Re: Add Keisha to CS?

2007-08-26 Thread catatonya
I'm sorry for your loss, Laurie.
  tonya

laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Belinda, can Keisha be added to the CandleLight service list, please?
She was not feline leukemia positive
Died 7.14.07
Thanks,
Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: "Belinda" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry 
butpleaseindulge


> I used epogen (same thing as procrit) when my Bailey was anemic along 
> with prenisolone because we suspected the virus was in his bone marrow 
> supressing his immune system and interfering with blood building. We 
> reversed his anemia with this combo.
>
> Procrit used in humans is at a much, much higher does and shouldn't scare 
> anyone off from using it with cats that are anemic, any cats with CRF end 
> up using it in the later stages as the kidney disease eventually 
> interferes with the production of erythropoietin which the Epogen, Procrit 
> and the new drug called Aranesp help to produce.
>
> In my mind your cat WILL die if the enemia isn't reversed period, so if 
> there is something that may help what have you got to lose??
>
> Below paragraph my opinion (based on what my vet told me when I asked her 
> about this):
>
> PS. Has your cat been on a minimum 4 to 6 week course of Doxocycline for 
> possible hemobartonella? Even if he tested negative he should have gotten 
> this (my opinion). Hemo is very hard to test for and many cats tests 
> negative again and again before it is finally found. Though they are 
> never cured of hemo the doxy will put it into remission. If they don't 
> have it it isn't going to hurt to get the doxy but my very well save their 
> life if they have an undiagnosed case of hemo.
>
> -- 
>
> Belinda
> happiness is being owned by cats ...
>
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Add Keisha to CS?

2007-08-25 Thread laurieskatz

Belinda, can Keisha be added to the CandleLight service list, please?
She was not feline leukemia positive
Died 7.14.07
Thanks,
Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 1:10 PM
Subject: Re: Typical course of a dying FELV kitty? long letter- sorry 
butpleaseindulge



I used epogen (same thing as procrit) when my Bailey was anemic along 
with prenisolone because we suspected the virus was in his bone marrow 
supressing his immune system and interfering with blood building.  We 
reversed his anemia with this combo.


Procrit used in humans is at a much, much higher does and shouldn't scare 
anyone off from using it with cats that are anemic, any cats with CRF end 
up using it in the later stages as the kidney disease eventually 
interferes with the production of erythropoietin which the Epogen, Procrit 
and the new drug called Aranesp help to produce.


In my mind your cat WILL die if the enemia isn't reversed period, so if 
there is something that may help what have you got to lose??


Below paragraph my opinion (based on what my vet told me when I asked her 
about this):


PS.  Has your cat been on a minimum 4 to 6 week course of Doxocycline for 
possible hemobartonella?  Even if he tested negative he should have gotten 
this (my opinion).  Hemo is very hard to test for and many cats tests 
negative again and again before it is finally found.  Though they are 
never cured of hemo the doxy will put it into remission.  If they don't 
have it it isn't going to hurt to get the doxy but my very well save their 
life if they have an undiagnosed case of hemo.


--

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com

Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
http://adopt.bemikitties.com

FeLV Candlelight Service
http://bemikitties.com/cls

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Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

2007-07-22 Thread catatonya
I'm glad Isabella is feeling better.  That's interesting about sheep having 
this virus.  I would definitely pursue that.  I hope no one else catches this.
   
  tonya

laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Good news first. Isabella is doing great. We are starting to decrease 
the prednisone. She is still on tramadal for pain and clavamox. She is a 
trooper and we are pleased with her progress. She isn't crying out, we aren't 
seeing tremors!
   
  Keisha died from adenomatosis. This is very rare, vet's know little about it. 
It acts like cancer and is always fatal. The suspected underlying cause is a 
toxin or chronic viral infection. Her lungs were infiltrated. If it was viral, 
it is contagious and my other 5 are at risk. I am waiting for a call from the 
specialist. She may not be back until Monday. 
   
  Laurie



Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

2007-07-21 Thread linda gata
The transfer Factor plus you can get it from at the site of 4Life
  Maricarmen

Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  ok, I know it has been posted before, but where do you get the tansfer 
factor?

