Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sourcesforproducts?
Hi Gary, Do you have any information on concentration of acemannan and dosing for the discontinued product? I'm investigating several sources for powdered acemannan, which is taken orally. It might offer an alternative to the injectable form, although I suspect doses are smaller and might require longer usage time to show results. Terry gary wrote: = I am afraid I have some very bad news concerning Acemannan. I have found out the manufacturer, Carrington Labs, is out of business. I emailed VPL and they said as far as they know, there is no one else making it. So, we have another product that was effective in saving the lives of cats that is no longer available. Gary -- From: "gary" Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 1:50 AM To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sourcesforproducts? > It is made by Carrington Labs and was being marketed by VPL, but it is no > longer on their website and a search shows their contract with Carrington > Labs expired in April. I am going to call Carrington Labs in the morning > and see if they have another distributor, I sure hope it is still > available. It comes in a box containing four 10 mg containers. The last > time my vet ordered it, it was $225, that was his cost. The protocol is 2 > mg/KG IP, weekly for 6 weeks and then monthly. The monthly shots can be > given sub-q. For those unfamiliar with what IP means, it means through the > wall of the abdomen. > > The instructions say you must use it within 4 hours of mixing it, but the > vet who was the technical assistance person for VPL told me any leftover > would keep fine in the fridge for a week and for a month in the freezer. > > Gary > > -- > From: "Alice Flowers" > Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 12:06 AM > To: > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sources > forproducts? > >> Could you describe what the Acemannan (sp?) is and how it's used? Also >> what are >> good sources for this and also pettinic? Alice > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sourcesforproducts?
I am afraid I have some very bad news concerning Acemannan. I have found out the manufacturer, Carrington Labs, is out of business. I emailed VPL and they said as far as they know, there is no one else making it. So, we have another product that was effective in saving the lives of cats that is no longer available. Gary -- From: "gary" Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 1:50 AM To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sourcesforproducts? It is made by Carrington Labs and was being marketed by VPL, but it is no longer on their website and a search shows their contract with Carrington Labs expired in April. I am going to call Carrington Labs in the morning and see if they have another distributor, I sure hope it is still available. It comes in a box containing four 10 mg containers. The last time my vet ordered it, it was $225, that was his cost. The protocol is 2 mg/KG IP, weekly for 6 weeks and then monthly. The monthly shots can be given sub-q. For those unfamiliar with what IP means, it means through the wall of the abdomen. The instructions say you must use it within 4 hours of mixing it, but the vet who was the technical assistance person for VPL told me any leftover would keep fine in the fridge for a week and for a month in the freezer. Gary -- From: "Alice Flowers" Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 12:06 AM To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sources forproducts? Could you describe what the Acemannan (sp?) is and how it's used? Also what are good sources for this and also pettinic? Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
Thanks Natalie Jenny On 7/26/10, Natalie wrote: > > The fourth herb is Andrographis. Natalie > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net > Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 12:27 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more > > Alice, > > I am so sorry. I was really hoping the LTCI would do it. Pet tinic and > epogen and whatever else may help with anemia is usually only a temporary > fix. The real problem is the underlying bone marrow deficiency due to > infectivity with virus. I have been with this group long enough to have > hopes for so many different possibilities. Sometimes they work, sometimes > not. I know you have too. > > I have a long shot. I requested this for Wolfie too, but want to ask you. > There is a tonic comprised of four herbs. They are anti-inflammatory, and > for cancer. A host of secondary positive effects have been noted with its > use including cessation of certain viral infections. It appears to seek > out > and destroy abnormal cells while leaving healthy ones behind. It also > provides an anti-inflammatory which in many settings can be beneficial. It > hasn't been used for felv as far as I can tell, but in theory I think it > could help. If you are interested I can get you the name of the herbs, > where to get them and how to prepare them. It takes time to do it and > concentrate it so it may take a week before you have the final > product. Let > me know what you think. > > The herbs in graviola, neem and chaparral. The