Re: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help
Thank you for all the suggestions everyone! My vet came up with this interesting option: Test mom, if she comes up negative then take blood from all 4 kittens, mix it together and do one snap test. If a positive shows then that means one of the kittens have it - and test them individually, if not then they'd all be fine. Seems like an interesting theory to me. All the rescues I know work with vets that do the snap tests for them, they don't do it 'in house', so i'm kind of stuck there. Michelle Brockman > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 18:49:17 -0500> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help> > > Michelle, I am relatively new to the group, but I do agree with Beth that it is important to test all the kittens. We used to do what your vet said y ears ago, then discovered on more than one occasion since, that if a mom is negative it does not mean the kittens ARE negative. We had a case where mom was negative all the time and 2 of her five kittens were positive FeLV and the rest were always negative. If there is no hurry, I'd do what you can this month and test another or two the next month to help with expenses. Do you have a rescue group nearby that uses the IDEXX tests and does their own testing? WE can do it for way less than the vets can even order the tests and they might help you too. > good luck with them. Carmen and furballs at C & W Rustic Hollow Shelter. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:15:37 +> Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help> > > I have four 7 week old kittens and their mother that came from the pound that I need to test for FELV/FIV and my vet said that I would only need to test the mother and one kitten and not test all kittens.> > Do you think that will be reliable? It's $30 per snap test, so I think they're wanting to save me money, which I appreciate, just not sure if some of the kittens could contract a disease and others wouldn't. > > Any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Michelle Brockman > _> See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go.> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> _> Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn “10 hidden secrets” from Jamie.> http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help
Morning. I would have to agree with those that would test all of them. After running a Felv sanctuary for the last 7 years, and dealing with nothing but feLv cats i have found that the test are very inaccurate when it comes to kittens one can be positive and 2 weeks later be a weak pos, then be neg all together. it is a good idea to have them tested more than once, and to use a better test than just a snap test. i know this can get expensive, but i have found it to be quit heart warming in the long run. i have 9 of our furry kids that currently reside at our home aged 13-3 and all are in great health. michael In a message dated 9/30/2008 6:55:20 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Agree 100% with Carmen. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmen Conklin Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help Michelle, I am relatively new to the group, but I do agree with Beth that it is important to test all the kittens. We used to do what your vet said y ears ago, then discovered on more than one occasion since, that if a mom is negative it does not mean the kittens ARE negative. We had a case where mom was negative all the time and 2 of her five kittens were positive FeLV and the rest were always negative. If there is no hurry, I'd do what you can this month and test another or two the next month to help with expenses. Do you have a rescue group nearby that uses the IDEXX tests and does their own testing? WE can do it for way less than the vets can even order the tests and they might help you too. good luck with them. Carmen and furballs at C & W Rustic Hollow Shelter. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:15:37 +> Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help> > > I have four 7 week old kittens and their mother that came from the pound that I need to test for FELV/FIV and my vet said that I would only need to test the mother and one kitten and not test all kittens.> > Do you think that will be reliable? It's $30 per snap test, so I think they're wanting to save me money, which I appreciate, just not sure if some of the kittens could contract a disease and others wouldn't. > > Any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Michelle Brockman > _> See how Windows Mobile brings your life together-at home, work, or on the go.> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn "10 hidden secrets" from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!55 0F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org **Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall0001) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help
Agree 100% with Carmen. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carmen Conklin Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 6:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help Michelle, I am relatively new to the group, but I do agree with Beth that it is important to test all the kittens. We used to do what your vet said y ears ago, then discovered on more than one occasion since, that if a mom is negative it does not mean the kittens ARE negative. We had a case where mom was negative all the time and 2 of her five kittens were positive FeLV and the rest were always negative. If there is no hurry, I'd do what you can this month and test another or two the next month to help with expenses. Do you have a rescue group nearby that uses the IDEXX tests and does their own testing? WE can do it for way less than the vets can even order the tests and they might help you too. good luck with them. Carmen and furballs at C & W Rustic Hollow Shelter. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:15:37 +> Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help> > > I have four 7 week old kittens and their mother that came from the pound that I need to test for FELV/FIV and my vet said that I would only need to test the mother and one kitten and not test all kittens.> > Do you think that will be reliable? It's $30 per snap test, so I think they're wanting to save me money, which I appreciate, just not sure if some of the kittens could contract a disease and others wouldn't. > > Any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Michelle Brockman > _> See how Windows Mobile brings your life together-at home, work, or on the go.> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn "10 hidden secrets" from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!55 0F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help
