Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite
FeLV does not kill cats, except in the (in my experience) rare situations where the virus itself interferes with the bone marrow's ability to produce red cells. I had 6 FeLV+ cats and none of them appeared to have died from that. FeLV reduces their immune system a lot so that they get and die of other things. Lymphoma is very common-- 4 of my 6 died of lymphoma. I did chemo with 2 of them and it helped for a couple months. They also get FIP more than other cats-- one of my remaining 1 died of wet FIP and the other appeared to have dry FIP. Not one died from anemia that was jut the FeLV in the bone marrow, though I know it does happen and appears to depend on the strain of FeLV. That said, they can also get whatever other cats can get, and are more prone to some of those treatable things, like infections. And to normal stuff-- my last surviving FeLV+ cat, who was also FIV+, lived to 9 years old. When she was about 7, she developed all the symptoms discussed here-- lethargy, inappetance, weight loss. I had just lost the second to last to FIP so my vet said she probably had that. But we did blood work, and what she had was diabetes that had been untreated long enough for her to get ketotic. She was hospitalized and fully recovered and got insulin shots the last 2 years of her life. When she was 8, she started losing weight again and it was hyperthyroidism, so she got treated for that too. The last time it was lymphoma, and she did ok with treatment for that for a while but not a long time, maybe 2-3 months, on steroids and a few chemo treatments. But if I had assumed that the lethargy and weight loss from diabetes were just the FeLV, she would have had 2 fewer years, and they were good years for her. So this is why I always push getting to the bottom of what it actually is that is causing the weight loss and lethargy, because there is a chance it is something completely treatable, and there is also a chance that it's something that can be controlled for a while with steroids or other drugs. That said, I go farther with treatment than most, sometimes for good and sometimes for bad, but something to keep in mind. Michelle -Original Message- From: Lorrie To: felvtalk Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 7:41 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite On 03-01, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: > Has anyone seen these signs before? Yes, this is very commom with FelV+ cats. I've had several who started eating less and less until they stopped eating completely were soon just skin and bones. At that point I had them euthanized. This was after several trips to a vet to try to help them feel better and live a little longer. I am so sorry you are experiencing this. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite
I have two that experience this occasionally. One responds to baby food and a/d fed by syringe, and the other, cyproheptadine. Sometimes all they need is an assist to get over the hump. They do get a Vet check to acertain that nothing else is going on, a fluid bolus and B-12 injection, as well as oral DMG and Pet-Tabs Iron plus. Sometimes prednisolone can jumpstart appetite, and make a cat feel much better. It's worth a shot to give them a chance to recover. I hope that your outcome is a good one. All the bets, Margo -Original Message- >From: Lorrie >Sent: Mar 2, 2014 7:20 AM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite > >On 03-01, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: >> Has anyone seen these signs before? > >Yes, this is very commom with FelV+ cats. I've had several who >started eating less and less until they stopped eating completely >were soon just skin and bones. At that point I had them euthanized. >This was after several trips to a vet to try to help them feel >better and live a little longer. I am so sorry you are >experiencing this. > >Lorrie > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite
On 03-01, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote: > Has anyone seen these signs before? Yes, this is very commom with FelV+ cats. I've had several who started eating less and less until they stopped eating completely were soon just skin and bones. At that point I had them euthanized. This was after several trips to a vet to try to help them feel better and live a little longer. I am so sorry you are experiencing this. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite
she might ahve a sore in her mouth. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 7:15 PM, Maryam Ulomi wrote: Hello everyone, Kitty, our little 19 months old FeLV positive cat, has for the past three days been eating less than usual. I have tried all sort of new canned foods but she eats a little bit and then walks away. She will eat maybe 1/3 of what she would normally eat in one meal then walk away sometimes she comes back to it but mostly she will want something else. If I give it to her in a new bowl she might it or not. She has not stopped eating all together but I'm concerned that she is not eating as much as previously. She plays, poops and pees, does not hide, is otherwise her usual adorable self. Has anyone seen these signs before? I don't know if i should take her to the vet or wait. Thanks, Malls and Kitty. Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite
Eating little bits is not the same as normal appetite. If you've noticed a difference, it's because something is likely wrong. -Original Message- From: Maryam Ulomi To: felvtalk Cc: felvtalk Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2014 9:52 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite She is eating dry food, which I never give her but as a treat when I brush her teeth. Sent from my iPad On Feb 26, 2014, at 20:31, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: Yes, I'd go right away for an exam and blood work. Appetite los is often the first sign of all the problems they get, from stomatitis to URI's to anemia to cancer. Michelle -Original Message- From: KG BarnCats To: felvtalk Cc: FeLVPositiveCats Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:24 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite tI recommend that you take Kitty to the vet right away and find out if there is a reason for inappetance, such as dental/gum irritation. That is really common in FELV or FIV cats. Also, get some appetite stimulant pills such as cyproheptadine or mirtazipine (also fights nausea). The longer you wait while the cat eats poorly, the weaker the cat gets. Nothing good comes of that. Good luck. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Maryam Ulomi wrote: Hello everyone, Kitty, our little 19 months old FeLV positive cat, has for the past three days been eating less than usual. I have tried all sort of new canned foods but she eats a little bit and then walks away. She will eat maybe 1/3 of what she would normally eat in one meal then walk away sometimes she comes back to it but mostly she will want something else. If I give it to her in a new bowl she might it or not. She has not stopped eating all together but I'm concerned that she is not eating as much as previously. She plays, poops and pees, does not hide, is otherwise her usual adorable self. Has anyone seen these signs before? I don't know if i should take her to the vet or wait. Thanks, Malls and Kitty. Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite
She is eating dry food, which I never give her but as a treat when I brush her teeth. Sent from my iPad > On Feb 26, 2014, at 20:31, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote: > > Yes, I'd go right away for an exam and blood work. Appetite los is often the > first sign of all the problems they get, from stomatitis to URI's to anemia > to cancer. > > Michelle > -Original Message- > From: KG BarnCats > To: felvtalk > Cc: FeLVPositiveCats > Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:24 pm > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite > > tI recommend that you take Kitty to the vet right away and find out if there > is a reason for inappetance, such as dental/gum irritation. That is really > common in FELV or FIV cats. Also, get some appetite stimulant pills such as > cyproheptadine or mirtazipine (also fights nausea). The longer you wait > while the cat eats poorly, the weaker the cat gets. Nothing good comes of > that. Good luck. > > > > >> On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Maryam Ulomi wrote: >> Hello everyone, >> >> Kitty, our little 19 months old FeLV positive cat, has for the past three >> days been eating less than usual. I have tried all sort of new canned foods >> but she eats a little bit and then walks away. She will eat maybe 1/3 of >> what she would normally eat in one meal then walk away sometimes she comes >> back to it but mostly she will want something else. If I give it to her in a >> new bowl she might it or not. >> She has not stopped eating all together but I'm concerned that she is not >> eating as much as previously. >> She plays, poops and pees, does not hide, is otherwise her usual adorable >> self. >> Has anyone seen these signs before? >> I don't know if i should take her to the vet or wait. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Malls and Kitty. >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite
Yes, I'd go right away for an exam and blood work. Appetite los is often the first sign of all the problems they get, from stomatitis to URI's to anemia to cancer. Michelle -Original Message- From: KG BarnCats To: felvtalk Cc: FeLVPositiveCats Sent: Wed, Feb 26, 2014 8:24 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite tI recommend that you take Kitty to the vet right away and find out if there is a reason for inappetance, such as dental/gum irritation. That is really common in FELV or FIV cats. Also, get some appetite stimulant pills such as cyproheptadine or mirtazipine (also fights nausea). The longer you wait while the cat eats poorly, the weaker the cat gets. Nothing good comes of that. Good luck. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Maryam Ulomi wrote: Hello everyone, Kitty, our little 19 months old FeLV positive cat, has for the past three days been eating less than usual. I have tried all sort of new canned foods but she eats a little bit and then walks away. She will eat maybe 1/3 of what she would normally eat in one meal then walk away sometimes she comes back to it but mostly she will want something else. If I give it to her in a new bowl she might it or not. She has not stopped eating all together but I'm concerned that she is not eating as much as previously. She plays, poops and pees, does not hide, is otherwise her usual adorable self. Has anyone seen these signs before? I don't know if i should take her to the vet or wait. Thanks, Malls and Kitty. Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Too little appetite
tI recommend that you take Kitty to the vet right away and find out if there is a reason for inappetance, such as dental/gum irritation. That is really common in FELV or FIV cats. Also, get some appetite stimulant pills such as cyproheptadine or mirtazipine (also fights nausea). The longer you wait while the cat eats poorly, the weaker the cat gets. Nothing good comes of that. Good luck. On Wed, Feb 26, 2014 at 8:15 PM, Maryam Ulomi wrote: > Hello everyone, > > Kitty, our little 19 months old FeLV positive cat, has for the past three > days been eating less than usual. I have tried all sort of new canned foods > but she eats a little bit and then walks away. She will eat maybe 1/3 of > what she would normally eat in one meal then walk away sometimes she comes > back to it but mostly she will want something else. If I give it to her in > a new bowl she might it or not. > She has not stopped eating all together but I'm concerned that she is not > eating as much as previously. > She plays, poops and pees, does not hide, is otherwise her usual adorable > self. > Has anyone seen these signs before? > I don't know if i should take her to the vet or wait. > > > Thanks, > > Malls and Kitty. > > > > Sent from my iPad > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Too little appetite
Hello everyone, Kitty, our little 19 months old FeLV positive cat, has for the past three days been eating less than usual. I have tried all sort of new canned foods but she eats a little bit and then walks away. She will eat maybe 1/3 of what she would normally eat in one meal then walk away sometimes she comes back to it but mostly she will want something else. If I give it to her in a new bowl she might it or not. She has not stopped eating all together but I'm concerned that she is not eating as much as previously. She plays, poops and pees, does not hide, is otherwise her usual adorable self. Has anyone seen these signs before? I don't know if i should take her to the vet or wait. Thanks, Malls and Kitty. Sent from my iPad ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