fourth is escaping me right > now, but I can find it. > > God bless and I will pray for you. > > Jenny > > > On 7/24/10, Sharyl wrote: > > > > Alice I understand how stressful this is for all of you. Here is a link > to > > a site that helps explain test results > > Broadway Vet BW Explanations > > http://tinyurl.com/2ex549 > > Just click on the item and open the pdf file. For example it says > > moderately elevated HCT could possibly be a sign of dehydration. > > > > After fighting anemia with a CRF kitty and several FeLV kitties I > > understand your frustration. I didn't get alarmed until the HCT fell > below > > 20%. I did use supplements like NutriVed, Super B Complex. B12 and folic > > acid to help them build new red blood cells. > > > > I rescued a litter of 4 positive 4 week old kittens and lost all 4 of > > them. Mattie who was blind made it the longest to about 16 months. I > had > > adopted 2 positive kittens from a nearby rescue group and lost them after > > just a few months to FIP. I had earlier rescued 2 positive kittens, > about > 4 > > month old. I only have Rocket left. She is just over 3 now and is > starting > > to show signs of the disease. > > > > The heartbreak doesn't get any easier. The thought that keeps me going > is > > they had a good life for as long as they were on this earth. They were > > loved and cared for. So many wonderful kitties don't even have that and > > they aren't FeLV kitties. We do what we can with the resources we > > have. And we treasure each day we have these wonderful companions. > > > > Hugs top Murphy and all of you > > Sharyl > > > > --- On Sat, 7/24/10, Alice Flowers wrote: > > > > > From: Alice Flowers > > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more > > > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > > > Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 7:02 PM > > > Terry-thank you for keeping Murphy in > > > your thoughts. He has consistently tested > > > negative for Hemotropic Mycoplasmas. His Absolute > > > Reticulocyte count is now > > > 35200. Both Murphy and Rosie have been on LTCI injections > > > since last September. > > > We began treatment before any symptoms appeared and their > > > HCT levels were in the > > > high 30s, low 40s. I just got the faxes on their blood > > > tests. Murphy's HCT is > > > 22.3, Rosie's is 46.5. I am thinking of giving them another > > > injection tomorrow, > > > the last one was June 27-it will be 28 days-but the other > > > thing is, should I do > > > both cats or just Murphy? Is there such a thing as having a > > > too high HCT level > > > (like Rosie's 46.5)? Just watching my Murphy sleep > > > and hurting because we can't > >
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
The fourth herb is Andrographis. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 12:27 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more Alice, I am so sorry. I was really hoping the LTCI would do it. Pet tinic and epogen and whatever else may help with anemia is usually only a temporary fix. The real problem is the underlying bone marrow deficiency due to infectivity with virus. I have been with this group long enough to have hopes for so many different possibilities. Sometimes they work, sometimes not. I know you have too. I have a long shot. I requested this for Wolfie too, but want to ask you. There is a tonic comprised of four herbs. They are anti-inflammatory, and for cancer. A host of secondary positive effects have been noted with its use including cessation of certain viral infections. It appears to seek out and destroy abnormal cells while leaving healthy ones behind. It also provides an anti-inflammatory which in many settings can be beneficial. It hasn't been used for felv as far as I can tell, but in theory I think it could help. If you are interested I can get you the name of the herbs, where to get them and how to prepare them. It takes time to do it and concentrate it so it may take a week before you have the final product. Let me know what you think. The herbs in graviola, neem and chaparral. The fourth is escaping me right now, but I can find it. God bless and I will pray for you. Jenny On 7/24/10, Sharyl wrote: > > Alice I understand how stressful this is for all of you. Here is a link to > a site that helps explain test results > Broadway Vet BW Explanations > http://tinyurl.com/2ex549 > Just click on the item and open the pdf file. For example it says > moderately elevated HCT could possibly be a sign of dehydration. > > After fighting anemia with a CRF kitty and several FeLV kitties I > understand your frustration. I didn't get alarmed until the HCT fell below > 20%. I did use supplements like NutriVed, Super B Complex. B12 and folic > acid to help them build new red blood cells. > > I rescued a litter of 4 positive 4 week old kittens and lost all 4 of > them. Mattie who was blind made it the longest to about 16 months. I had > adopted 2 positive kittens from a nearby rescue group and lost them after > just a few months to FIP. I had earlier rescued 2 positive kittens, about 4 > month old. I only have Rocket left. She is just over 3 now and is starting > to show signs of the disease. > > The heartbreak doesn't get any easier. The thought that keeps me going is > they had a