Original Message- From: Kelley Saveika [mailto:moonv...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:59 PM To: felvtalk Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: Transport Hi there, Does anyone know anything about transport? I am trying to get these 2 FELV+ kitties to various far flung places (if anyone adopts them - no one has yet). I do not know the first thing about it. Often our adopters have limited funds and cannot afford to pay to transport, and time is of the essence when dealing with this shelter as they kill FELV+ cats first. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
Wow, where do you live?!? That is freaking high! -Original Message- From: Emeraldkittee [mailto:emeraldkit...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2011 7:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) I think so, but that's the norm around here. $105 total blood panel $225 IFA $225 Western Blot $34 urine test/cystocentsis $17 fecal $50 exam I think I just figured out why I don't get to Hawaii much ;) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt)
Wow, sounds like she has issues- what kind, who knows? See if your vet will give you an ace promazine (or something similar) to give the cat, so that you can get it in the carrier (provided the woman lets you take it anywhere!). Since he's stuck in a room, he can't really hide when the sedation starts to take effect. Poor kitty. He sounds absolutely miserable. :-( Alternatively, I can go to the house and steal the cat for you, if you like... (haha! Just kidding ;-)) -Original Message- From: Emeraldkittee [mailto:emeraldkit...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 9:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) An acquaintance in rescue put me in touch with a person whose dying relative has a supposed double positive- FeLV and FIV. She can't take him because of the amount of other pets the relative has and will add to her own bunch. We've had a few conversations. I have been told the following: the kitty hasn't seen a vet in 2 yrs, hasn't had a check up in over 4, has always been very thin, gets overstimulated, masturbates on his bed (I mention because to me it's behavioral/lonely/frustrated); has escaped from the room he's in and never attacks the other cats. The kitty is around 5 or 6 and has been in supposed perfect health. There's never been an IFA or Western Blot. I don't feel comfortable bringing a kitty in without some knowledge of their health - I offered to pay for a check up and IFA, and said we could certainly use their vet. She mentioned she no longer goes to that vet and didn't know 'who we could use' but knows some 'dr who can draw blood'. Today she said she doesn't want to make that dr mad (?) and wants her permission to do the IFA . I offered to send a home visit vet, but she 'doesn't know'. It's not a problem with this home, because I am invited there. When I offered to take the kitty to a vet myself she said he doesn't like carriers and might need a shot to be sedated. That wasn't mentioned the first few conversations. Stating the obvious, this is not making sense to me. I know this person is overwhelmed with alot of big life issues, and I can appreciate that. BUT. I am going to meet this kitty to see how I can help/what the situation is, but why would someone resist this chance for care, even if it doesn't lead to an adoption? She did agree it's possible he'd come up negative, but doesn't know about doing this. I did meet another kitty I know I want to adopt but these illogical conversations and this cat have been weighing on my mind and I feel I need to see what's going on. I got the impression there was a problem with the vet she originally used, like she can't go back. Most people this deep into rescue have a vet or two they know and useso, what is the real story? How can I best help... Thanks, I really appreciate any opinions or guidance from all your varied experience. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Jersey City NJ: FELV+ Gino needs a home
JerseyCats, a volunteer-run, foster-based rescue in Northern New Jersey is still looking for a home for Gino, a two year old FELV+ cat. Please read more about Gino on our home page: www.jerseycats.org or on petfinder: http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/17695711. Gino is gorgeous and lovable, and gets along with dogs! Because he is now a full fledged house cat and is asymptomatic (recent blood work was perfect) we are hoping to find a home rather than a sanctuary. Second Chance Meows in Nevada generously offered to take Gino, but the cost was just too prohibitive for our very new rescue, and in any case we felt the funds spent on transport would be better spend on medical care for Gino when he needs it. It would have also been a very long and stressful journey for Gino. And so we hope we may find someone on this list who is closer to us who will consider taking Gino into their home. We are happy to transport to locations within driving distance, and will continue to offer support to any adopter. Do you have room in your home and heart for this gorgeous boy? He will reward you with full throated purrs and endless head butts. Please contact me with any questions. many thanks, Beverly Parsons JerseyCats beverly(at)jerseycats.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along
There's a book by a Dr. Nicholas Dodman called The Cat Who Cried For Help that has a chapter on feline aggression- it may not be the absolute answer for Blizzard (or others), but it is informative and it may help... :-) http://www.randomhouse.com/catalog/display.pperl/9780553378542.html -Original Message- From: LauraM [mailto:hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com] Sent: Monday, December 20, 2010 12:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along Thank you, Dana, I will try this. I'm desperate and Blizzard is a good cat, I just can't understand why he is the way he is. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