Michelle, I am relatively new to the group, but I do agree with Beth that it is important to test all the kittens. We used to do what your vet said y ears ago, then discovered on more than one occasion since, that if a mom is negative it does not mean the kittens ARE negative. We had a case where mom was negative all the time and 2 of her five kittens were positive FeLV and the rest were always negative. If there is no hurry, I'd do what you can this month and test another or two the next month to help with expenses. Do you have a rescue group nearby that uses the IDEXX tests and does their own testing? WE can do it for way less than the vets can even order the tests and they might help you too. good luck with them. Carmen and furballs at C & W Rustic Hollow Shelter. > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:15:37 +> Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help> > > I have four 7 week old kittens and their mother that came from the pound that I need to test for FELV/FIV and my vet said that I would only need to test the mother and one kitten and not test all kittens.> > Do you think that will be reliable? It's $30 per snap test, so I think they're wanting to save me money, which I appreciate, just not sure if some of the kittens could contract a disease and others wouldn't. > > Any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Michelle Brockman > _> See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go.> http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/> ___> Felvtalk mailing list> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Want to do more with Windows Live? Learn “10 hidden secrets” from Jamie. http://windowslive.com/connect/post/jamiethomson.spaces.live.com-Blog-cns!550F681DAD532637!5295.entry?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_domore_092008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help
Michelle, In my limited experience, if the Mother is positive then odds are all the kittens are positive. I'd start testing with the Mom. If Mom is negative then there is a chance the Dad could have some impact. You could then start testing the kittens but I would think you'd need to check each kitten if Mom is negative. I'm dealing with 2 litters of FeLV+ feral cats. There were 5 kittens in the older group. I rescued 2 and they both tested positive. One vanished. Daisy had a litter before I could trap her. I did TNR on her and rescued her litter of four week old kittens. All 4 kittens have tested positive. I am still trying to trap Mae to do TNR. I know some feel TNR should not be done on positive cats. I can not PTS a cat who is currently healthy. I have rescued another cat from the same colony with different parents who tested negative which re-enforces my belief that FeLV is not as easily transmitted between cats as some vets would lead us to believe. My goal is to spay/neuter all the cats in the colony to stop the spread of this disease. In the meantime the latest 4 babies are doing fine in a cat enclosure at my house. They have now gotten all their shots, been spayed/neutered and I am looking for forever homes for them. I'm not real optimistic since that was my goal with Sissy and Rocket. Sorry for the log story. Start with testing Mom. Sharyl Sissy Rocket and Daisy's Babies --- On Tue, 9/30/08, Michelle Brockman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Michelle Brockman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 4:15 PM I have four 7 week old kittens and their mother that came from the pound that I need to test for FELV/FIV and my vet said that I would only need to test the mother and one kitten and not test all kittens. Do you think that will be reliable? It's $30 per snap test, so I think they're wanting to save me money, which I appreciate, just not sure if some of the kittens could contract a disease and others wouldn't. Any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Michelle Brockman _ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help
Perhaps test one and see what the results are. If positive, test another or the rest On Sep 30, 2008, at 4:49 PM, Pat Kachur wrote: > I believe that mostly it is true that testing just one kitten would be > enough. I have read that if kittens were fathered by different > males (one > who could have been infected and another who was negative), some > could be > positive and some negative. I have to think this must be rare, > though. > > Others probably have more info to give you. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Michelle Brockman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:15 PM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help > > > > I have four 7 week old kittens and their mother that came from the > pound > that I need to test for FELV/FIV and my vet said that I would only > need to > test the mother and one kitten and not test all kittens. > > Do you think that will be reliable? It's $30 per snap test, so I think > they're wanting to save me money, which I appreciate, just not sure > if some > of the kittens could contract a disease and others wouldn't. > > Any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Michelle Brockman > _ > See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or > on the > go. > http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help
I believe that mostly it is true that testing just one kitten would be enough. I have read that if kittens were fathered by different males (one who could have been infected and another who was negative), some could be positive and some negative. I have to think this must be rare, though. Others probably have more info to give you. - Original Message - From: "Michelle Brockman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 4:15 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help I have four 7 week old kittens and their mother that came from the pound that I need to test for FELV/FIV and my vet said that I would only need to test the mother and one kitten and not test all kittens. Do you think that will be reliable? It's $30 per snap test, so I think they're wanting to save me money, which I appreciate, just not sure if some of the kittens could contract a disease and others wouldn't. Any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Michelle Brockman _ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help
Hi, I would test all, if financially possible. I rescued a mom and five babies, mom tested negative, runt tested positive at 7 weeks old and was quarantined, 4 siblings were negative at 8 weeks old. One of the neg's got a fever at about 14 weeks old, he was retested Elisa and IFA and was positive on both. They were all tested again 2 or 3 months later (I can't remember which, I know that 90 days is better, but we were anxious to get them out of quarantine, so I think we bumped it up a little). The neg's were still neg. They are now vaccinated and we mix, don't plan to retest unless someone gets sick. Best of luck, Beth, Blue, Moxie, Dash, Scooter, and Will Feral ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Testing New Kittens - Need Help
I have four 7 week old kittens and their mother that came from the pound that I need to test for FELV/FIV and my vet said that I would only need to test the mother and one kitten and not test all kittens. Do you think that will be reliable? It's $30 per snap test, so I think they're wanting to save me money, which I appreciate, just not sure if some of the kittens could contract a disease and others wouldn't. Any input would be GREATLY appreciated. Michelle Brockman _ See how Windows Mobile brings your life together—at home, work, or on the go. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093182mrt/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