Sorry, too much going on to remember. :(


Susan J. DuBose >^..^<
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www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
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Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
Purring welcomes of soft applause,
Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
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- Original Message - 
From: "laurieskatz" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update


Thanks Glenda! I am recalling that Keisha ate Lamb and Brown Rice canned
food for a year or two. Lamb and sheep hmm. Maybe something there..? Who
knows. I can only guess. What I found on the internet was that sheep get
this and it's contagious and viral and fatal within days or weeks. I will
check out the human info, too.
I am just loving my kitties and spending as much time as possible. My
transfer factor (ordered 2 yesterday ~ one for Isabella and one for my
kitties in case. Ordered Vit C powdered for Isabella, too, so have that
here. Did the Colostrum for Teddy 4 years ago so familiar with that ~ it's
also an ingredient in Transfer Factor.
More as I learn more.
Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: "glenda Goodman" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update





   
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Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

2007-07-20 Thread Susan Dubose
ok, I know it has been posted before, but where do you get the tansfer 
factor?

Sorry, too much going on to remember.  :(


Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
 Trajan Tennent




- Original Message - 
From: "laurieskatz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update


Thanks Glenda! I am recalling that Keisha ate Lamb and Brown Rice canned
food for a year or two. Lamb and sheep hmm. Maybe something there..? Who
knows. I can only guess. What I found on the internet was that sheep get
this and it's contagious and viral and fatal within days or weeks. I will
check out the human info, too.
I am just loving my kitties and spending as much time as possible. My
transfer factor (ordered 2 yesterday ~ one for Isabella and one for my
kitties in case. Ordered Vit C powdered for Isabella, too, so have that
here. Did the Colostrum for Teddy 4 years ago so familiar with that ~ it's
also an ingredient in Transfer Factor.
More as I learn more.
Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: "glenda Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update





Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

2007-07-20 Thread wendy
Hi Laurie,

I'm glad that Isabella is doing so much better.  You must be relieved.  

I was surprised to learn Keisha's necropsy results.  I'd never heard of 
adenomatosis before.  What exactly is it and does it only affect the lungs?  
How do they get the toxin or viral infection/where does it come from?  It 
sounds like an overall catch-all for things the vets don't otherwise know how 
to diagnose.  What were her symptoms?  It's really scary to think there's 
nothing that can be done for it.  I am praying that your others did not 
contract it from her.  Please keep us posted.

:)
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Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

2007-07-20 Thread laurieskatz
Thanks Glenda! I am recalling that Keisha ate Lamb and Brown Rice canned 
food for a year or two. Lamb and sheep hmm. Maybe something there..? Who 
knows. I can only guess. What I found on the internet was that sheep get 
this and it's contagious and viral and fatal within days or weeks. I will 
check out the human info, too.
I am just loving my kitties and spending as much time as possible. My 
transfer factor (ordered 2 yesterday ~ one for Isabella and one for my 
kitties in case. Ordered Vit C powdered for Isabella, too, so have that 
here. Did the Colostrum for Teddy 4 years ago so familiar with that ~ it's 
also an ingredient in Transfer Factor.

More as I learn more.
Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: "glenda Goodman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update



Laurie,
I'm so glad your Isabella is feeling better. I know
this is a huge relief! As for Keisha, I hope you are
able to get some "real" answers soon.  I'm sure I'm
not the only one who has  tried to google ADENOMATOSIS
and was left even more confused than when you just
introduced this term as the cause of Keisha's death...
Again, I'm so sorry for you and Keisha...Thank you for
helping all of us  learn all we can on how to best
care for our cats...I know you are stressing, worried
about your other five, until you learn if this was a
viral condition.I do imagine your vet is in the dark
as it does seem there is not much out there on this
subject, so do not get too scared until you are
actually able to talk to someone a bit more qualified
in that area...I guess I do not put a lot of stock in
one vet's opinion...and you have a long weekend to
worry...Meanwhile, just build up your kitties' immune
systems...can't go wrong there...
I did notice that the vets I have dealt with here, in
Nebraska, at best, have told me exactly, what I have
found myself, online and of course, this group of
people, have so far, shared and directed me towards
better information than either of my vets.
I did notice there are a lot of listings for different
types of adenomatosis in humans, affecting different
areas of the body...I did not see anywhere, where it
was always fatal or acts like cancer...Those words,
coming from a vet that admits he does not really know
much, are scary words to live with over the
weekend...I know you are worried about your other
kitties, just wanted to comfort you a bit...Glenda

--- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Good news first. Isabella is doing great. We are
starting to decrease the prednisone. She is still on
tramadal for pain and clavamox. She is a trooper and
we are pleased with her progress. She isn't crying
out, we aren't seeing tremors!

