Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Have you tried playing with her? I always collect goose feathers when they molt and tape on or two to the end of a long stick and use it to stroke feral cats. At first, they hiss and swat at the feather (depending on their socialization and tolerance), and eventually, they enjoy it...I stroke them along the side of the face at first, then top of the head and back toward the tail. I have a very good short article on phases of touching, when you eventually get to that point. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Thanks, Gloria. I guess regular vets don't clip the ear because people would freak out about how their cat looks. Forgotten Felines, our local TNR organization (filled with Angels, by the way) did clip her ear. She's now on my porch (we're having a cool summer, oddly enough) and seems okay. I am beginning to really like her. Tonight I sat out in the beautiful, nearly full moon evening, drinking a beer and singing to her (I make up a song for all my cats -- this one was about how Hemy had a hard life but came through alright anyway and now things are better). I'll feel better is she won't shun me -- right now she turns her back on me or hisses, letting me know just how mad she is about this whole thing. Poor darling! Tonight I tried to buy her love with canned food. We'll see how that goes! ~B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma If you put the kitty in a cage or secure porch or outbuilding for a couple of weeks, she will learn where she gets her food, where home is, and hopefully stay around. Course this depends on your having the right weather, or a porch with the right temperature and protection, etc. You might also be able to find someone who takes outdoor cats, who will do the same thing, to keep kitty put up for a while so that she learns where home is. I gather they didn't eartip to show that kitty was altered, unfortunately. Good luck with your kitty - Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Try spraying Feliway on you. It worked with the Royal Princess Kitty Katt. On Aug 13, 2011, at 12:21 AM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Thanks, Gloria. I guess regular vets don't clip the ear because people would freak out about how their cat looks. Forgotten Felines, our local TNR organization (filled with Angels, by the way) did clip her ear. She's now on my porch (we're having a cool summer, oddly enough) and seems okay. I am beginning to really like her. Tonight I sat out in the beautiful, nearly full moon evening, drinking a beer and singing to her (I make up a song for all my cats -- this one was about how Hemy had a hard life but came through alright anyway and now things are better). I'll feel better is she won't shun me -- right now she turns her back on me or hisses, letting me know just how mad she is about this whole thing. Poor darling! Tonight I tried to buy her love with canned food. We'll see how that goes! ~B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma If you put the kitty in a cage or secure porch or outbuilding for a couple of weeks, she will learn where she gets her food, where home is, and hopefully stay around. Course this depends on your having the right weather, or a porch with the right temperature and protection, etc. You might also be able to find someone who takes outdoor cats, who will do the same thing, to keep kitty put up for a while so that she learns where home is. I gather they didn't eartip to show that kitty was altered, unfortunately. Good luck with your kitty - Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Also might consider leaving a radio on (low volume please) or a tape recording of your voice. On Aug 13, 2011, at 2:18 AM, Natalie wrote: Have you tried playing with her? I always collect goose feathers when they molt and tape on or two to the end of a long stick and use it to stroke feral cats. At first, they hiss and swat at the feather (depending on their socialization and tolerance), and eventually, they enjoy it...I stroke them along the side of the face at first, then top of the head and back toward the tail. I have a very good short article on phases of touching, when you eventually get to that point. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 1:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Thanks, Gloria. I guess regular vets don't clip the ear because people would freak out about how their cat looks. Forgotten Felines, our local TNR organization (filled with Angels, by the way) did clip her ear. She's now on my porch (we're having a cool summer, oddly enough) and seems okay. I am beginning to really like her. Tonight I sat out in the beautiful, nearly full moon evening, drinking a beer and singing to her (I make up a song for all my cats -- this one was about how Hemy had a hard life but came through alright anyway and now things are better). I'll feel better is she won't shun me -- right now she turns her back on me or hisses, letting me know just how mad she is about this whole thing. Poor darling! Tonight I tried to buy her love with canned food. We'll see how that goes! ~B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma If you put the kitty in a cage or secure porch or outbuilding for a couple of weeks, she will learn where she gets her food, where home is, and hopefully stay around. Course this depends on your having the right weather, or a porch with the right temperature and protection, etc. You might also be able to find someone who takes outdoor cats, who will do the same thing, to keep kitty put up for a while so that she learns where home is. I gather they didn't eartip to show that kitty was altered, unfortunately. Good luck with your kitty - Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Sounds like a good start! Are you doing the eye contact stuff -- not staring, doing the slow blink etc.? The future enclosure sounds like a great idea. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Thanks, Gloria. I guess regular vets don't clip the ear because people would freak out about how their cat looks. Forgotten Felines, our local TNR organization (filled with Angels, by the way) did clip her ear. She's now on my porch (we're having a cool summer, oddly enough) and seems okay. I am beginning to really like her. Tonight I sat out in the beautiful, nearly full moon evening, drinking a beer and singing to her (I make up a song for all my cats -- this one was about how Hemy had a hard life but came through alright anyway and now things are better). I'll feel better is she won't shun me -- right now she turns her back on me or hisses, letting me know just how mad she is about this whole thing. Poor darling! Tonight I tried to buy her love with canned food. We'll see how that goes! ~B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma If you put the kitty in a cage or secure porch or outbuilding for a couple of weeks, she will learn where she gets her food, where home is, and hopefully stay around. Course this depends on your having the right weather, or a porch with the right temperature and protection, etc. You might also be able to find someone who takes outdoor cats, who will do the same thing, to keep kitty put up for a while so that she learns where home is. I gather they didn't eartip to show that kitty was altered, unfortunately. Good luck with your kitty - Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Well clipping the ear is for ferals, so not for domestics that folks are taking constant care of. Regular vets prob don't deal w that much. There are only certain vets that we can take ferals to, others won't deal with them. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com wrote: Sounds like a good start! Are you doing the eye contact stuff -- not staring, doing the slow blink etc.? The future enclosure sounds like a great idea. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Thanks, Gloria. I guess regular vets don't clip the ear because people would freak out about how their cat looks. Forgotten Felines, our local TNR organization (filled with Angels, by the way) did clip her ear. She's now on my porch (we're having a cool summer, oddly enough) and seems okay. I am beginning to really like her. Tonight I sat out in the beautiful, nearly full moon evening, drinking a beer and singing to her (I make up a song for all my cats -- this one was about how Hemy had a hard life but came through alright anyway and now things are better). I'll feel better is she won't shun me -- right now she turns her back on me or hisses, letting me know just how mad she is about this whole thing. Poor darling! Tonight I tried to buy her love with canned food. We'll see how that goes! ~B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma If you put the kitty in a cage or secure porch or outbuilding for a couple of weeks, she will learn where she gets her food, where home is, and hopefully stay around. Course this depends on your having the right weather, or a porch with the right temperature and protection, etc. You might also be able to find someone who takes outdoor cats, who will do the same thing, to keep kitty put up for a while so that she learns where home is. I gather they didn't eartip to show that kitty was altered, unfortunately. Good luck with your kitty - Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
We have one cat from NJ that has a tiny earring at the base of the ear, and
another cat from NY that has a tattoo ('04) inside the ear, when he was
neutered.