Glad to hear it Alice! Thank you for taking the black kitty, too. I used to dream of having a house full of black cats, because I love them so much... Well, be careful what you ask for! The day before Easter I trapped a feral black kitty (under a year old), and of course it turned out to be female, and of course she turned out to be pregnant! And of COURSE (!!!) she had all black babies, and only one of them has been adopted so far. So along with the two black kitties I already had (not to mention the ones of other colors!), I now have 7 black kitties at my house. [pulls hair out] They are very sweet (even the mama has warmed up nicely), but at 6 months old, it's getting harder and harder to find them homes... :-( Beverly -Original Message- From: Lorrie [mailto:felineres...@kvinet.com] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats Thank you for adopting these kitties, Alice. I rescue cats and get a lot of feral kittens with eye infections. Miso was a lucky boy to find you. Your black kitty is very lucky too. I have a dreadful time finding homes for black cats and kittens, and I don't know why. We have 4 black cats and they are all so lovable. We have 14 cats at home now.. All colors sizes and shapes and we love them all, but there is something special about those black ones! Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
Hi Bonnie, I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only! I have five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small apartment and they are all best buds. They rumble and tumble and play, and curl up and sleep together when they get tired. I don't think any of them would do well as an only cat. Most of my friends and family also have multiple cats that are great friends. It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of a new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy relationship. Just my two cents. Beverly On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him home and said, Look Stormy -- I got you a friend! Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she ever quite forgave me... From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only. ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to me out of their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's queen and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend? Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't lonely. I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, they'd have to be together right away... so, is it a good idea? should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties? male or female? If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version? again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic. thank you!! Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend?
Yes, I do very much agree that boys are better at multi cat situations than girls are, from my experience at least. We're pretty lucky here. :-) On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Beverly Oh, how I long for a home like yours! I agree about the intro, and I've tried to do it right with everyone. The most recent one was Lucky, and he's doing well and seems accepted by all. But there are tensions, especially between Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan (she's a rehabilitated feral). I think boy cats are mellower, more accepting. I would love to see everyone curled up together on the couch or my bed, or playing together. Sigh. Thanks for another perspective! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Beverly Parsons beve...@jerseycats.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend? Hi Bonnie, I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only! I have five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small apartment and they are all best buds. They rumble and tumble and play, and curl up and sleep together when they get tired. I don't think any of them would do well as an only cat. Most of my friends and family also have multiple cats that are great friends. It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of a new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy relationship. Just my two cents. Beverly On Dec 15, 2010, at 9:27 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Shannon I have to tell you this story... I got my cat, Stormy, as a 12 week old kitten. She was indoors only. There was a yard cat but they only saw eachother through the window. About a year after getting Stormy, I decided to go back to school to finish my degree. I was already working full time, so this meant poor little Stormy would be alone much of the time. In a move that is the *only* time I've sought out a cat (they usually just come to me, as Stormy had) I went to the local shelter and adopted a kitten about 12 wks. old. I brought him home and said, Look Stormy -- I got you a friend! Hiss, spit, growl, fur on end, very unhappy cat. Oops. I don't think she ever quite forgave me... From this I came to the conclusion that humans are social and cats are solitary. That's undoubtedly not an absolute in either case, but generally speaking, I think most cats would prefer to be the only. ps -- Stormy now shares the house with three others, all came to me out of their need. She's a little pissy sometimes, but I let her know she's queen and let the others know they are to give her utmost respect (she's the elder puss) and she's adjusted very well. Good luck! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2010 5:28 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] how to know if your only needs a friend? Whimsy is adapting perfectly to being indoor only! (someone here said 'you control the door', and it was that simple. a few protests, an escape due to a foggy glass door, but overall very smooth transition) I'm watching him closely to make sure he isn't lonely. I did see him attack another feral who was taking 'his' yard, a few months after he was fixed. Obviously that doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't have a pal, but ... we don't really have anywhere to get him used to a new kitty, they'd have to be together right away... so, is it a good idea? should I open the blinds on the door that separates him from his siblings to see how he reacts to other kitties? male or female? If Whimsy has a stronger constitution, would another FeLV kitty potentially make him sicker with a more virulent version? again, Whimsy is a boy, about 2.5, asymptomatic. thank you!! Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
Sue, my brother and I both have had FELV+ cats that lived to be 17 -- and this was back in the day before the current treatments were available... -Original Message- From: Sander, Sue [mailto:sue.san...@ssa.gov] Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years. Does anyone else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life? If so, please tell me. I want to have hope. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] OT- Homeless cat in NYC needs shelter for winter/ permanent home!
