Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

2011-12-15 Thread dlgegg
In a way, I am glad I am nt working.  This taking up a lot of my time between 
research, new feeding schedules and cleaning up after Homey's accidents does 
not leave much for anything else.  Not o mention trips to the vet.


 jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: 
 I have 't been getting much either lately.  Didn't even see your email
 in response.
 
 As far raw diets go, I get nature's menu from a local store in
 Wisconsin.  You would probably have to order via the web and have it
 sent.  Otherwise, Bravo raw diet should be at most small holistic type
 animal stores.  You can do a google search for where bravo is sold in
 your area.  Fromm and Orijen should be at most of these types of
 animal stores as well.  As far as the cranberry goes, I got the
 capsules with the powdered cranberry inside (you can get at any
 grocery store for the most part).  I put a very small amount (about
 1/8th of the capsule and mix it in with the moist or raw food.  Some
 cats absolutely refuse it so don't.  If they absolutely refuse it, I
 have used plain canned tuna and mixed it in that.  Otherwise Fromm has
 a diet with cranberry mixed in.
 
 I'm not a great fan of SD, but before I used the raw diet, I used the
 C/D and it did work and they did eat it, but it's just not as good for
 their overall health and the second I would use any other food the
 crystals came back.  Raw diet allows for a wide variety of food types.
  Be warned, however, it will take one to two months before the problem
 truely resolves.  I would leave out dry food like Fromm or Orijen if
 you do the grazing type feeding and then give raw every evening and
 canned wet in the morning mixing in the cranberry whenever possible,
 or some variation thereof.
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 Jenny
 On 12/14/11, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:
 
  I have not been getting any posts lately?  I had to go back through my email
  to find this one
 
 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
  Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:50:37 +
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
 
  I get hills c/d at any vet I stop into. I live in Los angeles. It has
  saved my Tweetys life! He eats nothing else.
  Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dlg...@windstream.net
  Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:39:51
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
 
  Homey's crystals are struvite, very few calcte. She geets fitered water in
  fountains along with e other 6 cats in my house. We have 8 litter boxes
  tat are scooped out at least 2 times a day. I use a corncob litter because
  it is biodegradeble, doesn't track more than clay and hadles odors very
  well. I hadeveryone on Blue Buffalo Duck and sweet potato mixed 1/2 with
  turkey and sweet potato becauseCasey has troube with the dck, think it is
  to rich for her (14 years old). The food was dry. Vet now has her on
  Hill's SD and gave her a shot of Convenia antibiotic to get her started
  toward healing. He also did Cystocentesis ad sent urine sample off for
  cultures (aerobic and anaerobic) to determine exactly which bacteria was
  involved so he can giveherthe right antibiotic. The shot and SD seem to be
  helping as urine balls in boxes re all close to normal size, This is the
  3rd timethis year, that s why he did the cultures. The last time, she
  refused the SD, bt it had been sitting on the floor of he van onthe way
  home so was nice and warm. She and others ate it up. I also got some SD
  dry just in case she decides she does not like the canned. Thought about
  mixing dry into wet. Where can I get these other foods you menioned? As to
  cranberry, tried giving her some and only way to get it in her was to
  spend 20 minutes trying to catch her and rub t on her feet. Then she
  avoids me for at least 1 hr afterwards.
 
   jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote:
   Forgive me as I have missed the beginning of this email thread. With
   respect to urinary crystals diet is huge. Every cat that has ever
   been brought to me with crystals has responded to diet with complete
   eradication of crystals (make sure you know what type of crystals
   you're dealing though). Raw diet is the key. If you can't do raw,
   the high quality canned foods like Fromm, Go, Wellness work quite
   well. You can still do some dry but it has to be the good stuff -
   Orijen or Fromm would be my recommendation. I always add some
   cranberry to it if they'll take it just to avoid UTIs. It takes about
   four weeks if the crystals are bad and in the meantime you have to
   make sure they do not become obstructed (that often takes vet strength
   food or catheter or suprapubic taps.
  
   Hope this helps.
  