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Well clipping the ear is for ferals, so not for domestics that folks are
taking constant care of. Regular vets prob don't deal w that much. There are
only certain vets that we can take ferals to, others won't deal with them.
Gloria
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
wrote:
Sounds like a good start! Are you doing the eye contact stuff -- not
staring, doing the slow blink etc.? The future enclosure sounds like a
great idea.
Diane R.
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:22 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Thanks, Gloria.
I guess regular vets don't clip the ear because people would freak out
about how their cat looks. Forgotten Felines, our local TNR organization
(filled with Angels, by the way) did clip her ear.
She's now on my porch (we're having a cool summer, oddly enough) and seems
okay. I am beginning to really like her. Tonight I sat out in the
beautiful, nearly full moon evening, drinking a beer and singing to her (I
make up a song for all my cats -- this one was about how Hemy had a hard
life but came through alright anyway and now things are better). I'll
feel
better is she won't shun me -- right now she turns her back on me or
hisses, letting me know just how mad she is about this whole thing. Poor
darling! Tonight I tried to buy her love with canned food. We'll see how
that goes!
~B.
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
If you put the kitty in a cage or secure porch or outbuilding for a couple
of weeks, she will learn where she gets her food, where home is, and
hopefully stay around. Course this depends on your having the right
weather, or a porch with the right temperature and protection, etc.
You might also be able to find someone who takes outdoor cats, who will do
the same thing, to keep kitty put up for a while so that she learns where
home is. I gather they didn't eartip to show that kitty was altered,
unfortunately.
Good luck with your kitty -
Gloria
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I like the ideaof a tattoo in the ear. What does it say? How would one know
the cat has been spayed/neuterd and when? Does it give name of owner or vet?
Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
We have one cat from NJ that has a tiny earring at the base of the ear, and
another cat from NY that has a tattoo ('04) inside the ear, when he was
neutered.
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria Lane
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 10:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Well clipping the ear is for ferals, so not for domestics that folks are
taking constant care of. Regular vets prob don't deal w that much. There are
only certain vets that we can take ferals to, others won't deal with them.
Gloria
Sent from my iPhone
On Aug 13, 2011, at 7:08 AM, Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
wrote:
Sounds like a good start! Are you doing the eye contact stuff -- not
staring, doing the slow blink etc.? The future enclosure sounds like a
great idea.
Diane R.
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2011 12:22 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
Thanks, Gloria.
I guess regular vets don't clip the ear because people would freak out
about how their cat looks. Forgotten Felines, our local TNR organization
(filled with Angels, by the way) did clip her ear.
She's now on my porch (we're having a cool summer, oddly enough) and seems
okay. I am beginning to really like her. Tonight I sat out in the
beautiful, nearly full moon evening, drinking a beer and singing to her (I
make up a song for all my cats -- this one was about how Hemy had a hard
life but came through alright anyway and now things are better). I'll
feel
better is she won't shun me -- right now she turns her back on me or
hisses, letting me know just how mad she is about this whole thing. Poor
darling! Tonight I tried to buy her love with canned food. We'll see how
that goes!
~B.
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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:19 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma
If you put the kitty in a cage or secure porch or outbuilding for a couple
of weeks, she will learn where she gets her food, where home is, and
hopefully stay around. Course this depends on your having the right
weather, or a porch with the right temperature and protection, etc.
You might also be able to find someone who takes outdoor cats, who will do
the same thing, to keep kitty put up for a while so that she learns where
home is. I gather they didn't eartip to show that kitty was altered,
unfortunately.