I don't know how many of you are on Facebook, but a friend of mine shared this photo album of a homeless tortie and white kitty in NYC: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=584065id=527760102fbid=10150298712175103 http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=584065id=527760102fbid=10150298712175103 This is what the girl who posted it says: I see this girl every day when I'm walking. She's super friendly and always comes over to talk to me. Whoever is taking care of her has given her a box with some blankets in it and food and water, but when it rains the box is soggy and stays that way. With winter coming up, I'd like to find her a real home and I'm unable to take her. Can anyone in the NYC area help? I don't have a car, so transporting on my end might be difficult but I'll do whatever I can to help if someone else can help her. I live in South Cakkalakkie, so getting to NYC is a bit of a problem... (haha) I don't share any friends with the girl who posted the album (Sara Pegarella), but it is possible for anyone to send her a message. Thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jersey City NJ: Asymptomatic FELV+ Gino needs a home
Thanks, Michael. Perhaps we can talk off line. My email is beverly (at) jerseycats.org. On Nov 4, 2010, at 2:40 AM, Second Chance Meows wrote: i might be able to help, i run a for life FeLV sanctuary Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: beve...@jerseycats.org beve...@jerseycats.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 9:32:26 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Jersey City NJ: Asymptomatic FELV+ Gino needs a home JerseyCats, a volunteer-run, foster-based rescue in Northern New Jersey is looking for a home for Gino, a two-three year old asymptomatic FELV+ cat. Please read more about Gino on our home page: www.jerseycats.org or on petfinder: http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/17695711. Gino tested positive with ELISA and IFA on October 5 and will be getting his second IFA test on November 13. Gino is gorgeous and lovable, and gets along with dogs! Transport available to the right home, even out of state. Please contact me with any questions and please feel free to forward. many thanks, Beverly Parsons JerseyCats beverly(at)jerseycats.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Jersey City NJ: Asymptomatic FELV+ Gino needs a home
JerseyCats, a volunteer-run, foster-based rescue in Northern New Jersey is looking for a home for Gino, a two-three year old asymptomatic FELV+ cat. Please read more about Gino on our home page: www.jerseycats.org or on petfinder: http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/17695711. Gino tested positive with ELISA and IFA on October 5 and will be getting his second IFA test on November 13. Gino is gorgeous and lovable, and gets along with dogs! Transport available to the right home, even out of state. Please contact me with any questions and please feel free to forward. many thanks, Beverly Parsons JerseyCats beverly(at)jerseycats.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV
Anndrea- try some Stage One baby foods (beef, chicken, ham, etc.) that just have meat in them- I mix a 3 ounce jar with 3 ounces of hot tap water, mix it up well, and they will lap it up. And with the canned food, try mixing it with hot water also. Mash it up good, so that it's all liquid. She may just not feel like chewing. I feel like that sometimes :-) -Original Message- From: A D [mailto:unspecifie...