good life for as long as they were on this earth. They were > loved and cared for. So many wonderful kitties don't even have that and > they aren't FeLV kitties. We do what we can with the resources we > have. And we treasure each day we have these wonderful companions. > > Hugs top Murphy and all of you > Sharyl > > --- On Sat, 7/24/10, Alice Flowers wrote: > > > From: Alice Flowers > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more > > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > > Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 7:02 PM > > Terry-thank you for keeping Murphy in > > your thoughts. He has consistently tested > > negative for Hemotropic Mycoplasmas. His Absolute > > Reticulocyte count is now > > 35200. Both Murphy and Rosie have been on LTCI injections > > since last September. > > We began treatment before any symptoms appeared and their > > HCT levels were in the > > high 30s, low 40s. I just got the faxes on their blood > > tests. Murphy's HCT is > > 22.3, Rosie's is 46.5. I am thinking of giving them another > > injection tomorrow, > > the last one was June 27-it will be 28 days-but the other > > thing is, should I do > > both cats or just Murphy? Is there such a thing as having a > > too high HCT level > > (like Rosie's 46.5)? Just watching my Murphy sleep > > and hurting because we can't > > stop this train wreck. Alice > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
Alice, I am so sorry. I was really hoping the LTCI would do it. Pet tinic and epogen and whatever else may help with anemia is usually only a temporary fix. The real problem is the underlying bone marrow deficiency due to infectivity with virus. I have been with this group long enough to have hopes for so many different possibilities. Sometimes they work, sometimes not. I know you have too. I have a long shot. I requested this for Wolfie too, but want to ask you. There is a tonic comprised of four herbs. They are anti-inflammatory, and for cancer. A host of secondary positive effects have been noted with its use including cessation of certain viral infections. It appears to seek out and destroy abnormal cells while leaving healthy ones behind. It also provides an anti-inflammatory which in many settings can be beneficial. It hasn't been used for felv as far as I can tell, but in theory I think it could help. If you are interested I can get you the name of the herbs, where to get them and how to prepare them. It takes time to do it and concentrate it so it may take a week before you have the final product. Let me know what you think. The herbs in graviola, neem and chaparral. The fourth is escaping me right now, but I can find it. God bless and I will pray for you. Jenny On 7/24/10, Sharyl wrote: > > Alice I understand how stressful this is for all of you. Here is a link to > a site that helps explain test results > Broadway Vet BW Explanations > http://tinyurl.com/2ex549 > Just click on the item and open the pdf file. For example it says > moderately elevated HCT could possibly be a sign of dehydration. > > After fighting anemia with a CRF kitty and several FeLV kitties I > understand your frustration. I didn't get alarmed until the HCT fell below > 20%. I did use supplements like NutriVed, Super B Complex. B12 and folic > acid to help them build new red blood cells. > > I rescued a litter of 4 positive 4 week old kittens and lost all 4 of > them. Mattie who was blind made it the longest to about 16 months. I had > adopted 2 positive kittens from a nearby rescue group and lost them after > just a few months to FIP. I had earlier rescued 2 positive kittens, about 4 > month old. I only have Rocket left. She is just over 3 now and is starting > to show signs of the disease. > > The heartbreak doesn't get any easier. The thought that keeps me going is > they had a good life for as long as they were on this earth. They were > loved and cared for. So many wonderful kitties don't even have that and > they aren't FeLV kitties. We do what we can with the resources we > have. And we treasure each day we have these wonderful companions. > > Hugs top Murphy and all of you > Sharyl > > --- On Sat, 7/24/10, Alice Flowers wrote: > > > From: Alice Flowers > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more > > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > > Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 7:02 PM > > Terry-thank you for keeping Murphy in > > your thoughts. He has consistently tested > > negative for Hemotropic Mycoplasmas. His Absolute > > Reticulocyte count is now > > 35200. Both Murphy and Rosie have been on LTCI injections > > since last September. > > We began treatment before any symptoms appeared and their > > HCT levels were in the > > high 30s, low 40s. I just got the faxes on their blood > > tests. Murphy's HCT is > > 22.3, Rosie's is 46.5. I am thinking of giving them another > > injection tomorrow, > > the last one was June 27-it will be 28 days-but the other > > thing is, should I do > > both cats or just Murphy? Is there such a thing as having a > > too high HCT level > > (like Rosie's 46.5)? Just watching my Murphy sleep > > and hurting because we can't > > stop this train wreck. Alice > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sources forproducts?