   Jenny
  
   On 12/8/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
In the course of conversation with Karen today, I mentoned that Hojey
had

Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

2011-12-14 Thread Edna Taylor

I have not been getting any posts lately?  I had to go back through my email to 
find this one
 

 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:50:37 +
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
 
 I get hills c/d at any vet I stop into. I live in Los angeles. It has saved 
 my Tweetys life! He eats nothing else. 
 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:39:51 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
 
 Homey's crystals are struvite, very few calcte. She geets fitered water in 
 fountains along with e other 6 cats in my house. We have 8 litter boxes tat 
 are scooped out at least 2 times a day. I use a corncob litter because it is 
 biodegradeble, doesn't track more than clay and hadles odors very well. I 
 hadeveryone on Blue Buffalo Duck and sweet potato mixed 1/2 with turkey and 
 sweet potato becauseCasey has troube with the dck, think it is to rich for 
 her (14 years old). The food was dry. Vet now has her on Hill's SD and gave 
 her a shot of Convenia antibiotic to get her started toward healing. He also 
 did Cystocentesis ad sent urine sample off for cultures (aerobic and 
 anaerobic) to determine exactly which bacteria was involved so he can 
 giveherthe right antibiotic. The shot and SD seem to be helping as urine 
 balls in boxes re all close to normal size, This is the 3rd timethis year, 
 that s why he did the cultures. The last time, she refused the SD, bt it had 
 been sitting on the floor of he van onthe way home so was nice and warm. She 
 and others ate it up. I also got some SD dry just in case she decides she 
 does not like the canned. Thought about mixing dry into wet. Where can I get 
 these other foods you menioned? As to cranberry, tried giving her some and 
 only way to get it in her was to spend 20 minutes trying to catch her and rub 
 t on her feet. Then she avoids me for at least 1 hr afterwards.
 
  jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: 
  Forgive me as I have missed the beginning of this email thread. With
  respect to urinary crystals diet is huge. Every cat that has ever
  been brought to me with crystals has responded to diet with complete
  eradication of crystals (make sure you know what type of crystals
  you're dealing though). Raw diet is the key. If you can't do raw,
  the high quality canned foods like Fromm, Go, Wellness work quite
  well. You can still do some dry but it has to be the good stuff -
  Orijen or Fromm would be my recommendation. I always add some
  cranberry to it if they'll take it just to avoid UTIs. It takes about
  four weeks if the crystals are bad and in the meantime you have to
  make sure they do not become obstructed (that often takes vet strength
  food or catheter or suprapubic taps.
  
  Hope this helps.
  
  Jenny
  
  On 12/8/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
   In the course of conversation with Karen today, I mentoned that Hojey had
   crystas. She said her cat had same problem and a group Catwell on yahoo
   had helped her. They suggested Cantharis. You can get it at health food
   stoes. Her cat had been gven a death sentence and now is alive and 
   healthy.
   Anybody knw anyting about this?
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

2011-12-14 Thread jbero tds.net
I have 't been getting much either lately.  Didn't even see your email
in response.

As far raw diets go, I get nature's menu from a local store in
Wisconsin.  You would probably have to order via the web and have it
sent.  Otherwise, Bravo raw diet should be at most small holistic type
animal stores.  You can do a google search for where bravo is sold in
your area.  Fromm and Orijen should be at most of these types of
animal stores as well.  As far as the cranberry goes, I got the
capsules with the powdered cranberry inside (you can get at any
grocery store for the most part).  I put a very small amount (about
1/8th of the capsule and mix it in with the moist or raw food.  Some
cats absolutely refuse it so don't.  If they absolutely refuse it, I
have used plain canned tuna and mixed it in that.  Otherwise Fromm has
a diet with cranberry mixed in.

I'm not a great fan of SD, but before I used the raw diet, I used the
C/D and it did work and they did eat it, but it's just not as good for
their overall health and the second I would use any other food the
crystals came back.  Raw diet allows for a wide variety of food types.
 Be warned, however, it will take one to two months before the problem
truely resolves.  I would leave out dry food like Fromm or Orijen if
you do the grazing type feeding and then give raw every evening and
canned wet in the morning mixing in the cranberry whenever possible,
or some variation thereof.

Hope that helps.