Keisha died from adenomatosis. This is very rare,
vet's know little about it. It acts like cancer and
is always fatal. The suspected underlying cause is a
toxin or chronic viral infection. Her lungs were
infiltrated. If it was viral, it is contagious and
my other 5 are at risk. I am waiting for a call from
the specialist. She may not be back until Monday.

Laurie






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Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

2007-07-20 Thread glenda Goodman
Laurie, 
I'm so glad your Isabella is feeling better. I know
this is a huge relief! As for Keisha, I hope you are
able to get some "real" answers soon.  I'm sure I'm
not the only one who has  tried to google ADENOMATOSIS
and was left even more confused than when you just
introduced this term as the cause of Keisha's death...
Again, I'm so sorry for you and Keisha...Thank you for
helping all of us  learn all we can on how to best
care for our cats...I know you are stressing, worried
about your other five, until you learn if this was a
viral condition.I do imagine your vet is in the dark
as it does seem there is not much out there on this
subject, so do not get too scared until you are
actually able to talk to someone a bit more qualified
in that area...I guess I do not put a lot of stock in
one vet's opinion...and you have a long weekend to
worry...Meanwhile, just build up your kitties' immune
systems...can't go wrong there...
I did notice that the vets I have dealt with here, in
Nebraska, at best, have told me exactly, what I have
found myself, online and of course, this group of
people, have so far, shared and directed me towards
better information than either of my vets.
I did notice there are a lot of listings for different
types of adenomatosis in humans, affecting different
areas of the body...I did not see anywhere, where it
was always fatal or acts like cancer...Those words,
coming from a vet that admits he does not really know
much, are scary words to live with over the
weekend...I know you are worried about your other
kitties, just wanted to comfort you a bit...Glenda  

--- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Good news first. Isabella is doing great. We are
> starting to decrease the prednisone. She is still on
> tramadal for pain and clavamox. She is a trooper and
> we are pleased with her progress. She isn't crying
> out, we aren't seeing tremors!
> 
> Keisha died from adenomatosis. This is very rare,
> vet's know little about it. It acts like cancer and
> is always fatal. The suspected underlying cause is a
> toxin or chronic viral infection. Her lungs were
> infiltrated. If it was viral, it is contagious and
> my other 5 are at risk. I am waiting for a call from
> the specialist. She may not be back until Monday. 
> 
> Laurie



   

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Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

2007-07-20 Thread Jane Lyons

Laurie
 Maitake-DMG liquid is the supplement my vet (homeopath) recommended 
for immune support.


Glad that Isabella is so much better.

Jane





On Jul 20, 2007, at 5:28 PM, laurieskatz wrote:


Good thought. Thank-you. I have L-lysine. Is that what you would use???
 

- Original Message -
From: Marylyn
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

Start building their immune system so they have extra to fight 
anything that may be thrown at them.

 
 
 
 
 
 
 If you have men who 
will exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
 will deal likewise 
with their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis

- Original Message -
From: laurieskatz
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:52 PM
Subject: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

Good news first. Isabella is doing great. We are starting to 
decrease the prednisone. She is still on tramadal for pain and 
clavamox. She is a trooper and we are pleased with her progress. She 
isn't crying out, we aren't seeing tremors!

 
Keisha died from adenomatosis. This is very rare, vet's know little 
about it. It acts like cancer and is always fatal. The suspected 
underlying cause is a toxin or chronic viral infection. Her lungs 
were infiltrated. If it was viral, it is contagious and my other 5 
are at risk. I am waiting for a call from the specialist. She may 
not be back until Monday. 

 
Laurie

Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

2007-07-20 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
Isn't that what Colostrum is for also?  Immune support?  I guess it's also known as "Mother's Milk?"  My holistic vet put Monkee on that when we first went to see her.  She provided the bottle of capsules to break open and mix in his food.  But they have it at health food/natural health stores too.  But I don't know if the veterinary and human grades are any different?  The actual "experts" on this site should know more

-Caroline 


From: "laurieskatz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: Subject: Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella updateDate: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 15:28:25 -0600



Good thought. Thank-you. I have L-lysine. Is that what you would use???
 

- Original Message - 
From: Marylyn 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

Start building their immune system so they have extra to fight anything that may be thrown at them.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their fellow man.  St. Francis

- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:52 PM
Subject: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

Good news first. Isabella is doing great. We are starting to decrease the prednisone. She is still on tramadal for pain and clavamox. She is a trooper and we are pleased with her progress. She isn't crying out, we aren't seeing tremors!
 