It is made by Carrington Labs and was being marketed by VPL, but it is no longer on their website and a search shows their contract with Carrington Labs expired in April. I am going to call Carrington Labs in the morning and see if they have another distributor, I sure hope it is still available. It comes in a box containing four 10 mg containers. The last time my vet ordered it, it was $225, that was his cost. The protocol is 2 mg/KG IP, weekly for 6 weeks and then monthly. The monthly shots can be given sub-q. For those unfamiliar with what IP means, it means through the wall of the abdomen. The instructions say you must use it within 4 hours of mixing it, but the vet who was the technical assistance person for VPL told me any leftover would keep fine in the fridge for a week and for a month in the freezer. Gary -- From: "Alice Flowers" Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 12:06 AM To: Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sources forproducts? Could you describe what the Acemannan (sp?) is and how it's used? Also what are good sources for this and also pettinic? Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sources for products?
Could you describe what the Acemannan (sp?) is and how it's used? Also what are good sources for this and also pettinic? Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
Alice I understand how stressful this is for all of you. Here is a link to a site that helps explain test results Broadway Vet BW Explanations http://tinyurl.com/2ex549 Just click on the item and open the pdf file. For example it says moderately elevated HCT could possibly be a sign of dehydration. After fighting anemia with a CRF kitty and several FeLV kitties I understand your frustration. I didn't get alarmed until the HCT fell below 20%. I did use supplements like NutriVed, Super B Complex. B12 and folic acid to help them build new red blood cells. I rescued a litter of 4 positive 4 week old kittens and lost all 4 of them. Mattie who was blind made it the longest to about 16 months. I had adopted 2 positive kittens from a nearby rescue group and lost them after just a few months to FIP. I had earlier rescued 2 positive kittens, about 4 month old. I only have Rocket left. She is just over 3 now and is starting to show signs of the disease. The heartbreak doesn't get any easier. The thought that keeps me going is they had a good life for as long as they were on this earth. They were loved and cared for. So many wonderful kitties don't even have that and they aren't FeLV kitties. We do what we can with the resources we have. And we treasure each day we have these wonderful companions. Hugs top Murphy and all of you Sharyl --- On Sat, 7/24/10, Alice Flowers wrote: > From: Alice Flowers > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 7:02 PM > Terry-thank you for keeping Murphy in > your thoughts. He has consistently tested > negative for Hemotropic Mycoplasmas. His Absolute > Reticulocyte count is now > 35200. Both Murphy and Rosie have been on LTCI injections > since last September. > We began treatment before any symptoms appeared and their > HCT levels were in the > high 30s, low 40s. I just got the faxes on their blood > tests. Murphy's HCT is > 22.3, Rosie's is 46.5. I am thinking of giving them another > injection tomorrow, > the last one was June 27-it will be 28 days-but the other > thing is, should I do > both cats or just Murphy? Is there such a thing as having a > too high HCT level > (like Rosie's 46.5)? Just watching my Murphy sleep > and hurting because we can't > stop this train wreck. Alice > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
Yes, I forgot about PetTinic. I've never had to use it with my FeLV's, but I have an otherwise healthy girl, SassiCat, who periodically gets anemic and PetTinic clears it up. Terry Natalie wrote: = I've used PetTinic for anemia - works well. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more I had success reversing anemia in two FeLV positive kittens using Acemannan. I can't say it works every time in every situation, but it worked for me on those two. Gary -- From: "Alice Flowers" Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:24 PM To: Subject: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more > Murphy has been sneezing-We took Murphy and Rosie in yesterday for check > ups and > blood work. They did an in house PCV on him because his gums were pale. He > is > anemic at 18.5%. This is the beginning of the end. I had hoped that after > losing > Rosie's 4 brothers last year that we would get a reprieve. I had hoped > that the > vet's rough rule of 1/3 would apply to us since we began with 6. We had > Rosie > and her 5 brothers-and Murphy, the friendly kitten that was tossed into > the > feral colony that we caught Rosie and the boys from after trapping and > neutering > their mother-1/3 of kitties would succumb quickly, 1/3 would die young and > 1/3 > generally live fairly uneventful