Re: [Felvtalk] STORM/REPLY LORRIE, 11/6

2012-11-18 Thread felineres...@frontier.com
Kat, I will write you in detail later about the ceramic heaters. We are using a 

public computer. Sandy devastated our area - No electric for 11 days and still 
no
phone or internet.   


Dot,  You are VERY welcome for the check.  Thanks for the update.

Lorrie




 From: Kathryn Green katsk...@gmail.com
To: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com 
Cc: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 5:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] STORM/REPLY LORRIE, 11/6
 

Hi Lorrie -
Can you tell me more about those ceramic reptile bulbs/heaters and where to get 
them?  Could i use them for my two rescue dogs? They are in an outside kennel 
with a dog door into a 10 x 10 kennel in the garage but Ohio winters can get 
cold so I would like to heat one of their inside dog houses if I could.  
Heating whole garage isn't an option.
Thanx
Kat
dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Lorrie - I received your check in the mail.  Thank you, thank you so much 
and to everyone who helped out.  Tiger was taken to the vet.  He was given to 
my sis in law but her ceiling caved in with the storm and shingles blown off 
her roof so she gave him back to me temporarily.  He has a cold, (he is fev 
pos) and is having a hard time throwing it off.  I have a eucalyptus mister in 
my room that I run twice a day for him.  He is on anti b for the stomatitis 
which his mouth is much, much better.  he is gaining weight and i give him 
Lysine 500/day.  So Tiger is a success story, and I hope his cold clears up 
soon.  Goldie has not yet been captured.  He is still not well.  
Any tips on the cold?  He is congested, but not in the eyes.  Only in the nose 
and sinuses.  
It was thoughtful again Lorrie to receive your check.  The card was cute.  The 
Farmingdale colony are doing okay and weathered the storm safely.  Thanks, Dot



 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] STORM
 
Dot,
Sounds like you have a super good husband. Mine is too. He built me
feral shelters for one of my feral colonies, and since we have so many
cats at home he built me heated, thermostatically controlled sleeping
boxes in our garage for the 3 outside cats.  They have a cat flap into
the garage, and they go into one of the three heated boxes thru a cat
flap too.  THey have a large window to look out of and a warm blanket
inside their box as well as the heat.  I use those ceramic reptile
heaters that give out heat but no light. They screw in like a light bulb 
and give out heat but not light. They seem to last forever as I've used
them 8 or 10 years now. They are
 expensive - about $20. each but are
worth it and they won't break or shatter like a light bulb would, tho
a light bulb can be used if you don't have the ceramic heater.

I think your cats will be okay with what you've prepared for them.
Please let us know how they are when the storm passes.

BTW, I mailed your check Saturday so you should get it early this
week, if mail is delivered.

Lorrie


On 10-28, dot winkler wrote:
    I am in Freehold, NJ. Inland  So, you are in New York?  Or is that near
    Long Island?
     Do you have any outdoor colonies?  My hub over the last year has built
    small dog house type shelters (he is a carpenter) with tarping on the
    rooves.  They are surrounded by tee pee pallets piled on each other.
    Then covered in tarping or plastic stapled on with his
 staple gun.
    There are piles of furniture dumped in the area and some of the houses
    are within those, protected. There are 2 dry feed stations we just
    filled tonight.   I just still am very worried.  Hoping they will be
    okay.  What experiences have you had with storms and the cats?


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Re: [Felvtalk] STORM/REPLY LORRIE, 11/6 - Scents and other chemicals

2012-11-08 Thread Lee Evans
I am fostering one of my former colony cats.  My friend is now feeding the 
colony, which was hers to begin with but since I moved out of the county and 
live 35 miles away, she has had to take back the care of the 7 colonies with 
which I was helping her.

Desi, the cat I am now fostering has lost a lot of weight.  My friend took him 
to the vet and the cat has tested positive for FeLv.  His PCV test is at 10 and 
the vet doesn't hold out much hope for long term survival.  In addition, the 
vet felt a small mass near the cat's liver.  However, what's puzzling is that 
Desi is still eating, still grooming, his fur is shiny like a healthy cat.  His 
eyes were clear and bright last night but had a little gunk on one cheek this 
morning.  But they are still wide and bright and he doesn't seem to be in any 
discomfort or pain.  One thing though is that he's weak.  He walks slowly and 
sits down after a few steps but then he gets up, rubs against me and then sits 
again. His belly is large but i can feel his backbone when I stroke him.  When 
I knew him as a street cat, he was plump and active and mischievous. I have 
known him since he was a half grown kitten. He was one of many black cats born 
to a black feral
 mom cat in the colony but he was friendly to me and my rescue partner.  When 
we got them neutered, we did not test them for anything because we don't have 
money for that.  Desi is about 4 years old.  The colony hangs out at an office 
park. 