Keisha died from adenomatosis. This is very rare, vet's know little about it. It acts like cancer and is always fatal. The suspected underlying cause is a toxin or chronic viral infection. Her lungs were infiltrated. If it was viral, it is contagious and my other 5 are at risk. I am waiting for a call from the specialist. She may not be back until Monday. 
 
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Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

2007-07-20 Thread Marylyn
Just Born with Colostrum, Transfer Factor and any good vitamins especially C.  
I would consider talking to an alternative vet asap too.  And I would feed them 
the best possible diet with lots of protein.  





 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 4:28 PM
  Subject: Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update


  Good thought. Thank-you. I have L-lysine. Is that what you would use???

- Original Message - 
From: Marylyn 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 3:18 PM
Subject: Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update


Start building their immune system so they have extra to fight anything 
that may be thrown at them.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
  St. 
Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:52 PM
  Subject: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update


  Good news first. Isabella is doing great. We are starting to decrease the 
prednisone. She is still on tramadal for pain and clavamox. She is a trooper 
and we are pleased with her progress. She isn't crying out, we aren't seeing 
tremors!

  Keisha died from adenomatosis. This is very rare, vet's know little about 
it. It acts like cancer and is always fatal. The suspected underlying cause is 
a toxin or chronic viral infection. Her lungs were infiltrated. If it was 
viral, it is contagious and my other 5 are at risk. I am waiting for a call 
from the specialist. She may not be back until Monday. 

  Laurie

Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

2007-07-20 Thread laurieskatz
Good thought. Thank-you. I have L-lysine. Is that what you would use???

  - Original Message - 
  From: Marylyn 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 3:18 PM
  Subject: Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update


  Start building their immune system so they have extra to fight anything that 
may be thrown at them.






   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
   from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who 
   will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
St. Francis
- Original Message - 
From: laurieskatz 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:52 PM
Subject: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update


Good news first. Isabella is doing great. We are starting to decrease the 
prednisone. She is still on tramadal for pain and clavamox. She is a trooper 
and we are pleased with her progress. She isn't crying out, we aren't seeing 
tremors!

Keisha died from adenomatosis. This is very rare, vet's know little about 
it. It acts like cancer and is always fatal. The suspected underlying cause is 
a toxin or chronic viral infection. Her lungs were infiltrated. If it was 
viral, it is contagious and my other 5 are at risk. I am waiting for a call 
from the specialist. She may not be back until Monday. 

Laurie

Re: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

2007-07-20 Thread Marylyn
Start building their immune system so they have extra to fight anything that 
may be thrown at them.






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, July 20, 2007 2:52 PM
  Subject: Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update


  Good news first. Isabella is doing great. We are starting to decrease the 
prednisone. She is still on tramadal for pain and clavamox. She is a trooper 
and we are pleased with her progress. She isn't crying out, we aren't seeing 
tremors!

  Keisha died from adenomatosis. This is very rare, vet's know little about it. 
It acts like cancer and is always fatal. The suspected underlying cause is a 
toxin or chronic viral infection. Her lungs were infiltrated. If it was viral, 
it is contagious and my other 5 are at risk. I am waiting for a call from the 
specialist. She may not be back until Monday. 

  Laurie

Keisha necropsy results and Isabella update

2007-07-20 Thread laurieskatz
Good news first. Isabella is doing great. We are starting to decrease the 
prednisone. She is still on tramadal for pain and clavamox. She is a trooper 
and we are pleased with her progress. She isn't crying out, we aren't seeing 
tremors!

Keisha died from adenomatosis. This is very rare, vet's know little about it. 
It acts like cancer and is always fatal. The suspected underlying cause is a 
toxin or chronic viral infection. Her lungs were infiltrated. If it was viral, 
it is contagious and my other 5 are at risk. I am waiting for a call from the 
specialist. She may not be back until Monday. 

Laurie

Re: Keisha

2007-07-16 Thread Gina WN
I'm very sorry about Keisha.  Gentle Bridge vibes to her.
   
  Gina

"Rosenfeldt, Diane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Laurie --
   
  I am so sorry about Keisha, how terrible and sudden.  I know you must be 
feeling devastated and traumatized.  Take comfort in knowing she knew how loved 
she was.  Hugs to you.
   
  Diane R.