Jenny
On 12/14/11, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:

 I have not been getting any posts lately?  I had to go back through my email
 to find this one


 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:50:37 +
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

 I get hills c/d at any vet I stop into. I live in Los angeles. It has
 saved my Tweetys life! He eats nothing else.
 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

 -Original Message-
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:39:51
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

 Homey's crystals are struvite, very few calcte. She geets fitered water in
 fountains along with e other 6 cats in my house. We have 8 litter boxes
 tat are scooped out at least 2 times a day. I use a corncob litter because
 it is biodegradeble, doesn't track more than clay and hadles odors very
 well. I hadeveryone on Blue Buffalo Duck and sweet potato mixed 1/2 with
 turkey and sweet potato becauseCasey has troube with the dck, think it is
 to rich for her (14 years old). The food was dry. Vet now has her on
 Hill's SD and gave her a shot of Convenia antibiotic to get her started
 toward healing. He also did Cystocentesis ad sent urine sample off for
 cultures (aerobic and anaerobic) to determine exactly which bacteria was
 involved so he can giveherthe right antibiotic. The shot and SD seem to be
 helping as urine balls in boxes re all close to normal size, This is the
 3rd timethis year, that s why he did the cultures. The last time, she
 refused the SD, bt it had been sitting on the floor of he van onthe way
 home so was nice and warm. She and others ate it up. I also got some SD
 dry just in case she decides she does not like the canned. Thought about
 mixing dry into wet. Where can I get these other foods you menioned? As to
 cranberry, tried giving her some and only way to get it in her was to
 spend 20 minutes trying to catch her and rub t on her feet. Then she
 avoids me for at least 1 hr afterwards.

  jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote:
  Forgive me as I have missed the beginning of this email thread. With
  respect to urinary crystals diet is huge. Every cat that has ever
  been brought to me with crystals has responded to diet with complete
  eradication of crystals (make sure you know what type of crystals
  you're dealing though). Raw diet is the key. If you can't do raw,
  the high quality canned foods like Fromm, Go, Wellness work quite
  well. You can still do some dry but it has to be the good stuff -
  Orijen or Fromm would be my recommendation. I always add some
  cranberry to it if they'll take it just to avoid UTIs. It takes about
  four weeks if the crystals are bad and in the meantime you have to
  make sure they do not become obstructed (that often takes vet strength
  food or catheter or suprapubic taps.
 
  Hope this helps.
 
  Jenny
 
  On 12/8/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
   In the course of conversation with Karen today, I mentoned that Hojey
   had
   crystas. She said her cat had same problem and a group Catwell on
   yahoo
   had helped her. They suggested Cantharis. You can get it at health
   food
   stoes. Her cat had been gven a death sentence and now is alive and
   healthy.
   Anybody knw anyting about this?
  
   ___
   Felvtalk mailing list
   Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

2011-12-14 Thread Edna Taylor

Wish we could afford a raw diet but we have WY too many 
for that and we have a few whose glutton buttons don't have an off switch ;) 
so they eat what they have and move on to another plate :)
 

 Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:09:12 -0600
 From: jb...@tds.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
 
 I have 't been getting much either lately. Didn't even see your email
 in response.
 
 As far raw diets go, I get nature's menu from a local store in
 Wisconsin. You would probably have to order via the web and have it
 sent. Otherwise, Bravo raw diet should be at most small holistic type
 animal stores. You can do a google search for where bravo is sold in
 your area. Fromm and Orijen should be at most of these types of
 animal stores as well. As far as the cranberry goes, I got the
 capsules with the powdered cranberry inside (you can get at any
 grocery store for the most part). I put a very small amount (about
 1/8th of the capsule and mix it in with the moist or raw food. Some
 cats absolutely refuse it so don't. If they absolutely refuse it, I
 have used plain canned tuna and mixed it in that. Otherwise Fromm has
 a diet with cranberry mixed in.
 
 I'm not a great fan of SD, but before I used the raw diet, I used the
 C/D and it did work and they did eat it, but it's just not as good for
 their overall health and the second I would use any other food the
 crystals came back. Raw diet allows for a wide variety of food types.
 Be warned, however, it will take one to two months before the problem
 truely resolves. I would leave out dry food like Fromm or Orijen if
 you do the grazing type feeding and then give raw every evening and
 canned wet in the morning mixing in the cranberry whenever possible,
 or some variation thereof.
 
