Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?

[Sharon Siders]

Sally,
 
I know too well what you mean about that knot in your gut; that is exactly how I get when there is any deviation from the norm.  
 
Carolina got the usual vaccines for the kitty diseases and also rabies.  She has not reacted before, but she has not had any vaccination for over 3 years.  She is not Felv+, last tested over 3 years ago.
 
She threw up a hairball last night and a bit more bile.  She seems okay otherwise.
 
Thanks for answering.
 
Sharon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Sharon:Don't panic. This could just be a reaction to something Carolina ate, or it could just be a further vaccine-related reaction. What vaccine was she given? Is Carolina running a temp? If there are any health food stores in your area, you could try getting some Thuja, dissolve a pellet in a small amount of water and syringe it in the corner of her mouth. If she is still trying to clear any toxicity from her body related to the vaccine, this might help and it won't hurt.If she continues to vomit, or is running a significant fever, refuses to eat and becomes depressed or lethargic then it would be wise to consult with a vet. Sometimes cats will vomit small amounts of fluid/food in trying to get rid of hair balls as well. The fact these symptoms have appeared so soon after being vaccinated does tend to make one suspect it
 is a reaction to the vaccine. Had Carolina ever been given this particular vaccine previously? Has she had vaccines in the past and reacted? ...or not? Is she FeLV+? I would not risk giving any vaccines to an FeLV+ cat...such a stress to the immune system has been known to trigger a latent infection into an active one. I hope it may prove to be a minor gastric upset. If she tried to eat some plant matter this could be the reason, or an indication she was seeking relief from something irritating her gut. I don't know if baby's breath is toxic to cats or not.It must be a difficult time for you being still emotionally traumatized from the loss of your mom and afraid that the other shoe will drop and something may happen to other loved ones. I wish I could think of some words that could ease your anxiety. Since I became involved with FeLV+ kittys and lost my first two precious angels, every time one of the furkids sneezes or
 their appetite is off a bit, I get this big knot in my gut and a feeling of dread, wondering if someone is going to crash. And even before that, after any sort of a crisis or when things weren't going smoothly, I would sometimes wake up and wonder what will go wrong TODAY? It isn't easy, but try to think calming, positive thoughts, especially where Carolina is concerned. We can surround ourselves with so much negative energy it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. Try to imagine your mom's spirit being there with you to give you strength and try not to imagine the worst happening. Try to think of Carolina as strong and completely well. Hopefully she will pick up on your thoughts and that will help her get through this crisis, whatever it is.Keeping you and Carolina in my thoughts and prayers...Sally in San Jose__Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? 
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Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?

[Skf95111]

Dear Sharon:

Don't panic.  This could just be a reaction to something Carolina ate, or it 
could just be a further vaccine-related reaction.  What vaccine was she given? 
 Is Carolina running a temp?  If there are any health food stores in your 
area, you could try getting some Thuja, dissolve a pellet in a small amount of 
water and syringe it in the corner of her mouth.  If she is still trying to 
clear any toxicity from her body related to the vaccine, this might help and it 
won't hurt.

If she continues to vomit, or is running a significant fever, refuses to eat 
and becomes depressed or lethargic then it would be wise to consult with a 
vet.  Sometimes cats will vomit small amounts of fluid/food in trying to get 
rid 
of hair balls as well.  The fact these symptoms have appeared so soon after 
being vaccinated does tend to make one suspect it is a reaction to the vaccine. 
 
Had Carolina ever been given this particular vaccine previously?  Has she had 
vaccines in the past and reacted? ...or not?  Is she FeLV+?  I would not risk 
giving any vaccines to an FeLV+ cat...such a stress to the immune system has 
been known to trigger a latent infection into an active one. 

I hope it may prove to be a minor gastric upset. If she tried to eat some 
plant matter this could be the reason, or an indication she was seeking relief 
from something irritating her gut.  I don't know if baby's breath is toxic to 
cats or not.

It must be a difficult time for you being still emotionally traumatized from 
the loss of your mom and afraid that the other shoe will drop and something 
may happen to other loved ones.  I wish I could think of some words that could 
ease your anxiety.  Since I became involved with FeLV+ kittys and lost my first 
two precious angels, every time one of the furkids sneezes or their appetite 
is off a bit, I get this big knot in my gut and a feeling of dread, wondering 
if someone is going to crash.  And even before that, after any sort of a 
crisis or when things weren't going smoothly, I would sometimes wake up and 
wonder 
what will go wrong TODAY?  It isn't easy, but try to think calming, positive 
thoughts, especially where Carolina is concerned.  We can surround ourselves 
with so much negative energy it can become a self-fulfilling prophecy.  Try to 
imagine your mom's spirit being there with you to give you strength and try not 
to imagine the worst happening.  Try to think of Carolina as strong and 
completely well.  Hopefully she will pick up on your thoughts and that will 
help 
her get through this crisis, whatever it is.