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 2010 3:25 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Questions about FeLV Hi, my cat was the picture of health about two weeks ago. She’s 2 years old, female, spayed, orange tabby. She would literally bounce off the walls running around the house. She’s so wonderful ♥ Anyway, about two weeks ago, she started sleeping constantly, and one day (9/17) I noticed her nose, gums, and pads had turned white…instead of their normal pink. So I took her in and they took some blood…said that day that she is VERY anemic L Since that was a Friday, we got the results the following Monday. FeLV L She barely eats, almost never uses the litter box (and her urine is pretty dark when she does go), sleeps almost 24 hours a day, and has lost a bit of weight (not good when she only started at 7lbs in the first place L). I got her Pet-tinic vitamins cuz a vet suggested them. I tried to get her to drink kitten formula cuz I figured part of it’s job is to help kittens build up their immune systems. She was put on antibiotics the Monday that her tests came back. After 4-5 days, she began refusing the medicine. It’s a liquid and she would spit it all back out. So, she probably didn’t get all she was supposed to. When she does eat, it is usually just the liquid part of canned cat food. She is still able to jump off the bed and walk to the kitchen (where the dry food bowl and litter box are), but usually wears out on her way back out of the kitchen, and lays down. She is so skinny…I’m not even sure she has much muscle left. She has always been skinny, but not like this. Well, a few days ago, her white pads and nose started turning yellow. I know that has something to do with her liver not working right. Oh yeah…the way the vet put her anemia…normal range is 29%-45% (or something like that), and my kitty’s came back at 16% L Does anyone have any advice as to what we could do to help her? How will we know if she has pain? The vet that gave us the results (a substitute cuz regular vet was out for the week) said if she makes it the next couple months, and seems any better, to get her re-tested. That some cats fight it off and can test negative a couple months later. So, that means SOME cats get over this. And I read online that some cats live for a few years with it, after showing symptoms. Just gives me a little hope…then I look at her…and she looks so bad…and I think there isn’t much hope. So hard to watch. At what point do you give up and have an FeLV+ cat put to sleep? I figured if she shows signs of being in pain (once I know what those are), or has a seizure, or absolutely stops eating and drinking anything, that it would be time. I don’t want her to suffer, but I also want to give her every chance to survive…ya know? Anyway, thanks for letting me go on and on…as you can tell this is really very hard on me emotionally, as I’m sure it is on anyone and everyone who has to deal with it. ~Anndrea ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: OdoBan
Thanks, y'all! -Original Message- From: Cougar Clan [mailto:maima...@duo-county.com] Sent: Friday, September 24, 2010 4:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: OdoBan I use it on oak and pine floors and have had no problem. On Sep 24, 2010, at 12:15 PM, POTT, BEVERLY wrote: Is it ok for hardwood floors? -Original Message- From: Cougar Clan [mailto:maima...@duo-county.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: OdoBan There is a milky gallon bottle at Sams that is a concentrate for about $10. There is a spray bottle (not concentrate) at some WalMarts. I am sure the other is fine but probably over priced. On Sep 23, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Natalie wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: OdoBan
Is it ok for hardwood floors? -Original Message- From: Cougar Clan [mailto:maima...@duo-county.com] Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2010 9:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: OdoBan There is a milky gallon bottle at Sams that is a concentrate for about $10. There is a spray bottle (not concentrate) at some WalMarts. I am sure the other is fine but probably over priced. On Sep 23, 2010, at 7:56 PM, Natalie wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend
Laura, give me her contact information and I'll tell her what you couldn't. I have a vocabulary that would make a sailor blush! From: LauraM [mailto:hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com] Sent: Sat 9/4/2010 8:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] No way to treat a friend OK, this doesn't have anything to do with FeLV, so I apologize.but a few incidents happened at the shelter today that really made me angry, and really made me sick of the way animals are treated in our society - as disposable property, with no feelings, no thoughts, no value. An inconvenience, to be tossed aside when necessary. First, a woman called and said that there was a cat lying in her carport that must have been hit by a car. She said, We're afraid she's going to die there, and she can't seem to move her back legs. Stray, injured catI called our animal control officer and she headed on out to pick the cat up. Turns out, it was the woman's cat, and not a stray, she even saw the cat get hit! - same old story, the owner doesn't want to deal with the problem, doesn't want a vet bill, so she calls the county to handle it, forgets about it and goes about her day. My officer told her, This is your responsibility, not mine - you get that cat to a vet. Later on, the caller once again rang up animal control: If I have a cat that's been hit by a car, can I bring her to you? NO, lady, what don't you understand - this is your animal, she is your responsibility, TAKE HER TO THE VET. Then, later, the door opened and a young woman came in with a cat in a crate. He has serious health problems; he's old and has some sort of issues with his teeth, he's in a lot of pain and needs steroid injections and some other stuff. I remember speaking with her two months ago about the cat, gave her some phone numbers of vets who might be willing to work with her on the cost of treatment. Anyway, she wanted to drop him off so we could euthanize him on Tuesday. I tried to get her to take the cat to her own vet, tried to get her to understand that it would be inhumane and cruel to leave him in a place with strangers, to sit in a cold metal cage, to die on a table and be tossed in a black trash bag and thrown into the dump like garbage. Naturally, she had no money - but if you're a good client, chances are your vet will euthanize for free or next to nothing; my vet has never charged me to euthanize an animal. And she had months to prepare for this, but she's moving in with her parents tomorrow and they're allergic, and of course, like the other person, she didn't want to deal with it. Finally she said to me, I'm leaving. I don't like your attitude. Bitch. I wanted so badly to follow her out the door, slap her face tell her what I thought of her, but I need my job. I know I'm preaching to the choir here, but still, it appears that this attitude has become more and more prevalent. Those of you who work in shelters or who are involved with rescue know exactly what I'm talking about. Someone will always be there to pick up the pieces and clean up after your mistakes, so why even try to do the responsible thing? One resident surrendered 4 kittens last week and called today to ask if they'd been adopted. They had all gone out to a rescue. After hollering, Praise Jesus! They're safe! she asked me, So, the next time I have kittens, should I call this rescue directly or do I have to go through you? Aaaargh! Don't let them be born! Come here on euthanasia day and then ask yourself if you should be producing more kittens! Thanks for letting me vent. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Great story of taming feral cats Japanese style viatreehugger
Wow, I wonder how many people lost fingers trying to touch the cats through the cages! (haha) -Original Message- From: dana giordano [mailto:giordano.d...@gmail.com] Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 5:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Great story of taming feral cats Japanese style viatreehugger I know some of you work with feral cat communities and wanted to pass this on. I thought this story was pretty great. They call it cat rehab. A surprising and unexpected way to deal with a feral cats killing actual endangered species. Check it out! http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/07/cat-rehab-weans-feral-felines-of f-endandered-birds.php?campaign=daily_n l* *Dana* ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] hemobartonella and possible FeLV interested party in NY!