-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Monkee is gone ~ so is Keisha


  
  Carol, I am so sorry for your loss and pain. Prayers for safe travels for 
Monkee's soul. Monkee is free now but nothing can compensate for the hole in 
your heart and life. I know. My beloved Keisha died Saturday completely 
unexpectedly. She went into respiratory distress here at home. I rushed her to 
the ER clinic. They put her in the oxygen tank and she appeared comfortable ~ 
she was not on her side and was no longer open mouth breathing. They planned to 
keep her in the tank for 2 hours and then send her home. When she went into 
respiratory distress again, they tried to save her ~ intubated her and gave her 
CPR but could not. After she died, I held her for 2 hours and stroked her fur.I 
am in shock and it doesn't seem real. I didn't want to leave her. We are doing 
a necropsy. She was not feline leukemia positive.
  May your Higher Power hold you as mine is holding me.
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
  From: Caroline Kaufmann 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:47 AM
  Subject: Monkee is gone
  

  My beloved cat Monkee passed last night in my arms while I held him with 
my Mom standing next to my side.  At about 2:30 a.m.  
   
  We were going to take him to Dr. Maier's for euthanasia this morning at 8:00 
a.m.  I thought he could make it until then and that he wouldn't want to go to 
a strange emergency vet clinic he'd never been to before for his passing.  I 
didn't know he was that bad.  I feel so bad.  It was so horrible.  He was 
having some trouble breathing, but I was usually able to calm him down by 
holding him and giving him flower essences.  He had begun to have trouble 
walking and he would cry at me really loudly when he wasn't able to do 
something he wanted to do because his brain was not getting enough oxygen (like 
walk around).  I didn't want him to be in pain or suffer and I feel like I 
failed him.  
   
  He did go really quick, but I was hysterical as it was happening.  We were on 
my bed and I was holding him.  He took a last gasp of air and then he stopped.  
When his body when limp, I felt like I might die too.  I think the only thing 
that helped me and my mom was that she has "rescue remedy" with her and we both 
took it right away.  It sounds odd to say that, but immediately after it 
happened, I felt a sense of peace-- for him.  I think the rescue remedy helped 
my breathing at that time.  I just held him afterwards and talked to him  and 
pet him and kissed him for about two hours.  I told him how wonderful he was 
and that I would never be the same without him.  I walked around the house, sat 
with him on the porch he loved so much and took him outside for his last time 
to hold him while sitting on the front steps.  
   
  I have never had an animal die in my arms like that and to have it be my best 
friend-- the best companion I've ever had...my heart just feels like it's 
wrenching in half.  I feel guilty and traumatized.  I am having a hard time 
erasing the memories of his passing.  When I close my eyes, I see his face as 
he took his last breath.  I don't how to recover from that.
  I've never been lonely since I had Monkee and now that he's gone, that 
loneliness is crashing in.  
   
  I hope all of you are able to continue to care for your cats and give them 
the peace and love that they so desperately need.  I admire those of you who 
take care of multiple FelV cats and have lost some in the past and continue to 
keep doing the work that you do.  My thoughts and my prayers are now with all 
of you and your babies.  I felt like I didn't have the mental energy to devote 
many of my prayers in the past few weeks to any cat other than Monkee, but I 
will be praying for you now.
   
  I also wanted to remind everyone that you never really know the power of what 
love can do for a cat like Monkee, until you experience it.  When I found him, 
he was a crazy, dirty, little ragamuffin eating doves, baby rabbits, and 
whatever else he could catch in the courtyard of my law school apartment 
complex in Northern Ky 4 years ago.  And four years and 1 month ago, I couldn't 
take his living it up in "the killing fields"- as I called it- anymore.  It 
took so long to get him to be a somewhat normal cat.  Something bad must have 
happened to him 

Re: Keisha

2007-07-16 Thread C & J
I am sorry for your sudden loss of Keisha.  It must be a terrible shock to lose 
a baby so unexpectedly.  At least she didn't have to endure a long illness 
before she passed.  I know that is the way I would want to go, very quickly.

Cassandra
  - Original Message - 
  From: Rosenfeldt, Diane 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:13 AM
  Subject: Keisha


  Laurie --

  I am so sorry about Keisha, how terrible and sudden.  I know you must be 
feeling devastated and traumatized.  Take comfort in knowing she knew how loved 
she was.  Hugs to you.

  Diane R.