Keeping you and Carolina in my thoughts and prayers...

Sally in San Jose

Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?

[Gloria B. Lane]

Me neither - I've learned it pays to be suspicious!
Gloria
At 09:38 AM 4/28/2005, you wrote:
Scary, isn't it?  My trust level for both vets and doctors is not very 
high anymore; I sometimes think the Internet groups know more than they 
do.  At least, we have a wide range of info.

Sharon
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Doesn't surprize me that anyone in this group would have a better
idea than some vets that I know!
Carla
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> Carla,
>
> Gloria suggested something. She might be better than the vet, eh?
>
> Sharon
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Maybe the vet can give you something for her with out seeing her?
>
>
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Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?

[Sharon Siders]

Not a lot.  I have removed it so she can't get any more.
 
Sharon[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



In a message dated 4/28/2005 7:00:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
a bit of dried baby's breath
Baby's Breath is a poison to some cats. Very hard for their stomachs to digest. They can't tolerate it.
Did she eat alot of it?
Some cats are okay with it. 
All of mine except a few can eat it and not get sick from it.
 
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Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?

[TatorBunz]

In a message dated 4/28/2005 7:00:16 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
a bit of dried baby's breath
Baby's Breath is a poison to some cats. Very hard for their stomachs to digest. They can't tolerate it.
Did she eat alot of it?
Some cats are okay with it. 
All of mine except a few can eat it and not get sick from it.
 
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Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?

[Sharon Siders]

Scary, isn't it?  My trust level for both vets and doctors is not very high anymore; I sometimes think the Internet groups know more than they do.  At least, we have a wide range of info.
 
Sharon[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Doesn't surprize me that anyone in this group would have a better idea than some vets that I know!CarlaDate sent: Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT)From: Sharon Siders <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgCopies to: Subject: Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?Send reply to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Carla,> > Gloria suggested something. She might be better than the vet, eh?> > Sharon> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> Maybe the vet can give you something for her with out seeing her?> > > __> Do You Yahoo!?> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com __Do
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Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?

[carlas]

Doesn't surprize me that anyone in this group would have a better 
idea than some vets that I know!

Carla


Date sent:  Thu, 28 Apr 2005 07:17:01 -0700 (PDT)
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> Carla,
> 
> Gloria suggested something.  She might be better than the vet, eh?
> 
> Sharon
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Maybe the vet can give you something for her with out seeing her?
> 
> 
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Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?

[Sharon Siders]

Carla,
 
Gloria suggested something.  She might be better than the vet, eh?
 
Sharon[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?

[Sharon Siders]

No, I asked the vet about OTC remedies. He couldn't think of any.  I forgot about Pepcid; Iused to give that to my CRF kitty.
 
Thanks, Gloria.
 
Sharon"Gloria B. Lane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
have you tried plain pepsid ac or zantac (I use about 1/4 tablet)?GloriaAt 08:59 AM 4/28/2005, you wrote:>Friends,>>Carolina is throwing up bile, yesterday some undigested food and then >bile. There was some hair and a bit of dried baby's breath in it this >morning. she is eating and drinking and roaming around as usual.>>The vet wanted me to bring her in, but I'm hesitating. It seems like >every time I take a kitty to the vet, he or she is sicker after. I know >this is nuts, but I fear that I will hear some awful prognosis. Am I >harming Carolina by not taking her in?>>I don't think I'm very rational right now. Things that happened with docs >and my mom are clouding my judgment.>>Sharon>>>Do you Yahoo!?>Yahoo! Small Business -
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Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?

[carlas]

Maybe the vet can give you something for her with out seeing her?

Re: Carolina to Vet or Not?

[Gloria B. Lane]

have you tried plain pepsid ac or zantac (I use about 1/4 tablet)?
Gloria
At 08:59 AM 4/28/2005, you wrote:
Friends,
Carolina is throwing up bile, yesterday some undigested food and then 
bile.  There was some hair and a bit of dried baby's breath in it this 
morning.  she is eating and drinking and roaming around as usual.

The vet wanted me to bring her in, but I'm hesitating.  It seems like 
every time I take a kitty to the vet, he or she is sicker after.  I know 
this is nuts, but I fear that I will hear some awful prognosis.  Am I 
harming Carolina by not taking her in?

I don't think I'm very rational right now.  Things that happened with docs 
and my mom are clouding my judgment.

Sharon
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Carolina to Vet or Not?

[Sharon Siders]

Friends,
 
Carolina is throwing up bile, yesterday some undigested food and then bile.  There was some hair and a bit of dried baby's breath in it this morning.  she is eating and drinking and roaming around as usual.
 
The vet wanted me to bring her in, but I'm hesitating.  It seems like every time I take a kitty to the vet, he or she is sicker after.  I know this is nuts, but I fear that I will hear some awful prognosis.  Am I harming Carolina by not taking her in?
 
I don't think I'm very rational right now.  Things that happened with docs and my mom are clouding my judgment.
 
Sharon
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