Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk - freezing interferon

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
thank you Patricia!  i have learned so much from everyone oin this group.  when 
would i have a chance to talk with scientists working with this sort of thing.  
only wish i could go back to school for the rest of my life andlearn everything 
that i want to know.  so once again, thanks for teaching me something new.  
dorlis
 patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote: 
 Interferon is a protein.  It is dried into a powder which should be able 
 to be frozen with
 no problem.  But when proteins are dissolved into a liquid solution, 
 freezing can be tricky.
 As a scientist working with a variety of proteins, I can tell you that 
 many proteins will start
 to break down if frozen more than once.  And rapid freezing is preferable 
 to slow freezing.
 At home, the closest thing to rapid freezing could be done by putting the 
 protein tube into ice in the back of
 the freezer lowering
 the temp more rapidly than if you just stick it on the shelf in the 
 freezer.  Proteins also generally
 survive freezing better if they are more dilute and freezing in smaller 
 portions will allow the
 freezing to go faster than freezing in big portions.
 
 If a protein is degraded by freezing, it's structure starts to unwind. 
 Some molecules of the
 protein in the solution may degrade and others won't so you may still see 
 that the protein has
 some activity or it may lose all activity.  You might see some precipitate 
 in the solution (always
 a bad sign) or you might not.  Without some kind of activity readout, it 
 seems impossible
 to me to know whether freezing is causing a problem.
 
 In summary, I would make up the solution to the appropriate dilution and 
 freeze it in the smallest
 portions that will work (need appropriate sized containers) in the coldest 
 part of the freezer in ice.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk - freezing interferon

2009-06-10 Thread Patricia . A . Elkins
Interferon is a protein.  It is dried into a powder which should be able 
to be frozen with
no problem.  But when proteins are dissolved into a liquid solution, 
freezing can be tricky.
As a scientist working with a variety of proteins, I can tell you that 
many proteins will start
to break down if frozen more than once.  And rapid freezing is preferable 
to slow freezing.
At home, the closest thing to rapid freezing could be done by putting the 
protein tube into ice in the back of
the freezer lowering
the temp more rapidly than if you just stick it on the shelf in the 
freezer.  Proteins also generally
survive freezing better if they are more dilute and freezing in smaller 
portions will allow the
freezing to go faster than freezing in big portions.

If a protein is degraded by freezing, it's structure starts to unwind. 
Some molecules of the
protein in the solution may degrade and others won't so you may still see 
that the protein has
some activity or it may lose all activity.  You might see some precipitate 
in the solution (always
a bad sign) or you might not.  Without some kind of activity readout, it 
seems impossible
to me to know whether freezing is causing a problem.

In summary, I would make up the solution to the appropriate dilution and 
freeze it in the smallest
portions that will work (need appropriate sized containers) in the coldest 
part of the freezer in ice.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk - freezing interferon

2009-06-10 Thread Gloria B. Lane

All this is very helpful - thanks Patricia, MC, and Joel!

Gloria



On Jun 10, 2009, at 12:32 PM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote:

Interferon is a protein.  It is dried into a powder which should be  
able

to be frozen with
no problem.  But when proteins are dissolved into a liquid solution,
freezing can be tricky.
As a scientist working with a variety of proteins, I can tell you that
many proteins will start
to break down if frozen more than once.  And rapid freezing is  
preferable

to slow freezing.
At home, the closest thing to rapid freezing could be done by  
putting the

protein tube into ice in the back of
the freezer lowering
the temp more rapidly than if you just stick it on the shelf in the
freezer.  Proteins also generally
survive freezing better if they are more dilute and freezing in  
smaller

portions will allow the
freezing to go faster than freezing in big portions.

If a protein is degraded by freezing, it's structure starts to unwind.
Some molecules of the
protein in the solution may degrade and others won't so you may  
still see

that the protein has
some activity or it may lose all activity.  You might see some  
precipitate

in the solution (always
a bad sign) or you might not.  Without some kind of activity  
readout, it

seems impossible
to me to know whether freezing is causing a problem.

In summary, I would make up the solution to the appropriate dilution  
and

freeze it in the smallest
portions that will work (need appropriate sized containers) in the  
coldest

part of the freezer in ice.
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