lives for quite a while. Murphy is > becoming > lethargic at times, sometimes stretching out and sleeping on the floor-not > his > usual pose-he is my eagle, if he isn't on the computer desk next to > me-curled up > in an envelope box (any box will do-he has even tried to squeeze into a > box > barely big enough for his head-LOL)-he is asleep in the spare room-on top > of the > bookcase! He has a talent of springing from the floor and landing in a box > on > top of a 4' cabinet without touching the edges-he is like a little > antelope with > his springy legs. Murphy is the king of cats-I have never been owned by > such an > awesome kitty. He is beautiful with his fluffy, tuxedo coat, huge eyes and > even > huger paws-he has 7 toes on his front feet and 6 on the backs. He can snag > a cat > toy tossed at him like in mid-air like a baseball player and can even pick > up > things using the extra toes like fingers. I cannot believe this is > happening > again. We have begun Procrit, iron supplement and Doxy for the > sneezing/cold > thing he has going on-his lungs are clear, but a little wheezing in his > throat > area. Wish us luck-I am so sad right now and keep tearing up. I can't take > much > more of this disease, so much loss for all of us. Alice and Glenn > (humans), > Rosie and Murphy-furkids ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
Hi Alice, What I like about LTCI is it enhances the immune system as opposed to alot of medicines which "overpower" the disease, with possible side effects. I don't see any practical way to "overdose" LTCI. I give monthly LTCI shots to my healthy FeLV/FIV positives. I'd probably go to once a week for a few weeks if they were showing symptoms like Murphy. If I understand the dosing schedule, the initial period is a "build up" and the monthly is maintenance. But if a cat gets ill, especially an FeLV positive, their immune systems could use the extra "help". If Rosie's blood work hasn't changed, I wouldn't think she would need the boost, but if she is having any symptoms, it couldn't hurt. I'd probably do it, but I believe in aggressively addressing any sign of symptoms in my Felv/FIV positives. Terry Alice Flowers wrote: = Terry-thank you for keeping Murphy in your thoughts. He has consistently tested negative for Hemotropic Mycoplasmas. His Absolute Reticulocyte count is now 35200. Both Murphy and Rosie have been on LTCI injections since last September. We began treatment before any symptoms appeared and their HCT levels were in the high 30s, low 40s. I just got the faxes on their blood tests. Murphy's HCT is 22.3, Rosie's is 46.5. I am thinking of giving them another injection tomorrow, the last one was June 27-it will be 28 days-but the other thing is, should I do both cats or just Murphy? Is there such a thing as having a too high HCT level (like Rosie's 46.5)? Just watching my Murphy sleep and hurting because we can't stop this train wreck. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
I've used PetTinic for anemia - works well. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more I had success reversing anemia in two FeLV positive kittens using Acemannan. I can't say it works every time in every situation, but it worked for me on those two. Gary -- From: "Alice Flowers" Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:24 PM To: Subject: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more > Murphy has been sneezing-We took Murphy and Rosie in yesterday for check > ups and > blood work. They did an in house PCV on him because his gums were pale. He > is > anemic at 18.5%. This is the beginning of the end. I had hoped that after > losing > Rosie's 4 brothers last year that we would get a reprieve. I had hoped > that the > vet's rough rule of 1/3 would apply to us since we began with 6. We had > Rosie > and her 5 brothers-and Murphy, the friendly kitten that was tossed into > the > feral colony that we caught Rosie and the boys from after trapping and > neutering > their mother-1/3 of kitties would succumb quickly, 1/3 would die young and > 1/3 > generally live fairly uneventful lives for quite a while. Murphy is > becoming > lethargic at times, sometimes stretching out and sleeping on the floor-not > his > usual pose-he is my eagle, if he isn't on the computer desk next to > me-curled up > in an envelope box (any box will do-he has even tried to squeeze into a > box > barely big enough for his head-LOL)-he is asleep in the spare room-on top > of the > bookcase! He has a talent of springing from the floor and landing in a box > on > top of a 4' cabinet without touching the edges-he is like a little > antelope with > his springy legs. Murphy is the king of cats-I have never been owned by > such an > awesome kitty. He is beautiful with his fluffy, tuxedo coat, huge eyes and > even > huger paws-he has 7 toes on his front feet and 6 on the backs. He can snag > a cat > toy tossed at him like in mid-air like a baseball player and can even pick > up > things using the extra toes like fingers. I cannot believe this is > happening > again. We have begun Procrit, iron supplement and Doxy for the > sneezing/cold > thing he has going on-his lungs are clear, but a little wheezing in his > throat > area. Wish us luck-I am so sad right now and keep tearing up. I can't take > much > more of this disease, so much loss for all of us. Alice and Glenn > (humans), > Rosie and Murphy-furkids ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
