RE: Great news about my court case - get yourself a lawyer

2006-01-09 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








I agree, even when calling to get some
public records, unless you are an attorney, they really dont take care
of you that well or quickly ---
I also think that if you dont have an attorney, you dont know
that you have an option to fight against them --- I only knew because Greg told
me that I could from the very beginning.. so when my permit was denied at the
first time, I think that most of the people would have thought that they dont
have any other options but to surrender their animals which is
sooo wrong! Also, I think that in Albuquerque, there was
no one in the past who was trying to fight against the possibility of the
ordinance being unconstitutional before me according to Merry  they all
gave in because they did not better  even a few of my friends who are in
rescue organization (and these are board and president of well known rescue
groups) told me not to fight against it, but find a way to go around it because
I wont win 



But, I was never going to give in --- no
matter what, though --- thats a sort of my weakness as well as strength 
when I feel I am right, I cant compromise it  I need to fight
until I get what I want and sometimes, its not the best way.. being
right is not necessary the most important thing, but doing right
might be more important sometimes  I think the city attorney was shocked
that I prepared so much information at the hearing, as no one in the past had
prepared that much information to fight and he simply got pissed at the end
because I did not give in ---











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1:43 PM
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Subject: Re: Great news about my
court case - get yourself a lawyer





It's so true about people who have attorneys being
treated differently. This is not a very significant example, but it
opened my eyes to this very fact and changed the way I pursue disputes.
On one of the many relocations of my youth, I actually had a job waiting for me
in NY city. The company I would be working for paid for my moving
expenses and I hired Mayflower to haul my stuff from CA to NJ. I had
neatly marked all my boxes and when the drivers arrived they wouldn't wait for
me to inspect all the boxes. I signed off, but I included a note saying
that I had not inspected everything. Sure enough several of the boxes
marked tools were missing. (Another lesson is to mark your
boxes in code!). My significant other and I fought for months with the moving
company, through phone calls and letters, each time they would put us
off. (We were insured for loss and damage btw). Finally we spoke to
an attorney about it. While we were in the attorney's office, after a 10
minute conversation mind you, he picked up the phone and that quick we were
okayed a check to cover our losses! Made me want to spit!
Nina

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No offense taken. Merry and I
actually talked for a while about this very thing-- how the city attorney and
the city council started acting differently once Merry announced to them she
was going to take the case and put together a team of lawyers to fight it. She
said the team was going to be her, the criminal attorney Hideyo
found, and Hideyo's boyfriend, but she did not say that to the city people. She
just said a team would be litigating it, and she said they all
seemed very surprised and then started acting cooperative. I myself, in
my jobs as a legal aid lawyer, have seen over and over how differently people
with lawyers are treated. It is really shocking and appalling. One
of my jobs right now entails going through and reading most of the hearing
decisions that come out of the MA (I am telecommuting) welfare system
(administrative appeal decisions) to try to get a sense of systemic problems
that are occurring and to post relevant decisions on a website where legal aid
lawyers can see and use them. Most of the decisions are in cases where
the person did not have a lawyer. There are so many decisions that are
denied appeals, where if the person had had a lawyer I know they would have won
because they were completely in the right. It makes me very depressed.





Michelle












Re: Great news about my court case - get yourself a lawyer

2006-01-09 Thread Lernermichelle




Hideyo, we are so much alike. Someone I worked with actually said that this 
is my weakness as well as my strength, in those very words. I think it makes me 
a good lawyer, but I do not always get along with people all that well!

Michelle

In a message dated 1/9/2006 12:09:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
But, I was never 
  going to give in --- no matter what, though --- that’s a sort of my weakness 
  as well as strength – when I feel I am right, I can’t compromise it – I need 
  to fight until I get what I want and sometimes, it’s not the best way.. 
  




Re: Great news about my court case - get yourself a lawyer

2006-01-08 Thread Nina




It's so true about people who have attorneys being treated
differently. This is not a very significant example, but it opened my
eyes to this very fact and changed the way I pursue disputes. On one
of the many relocations of my youth, I actually had a job waiting for
me in NY city. The company I would be working for paid for my moving
expenses and I hired Mayflower to haul my stuff from CA to NJ. I had
neatly marked all my boxes and when the drivers arrived they wouldn't
wait for me to inspect all the boxes. I signed off, but I included a
note saying that I had not inspected everything. Sure enough several
of the boxes marked "tools" were missing. (Another lesson is to mark
your boxes in code!). My significant other and I fought for months
with the moving company, through phone calls and letters, each time
they would put us off. (We were insured for loss and damage btw).
Finally we spoke to an attorney about it. While we were in the
attorney's office, after a 10 minute conversation mind you, he picked
up the phone and that quick we were okayed a check to cover our
losses! Made me want to spit!
Nina

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  
  
  No offense taken. Merry and I actually talked for a while about
this very thing-- how the city attorney and the city council started
acting differently once Merry announced to them she was going to take
the case and put together a team of lawyers to fight it. She said the
"team" was going to be her, the criminal attorney Hideyo found, and
Hideyo's boyfriend, but she did not say that to the city people. She
just said a "team" would be litigating it, and she said they all seemed
very surprised and then started acting cooperative. I myself, in my
jobs as a legal aid lawyer, have seen over and over how differently
people with lawyers are treated. It is really shocking and appalling.
One of my jobs right now entails going through and reading most of the
hearing decisions that come out of the MA (I am telecommuting) welfare
system (administrative appeal decisions) to try to get a sense of
systemic problems that are occurring and to post relevant decisions on
a website where legal aid lawyers can see and use them. Most of the
decisions are in cases where the person did not have a lawyer. There
are so many decisions that are denied appeals, where if the person had
had a lawyer I know they would have won because they were completely in
the right. It makes me very depressed.
  Michelle