--
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz
  Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:08 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: Monkee is gone ~ so is Keisha


  Carol, I am so sorry for your loss and pain. Prayers for safe travels for 
Monkee's soul. Monkee is free now but nothing can compensate for the hole in 
your heart and life. I know. My beloved Keisha died Saturday completely 
unexpectedly. She went into respiratory distress here at home. I rushed her to 
the ER clinic. They put her in the oxygen tank and she appeared comfortable ~ 
she was not on her side and was no longer open mouth breathing. They planned to 
keep her in the tank for 2 hours and then send her home. When she went into 
respiratory distress again, they tried to save her ~ intubated her and gave her 
CPR but could not. After she died, I held her for 2 hours and stroked her fur.I 
am in shock and it doesn't seem real. I didn't want to leave her. We are doing 
a necropsy. She was not feline leukemia positive.
  May your Higher Power hold you as mine is holding me.
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: Caroline Kaufmann 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:47 AM
Subject: Monkee is gone


My beloved cat Monkee passed last night in my arms while I held him with my 
Mom standing next to my side.  At about 2:30 a.m.  

We were going to take him to Dr. Maier's for euthanasia this morning at 
8:00 a.m.  I thought he could make it until then and that he wouldn't want to 
go to a strange emergency vet clinic he'd never been to before for his passing. 
 I didn't know he was that bad.  I feel so bad.  It was so horrible.  He was 
having some trouble breathing, but I was usually able to calm him down by 
holding him and giving him flower essences.  He had begun to have trouble 
walking and he would cry at me really loudly when he wasn't able to do 
something he wanted to do because his brain was not getting enough oxygen (like 
walk around).  I didn't want him to be in pain or suffer and I feel like I 
failed him.  

He did go really quick, but I was hysterical as it was happening.  We were 
on my bed and I was holding him.  He took a last gasp of air and then he 
stopped.  When his body when limp, I felt like I might die too.  I think the 
only thing that helped me and my mom was that she has "rescue remedy" with her 
and we both took it right away.  It sounds odd to say that, but immediately 
after it happened, I felt a sense of peace-- for him.  I think the rescue 
remedy helped my breathing at that time.  I just held him afterwards and talked 
to him  and pet him and kissed him for about two hours.  I told him how 
wonderful he was and that I would never be the same without him.  I walked 
around the house, sat with him on the porch he loved so much and took him 
outside for his last time to hold him while sitting on the front steps.  

I have never had an animal die in my arms like that and to have it be my 
best friend-- the best companion I've ever had...my heart just feels like it's 
wrenching in half.  I feel guilty and traumatized.  I am having a hard time 
erasing the memories of his passing.  When I close my eyes, I see his face as 
he took his last breath.  I don't how to recover from that.
I've never been lonely since I had Monkee and now that he's gone, that 
loneliness is crashing in.  

I hope all of you are able to continue to care for your cats and give them 
the peace and love that they so desperately need.  I admire those of you who 
take care of multiple FelV cats and have lost some in the past and continue to 
keep doing the work that you do.  My thoughts and my prayers are now with all 
of you and your babies.  I felt like I didn't have the mental energy to devote 
many of my prayers in the past few weeks to any cat other than Monkee, but I 
will be praying for you now.

I also wanted to remind everyone that you never really know the power of 
what love can do for a cat like Monkee, until you experience it.  When I found 
him, he was a crazy, dirty, little ragamuffin eating doves, baby rabbits, and 
whatever else he could catch in the court