Terry-thank you for keeping Murphy in your thoughts. He has consistently tested negative for Hemotropic Mycoplasmas. His Absolute Reticulocyte count is now 35200. Both Murphy and Rosie have been on LTCI injections since last September. We began treatment before any symptoms appeared and their HCT levels were in the high 30s, low 40s. I just got the faxes on their blood tests. Murphy's HCT is 22.3, Rosie's is 46.5. I am thinking of giving them another injection tomorrow, the last one was June 27-it will be 28 days-but the other thing is, should I do both cats or just Murphy? Is there such a thing as having a too high HCT level (like Rosie's 46.5)? Just watching my Murphy sleep and hurting because we can't stop this train wreck. Alice ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
Mega-vibes for Murphy and hugs to you, Alice and Glenn. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Alice Flowers Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more Murphy has been sneezing-We took Murphy and Rosie in yesterday for check ups and blood work. They did an in house PCV on him because his gums were pale. He is anemic at 18.5%. This is the beginning of the end. I had hoped that after losing Rosie's 4 brothers last year that we would get a reprieve. I had hoped that the vet's rough rule of 1/3 would apply to us since we began with 6. We had Rosie and her 5 brothers-and Murphy, the friendly kitten that was tossed into the feral colony that we caught Rosie and the boys from after trapping and neutering their mother-1/3 of kitties would succumb quickly, 1/3 would die young and 1/3 generally live fairly uneventful lives for quite a while. Murphy is becoming lethargic at times, sometimes stretching out and sleeping on the floor-not his usual pose-he is my eagle, if he isn't on the computer desk next to me-curled up in an envelope box (any box will do-he has even tried to squeeze into a box barely big enough for his head-LOL)-he is asleep in the spare room-on top of the bookcase! He has a talent of springing from the floor and landing in a box on top of a 4' cabinet without touching the edges-he is like a little antelope with his springy legs. Murphy is the king of cats-I have never been owned by such an awesome kitty. He is beautiful with his fluffy, tuxedo coat, huge eyes and even huger paws-he has 7 toes on his front feet and 6 on the backs. He can snag a cat toy tossed at him like in mid-air like a baseball player and can even pick up things using the extra toes like fingers. I cannot believe this is happening again. We have begun Procrit, iron supplement and Doxy for the sneezing/cold thing he has going on-his lungs are clear, but a little wheezing in his throat area. Wish us luck-I am so sad right now and keep tearing up. I can't take much more of this disease, so much loss for all of us. Alice and Glenn (humans), Rosie and Murphy-furkids ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
I had success reversing anemia in two FeLV positive kittens using Acemannan. I can't say it works every time in every situation, but it worked for me on those two. Gary -- From: "Alice Flowers" Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:24 PM To: Subject: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more Murphy has been sneezing-We took Murphy and Rosie in yesterday for check ups and blood work. They did an in house PCV on him because his gums were pale. He is anemic at 18.5%. This is the beginning of the end. I had hoped that after losing Rosie's 4 brothers last year that we would get a reprieve. I had hoped that the vet's rough rule of 1/3 would apply to us since we began with 6. We had Rosie and her 5 brothers-and Murphy, the friendly kitten that was tossed into the feral colony that we caught Rosie and the boys from after trapping and neutering their mother-1/3 of kitties would succumb quickly, 1/3 would die young and 1/3 generally live fairly uneventful lives for quite a while. Murphy is becoming lethargic at times, sometimes stretching out and sleeping on the floor-not his usual pose-he is my eagle, if he isn't on the computer desk next to me-curled up in an envelope box (any box will do-he has even tried to squeeze into a box barely big enough for his head-LOL)-he is asleep in the spare room-on top of the bookcase! He has a talent of springing from the floor and landing in a box on top of a 4' cabinet without touching the edges-he is like a little antelope with his springy legs. Murphy