Re: [Felvtalk] FW: President

2012-10-09 Thread dlgegg

Problem is that they have all lost sense of reality.  They have no 
understanding of what it means to be middle class or poor.  They have all been 
privileged tooo long

 Lee Evans  wrote: 
> I agree that neither candidate can make animal rights/welfare a major issue 
> in this election and I also agree that the economy is the major issue that 
> impacts our rescues and other people's companion animals the most.  Then I 
> look at the incumbent and see a man who was trussed up like a chicken about 
> to go into the rotisserie and I see who did the trussing up, the Republican 
> Senate.  I look at who started the sub-prime mortgage mess that led to so 
> many people losing their homes and I see a Republican President allowing 
> banks and stock brokers and CEO's of investment companies to have free rein 
> to grab the money and run.  I see an ineffectual congress trying to get a 
> fair tax program wherein people earning over a quarter of a million dollars 
> a  year would pay their fair share of taxes to run the country.  Then I see 
> Republicans putting up road blocks by saying that businesses would have to 
> shut down if taxes were raised.  Who the heck ever mentioned
>  businesses?  The problem is INDIVIDUALS who are rolling in money. I see 
> Republicans coming in with smoke and mirrors and clouding the issue, 
> confusing people into thinking that the tax hike would be on businesses.  I 
> see a ridiculous-on-both sides health care plan with over a thousand pages of 
> gibberish regulations.  What's wrong with just extending Medicare and 
> Medicaid to everyone?  What's the problem with not re-inventing the wheel and 
> adopting the Canadian health care model?  Then my friends tell me that we 
> need a business man with a good sense of the economy to run the country.  And 
> I say, these are the same people who ran the country off a cliff for 8 
> years.  I don't think I want them in the drivers seat again.  Just my opinion.

 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
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 From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW:  President
 

Actually very simple:  Romney’s dog on top of the car and Obama’s dog inside 
the car.
 
From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen 
Olvey
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
 
Without endorsing either candidate here's some thoughts I had on deciding 
between the candidates:


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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: President

2012-10-05 Thread Lorrie
Good for you Natalie. I was wondering if anyone would bring
that up. I can't imagine the horror and fear Romney's dog felt while
his crate was on the top of his car!  I'd like to strap Romney there!!

Lorrie

On 10-04, Natalie wrote:
>Actually very simple:  Romney's dog on top of the car and Obama's dog
>inside the car.


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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: President

2012-10-04 Thread Lee Evans
I agree that neither candidate can make animal rights/welfare a major issue in 
this election and I also agree that the economy is the major issue that impacts 
our rescues and other people's companion animals the most.  Then I look at the 
incumbent and see a man who was trussed up like a chicken about to go into the 
rotisserie and I see who did the trussing up, the Republican Senate.  I look at 
who started the sub-prime mortgage mess that led to so many people losing their 
homes and I see a Republican President allowing banks and stock brokers and 
CEO's of investment companies to have free rein to grab the money and run.  I 
see an ineffectual congress trying to get a fair tax program wherein people 
earning over a quarter of a million dollars a  year would pay their fair share 
of taxes to run the country.  Then I see Republicans putting up road blocks by 
saying that businesses would have to shut down if taxes were raised.  Who the 
heck ever mentioned
 businesses?  The problem is INDIVIDUALS who are rolling in money. I see 
Republicans coming in with smoke and mirrors and clouding the issue, confusing 
people into thinking that the tax hike would be on businesses.  I see a 
ridiculous-on-both sides health care plan with over a thousand pages of 
gibberish regulations.  What's wrong with just extending Medicare and Medicaid 
to everyone?  What's the problem with not re-inventing the wheel and adopting 
the Canadian health care model?  Then my friends tell me that we need a 
business man with a good sense of the economy to run the country.  And I say, 
these are the same people who ran the country off a cliff for 8 years.  I don't 
think I want them in the drivers seat again.  Just my opinion.

 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, October 4, 2012 4:29 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW:  President
 

Actually very simple:  Romney’s dog on top of the car and Obama’s dog inside 
the car.
 
From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen 
Olvey
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
 
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[Felvtalk] FW: President

2012-10-04 Thread Natalie
Actually very simple:  Romney's dog on top of the car and Obama's dog inside
the car.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Maureen Olvey
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 1:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President

 

Without endorsing either candidate here's some thoughts I had on deciding
between the candidates:
 
I don't think either candidate will directly influence animal cruelty laws
or humane practice laws.  They've got too much else to worry about,
especially right now.  Even if they love animals it will not be their
priority.  So, for this particular election I'm not even considering it.
Now obviously if the candidate was a known animal abuser that would be
different and would impact my decision.  
 
When it comes to animal issues I tend to focus on the legislative branch
like Congress and state reps, etc. that would have more influence passing
legislation and laws.
 
So, regarding animal welfare I'm basing my decision on who can best help me
and other people help the animals and continue our work in animal welfare.
It's not what they will do, it's what they will allow me to do.  Right now
the economy is a problem.  People are losing their homes and can't keep
their pets.  Donations to animal welfare organizations are down so they
can't do as much either.  Many people like myself feed a bunch of feral
cats.  It is hard to keep doing that when you can barely afford to feed your
family.  I volunteer with a local humane society so even in our small part
of the world I've seen a major increase in the number of pets surrendered by
owners who lost their homes or just left their pets behind.   People have to
spend more time trying to make ends meet and don't have time to volunteer
with animal rescues etc.  Just lots of things like that.  
 
Considering those kinds of things I'm looking at who can help the economy
the most.  Each candidate has very different economic policies and very
different approaches to boosting our economy.  So that's one thing I'm
looking at hard - which economic policy do I think will work.  I lived in a
third world country for two years a long time ago.  Their animals were a lot
worse off than ours and it wasn't because the people weren't compassionate
they just didn't have anything to be able to help their animals.  So right
now I'm looking at which economic plan will help the country get back on
it's feet so we can keep our pets and have time to donate and volunteer to
fight for animal protection legislation.
 
Healthcare is definitely something to consider but that's also part of the
economic crisis so I'm not going to directly contribute any thoughts on
that.  
 
I would suggest not looking at just what the candidates say they will do for
the animals but look at what will help us do for the animals.  They've got
too many other issues to tackle.  I'd be surprised if either one of them
took up one animal issue whatsoever.  It's people like us who are working
for the animals that make the difference so see what they can do for us and
we'll do all the legwork to help the animals.  Take a look at the economic
plans and that will help influence your decision.  I had a few basic
economic courses in college so I understand the basics but not all the
details.  I think if you just look at the basic models without going into
too too many details it would be enough to make a decision.
 
But hey, there's lots of other things to consider but that's where I'm at
when I think about what will help the animals the most.

"I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further." - Mark
Twain
 

 

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