Re: Monkee is gone ~ so is Keisha

2007-07-16 Thread glenda Goodman
Laurie, I am very sorry your precious Keisha has
passed away. I can feel your pain knowing when it
becomes my turn to lose a beloved kitty family member,
I will be a complete basket case.I will be trying to
put my grief into words too...
 The good news is the people on this site are so full
of love and have made such a wonderful difference in
so many cat's lives. Being a kitty in this world is
not easy when you think about the horrible lives most
kitties live...It is an incredibly lucky kitty that is
blessed by people like the people on this site. I
guess all any of us can do is just be as loving and
kind to all living creatures as we are blessed to
touch. This does not mean just kitties, but everything
innocent and dear... Glenda Larsen
--- laurieskatz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Carol, I am so sorry for your loss and pain. Prayers
> for safe travels for Monkee's soul. Monkee is free
> now but nothing can compensate for the hole in your
> heart and life. I know. My beloved Keisha died
> Saturday completely unexpectedly. She went into
> respiratory distress here at home. I rushed her to
> the ER clinic. They put her in the oxygen tank and
> she appeared comfortable ~ she was not on her side
> and was no longer open mouth breathing. They planned
> to keep her in the tank for 2 hours and then send
> her home. When she went into respiratory distress
> again, they tried to save her ~ intubated her and
> gave her CPR but could not. After she died, I held
> her for 2 hours and stroked her fur.I am in shock
> and it doesn't seem real. I didn't want to leave
> her. We are doing a necropsy. She was not feline
> leukemia positive.
> May your Higher Power hold you as mine is holding
> me.
> Laurie
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: Caroline Kaufmann 
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>   Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:47 AM
>   Subject: Monkee is gone
> 
> 
>   My beloved cat Monkee passed last night in my arms
> while I held him with my Mom standing next to my
> side.  At about 2:30 a.m.  
> 
>   We were going to take him to Dr. Maier's for
> euthanasia this morning at 8:00 a.m.  I thought he
> could make it until then and that he wouldn't want
> to go to a strange emergency vet clinic he'd never
> been to before for his passing.  I didn't know he
> was that bad.  I feel so bad.  It was so horrible. 
> He was having some trouble breathing, but I was
> usually able to calm him down by holding him and
> giving him flower essences.  He had begun to have
> trouble walking and he would cry at me really loudly
> when he wasn't able to do something he wanted to do
> because his brain was not getting enough oxygen
> (like walk around).  I didn't want him to be in pain
> or suffer and I feel like I failed him.  
> 
>   He did go really quick, but I was hysterical as it
> was happening.  We were on my bed and I was holding
> him.  He took a last gasp of air and then he
> stopped.  When his body when limp, I felt like I
> might die too.  I think the only thing that helped
> me and my mom was that she has "rescue remedy" with
> her and we both took it right away.  It sounds odd
> to say that, but immediately after it happened, I
> felt a sense of peace-- for him.  I think the rescue
> remedy helped my breathing at that time.  I just
> held him afterwards and talked to him  and pet him
> and kissed him for about two hours.  I told him how
> wonderful he was and that I would never be the same
> without him.  I walked around the house, sat with
> him on the porch he loved so much and took him
> outside for his last time to hold him while sitting
> on the front steps.  
> 
>   I have never had an animal die in my arms like
> that and to have it be my best friend-- the best
> companion I've ever had...my heart just feels like
> it's wrenching in half.  I feel guilty and
> traumatized.  I am having a hard time erasing the
> memories of his passing.  When I close my eyes, I
> see his face as he took his last breath.  I don't
> how to recover from that.
>   I've never been lonely since I had Monkee and now
> that he's gone, that loneliness is crashing in.  
> 
>   I hope all of you are able to continue to care for
> your cats and give them the peace and love that they
> so desperately need.  I admire those of you who take
> care of multiple FelV cats and have lost some in the
> past and continue to keep doing the work that you
> do.  My thoughts and my prayers are now with all of
> you and your babies.  I felt like I didn't have the
> mental energy to devote many of my prayers in the
> past few weeks to any cat other than Monkee, but I
> will be praying for you now.
> 
> 

Re: Monkee is gone ~ so is Keisha

2007-07-16 Thread Susan Dubose
I am sorry, Laura.

My thoughts are w/ you & Keisha.

Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:07 AM
  Subject: Re: Monkee is gone ~ so is Keisha


  Carol, I am so sorry for your loss and pain. Prayers for safe travels for 
Monkee's soul. Monkee is free now but nothing can compensate for the hole in 
your heart and life. I know. My beloved Keisha died Saturday completely 
unexpectedly. She went into respiratory distress here at home. I rushed her to 
the ER clinic. They put her in the oxygen tank and she appeared comfortable ~ 
she was not on her side and was no longer open mouth breathing. They planned to 
keep her in the tank for 2 hours and then send her home. When she went into 
respiratory distress again, they tried to save her ~ intubated her and gave her 
CPR but could not. After she died, I held her for 2 hours and stroked her fur.I 
am in shock and it doesn't seem real. I didn't want to leave her. We are doing 
a necropsy. She was not feline leukemia positive.
  May your Higher Power hold you as mine is holding me.
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: Caroline Kaufmann 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:47 AM
Subject: Monkee is gone


My beloved cat Monkee passed last night in my arms while I held him with my 
Mom standing next to my side.  At about 2:30 a.m.  

We were going to take him to Dr. Maier's for euthanasia this morning at 
8:00 a.m.  I thought he could make it until then and that he wouldn't want to 
go to a strange emergency vet clinic he'd never been to before for his passing. 
 I didn't know he was that bad.  I feel so bad.  It was so horrible.  He was 
having some trouble breathing, but I was usually able to calm him down by 
holding him and giving him flower essences.  He had begun to have trouble 
walking and he would cry at me really loudly when he wasn't able to do 
something he wanted to do because his brain was not getting enough oxygen (like 
walk around).  I didn't want him to be in pain or suffer and I feel like I 
failed him.  