Good luck with your kitty -
Gloria
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I followed up at the clinic yesterday: their policy is to scan each cat for a chip when they come in. This one was scanned and nothing found. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:49 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Yep my thoughts exactly, there just is no end to the weird situations that come up. Had one where the chip contact info was all outdated (phones didn't work, moved, etc.), kept doing internet searches Yahoo suggested a different spelling of the last name--name had been spelled incorrectly on the chip records. Still were skeptical as the cat was found at a very obvious/common dumping spot, but turned out the chip info was from the original owner (just last name spelled wrong but I located once Yahoo figured that part out) who had adopted the cat to a friend a year prior...friend dumped the cat, to the original owner's shock (and showed no remorse when contacted)...orig. owner felt horrible and took the kitty back. Have had more than one where I was only able to find the owner, in situations where it was a very, very old cat (18+, 2 cases like this) but chip not registered/contact info not up to date, by asking the chip company where the cat was chipped (unfortunately, the representatives don't always offer this info up unless you ask but it can be the missing link) or by guessing the family vet by the registered address calling the vet who either knew the cat or was able to look up the people's name. Found 2 owners that way. It sucks people don't keep chip info up to date but have seen every very good homes go through divorce or other change and forget to do so. I agree, sounds like this kitty has been on the streets a while, still best to scan for chip do homework just in case And remember there is a universal microchip lookup website. I have also had chips we scanned ourselves, gave us the chip # and said petlink with a ph# (or other company), that company had no record...but turned out people registered with another company. As a rescuer, I have been very frustrated by these experiences as it tells me the average joe cat finder won't know/think to try all these things which makes finding owners even harder...this happened to me once where the chip info WAS up to date, but, registered to AKC and not coming up via other searches (including the company/ph# that came up on the scanner when we scanned the chip). Sorry to go on, it's a peeve of mine:-) On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: I do lost/found work for a couple of shelters you have no idea how far animals wander. A chip got a cat home that had disappeared months ago from its home about 10 miles away. Thing is sometimes, people pick up strays, bring them home, and then lose or dump them again-now even further from home. Its ALWAYS worth scanning, and checking with your local shelter maybe taking a look at craig's list-though in this case, it sounds like the cat's been out there for a couple of years. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's pet. some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were sweet once we got our hands on them. Was she scanned for a chip? I would definitely do this. She may of course be abandoned but also could be displaced/lost. Most of the chipped cats I find do not have up to date contact info and I've had to do detective work, but because the chip info isn't up to date doesn't always mean the cat doesn't have someone who loves misses it. So many don't have/need homes, it is worth the effort I believe...most turn out to be deadbeat owners, but there could be a kid in the family who's been crying for months over their lost pet--I have had this situation before where we really didn't think the cat had a good home, one never knows. I say this knowing that most do end up being deadbeatsbut, not always, or at least, there might be one person in the family who does care and deserves to know the kitty is alive and have a chance to claim. Just thoughts, I've had recent situations in this regard--please pardon if I missed something that clearly indicated the cat was abandoned (like people just moved out, etc.). Good luck and thank you for helping her!! On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do. Place her in a room in the house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite
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I never thought of checking for chips. We have so many unwanted babies around here. Everyone wants to let their Moma have babies for the kids sake or say it costs too much to spay them. Then when they get pregnant, they take them out and dump them, let them fend for themselves or kill them. Only since PALS started up (guess they never had a place to take them before) have peple been turning them in so they could find a home. I usually end up keeping them and once I have taken them for shots and spaying/neutering, they are mine. It costs around $200.00 for all that and also by that time I am attached to them and do't want to let go of them. Can't take them to PALS because they and all the foster parents are loaded up. We have had a lot of people loosing their homes, can't have animals in their new (usually rental) home so they bring them to PALS. All of the no kill rescues are over crowded because of this. It is a bad situation and I don't see an end in the near future so we have to start looking for a new solution. Well, an old one called spay or neuter. Just have to get people to do it. Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: I do lost/found work for a couple of shelters you have no idea how far animals wander. A chip got a cat home that had disappeared months ago from its home about 10 miles away. Thing is sometimes, people pick up strays, bring them home, and then lose or dump them again-now even further from home. Its ALWAYS worth scanning, and checking with your local shelter maybe taking a look at craig's list-though in this case, it sounds like the cat's been out there for a couple of years. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's pet. some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were sweet once we got our hands on them. Was she scanned for a chip? I would definitely do this. She may of course be abandoned but also could be displaced/lost. Most of the chipped cats I find do not have up to date contact info and I've had to do detective work, but because the chip info isn't up to date doesn't always mean the cat doesn't have someone who loves misses it. So many don't have/need homes, it is worth the effort I believe...most turn out to be deadbeat owners, but there could be a kid in the family who's been crying for months over their lost pet--I have had this situation before where we really didn't think the cat had a good home, one never knows. I say this knowing that most do end up being deadbeatsbut, not always, or at least, there might be one person in the family who does care and deserves to know the kitty is alive and have a chance to claim. Just thoughts, I've had recent situations in this regard--please pardon if I missed something that clearly indicated the cat was abandoned (like people just moved out, etc.). Good luck and thank you for helping her!! On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do. Place her in a room in the house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly, simply scared. If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :( _ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 + From: merrykatme...@email.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. If you decide to name her - use her name over over when you go in to feed her. Praise her for being a smart strong kitty. etc. Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells from inside. That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings won't be so apt to bolt or run off. Good luck! It will be worth the time the effort!!! Kat (Mew Jersey) - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM To: felvtalk