is the king of cats-I have never been owned by such an awesome kitty. He is beautiful with his fluffy, tuxedo coat, huge eyes and even huger paws-he has 7 toes on his front feet and 6 on the backs. He can snag a cat toy tossed at him like in mid-air like a baseball player and can even pick up things using the extra toes like fingers. I cannot believe this is happening again. We have begun Procrit, iron supplement and Doxy for the sneezing/cold thing he has going on-his lungs are clear, but a little wheezing in his throat area. Wish us luck-I am so sad right now and keep tearing up. I can't take much more of this disease, so much loss for all of us. Alice and Glenn (humans), Rosie and Murphy-furkids ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
Oh Alice my heart is sad right along with you.My thoughts and prayers are with you all. Sherry Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Alice Flowers Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:24:16 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more Murphy has been sneezing-We took Murphy and Rosie in yesterday for check ups and blood work. They did an in house PCV on him because his gums were pale. He is anemic at 18.5%. This is the beginning of the end. I had hoped that after losing Rosie's 4 brothers last year that we would get a reprieve. I had hoped that the vet's rough rule of 1/3 would apply to us since we began with 6. We had Rosie and her 5 brothers-and Murphy, the friendly kitten that was tossed into the feral colony that we caught Rosie and the boys from after trapping and neutering their mother-1/3 of kitties would succumb quickly, 1/3 would die young and 1/3 generally live fairly uneventful lives for quite a while. Murphy is becoming lethargic at times, sometimes stretching out and sleeping on the floor-not his usual pose-he is my eagle, if he isn't on the computer desk next to me-curled up in an envelope box (any box will do-he has even tried to squeeze into a box barely big enough for his head-LOL)-he is asleep in the spare room-on top of the bookcase! He has a talent of springing from the floor and landing in a box on top of a 4' cabinet without touching the edges-he is like a little antelope with his springy legs. Murphy is the king of cats-I have never been owned by such an awesome kitty. He is beautiful with his fluffy, tuxedo coat, huge eyes and even huger paws-he has 7 toes on his front feet and 6 on the backs. He can snag a cat toy tossed at him like in mid-air like a baseball player and can even pick up things using the extra toes like fingers. I cannot believe this is happening again. We have begun Procrit, iron supplement and Doxy for the sneezing/cold thing he has going on-his lungs are clear, but a little wheezing in his throat area. Wish us luck-I am so sad right now and keep tearing up. I can't take much more of this disease, so much loss for all of us. Alice and Glenn (humans), Rosie and Murphy-furkids ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
Murphy has been sneezing-We took Murphy and Rosie in yesterday for check ups and blood work. They did an in house PCV on him because his gums were pale. He is anemic at 18.5%. This is the beginning of the end. I had hoped that after losing Rosie's 4 brothers last year that we would get a reprieve. I had hoped that the vet's rough rule of 1/3 would apply to us since we began with 6. We had Rosie and her 5 brothers-and Murphy, the friendly kitten that was tossed into the feral colony that we caught Rosie and the boys from after trapping and neutering their mother-1/3 of kitties would succumb quickly, 1/3 would die young and 1/3 generally live fairly uneventful lives for quite a while. Murphy is becoming lethargic at times, sometimes stretching out and sleeping on the floor-not his usual pose-he is my eagle, if he isn't on the computer desk next to me-curled up in an envelope box (any box will do-he has even tried to squeeze into a box barely big enough for his head-LOL)-he is asleep in the spare room-on top of the bookcase! He has a talent of springing from the floor and landing in a box on top of a 4' cabinet without touching the edges-he is like a little antelope with his springy legs. Murphy is the king of cats-I have never been owned by such an awesome kitty. He is beautiful with his fluffy, tuxedo coat, huge eyes and even huger paws-he has 7 toes on his front feet and 6 on the backs. He can snag a cat toy tossed at him like in mid-air like a baseball player and can even pick up things using the extra toes like fingers. I cannot believe this is happening again. We have begun Procrit, iron supplement and Doxy for the sneezing/cold thing he has going on-his lungs are clear, but a little wheezing in his throat area. Wish us luck-I am so sad right now and keep tearing up. I can't take much more of this disease, so much loss for all of us. Alice and Glenn (humans), Rosie and Murphy-furkids ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