Rachel- my Felv cat had hemobartonella, and was put on doxycycline for a month- it has cleared up completely. -Original Message- From: rache20...@aol.com [mailto:rache20...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2010 11:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] hemobartonella and possible FeLV interested party in NY! I have 2 questions! One fl\or Paola and one for Beth. Paola, I would love to know who in NY is even somewhat interested in an FeLV+ cat as I have one who may or may not need a home and I just brought 2 kittens to a sanctuary yesterday, and I owuld love for them to have a real home (I live in NY). Also, Beth, I just had my rescue cat who has FeLV diagnosed today with hemobartonella and I have a really bad feeling about it. She is not eating well, is depressed, lost 1.5 lbs in a little over a month (and she was skinny before). She was 5.5lbs and is now 4 lbs. I'm really worried and sad for her and I want to do all I can to help, but I don't want to make her suffer, and I have three of my own cats to worry about plus all the other rescues. This is getting very costly! So if you know of something that might help the hemobartonella, please let me know! Thanks Rachel ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Beltza and myself
Ana, my cat Clara Bow also had (has) anemia (and is FeLV+). I took her in for a second opinion (and possible transfusion), and was told that she may have hemobartonella. A test confirmed this, and she was put on doxycycline. A week after the antibiotics were started, her hematocrit went from 13% up to 22%. She has been on it for 2 weeks now, and has 2 more weeks to go (much to her chagrin!). You might want to ask your vet to test for it. Clara's hemobartonella infection was so rampant, it showed up on the CBC! Keep us posted... -Original Message- From: Ana Gutierrez [mailto:ana...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 06, 2010 2:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Beltza and myself Dear Natalie, Thanks for your answer. The diagnose was based on an ELISA, she showed FeLV+. How can I tell if she also has regular leukemia? Which analysis needs to be done? Thanks for forwading my mail to your vet. I'm looking forward to read the answer. Best wishes, Ana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Blind/Deaf Cat
LOL@ A JET WINDING UP FOR TAKE OFF! Too funny. -Original Message- From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net] Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 12:07 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Gloria B. Lane Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Blind/Deaf Cat YOU MUST HAVE MY PRIDE'S RELATIVES. MOSTLY, WE HAVE HISSES, SLAPS AND A SOUND AKIN TO A JET WINDING UP FOR TAKE OFF (ANNIE MOSTLY). ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] OT: blind deaf cat
Gloria, I took in a blind and deaf cat a couple of years ago (I think she could see shadows, maybe)- she was 18, and her owner was moving to Chicago and didn't want to be bothered with her- she was going to be put to sleep if no one took her, so of course Crazy Cat Lady here came to the rescue. I kept Smudge in her own room for a couple of months, and then let her out in the rest of the house. She got around fine and none of my other cats bothered her (well, my 16 year old cat Pokey would hiss at her. Of course, Smudge couldn't hear her hissing, haha). They usually moved out of the way when they saw her coming. She learned where the beds were and made herself right at home. From: Gloria B. Lane [mailto:gbl...@aristotle.net] Sent: Sun 6/13/2010 9:11 AM To: Feline Leukemia Subject: [Felvtalk] OT: blind deaf cat I just took in a blind-deaf cat, was one of 25 or so in a lady's house. The lady became disabled, developed dementia, and our rescue took some of her cats. This one first was taken to the city animal services, developed a URI, got about over it, was altered, tested and shots, and we pulled him. He (?) was transferred to a different cage, then to my carrier, then to my home and a large cage. He's not too friendly, although I can at times pet him on the head and scratch his ears. We think it's just because of the changes in his life, that he just doesn't know what's going on and if he needs to defend himself. I haven't had a blind or deaf cat before. Does anyone know of a rescue that will take a blind-deaf cat? I found one in North Carolina, but I'm in Arkansas. Thanks very much, Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat available for adoption (via craigslist NJ)
http://www.facebook.com/bobthebettertomato Hope that works! -Original Message- From: MaryChristine [mailto:twelvehousec...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 5:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat available for adoption (via craigslist NJ) so what's bob's facebook linky? -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat available for adoption (via craigslist NJ)
My cat Bob has a Facebook page, and just posted the link on there- he's got over 600 friends, and I'm pretty sure some of them live in that area :-) -Original Message- From: dana giordano [mailto:giordano.d...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 7:07 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV cat available for adoption (via craigslist NJ) Hi, I haven't posted anything yet, just keeping up with the list. I saw this posting on craigslist for a FeLV positive cat needing a home. I don't work for the rescue or anything and I can't take in another cat. I just thought it was worth a shot to post it on here. I know you all care about your kitties very much. http://philadelphia.craigslist.org/pet/1703019322.html Best, Dana ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Possible therapy for felv