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I know a cat who was reunited with her person after 2-1/2 years because of a microchip. Always worth scanning, just in case. (I'm in California though. All the rescues chip animals before adoption here. I'm sure other parts of the country do no.) --- On Fri, 8/12/11, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, August 12, 2011, 1:10 PM I never thought of checking for chips. We have so many unwanted babies around here. Everyone wants to let their Moma have babies for the kids sake or say it costs too much to spay them. Then when they get pregnant, they take them out and dump them, let them fend for themselves or kill them. Only since PALS started up (guess they never had a place to take them before) have peple been turning them in so they could find a home. I usually end up keeping them and once I have taken them for shots and spaying/neutering, they are mine. It costs around $200.00 for all that and also by that time I am attached to them and do't want to let go of them. Can't take them to PALS because they and all the foster parents are loaded up. We have had a lot of people loosing their homes, can't have animals in their new (usually rental) home so they bring them to PALS. All of the no kill rescues are over crowded because of this. It is a bad situation and I don't see an end in the near future so we have to start looking for a new solution. Well, an old one called spay or neuter. Just have to get people to do it. Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: I do lost/found work for a couple of shelters you have no idea how far animals wander. A chip got a cat home that had disappeared months ago from its home about 10 miles away. Thing is sometimes, people pick up strays, bring them home, and then lose or dump them again-now even further from home. Its ALWAYS worth scanning, and checking with your local shelter maybe taking a look at craig's list-though in this case, it sounds like the cat's been out there for a couple of years. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's pet. some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were sweet once we got our hands on them. Was she scanned for a chip? I would definitely do this. She may of course be abandoned but also could be displaced/lost. Most of the chipped cats I find do not have up to date contact info and I've had to do detective work, but because the chip info isn't up to date doesn't always mean the cat doesn't have someone who loves misses it. So many don't have/need homes, it is worth the effort I believe...most turn out to be deadbeat owners, but there could be a kid in the family who's been crying for months over their lost pet--I have had this situation before where we really didn't think the cat had a good home, one never knows. I say this knowing that most do end up being deadbeatsbut, not always, or at least, there might be one person in the family who does care and deserves to know the kitty is alive and have a chance to claim. Just thoughts, I've had recent situations in this regard--please pardon if I missed something that clearly indicated the cat was abandoned (like people just moved out, etc.). Good luck and thank you for helping her!! On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do. Place her in a room in the house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly, simply scared. If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :( _ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 + From: merrykatme...@email.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used
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CHANGE IS HARD Every time a new cat comes in, everyone gets their nose out of joint. They hide, do a lot of hissing and slapping and get angry with me. They won't come near me and act like I am traitor. This goes on for a week or 2 and then all settle down. Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Boy, I wish I could do this…but my aunt’s other cat, Princess (“Chirper” as I call her for her chirping meow) is in the spare room now. And the other cats go into the garage (their litter boxes are there and there is a cat door between house and attached garage). But good suggestion. It’s amazing, but my four other house cats “know” something is going on. And I just brought Princess over about a week ago. Yesterday I started moving some furniture (unrelated) and my one cat freaked out and hid in the garage for hours. I think change is hard on them…or maybe I’m projecting ;-) Thanks for the great suggestions! ~B. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of kathryn mundell Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. If you decide to name her - use her name over over when you go in to feed her. Praise her for being a smart strong kitty. etc. Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells from inside. That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings won't be so apt to bolt or run off. Good luck! It will be worth the time the effort!!! Kat (Mew Jersey) - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Around here, they know that eventually, they must get along, and they DO. They may not all be bosom buddies, but they respect one another's turf! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 5:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma CHANGE IS HARD Every time a new cat comes in, everyone gets their nose out of joint. They hide, do a lot of hissing and slapping and get angry with me. They won't come near me and act like I am traitor. This goes on for a week or 2 and then all settle down. Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Boy, I wish I could do this…but my aunt’s other cat, Princess (“Chirper” as I call her for her chirping meow) is in the spare room now. And the other cats go into the garage (their litter boxes are there and there is a cat door between house and attached garage). But good suggestion. It’s amazing, but my four other house cats “know” something is going on. And I just brought Princess over about a week ago. Yesterday I started moving some furniture (unrelated) and my one cat freaked out and hid in the garage for hours. I think change is hard on them…or maybe I’m projecting ;-) Thanks for the great suggestions! ~B. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of kathryn mundell Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. If you decide to name her - use her name over over when you go in to feed her. Praise her for being a smart strong kitty. etc. Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells from inside. That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings won't be so apt to bolt or run off. Good luck! It will be worth the time the effort!!! Kat (Mew Jersey) - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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If you put the kitty in a cage or secure porch or outbuilding for a couple of weeks, she will learn where she gets her food, where home is, and hopefully stay around. Course this depends on your having the right weather, or a porch with the right temperature and protection, etc. You might also be able to find someone who takes outdoor cats, who will do the same thing, to keep kitty put up for a while so that she learns where home is. I gather they didn't eartip to show that kitty was altered, unfortunately. Good luck with your kitty - Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks, Gloria. I guess regular vets don't clip the ear because people would freak out about how their cat looks. Forgotten Felines, our local TNR organization (filled with Angels, by the way) did clip her ear. She's now on my porch (we're having a cool summer, oddly enough) and seems okay. I am beginning to really like her. Tonight I sat out in the beautiful, nearly full moon evening, drinking a beer and singing to her (I make up a song for all my cats -- this one was about how Hemy had a hard life but came through alright anyway and now things are better). I'll feel better is she won't shun me -- right now she turns her back on me or hisses, letting me know just how mad she is about this whole thing. Poor darling! Tonight I tried to buy her love with canned food. We'll see how that goes! ~B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma If you put the kitty in a cage or secure porch or outbuilding for a couple of weeks, she will learn where she gets her food, where home is, and hopefully stay around. Course this depends on your having the right weather, or a porch with the right temperature and protection, etc. You might also be able to find someone who takes outdoor cats, who will do the same thing, to keep kitty put up for a while so that she learns where home is. I gather they didn't eartip to show that kitty was altered, unfortunately. Good luck with your kitty - Gloria ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I'm literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a feral living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her! So here's the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I would say, check with your local Petsmart of Petco and ask the rescues if they have room for an abandoned, already spayed cat. If none of their fosters have room, perhaps they have a foster your own pet (FYOP) program, and you can find her a forever home. The rescue group I work with has FYOP, and can sometimes even provide a large kennel/cage to keep the cat separate from your own clowder. Hope this helps. =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^= - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hoguemailto:ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:05 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I'm literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a feral living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her! So here's the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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A little more info. She's in the trap, where the FF people said she should stay until morning which it is. She had a problem with her tail, so part of that had to be amputated. They said it went really well and she didn't bleed much which is good. They advised the bandage would just come off in time. She's a big Himalyan girl with blue eyes. A very striking cat. Oh, and she has a cleft pallet which I've never seen in a kitty before. I want to do the best thing for her. Again, your help is appreciated. ~B. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Importance: High Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I'm literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a feral living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her! So here's the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That's sad - why would they want her to stay in the trap? That's no way to keep a cat that is friendly. Check with a species specific rescue - maybe they would take this poor cat. No, she cannot be just dumped out there again. A bathroom, garage, basement would be a better fate than that until a real home can be found. But take her out of that trap.was the tail damaged by a trap? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Importance: High A little more info. She's in the trap, where the FF people said she should stay until morning which it is. She had a problem with her tail, so part of that had to be amputated. They said it went really well and she didn't bleed much which is good. They advised the bandage would just come off in time. She's a big Himalyan girl with blue eyes. A very striking cat. Oh, and she has a cleft pallet which I've never seen in a kitty before. I want to do the best thing for her. Again, your help is appreciated. ~B. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Importance: High Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I'm literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a feral living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her! So here's the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Bonnie, I would take her to your place, feed her right away so she knows that is your intention. Also make sure she know your aunt's cat is there with you, she is and has been aware of that cat while she was at your aunts and it will give her some familiarity and may help keep her there. Don't be discouraged if at first she disappears for a few days, she will want to check out her new neighborhood. Just keep putting food out and in your mind picture her living there and welcome. Hopefully she will decided survival is more important than territory. On 8/11/2011 6:05 AM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. If you decide to name her - use her name over over when you go in to feed her. Praise her for being a smart strong kitty. etc. Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells from inside. That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings won't be so apt to bolt or run off. Good luck! It will be worth the time the effort!!! Kat (Mew Jersey) - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Natalie The folks at Forgotten Felines said to leave the cats in the trap overnight due to having had anesthetic. She has been real rummy and quiet. She let me put food in with her, but didn't eat it. Yes, it's time to get her out of there now that the sun is coming up. And thanks for your inputs. I won't just open the trap and say good luck. I'm now trying to locate a larger kennel-type thing to get her acclimated to my yard. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:18 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma That's sad - why would they want her to stay in the trap? That's no way to keep a cat that is friendly. Check with a species specific rescue - maybe they would take this poor cat. No, she cannot be just dumped out there again. A bathroom, garage, basement would be a better fate than that until a real home can be found. But take her out of that trap.was the tail damaged by a trap? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:12 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Importance: High A little more info. She's in the trap, where the FF people said she should stay until morning which it is. She had a problem with her tail, so part of that had to be amputated. They said it went really well and she didn't bleed much which is good. They advised the bandage would just come off in time. She's a big Himalyan girl with blue eyes. A very striking cat. Oh, and she has a cleft pallet which I've never seen in a kitty before. I want to do the best thing for her. Again, your help is appreciated. ~B. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Importance: High Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I'm literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a feral living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her! So here's the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Great idea! On 8/11/2011 6:19 AM, kathryn mundell wrote: Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. If you decide to name her - use her name over over when you go in to feed her. Praise her for being a smart strong kitty. etc. Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells from inside. That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings won't be so apt to bolt or run off. Good luck! It will be worth the time the effort!!! Kat (Mew Jersey) -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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When I re-locate ferals I set them up in a big dog crate in the are I will be releasing them in for 2 weeks minimum. That way the know where they are going to be fed. Make sure you feed them where the crate was. They have always stayed around once freed. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:05 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Boy, I wish I could do this…but my aunt’s other cat, Princess (“Chirper” as I call her for her chirping meow) is in the spare room now. And the other cats go into the garage (their litter boxes are there and there is a cat door between house and attached garage). But good suggestion. It’s amazing, but my four other house cats “know” something is going on. And I just brought Princess over about a week ago. Yesterday I started moving some furniture (unrelated) and my one cat freaked out and hid in the garage for hours. I think change is hard on them…or maybe I’m projecting ;-) Thanks for the great suggestions! ~B. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of kathryn mundell Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. If you decide to name her - use her name over over when you go in to feed her. Praise her for being a smart strong kitty. etc. Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells from inside. That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings won't be so apt to bolt or run off. Good luck! It will be worth the time the effort!!! Kat (Mew Jersey) - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Beth, I think this is going to have to be the answer. Now the question…where to get the crate. Those darn things are expensive. I’m working on that now. I’d hate to plunk out another $125….but guess I could gift it back to Forgotten Felines when finished. I can’t say enough good about that organization. They spay/neuter about 80 cats a week. Bless them! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:26 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma When I re-locate ferals I set them up in a big dog crate in the are I will be releasing them in for 2 weeks minimum. That way the know where they are going to be fed. Make sure you feed them where the crate was. They have always stayed around once freed. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:05 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Not at my computer but there are sites that talk about rehoming ferals. Best I can rember is to somehow contain cat in garage or big pen for 2 or 3 weeks n when I let it loose, it knows that this is the place for food. Mayne try alley cat alleys. Christiane Biagi Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I'm literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a feral living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her! So here's the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sometimes local shelter has xtras from people who dump animals. If u buy new, theres one site thay I got 42 midwest crate frim fir around 70. Will look up n send on to u Christiane Biagi Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: Beth, I think this is going to have to be the answer. Now the question…where to get the crate. Those darn things are expensive. I’m working on that now. I’d hate to plunk out another $125….but guess I could gift it back to Forgotten Felines when finished. I can’t say enough good about that organization. They spay/neuter about 80 cats a week. Bless them! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:26 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma When I re-locate ferals I set them up in a big dog crate in the are I will be releasing them in for 2 weeks minimum. That way the know where they are going to be fed. Make sure you feed them where the crate was. They have always stayed around once freed. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:05 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Is this a really feral cat? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Beth, I think this is going to have to be the answer. Now the question…where to get the crate. Those darn things are expensive. I’m working on that now. I’d hate to plunk out another $125….but guess I could gift it back to Forgotten Felines when finished. I can’t say enough good about that organization. They spay/neuter about 80 cats a week. Bless them! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:26 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma When I re-locate ferals I set them up in a big dog crate in the are I will be releasing them in for 2 weeks minimum. That way the know where they are going to be fed. Make sure you feed them where the crate was. They have always stayed around once freed. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:05 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do. Place her in a room in the house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly, simply scared. If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :( Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 + From: merrykatme...@email.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. If you decide to name her - use her name over over when you go in to feed her. Praise her for being a smart strong kitty. etc. Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells from inside. That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings won't be so apt to bolt or run off. Good luck! It will be worth the time the effort!!! Kat (Mew Jersey) - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That’s a good question… She was “fearful and unfriendly” when she showed up. Ran, wouldn’t let anyone near her. One time my aunt caught her (after months of feeding) and I wanted to get her to the vet. Trying to put her in the carrying cage, she literally shredded my shirt! However, over time she’s grown increasingly friendly, sticks around my aunt’s patio and “even tried to come in the house.” At my aunt’s property, they have tamed two other ferals (and they were ferals). They are Lucky and Princess, who live with me in the house now. My fear was that with her awful looking tail (which is now better) and her cleft pallet, and her stand-offish disposition, the humane society would NOT see her as adoptable and that would end her life. I can’t sentence her to death. So now I have to do what I can to help her. Thanks a million for your thoughts! ~B. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 7:08 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Is this a really feral cat? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Beth, I think this is going to have to be the answer. Now the question…where to get the crate. Those darn things are expensive. I’m working on that now. I’d hate to plunk out another $125….but guess I could gift it back to Forgotten Felines when finished. I can’t say enough good about that organization. They spay/neuter about 80 cats a week. Bless them! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:26 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma When I re-locate ferals I set them up in a big dog crate in the are I will be releasing them in for 2 weeks minimum. That way the know where they are going to be fed. Make sure you feed them where the crate was. They have always stayed around once freed. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:05 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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If a cat is to be released in a new area, she must be inside somewhere, for at least one month, then slowly introduced outside, in the cage or carrier, on a harness (if not feral), short periods, to longer periods progressively, otherwise the cat has no idea where she is, no sense of a familiar scent, will wander off, and never be seen again. Couldn’t an outdoor enclosure be built? It would be about as much as getting a cage. Somewhere the cat could go in through a cat door and out whenever she wanted? It’s very easy to build one for not very much money. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 10:08 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Is this a really feral cat? From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:30 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Beth, I think this is going to have to be the answer. Now the question…where to get the crate. Those darn things are expensive. I’m working on that now. I’d hate to plunk out another $125….but guess I could gift it back to Forgotten Felines when finished. I can’t say enough good about that organization. They spay/neuter about 80 cats a week. Bless them! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:26 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma When I re-locate ferals I set them up in a big dog crate in the are I will be releasing them in for 2 weeks minimum. That way the know where they are going to be fed. Make sure you feed them where the crate was. They have always stayed around once freed. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:05 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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There's always the bathroom. It's just for 2 or 3 weeks. Over the years I have regretted the ones I did not rescue but have not really regretted the ones I did. --- On Thu, 8/11/11, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, August 11, 2011, 6:27 AM Boy, I wish I could do this…but my aunt’s other cat, Princess (“Chirper” as I call her for her chirping meow) is in the spare room now. And the other cats go into the garage (their litter boxes are there and there is a cat door between house and attached garage). But good suggestion. It’s amazing, but my four other house cats “know” something is going on. And I just brought Princess over about a week ago. Yesterday I started moving some furniture (unrelated) and my one cat freaked out and hid in the garage for hours. I think change is hard on them…or maybe I’m projecting ;-) Thanks for the great suggestions! ~B. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of kathryn mundell Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 6:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. If you decide to name her - use her name over over when you go in to feed her. Praise her for being a smart strong kitty. etc. Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells from inside. That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings won't be so apt to bolt or run off. Good luck! It will be worth the time the effort!!! Kat (Mew Jersey) - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's pet. some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were sweet once we got our hands on them. Was she scanned for a chip? I would definitely do this. She may of course be abandoned but also could be displaced/lost. Most of the chipped cats I find do not have up to date contact info and I've had to do detective work, but because the chip info isn't up to date doesn't always mean the cat doesn't have someone who loves misses it. So many don't have/need homes, it is worth the effort I believe...most turn out to be deadbeat owners, but there could be a kid in the family who's been crying for months over their lost pet--I have had this situation before where we really didn't think the cat had a good home, one never knows. I say this knowing that most do end up being deadbeatsbut, not always, or at least, there might be one person in the family who does care and deserves to know the kitty is alive and have a chance to claim. Just thoughts, I've had recent situations in this regard--please pardon if I missed something that clearly indicated the cat was abandoned (like people just moved out, etc.). Good luck and thank you for helping her!! On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do. Place her in a room in the house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly, simply scared. If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :( -- Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 + From: merrykatme...@email.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. If you decide to name her - use her name over over when you go in to feed her. Praise her for being a smart strong kitty. etc. Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells from inside. That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings won't be so apt to bolt or run off. Good luck! It will be worth the time the effort!!! Kat (Mew Jersey) - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I do lost/found work for a couple of shelters you have no idea how far animals wander. A chip got a cat home that had disappeared months ago from its home about 10 miles away. Thing is sometimes, people pick up strays, bring them home, and then lose or dump them again-now even further from home. Its ALWAYS worth scanning, and checking with your local shelter maybe taking a look at craig's list-though in this case, it sounds like the cat's been out there for a couple of years. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's pet. some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were sweet once we got our hands on them. Was she scanned for a chip? I would definitely do this. She may of course be abandoned but also could be displaced/lost. Most of the chipped cats I find do not have up to date contact info and I've had to do detective work, but because the chip info isn't up to date doesn't always mean the cat doesn't have someone who loves misses it. So many don't have/need homes, it is worth the effort I believe...most turn out to be deadbeat owners, but there could be a kid in the family who's been crying for months over their lost pet--I have had this situation before where we really didn't think the cat had a good home, one never knows. I say this knowing that most do end up being deadbeatsbut, not always, or at least, there might be one person in the family who does care and deserves to know the kitty is alive and have a chance to claim. Just thoughts, I've had recent situations in this regard--please pardon if I missed something that clearly indicated the cat was abandoned (like people just moved out, etc.). Good luck and thank you for helping her!! On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do. Place her in a room in the house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly, simply scared. If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :( _ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 + From: merrykatme...@email.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. If you decide to name her - use her name over over when you go in to feed her. Praise her for being a smart strong kitty. etc. Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells from inside. That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings won't be so apt to bolt or run off. Good luck! It will be worth the time the effort!!! Kat (Mew Jersey) - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I'm literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a feral living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her! So here's the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I'll ask Forgotten Felines if they checked for a chip. Thanks! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 9:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma I do lost/found work for a couple of shelters you have no idea how far animals wander. A chip got a cat home that had disappeared months ago from its home about 10 miles away. Thing is sometimes, people pick up strays, bring them home, and then lose or dump them again-now even further from home. Its ALWAYS worth scanning, and checking with your local shelter maybe taking a look at craig's list-though in this case, it sounds like the cat's been out there for a couple of years. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's pet. some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were sweet once we got our hands on them. Was she scanned for a chip? I would definitely do this. She may of course be abandoned but also could be displaced/lost. Most of the chipped cats I find do not have up to date contact info and I've had to do detective work, but because the chip info isn't up to date doesn't always mean the cat doesn't have someone who loves misses it. So many don't have/need homes, it is worth the effort I believe...most turn out to be deadbeat owners, but there could be a kid in the family who's been crying for months over their lost pet--I have had this situation before where we really didn't think the cat had a good home, one never knows. I say this knowing that most do end up being deadbeatsbut, not always, or at least, there might be one person in the family who does care and deserves to know the kitty is alive and have a chance to claim. Just thoughts, I've had recent situations in this regard--please pardon if I missed something that clearly indicated the cat was abandoned (like people just moved out, etc.). Good luck and thank you for helping her!! On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do. Place her in a room in the house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly, simply scared. If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :( _ Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 + From: merrykatme...@email.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. If you decide to name her - use her name over over when you go in to feed her. Praise her for being a smart strong kitty. etc. Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells from inside. That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings won't be so apt to bolt or run off. Good luck! It will be worth the time the effort!!! Kat (Mew Jersey) - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I'm literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who's tame housecat I took) also had a feral living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) 'person' had just abandoned her! So here's the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she's in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt's house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next 'trapper' may not have
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Have you tried posting to the Special Needs groups. Susan From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:45 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's pet. some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were sweet once we got our hands on them. Was she scanned for a chip? I would definitely do this. She may of course be abandoned but also could be displaced/lost. Most of the chipped cats I find do not have up to date contact info and I've had to do detective work, but because the chip info isn't up to date doesn't always mean the cat doesn't have someone who loves misses it. So many don't have/need homes, it is worth the effort I believe...most turn out to be deadbeat owners, but there could be a kid in the family who's been crying for months over their lost pet--I have had this situation before where we really didn't think the cat had a good home, one never knows. I say this knowing that most do end up being deadbeatsbut, not always, or at least, there might be one person in the family who does care and deserves to know the kitty is alive and have a chance to claim. Just thoughts, I've had recent situations in this regard--please pardon if I missed something that clearly indicated the cat was abandoned (like people just moved out, etc.). Good luck and thank you for helping her!! On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do. Place her in a room in the house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly, simply scared. If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :( Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 + From: merrykatme...@email.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Hi Bonnie, I would try to bring her over to your house, but not directly outside. Do you have a small room @ your house you can use for a few weeks? If so, you should keep her in there - with litter, food water a place to hide (large box with hole in it some towels will do just fine) while you get her accustomed to you as her new care giver. Go in there everyday to be with her - even if you don't touch her. Stay in there for at least a half-hour read something out loud (normal voice) so she can get used to hearing you. If you decide to name her - use her name over over when you go in to feed her. Praise her for being a smart strong kitty. etc. Then after a few weeks, leave her in the room, but with a screened window cracked open a bit, so she can get used to the new neighborhood smells from inside. That way, when you do finally let her out ( put her box outside too) she will already be familiar with the surroundings won't be so apt to bolt or run off. Good luck! It will be worth the time the effort!!! Kat (Mew Jersey) - Original Message - From: Bonnie Hogue Sent: 08/11/11 09:05 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Wish I would have thought to ask this yesterday! Now I’m literally an hour away from needing to decide. The problem is that my aunt (who’s tame housecat I took) also had a “feral” living in her large yard. The cat showed up about 2 years ago, and for the past year I believe the cat has pretty much been a resident there (her only source of food?). Yesterday I trapped her and took her to Forgotten Felines, the local and excellent TNR organization. Guess what? She had already been spayed. That means some (fill in the blank nasty term) ‘person’ had just abandoned her! So here’s the dilemma: if I release her in my yard, she’s in a strange place. The only thing holding her near will be my good heart. If I take her back to my aunt’s house (which is to go on the market soon) god knows what will happen, where she will find food, and the next ‘trapper’ may not have as good a motivation as I do. I see it as 50/50 for this poor cat. But what would YOU do? Thanks for your thoughts. ~Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Yep my thoughts exactly, there just is no end to the weird situations that come up. Had one where the chip contact info was all outdated (phones