I'm wondering if there's any way short of a transfusion to deal with his 
anemia.  I'm giving him Nutra Ved vitamins daily, .5 cc. twice a day.  I can't 
afford the transfusion and with a leukemia positive cat I don't feel it would 
be wise or that any vet would be willing to do that.

 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
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Re: [Felvtalk] STORM/REPLY LORRIE, 11/6

2012-11-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Dot,

Please don't use essential oils, even as aromatherapy, on cats, as it's
unclear, lacking as they do the liver enzymes that we have, whether or not
they can metabolize the toxins in them.   Just putting him in a steamy
bathroom (in a carrier, so he won't jump into the tub---learned this the
very hard way) twice or three times a day for 20 minutes and he should be
good.

Also, 250 mg of Vitamin C (or up to loose stools, then back off) would help
with the congestion, as would N-A-C (Acetyl Cysteine, Acétyl Cystéine,
Acetylcysteine, Acétylcystéine, Chlorhydrate de Cystéine, Cysteine,
Cystéine, Cysteine Hydrochloride, Cystine, Hydrochlorure de Cystéine,
L-Cysteine, L-Cystéine, L-Cysteine HCl, L-Cystéine HCl, NAC), which is
really great at getting congestion out of the lungs (among many other
things).   I've had kits clear up really fast with the latter.


Kathy
*
*

On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:09 PM, dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi Lorrie - I received your check in the mail.  Thank you, thank you so
 much and to everyone who helped out.  Tiger was taken to the vet.  He was
 given to my sis in law but her ceiling caved in with the storm and shingles
 blown off her roof so she gave him back to me temporarily.  He has a cold,
 (he is fev pos) and is having a hard time throwing it off.  I have a
 eucalyptus mister in my room that I run twice a day for him.  He is on anti
 b for the stomatitis which his mouth is much, much better.  he is gaining
 weight and i give him Lysine 500/day.  So Tiger is a success story, and I
 hope his cold clears up soon.  Goldie has not yet been captured.  He is
 still not well.
 Any tips on the cold?  He is congested, but not in the eyes.  Only in the
 nose and sinuses.
 It was thoughtful again Lorrie to receive your check.  The card was cute.
  The Farmingdale colony are doing okay and weathered the storm safely.
  Thanks, Dot

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 *From:* Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Monday, October 29, 2012 6:40 AM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] STORM

 Dot,
 Sounds like you have a super good husband. Mine is too. He built me
 feral shelters for one of my feral colonies, and since we have so many
 cats at home he built me heated, thermostatically controlled sleeping
 boxes in our garage for the 3 outside cats.  They have a cat flap into
 the garage, and they go into one of the three heated boxes thru a cat
 flap too.  THey have a large window to look out of and a warm blanket
 inside their box as well as the heat.  I use those ceramic reptile
 heaters that give out heat but no light. They screw in like a light bulb
 and give out heat but not light. They seem to last forever as I've used
 them 8 or 10 years now. They are expensive - about $20. each but are
 worth it and they won't break or shatter like a light bulb would, tho
 a light bulb can be used if you don't have the ceramic heater.

 I think your cats will be okay with what you've prepared for them.
 Please let us know how they are when the storm passes.

 BTW, I mailed your check Saturday so you should get it early this
 week, if mail is delivered.

 Lorrie


 On 10-28, dot winkler wrote:
 I am in Freehold, NJ. Inland  So, you are in New York?  Or is that
 near
 Long Island?
 Do you have any outdoor colonies?  My hub over the last year has built
 small dog house type shelters (he is a carpenter) with tarping on the
 rooves.  They are surrounded by tee pee pallets piled on each other.
 Then covered in tarping or plastic stapled on with his staple gun.
 There are piles of furniture dumped in the area and some of the houses
 are within those, protected. There are 2 dry feed stations we just
 filled tonight.  I just still am very worried.  Hoping they will be
 okay.  What experiences have you had with storms and the cats?


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Re: [Felvtalk] STORM/REPLY LORRIE, 11/6 - Scents and other chemicals

2012-11-07 Thread Lee Evans
Oh, I didn't see that you were using eucalyptus oil.  I never use any scents 
around cats or around myself.  Most scents are made from chemicals that smell 
like whatever.  Essential oils are more natural but they can be harmful to 
humans and animals.  Cats are especially sensitive to oils or incense.  As Kat 
said, just turn on the hot water, steam up the bathroom and take your boy and 
his stuffy nose in for a nice breath of fresh, unscented steam.  Anything 
vaporized tends to go right into the system, in humans and animals so no 
scents, bath oils, anything.  Just a tub with steamy water and kitty in a 
carrier so he won't take a bath.  