My cat Charlie would probably scarf it down... :-S -Original Message- From: Gloria B. Lane [mailto:gbl...@aristotle.net] Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:09 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Possible therapy for felv Good luck feeding your cats dandelions with cheese and jalapeno sauce... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations
Hey Laurie- have you ever considered putting up bat houses? That may keep them out of the house :-) http://www.batconservation.org/content/Bathouseimportance.html -Original Message- From: Laurieskatz [mailto:lauriesk...@mchsi.com] Sent: Thu 3/4/2010 1:33 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations Thank-you to all who responded. GREAT help! I loved the KY vet link and the thoughts about a holistic remedy to be used if vaccinating. I talked to my vet and he does have the purevax. He prefers the 3 year adjuvanted rabies but will use the purevax. He also has the internasal distemper. He said it is up to me what we do. He also mentioned, as did several people here, that the law and vet hospitalization require rabies. My dilemma there is, if they are sick enough to be hospitalized, they will be too sick to be vaccinated if they are not already vaccinated. My vet recommends agst titer testing. He said it is not accurate. Another vet did do titer testing on Frankie and found he was still covered for some of the distemper diseases but not all. We have had bats in the house twice. That is probably my biggest worry. I do think the entries have all been closed but we do live in the woods and they like to sleep behind our shutters. I am still undecided about the vaccines, but I am better informed~ Thank-you! Laurie and tribe ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations
Well, maybe you could put it way out in the woods on a tree... (haha) Sorry to hear about the rabies shots- ouch! -Original Message- From: Laurieskatz [mailto:lauriesk...@mchsi.com] Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:00 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations As a matter of fact, I have! I worried that it might attract MORE bats.not sure what the outcome would be. I do love bats and, of course, let the last one out (my cats killed the first one and I only found body parts). Because the second one was in the bedroom area, we all had to have the rabies series of shots! There was a presumption we'd been bitten. If there is a next time I won't tell anyone... ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Virginia Clemans article regarding FelineLeukemiaViirus
My brother and I have both had Feleuk+ cats who lived to be 17, and we never did anything special to prolong their lifespans- this was a little before the current options were made available to Joe Blow. Perhaps I should mail her as well... From: Elizabeth Malone [mailto:malon...@yahoo.com] Sent: Wed 2/10/2010 10:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Virginia Clemans article regarding FelineLeukemiaViirus I did write to her. I have the exact same email. I told her about my boy who lived for 8 years with this virus. I truly believe she just isn't willing to look anyone else's opinion other than this Dr. Mike. It really is sad for the many that have worked so diligently to provide education about this illness. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries
Noodles and ninja stars- that's hilarious! Made me LOL for real. I've had a few like that in my day. And a female like that now. God forbid she should ever need pilling. =8-O -Original Message- From: Diane Rosenfeldt [mailto:drosenfe...@wi.rr.com] Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 6:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] PA or OH FeLV+ Cat Sanctuaries We are so grateful that our one cat who needs meds, Luc, is very mild-mannered. We can drop a pill down his throat with no trouble. In contrast, we are hoping that one of our other cats, Tribble, never gets sick. He has been a hellion since the day he was born (we suspect his brain consists of noodles and ninja stars) and will turn a cuddling session into carnage at a split second's notice. We tell him, You better never need life-saving pills, cuz, Dude, if you do...it was nice knowing you. (I suspect that if he ever does need meds we'll be praying for a transdermal option.) On the other hand, we've had to assist-feed Luc here and there and he is not a happy camper and has lots and lots and lots of claws. Diane R. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] RIP Mattie 7/09 - 8/09
I'm sorry, Sharyl :-( -Original Message- From: Sharyl [mailto:cline...@yahoo.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 4:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] RIP Mattie 7/09 - 8/09 I had to make that last vet trip with my dear sweet Mattie today. She lost the use of her back legs last week due to neurological issues from the FeLV. The paralysis spread and she had lost bladder and bowel control. She was still eating and grooming herself but I couldn't wait until she was suffering. She deserved better than that. She fell asleep in my arms from the sedative and never felt the 2nd shot. Even though blind since birth she was the most inquisitive kitten I've ever had. No challenge was too great for her. She is the last of a litter of 4 positive babies I rescued last summer. What amazes me is that their mom and 3 aunts, all positives and now spayed, are still doing fine. All I can say is Mattie had a wonderful 12 months wanting for nothing and teaching me so much. I learned not to let a handicap limit me. It sure didn't limit her love of life. She is now at the Rainbow Bridge with Bright Eyes, Houdini, and CJ. Sharyl ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision
Yes, my vet gives me the ace whenever it's that time... Before, I have had a few who would really perk up on the way to the vet's office, as if to say, I'm not sick, look at me! I can run circles around you! And THAT makes it really hard! My cat Benjamin (FeLeuk+) had been going slowly downhill for a couple of years (we think he was about 17 at the end)- and it had gotten to the point where he couldn't make it to the litter box anymore and was very weak. So we cried and drove down to the vet's office, and he started acting like a kitten again. We turned around and brought him back home, where he scampered all over the house, played with toys, had an appetite again, etc. Several days later, though, he was back where he started, and we took him to the vet's again. Again he perked up in the car, but we knew it was time. :-( That was really hard. -Original Message- From: Lorrie [mailto:felineres...@kvinet.com] Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 5:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision Yes, watching them struggle or gasp for breath is just unbearable. I've used Klonopin to ease the fear or struggle when a cat is dying. It really helps and it is used for cats because I checked with my vet. It's like Valium. Have any of you used this for dying cats? I have a prescription for myself, so I always have it on hand. Ace promazine would have to be gotten from a vet wouldn't it?? We all hope our furry ones will died peacefully at home, preferably in their sleep, but as you said, it seldom happens that way. Same for people. We all hope to die peacefully at home. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision
I have given cats ace promazine in situations like that, before I take them to the vet to be put to sleep. That way, they aren't stressed out from going there, and don't end up wasting away for days or weeks on end. I've often wished that a cat would pass away in his/ her sleep, so that I wouldn't have to take them in (of course that never happens), but it's just too painful to watch them gasping for breath, or trying to walk and falling down, etc. Just my personal opinion... -Original Message- From: Lorrie [mailto:felineres...@kvinet.com] Sent: Tuesday, August 11, 2009 4:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Difficult decision Dear Friends, I have a difficult decision to make, and I hope you can help... I have several FelV cats at a shelter I have in town. Most remain in good health by all appearances, however one 8 year old female has been steadily losing weight, she is now very anemic; extremely emaciatedm and she stopped eating two days ago. She will still lick a bit of baby food from my fingers, and she is still drinking water, but this is all. I know she is probably going to die soon, but I want her to die in familiar surroundings where she is loved, rather than having to make a trip to the vet which is always terrifying for cats. The vets here will not come out to see or euthanize a sick cat. This cat does not appear to be in any pain. She has no tumors, nor neurogical symptoms, but I know she will soon die from the anemia. I do not believe in extending the life of a cat who has a terminal illness, therefore I will not put her through transfusions or heroic measures. If I had a terminal illness I would not wish this for myself! What I'm asking is this I'm sure some of you have had anemic FelV cats and I want to know if dying from anemia is painful. If so I will have her put to sleep. Even though I know the trip to the vet will be frightening for her... I do not want her to suffer. Thank you for your help, Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fleas and Ticks
I, too, live in SC, and have found that Revolution works wonders on my cats for keeping things under control... Unfortunately it doesn't kill tapeworms, but it does kill roundworms and hookworms. I am lucky enough to have a vet that will sell me the Droncit without seeing the animals. Beverly -Original Message- From: sheila...@aol.com [mailto:sheila...@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2009 9:24 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Fleas and Ticks I have an outbreak of fleas on my eight felv+ cats brought home by my two dogs who like to run away every chance they get. I need to worm all my kitties .Can someone recommend worm med's that I can buy without a prescription. I can't afford to take all of them to a vet at one time. I also have to buy flea med's I'm thinking Frontline. I've never had much of a problem with parasites until this spring. Please help. Sheila in SC ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone else on Facebook?
My cat Bob is on there (haha)- Bob TheTomato is his name, jacke...@gmail.com is the email addresses he uses... P.S. My name is Beverly, btw- I've never contributed to the discussion, but I do get a lot out of reading it :-) From: Sally Davis [mailto:putty...@gmail.com] Sent: Thu 3/26/2009 12:36 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone else on Facebook? HI Kelley and Belinda, I sent both of you friend invites. Sally(VA) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