didn't work, moved, etc.), kept doing internet searches Yahoo suggested a different spelling of the last name--name had been spelled incorrectly on the chip records. Still were skeptical as the cat was found at a very obvious/common dumping spot, but turned out the chip info was from the original owner (just last name spelled wrong but I located once Yahoo figured that part out) who had adopted the cat to a friend a year prior...friend dumped the cat, to the original owner's shock (and showed no remorse when contacted)...orig. owner felt horrible and took the kitty back. Have had more than one where I was only able to find the owner, in situations where it was a very, very old cat (18+, 2 cases like this) but chip not registered/contact info not up to date, by asking the chip company where the cat was chipped (unfortunately, the representatives don't always offer this info up unless you ask but it can be the missing link) or by guessing the family vet by the registered address calling the vet who either knew the cat or was able to look up the people's name. Found 2 owners that way. It sucks people don't keep chip info up to date but have seen every very good homes go through divorce or other change and forget to do so. I agree, sounds like this kitty has been on the streets a while, still best to scan for chip do homework just in case And remember there is a universal microchip lookup website. I have also had chips we scanned ourselves, gave us the chip # and said petlink with a ph# (or other company), that company had no record...but turned out people registered with another company. As a rescuer, I have been very frustrated by these experiences as it tells me the average joe cat finder won't know/think to try all these things which makes finding owners even harder...this happened to me once where the chip info WAS up to date, but, registered to AKC and not coming up via other searches (including the company/ph# that came up on the scanner when we scanned the chip). Sorry to go on, it's a peeve of mine:-) On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.comwrote: I do lost/found work for a couple of shelters you have no idea how far animals wander. A chip got a cat home that had disappeared months ago from its home about 10 miles away. Thing is sometimes, people pick up strays, bring them home, and then lose or dump them again—now even further from home. Its ALWAYS worth scanning, and checking with your local shelter maybe taking a look at craig’s list—though in this case, it sounds like the cat’s been out there for a couple of years. ** ** *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Heather *Sent:* Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:46 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma ** ** Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's pet. some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were sweet once we got our hands on them. Was she scanned for a chip? I would definitely do this. She may of course be abandoned but also could be displaced/lost. Most of the chipped cats I find do not have up to date contact info and I've had to do detective work, but because the chip info isn't up to date doesn't always mean the cat doesn't have someone who loves misses it.*** * So many don't have/need homes, it is worth the effort I believe...most turn out to be deadbeat owners, but there could be a kid in the family who's been crying for months over their lost pet--I have had this situation before where we really didn't think the cat had a good home, one never knows. I say this knowing that most do end up being deadbeatsbut, not always, or at least, there might be one person in the family who does care and deserves to know the kitty is alive and have a chance to claim. Just thoughts, I've had recent situations in this regard--please pardon if I missed something that clearly indicated the cat was abandoned (like people just moved out, etc.). Good luck and thank you for helping her!! On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:* *** Kat, great advice and exactly what I would do. Place her in a room in the house (bathroom/bedroom) and you might find that she is quite friendly, simply scared. If you let her outside now, you will never see her again :( -- Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:19:55 + From: merrykatme...@email.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts
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I just have to say that had I adopted out a cat to a friend and said friend dumped the cat and then showed no remorse for doing so, it would have taken me a nanosecond to drive to said friend's house and throat punched him/her. As I am fond of saying, don't let the tears fool ya, I'm a toof chipper ;) Edna Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2011 13:48:43 -0400 From: furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Yep my thoughts exactly, there just is no end to the weird situations that come up. Had one where the chip contact info was all outdated (phones didn't work, moved, etc.), kept doing internet searches Yahoo suggested a different spelling of the last name--name had been spelled incorrectly on the chip records. Still were skeptical as the cat was found at a very obvious/common dumping spot, but turned out the chip info was from the original owner (just last name spelled wrong but I located once Yahoo figured that part out) who had adopted the cat to a friend a year prior...friend dumped the cat, to the original owner's shock (and showed no remorse when contacted)...orig. owner felt horrible and took the kitty back. Have had more than one where I was only able to find the owner, in situations where it was a very, very old cat (18+, 2 cases like this) but chip not registered/contact info not up to date, by asking the chip company where the cat was chipped (unfortunately, the representatives don't always offer this info up unless you ask but it can be the missing link) or by guessing the family vet by the registered address calling the vet who either knew the cat or was able to look up the people's name. Found 2 owners that way. It sucks people don't keep chip info up to date but have seen every very good homes go through divorce or other change and forget to do so. I agree, sounds like this kitty has been on the streets a while, still best to scan for chip do homework just in case And remember there is a universal microchip lookup website. I have also had chips we scanned ourselves, gave us the chip # and said petlink with a ph# (or other company), that company had no record...but turned out people registered with another company. As a rescuer, I have been very frustrated by these experiences as it tells me the average joe cat finder won't know/think to try all these things which makes finding owners even harder...this happened to me once where the chip info WAS up to date, but, registered to AKC and not coming up via other searches (including the company/ph# that came up on the scanner when we scanned the chip). Sorry to go on, it's a peeve of mine:-) On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 12:20 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: I do lost/found work for a couple of shelters you have no idea how far animals wander. A chip got a cat home that had disappeared months ago from its home about 10 miles away. Thing is sometimes, people pick up strays, bring them home, and then lose or dump them again—now even further from home. Its ALWAYS worth scanning, and checking with your local shelter maybe taking a look at craig’s list—though in this case, it sounds like the cat’s been out there for a couple of years. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:46 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please Share Thoughts on TNR Dilemma Lots of good advice--given this kitty was already spayed, is a cleft palate himi (many cleft palate babies do not survive), this was likely someone's pet. some of the cats at my colonies who have been most standoffish were sweet once we got our hands on them. Was she scanned for a chip? I would definitely do this. She may of course be abandoned but also could be displaced/lost. Most of the chipped cats I find do not have up to date contact info and I've had to do detective work, but because the chip info isn't up to date doesn't always mean the cat doesn't have someone who loves misses it. So many don't have/need homes, it is worth the effort I believe...most turn out to be deadbeat owners, but there could be a kid in the family who's been crying for months over their lost pet--I have had this situation before where we really didn't think the cat had a good home, one never knows. I say this knowing that most do end up being deadbeatsbut, not always, or at least, there might be one person in the family who does care and deserves to know the kitty is alive and have a chance to claim. Just thoughts, I've had recent situations in this regard--please pardon if I missed something that clearly indicated the cat was abandoned (like people just moved out, etc.). Good luck and thank you for helping her!! On Thu, Aug 11, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Kat, great