 Hope that helps.
 
 Jenny
 On 12/14/11, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:
 
  I have not been getting any posts lately? I had to go back through my email
  to find this one
 
 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
  Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:50:37 +
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
 
  I get hills c/d at any vet I stop into. I live in Los angeles. It has
  saved my Tweetys life! He eats nothing else.
  Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
 
  -Original Message-
  From: dlg...@windstream.net
  Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:39:51
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
 
  Homey's crystals are struvite, very few calcte. She geets fitered water in
  fountains along with e other 6 cats in my house. We have 8 litter boxes
  tat are scooped out at least 2 times a day. I use a corncob litter because
  it is biodegradeble, doesn't track more than clay and hadles odors very
  well. I hadeveryone on Blue Buffalo Duck and sweet potato mixed 1/2 with
  turkey and sweet potato becauseCasey has troube with the dck, think it is
  to rich for her (14 years old). The food was dry. Vet now has her on
  Hill's SD and gave her a shot of Convenia antibiotic to get her started
  toward healing. He also did Cystocentesis ad sent urine sample off for
  cultures (aerobic and anaerobic) to determine exactly which bacteria was
  involved so he can giveherthe right antibiotic. The shot and SD seem to be
  helping as urine balls in boxes re all close to normal size, This is the
  3rd timethis year, that s why he did the cultures. The last time, she
  refused the SD, bt it had been sitting on the floor of he van onthe way
  home so was nice and warm. She and others ate it up. I also got some SD
  dry just in case she decides she does not like the canned. Thought about
  mixing dry into wet. Where can I get these other foods you menioned? As to
  cranberry, tried giving her some and only way to get it in her was to
  spend 20 minutes trying to catch her and rub t on her feet. Then she
  avoids me for at least 1 hr afterwards.
 
   jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote:
   Forgive me as I have missed the beginning of this email thread. With
   respect to urinary crystals diet is huge. Every cat that has ever
   been brought to me with crystals has responded to diet with complete
   eradication of crystals (make sure you know what type of crystals
   you're dealing though). Raw diet is the key. If you can't do raw,
   the high quality canned foods like Fromm, Go, Wellness work quite
   well. You can still do some dry but it has to be the good stuff -
   Orijen or Fromm would be my recommendation. I always add some
   cranberry to it if they'll take it just to avoid UTIs. It takes about
   four weeks if the crystals are bad and in the meantime you have to
   make sure they do not become obstructed (that often takes vet strength
   food or catheter or suprapubic taps.
  
   Hope this helps.
  
   Jenny
  
   On 12/8/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote

Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

2011-12-14 Thread dlgegg
Me too!  I have 7 and would have to put Homey in a room by herself when feeding 
her or Harley and Dee, my gluttons would eat it all.  They will even push 
others away from their bowls.  May have to go to holding Homey's dish on my lap 
and then I can keep the others away while she eats.  Is the dry food a no, no 
just because it is dry?  If so, I have water fountains and everyone drinks a 
lot of water, includig Homey.  To make the SD go farther, I mix hot water with 
it since they all drink all the liquid first and then go back and eat the meat.

 Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: 
 
 Wish we could afford a raw diet but we have WY too 
 many for that and we have a few whose glutton buttons don't have an off 
 switch ;) so they eat what they have and move on to another plate :)
  
 
  Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:09:12 -0600
  From: jb...@tds.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
  
  I have 't been getting much either lately. Didn't even see your email
  in response.
  
  As far raw diets go, I get nature's menu from a local store in
  Wisconsin. You would probably have to order via the web and have it
  sent. Otherwise, Bravo raw diet should be at most small holistic type
  animal stores. You can do a google search for where bravo is sold in
  your area. Fromm and Orijen should be at most of these types of
  animal stores as well. As far as the cranberry goes, I got the
  capsules with the powdered cranberry inside (you can get at any
  grocery store for the most part). I put a very small amount (about
  1/8th of the capsule and mix it in with the moist or raw food. Some
  cats absolutely refuse it so don't. If they absolutely refuse it, I
  have used plain canned tuna and mixed it in that. Otherwise Fromm has
  a diet with cranberry mixed in.
  