Another warning is not to use scented laundry detergent to wash cat quilts, cat 
beds, even your own bedding etc..  They hate anything that doesn't smell like 
cat and will possibly pee on your or  their bedding to take away the stink 
that humans call perfume. Scented cat litter is usually a no-no also.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






 From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, November 7, 2012 5:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] STORM/REPLY LORRIE, 11/6
 

Dot,


Please don't use essential oils, even as aromatherapy, on cats, as it's 
unclear, lacking as they do the liver enzymes that we have, whether or not 
they can metabolize the toxins in them.   Just putting him in a steamy 
bathroom (in a carrier, so he won't jump into the tub---learned this the very 
hard way) twice or three times a day for 20 minutes and he should be good.  


Also, 250 mg of Vitamin C (or up to loose stools, then back off) would help 
with the congestion, as would N-A-C (Acetyl Cysteine, Acétyl Cystéine, 
Acetylcysteine, Acétylcystéine, Chlorhydrate de Cystéine, Cysteine, Cystéine, 
Cysteine Hydrochloride, Cystine, Hydrochlorure de Cystéine, L-Cysteine, 
L-Cystéine, L-Cysteine HCl, L-Cystéine HCl, NAC), which is really great at 
getting congestion out of the lungs (among many other things).   I've had kits 
clear up really fast with the latter.




Kathy



On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 3:09 PM, dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi Lorrie - I received your check in the mail.  Thank you, thank you so much 
and to everyone who helped out.  Tiger was taken to the vet.  He was given to 
my sis in law but her ceiling caved in with the storm and shingles blown off 
her roof so she gave him back to me temporarily.  He has a cold, (he is fev 
pos) and is having a hard time throwing it off.  I have a eucalyptus mister in 
my room that I run twice a day for him.  He is on anti b for the stomatitis 
which his mouth is much, much better.  he is gaining weight and i give him 
Lysine 500/day.  So Tiger is a success story, and I hope his cold clears up 
soon.  Goldie has not yet been captured.  He is still not well.  
Any tips on the cold?  He is congested, but not in the eyes.  Only in the 
nose and sinuses.  
It was thoughtful again Lorrie to receive your check.  The card was cute.  
The Farmingdale colony are doing okay and weathered the storm safely.  
Thanks, Dot




 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] STORM
 
Dot,
Sounds like you have a super good husband. Mine is too. He built me
feral shelters for one of my feral colonies, and since we have so many
cats at home he built me heated, thermostatically controlled sleeping
boxes in our garage for the 3 outside cats.  They have a cat flap into
the garage, and they go into one of the three heated boxes thru a cat
flap too.  THey have a large window to look out of and a warm blanket
inside their box as well as the heat.  I use those ceramic reptile
heaters that give out heat but no light. They screw in like a light bulb 
and give out heat but not light. They seem to last forever as I've used
them 8 or 10 years now. They are
 expensive - about $20. each but are
worth it and they won't break or shatter like a light bulb would, tho
a light bulb can be used if you don't have the ceramic heater.

I think your cats will be okay with what you've prepared for them.
Please let us know how they are when the storm passes.

BTW, I mailed your check Saturday so you should get it early this
week, if mail is delivered.

Lorrie


On 10-28, dot winkler wrote:
    I am in Freehold, NJ. Inland  So, you are in New York?  Or is that near
    Long Island?
     Do you have any outdoor colonies?  My hub over the last year has built
    small dog house type shelters (he is a carpenter) with tarping on the
    rooves.  They are surrounded by tee pee pallets piled on each other.
    Then covered in tarping or plastic stapled on with his
 staple gun.
    There are piles of furniture dumped in the area and some of the houses
    are within those, protected. There are 2 dry feed stations we just
    filled

Re: [Felvtalk] STORM/REPLY LORRIE, 11/6

2012-11-06 Thread dot winkler
Hi Lorrie - I received your check in the mail.  Thank you, thank you so much 
and to everyone who helped out.  Tiger was taken to the vet.  He was given to 
my sis in law but her ceiling caved in with the storm and shingles blown off 
her roof so she gave him back to me temporarily.  He has a cold, (he is fev 
pos) and is having a hard time throwing it off.  I have a eucalyptus mister in 
my room that I run twice a day for him.  He is on anti b for the stomatitis 
which his mouth is much, much better.  he is gaining weight and i give him 
Lysine 500/day.  So Tiger is a success story, and I hope his cold clears up 
soon.  Goldie has not yet been captured.  He is still not well.  
Any tips on the cold?  He is congested, but not in the eyes.  Only in the nose 
and sinuses.  
It was thoughtful again Lorrie to receive your check.  The card was cute.  The 
Farmingdale colony are doing okay and weathered the storm safely.  Thanks, Dot