  I'm not a great fan of SD, but before I used the raw diet, I used the
  C/D and it did work and they did eat it, but it's just not as good for
  their overall health and the second I would use any other food the
  crystals came back. Raw diet allows for a wide variety of food types.
  Be warned, however, it will take one to two months before the problem
  truely resolves. I would leave out dry food like Fromm or Orijen if
  you do the grazing type feeding and then give raw every evening and
  canned wet in the morning mixing in the cranberry whenever possible,
  or some variation thereof.
  
  Hope that helps.
  
  Jenny
  On 12/14/11, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:
  
   I have not been getting any posts lately? I had to go back through my 
   email
   to find this one
  
  
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
   Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 00:50:37 +
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
  
   I get hills c/d at any vet I stop into. I live in Los angeles. It has
   saved my Tweetys life! He eats nothing else.
   Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
  
   -Original Message-
   From: dlg...@windstream.net
   Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:39:51
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals
  
   Homey's crystals are struvite, very few calcte. She geets fitered water 
   in
   fountains along with e other 6 cats in my house. We have 8 litter boxes
   tat are scooped out at least 2 times a day. I use a corncob litter 
   because
   it is biodegradeble, doesn't track more than clay and hadles odors very
   well. I hadeveryone on Blue Buffalo Duck and sweet potato mixed 1/2 with
   turkey and sweet potato becauseCasey has troube with the dck, think it is
   to rich for her (14 years old). The food was dry. Vet now has her on
   Hill's SD and gave her a shot of Convenia antibiotic to get her started
   toward healing. He also did Cystocentesis ad sent urine sample off for
   cultures (aerobic and anaerobic) to determine exactly which bacteria was
   involved so he can giveherthe right antibiotic. The shot and SD seem to 
   be
   helping as urine balls in boxes re all close to normal size, This is the
   3rd timethis year, that s why he did the cultures. The last time, she
   refused the SD, bt it had been sitting on the floor of he van onthe way
   home so was nice and warm. She and others ate it up. I also got some SD
   dry just in case she decides she does not like the canned. Thought about
   mixing dry into wet. Where can I get these other foods you menioned? As 
   to
   cranberry, tried giving her some and only way to get it in her was to
   spend 20 minutes trying to catch her and rub t on her feet. Then she
   avoids me for at least 1 hr afterwards.
  
    jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote:
Forgive me as I have missed the beginning of this email thread. With
respect to urinary crystals diet is huge. Every cat that has ever
been brought to me with crystals has responded to diet

Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

2011-12-10 Thread GRAS
Our FIV positive cat started on C-D and has progressed to S-D; hates the
canned food, but loves the dry. Hills Science Diet C-D and the S-D, one
dissolves the crystals, and the other one is for maintenance. BTW, our vet
tech at the animal hospital said that it doesn't harm cats who don't have a
problem; in fact, many people just put their cats on that diet (probably the
one for maintenance).
My vet told me that many also put their cats on K-D as soon as they turn a
few years old to make sure that their kidneys stay in good shape.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
ccarlsb...@gmail.com
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 7:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

I get hills c/d at any vet I stop into. I live in Los angeles. It has saved
my Tweetys life! He eats nothing else. 
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: dlg...@windstream.net
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:39:51
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

Homey's crystals are struvite, very few calcte.  She geets fitered water in
fountains along with e other 6 cats in my house.  We have 8 litter boxes tat
are scooped out at least 2 times a day.  I use a corncob litter because it
is biodegradeble, doesn't track more than clay and hadles odors very well.
I hadeveryone on Blue Buffalo Duck and sweet potato mixed 1/2 with turkey
and sweet potato becauseCasey has troube with the dck, think it is to rich
for her (14 years old).  The food was dry.  Vet now has her on Hill's SD and
gave her a shot of Convenia antibiotic to get her started toward healing.
He also did Cystocentesis ad sent urine sample off for cultures (aerobic and
anaerobic) to determine exactly which bacteria was involved so he can
giveherthe right antibiotic.  The shot and SD seem to be helping as urine
balls in boxes re all close to normal size,  This is the 3rd timethis year,
that s why he did the cultures.The last time, she refused the SD, bt it
had been sitting on
 the floor of he van onthe way home so was nice and warm.  She and others
ate it up.  I also got some SD dry just in case she decides she does not
like the canned.  Thought about mixing dry into wet. Where can I get these
other foods you menioned?  As to cranberry, tried giving her some and only
way to get it in her was to spend 20 minutes trying to catch her and rub t
on her feet.  Then she avoids me for at least 1 hr afterwards.

 jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: 
 Forgive me as I have missed the beginning of this email thread.  With 
 respect to urinary crystals diet is huge.  Every cat that has ever 
 been brought to me with crystals has responded to diet with complete 
 eradication of crystals (make sure you know what type of crystals 
 you're dealing though).  Raw diet is the key.  If you can't do raw, 
 the high quality canned foods like Fromm, Go, Wellness work quite 
 well.  You can still do some dry but it has to be the good stuff - 
 Orijen or Fromm would be my recommendation.  I always add some 
 cranberry to it if they'll take it just to avoid UTIs.  It takes about 
 four weeks if the crystals are bad and in the meantime you have to 
 make sure they do not become obstructed (that often takes vet strength 
 food or catheter or suprapubic taps.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Jenny
 
 On 12/8/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
  In the course of conversation with Karen today, I mentoned that 
  Hojey had crystas.  She said her cat had same problem and a group 
  Catwell on yahoo had helped her.  They suggested Cantharis.  You 
  can get it at health food stoes.  Her cat had been gven a death sentence
and now is alive and healthy.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

2011-12-09 Thread jbero tds.net
Forgive me as I have missed the beginning of this email thread.  With
respect to urinary crystals diet is huge.  Every cat that has ever
been brought to me with crystals has responded to diet with complete
eradication of crystals (make sure you know what type of crystals
you're dealing though).  Raw diet is the key.  If you can't do raw,
the high quality canned foods like Fromm, Go, Wellness work quite
well.  You can still do some dry but it has to be the good stuff -
Orijen or Fromm would be my recommendation.  I always add some
cranberry to it if they'll take it just to avoid UTIs.  It takes about
four weeks if the crystals are bad and in the meantime you have to
make sure they do not become obstructed (that often takes vet strength
food or catheter or suprapubic taps.

Hope this helps.

Jenny

On 12/8/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 In the course of conversation with Karen today, I mentoned that Hojey had
 crystas.  She said her cat had same problem and a group Catwell on yahoo
 had helped her.  They suggested Cantharis.  You can get it at health food
 stoes.  Her cat had been gven a death sentence and now is alive and healthy.
  Anybody knw anyting about this?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

2011-12-09 Thread dlgegg
Homey's crystals are struvite, very few calcte.  She geets fitered water in 
fountains along with e other 6 cats in my house.  We have 8 litter boxes tat 
are scooped out at least 2 times a day.  I use a corncob litter because it is 
biodegradeble, doesn't track more than clay and hadles odors very well.  I 
hadeveryone on Blue Buffalo Duck and sweet potato mixed 1/2 with turkey and 
sweet potato becauseCasey has troube with the dck, think it is to rich for her 
(14 years old).  The food was dry.  Vet now has her on Hill's SD and gave her a 
shot of Convenia antibiotic to get her started toward healing.  He also did 
Cystocentesis ad sent urine sample off for cultures (aerobic and anaerobic) to 
determine exactly which bacteria was involved so he can giveherthe right 
antibiotic.  The shot and SD seem to be helping as urine balls in boxes re all 
close to normal size,  This is the 3rd timethis year, that s why he did the 
cultures.The last time, she refused the SD, bt it had been sitting on the 
floor of he van onthe way home so was nice and warm.  She and others ate it up. 
 I also got some SD dry just in case she decides she does not like the canned.  
Thought about mixing dry into wet. Where can I get these other foods you 
menioned?  As to cranberry, tried giving her some and only way to get it in her 
was to spend 20 minutes trying to catch her and rub t on her feet.  Then she 
avoids me for at least 1 hr afterwards.

 jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: 
 Forgive me as I have missed the beginning of this email thread.  With
 respect to urinary crystals diet is huge.  Every cat that has ever
 been brought to me with crystals has responded to diet with complete
 eradication of crystals (make sure you know what type of crystals
 you're dealing though).  Raw diet is the key.  If you can't do raw,
 the high quality canned foods like Fromm, Go, Wellness work quite
 well.  You can still do some dry but it has to be the good stuff -
 Orijen or Fromm would be my recommendation.  I always add some
 cranberry to it if they'll take it just to avoid UTIs.  It takes about
 four weeks if the crystals are bad and in the meantime you have to
 make sure they do not become obstructed (that often takes vet strength
 food or catheter or suprapubic taps.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Jenny
 
 On 12/8/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
  In the course of conversation with Karen today, I mentoned that Hojey had
  crystas.  She said her cat had same problem and a group Catwell on yahoo
  had helped her.  They suggested Cantharis.  You can get it at health food
  stoes.  Her cat had been gven a death sentence and now is alive and healthy.
   Anybody knw anyting about this?
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

2011-12-09 Thread ccarlsberg
I get hills c/d at any vet I stop into. I live in Los angeles. It has saved my 
Tweetys life! He eats nothing else. 
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Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2011 18:39:51 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

Homey's crystals are struvite, very few calcte.  She geets fitered water in 
fountains along with e other 6 cats in my house.  We have 8 litter boxes tat 
are scooped out at least 2 times a day.  I use a corncob litter because it is 
biodegradeble, doesn't track more than clay and hadles odors very well.  I 
hadeveryone on Blue Buffalo Duck and sweet potato mixed 1/2 with turkey and 
sweet potato becauseCasey has troube with the dck, think it is to rich for her 
(14 years old).  The food was dry.  Vet now has her on Hill's SD and gave her a 
shot of Convenia antibiotic to get her started toward healing.  He also did 
Cystocentesis ad sent urine sample off for cultures (aerobic and anaerobic) to 
determine exactly which bacteria was involved so he can giveherthe right 
antibiotic.  The shot and SD seem to be helping as urine balls in boxes re all 
close to normal size,  This is the 3rd timethis year, that s why he did the 
cultures.The last time, she refused the SD, bt it had been sitting on the 
floor of he van onthe way home so was nice and warm.  She and others ate it up. 
 I also got some SD dry just in case she decides she does not like the canned.  
Thought about mixing dry into wet. Where can I get these other foods you 
menioned?  As to cranberry, tried giving her some and only way to get it in her 
was to spend 20 minutes trying to catch her and rub t on her feet.  Then she 
avoids me for at least 1 hr afterwards.

 jbero tds.net jb...@tds.net wrote: 
 Forgive me as I have missed the beginning of this email thread.  With
 respect to urinary crystals diet is huge.  Every cat that has ever
 been brought to me with crystals has responded to diet with complete
 eradication of crystals (make sure you know what type of crystals
 you're dealing though).  Raw diet is the key.  If you can't do raw,
 the high quality canned foods like Fromm, Go, Wellness work quite
 well.  You can still do some dry but it has to be the good stuff -
 Orijen or Fromm would be my recommendation.  I always add some
 cranberry to it if they'll take it just to avoid UTIs.  It takes about
 four weeks if the crystals are bad and in the meantime you have to
 make sure they do not become obstructed (that often takes vet strength
 food or catheter or suprapubic taps.
 
 Hope this helps.
 
 Jenny
 
 On 12/8/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
  In the course of conversation with Karen today, I mentoned that Hojey had
  crystas.  She said her cat had same problem and a group Catwell on yahoo
  had helped her.  They suggested Cantharis.  You can get it at health food
  stoes.  Her cat had been gven a death sentence and now is alive and healthy.
   Anybody knw anyting about this?
 
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[Felvtalk] Homey and her crystals

2011-12-08 Thread dlgegg
In the course of conversation with Karen today, I mentoned that Hojey had 
crystas.  She said her cat had same problem and a group Catwell on yahoo had 
helped her.  They suggested Cantharis.  You can get it at health food stoes.  
Her cat had been gven a death sentence and now is alive and healthy.  Anybody 
knw anyting about this?

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