 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 6:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] STORM
 
Dot,
Sounds like you have a super good husband. Mine is too. He built me
feral shelters for one of my feral colonies, and since we have so many
cats at home he built me heated, thermostatically controlled sleeping
boxes in our garage for the 3 outside cats.  They have a cat flap into
the garage, and they go into one of the three heated boxes thru a cat
flap too.  THey have a large window to look out of and a warm blanket
inside their box as well as the heat.  I use those ceramic reptile
heaters that give out heat but no light. They screw in like a light bulb 
and give out heat but not light. They seem to last forever as I've used
them 8 or 10 years now. They are expensive - about $20. each but are
worth it and they won't break or shatter like a light bulb would, tho
a light bulb can be used if you don't have the ceramic heater.

I think your cats will be okay with what you've prepared for them.
Please let us know how they are when the storm passes.

BTW, I mailed your check Saturday so you should get it early this
week, if mail is delivered.

Lorrie


On 10-28, dot winkler wrote:
    I am in Freehold, NJ. Inland  So, you are in New York?  Or is that near
    Long Island?
     Do you have any outdoor colonies?  My hub over the last year has built
    small dog house type shelters (he is a carpenter) with tarping on the
    rooves.  They are surrounded by tee pee pallets piled on each other.
    Then covered in tarping or plastic stapled on with his staple gun.
    There are piles of furniture dumped in the area and some of the houses
    are within those, protected. There are 2 dry feed stations we just
    filled tonight.   I just still am very worried.  Hoping they will be
    okay.  What experiences have you had with storms and the cats?


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Re: [Felvtalk] STORM/REPLY LORRIE, 11/6

2012-11-06 Thread Kathryn Green
Hi Lorrie -

Can you tell me more about those ceramic reptile bulbs/heaters and where to
get them? Could i use them for my two rescue dogs? They are in an outside
kennel with a dog door into a 10 x 10 kennel in the garage but Ohio winters
can get cold so I would like to heat one of their inside dog houses if I
could. Heating whole garage isn't an option.

Thanx

Kat

dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote:

Hi Lorrie - I received your check in the mail.  Thank you, thank you so
much and to everyone who helped out.  Tiger was taken to the vet.  He was
given to my sis in law but her ceiling caved in with the storm and shingles
blown off her roof so she gave him back to me temporarily.  He has a cold,
(he is fev pos) and is having a hard time throwing it off.  I have a
eucalyptus mister in my room that I run twice a day for him.  He is on anti
b for the stomatitis which his mouth is much, much better.  he is gaining
weight and i give him Lysine 500/day.  So Tiger is a success story, and I
hope his cold clears up soon.  Goldie has not yet been captured.  He is
still not well.
Any tips on the cold?  He is congested, but not in the eyes.  Only in the
nose and sinuses.
It was thoughtful again Lorrie to receive your check.  The card was cute.
 The Farmingdale colony are doing okay and weathered the storm safely.
 Thanks, Dot

  --
*From:* Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Sent:* Monday, October 29, 2012 6:40 AM
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] STORM

Dot,
Sounds like you have a super good husband. Mine is too. He built me
feral shelters for one of my feral colonies, and since we have so many
cats at home he built me heated, thermostatically controlled sleeping
boxes in our garage for the 3 outside cats.  They have a cat flap into
the garage, and they go into one of the three heated boxes thru a cat
flap too.  THey have a large window to look out of and a warm blanket
inside their box as well as the heat.  I use those ceramic reptile
heaters that give out heat but no light. They screw in like a light bulb
and give out heat but not light. They seem to last forever as I've used
them 8 or 10 years now. They are expensive - about $20. each but are
worth it and they won't break or shatter like a light bulb would, tho
a light bulb can be used if you don't have the ceramic heater.

I think your cats will be okay with what you've prepared for them.
Please let us know how they are when the storm passes.

BTW, I mailed your check Saturday so you should get it early this
week, if mail is delivered.

Lorrie


On 10-28, dot winkler wrote:
I am in Freehold, NJ. Inland  So, you are in New York?  Or is that near
Long Island?
Do you have any outdoor colonies?  My hub over the last year has built
small dog house type shelters (he is a carpenter) with tarping on the
rooves.  They are surrounded by tee pee pallets piled on each other.
Then covered in tarping or plastic stapled on with his staple gun.
There are piles of furniture dumped in the area and some of the houses
are within those, protected. There are 2 dry feed stations we just
filled tonight.  I just still am very worried.  Hoping they will be
okay.  What experiences have you had with storms and the cats?


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