He did go really quick, but I was hysterical as it was happening.  We were 
on my bed and I was holding him.  He took a last gasp of air and then he 
stopped.  When his body when limp, I felt like I might die too.  I think the 
only thing that helped me and my mom was that she has "rescue remedy" with her 
and we both took it right away.  It sounds odd to say that, but immediately 
after it happened, I felt a sense of peace-- for him.  I think the rescue 
remedy helped my breathing at that time.  I just held him afterwards and talked 
to him  and pet him and kissed him for about two hours.  I told him how 
wonderful he was and that I would never be the same without him.  I walked 
around the house, sat with him on the porch he loved so much and took him 
outside for his last time to hold him while sitting on the front steps.  

I have never had an animal die in my arms like that and to have it be my 
best friend-- the best companion I've ever had...my heart just feels like it's 
wrenching in half.  I feel guilty and traumatized.  I am having a hard time 
erasing the memories of his passing.  When I close my eyes, I see his face as 
he took his last breath.  I don't how to recover from that.
I've never been lonely since I had Monkee and now that he's gone, that 
loneliness is crashing in.  

I hope all of you are able to continue to care for your cats and give them 
the peace and love that they so desperately need.  I admire those of you who 
take care of multiple FelV cats and have lost some in the past and continue to 
keep doing the work that you do.  My thoughts and my prayers are now with all 
of you and your babies.  I felt like I didn't have the mental energy to devote 
many of my prayers in the past few weeks to any cat other than Monkee, but I 
will be praying for you now.

I also wanted to remind everyone that you never really know the power of 
what love can do for a cat like Monkee, until you experience it.  When I found 
him, he was a crazy, dirty, little ragamuffin eating doves, baby rabbits, and 
whatever else he could catch in the courtyard of my law school apartment 
complex in Northern Ky 4 years ago.  And four years and 1 month ago, I couldn't 
take his living it up in "the killing fields"- as I called it- anymore.  I

Re: Keisha

2007-07-16 Thread catatonya
Laurie,
   
  I'm so sorry for your loss.  It hurts so much when it's unexpected.  :(
  tonya

"Rosenfeldt, Diane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Laurie --
   
  I am so sorry about Keisha, how terrible and sudden.  I know you must be 
feeling devastated and traumatized.  Take comfort in knowing she knew how loved 
she was.  Hugs to you.
   
  Diane R.


-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Monkee is gone ~ so is Keisha


  
  Carol, I am so sorry for your loss and pain. Prayers for safe travels for 
Monkee's soul. Monkee is free now but nothing can compensate for the hole in 
your heart and life. I know. My beloved Keisha died Saturday completely 
unexpectedly. She went into respiratory distress here at home. I rushed her to 
the ER clinic. They put her in the oxygen tank and she appeared comfortable ~ 
she was not on her side and was no longer open mouth breathing. They planned to 
keep her in the tank for 2 hours and then send her home. When she went into 
respiratory distress again, they tried to save her ~ intubated her and gave her 
CPR but could not. After she died, I held her for 2 hours and stroked her fur.I 
am in shock and it doesn't seem real. I didn't want to leave her. We are doing 
a necropsy. She was not feline leukemia positive.
  May your Higher Power hold you as mine is holding me.
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
  From: Caroline Kaufmann 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:47 AM
  Subject: Monkee is gone
  

  My beloved cat Monkee passed last night in my arms while I held him with 
my Mom standing next to my side.  At about 2:30 a.m.  
   
  We were going to take him to Dr. Maier's for euthanasia this morning at 8:00 
a.m.  I thought he could make it until then and that he wouldn't want to go to 
a strange emergency vet clinic he'd never been to before for his passing.  I 
didn't know he was that bad.  I feel so bad.  It was so horrible.  He was 
having some trouble breathing, but I was usually able to calm him down by 
holding him and giving him flower essences.  He had begun to have trouble 
walking and he would cry at me really loudly when he wasn't able to do 
something he wanted to do because his brain was not getting enough oxygen (like 
walk around).  I didn't want him to be in pain or suffer and I feel like I 
failed him.  
   
  He did go really quick, but I was hysterical as it was happening.  We were on 
my bed and I was holding him.  He took a last gasp of air and then he stopped.  
When his body when limp, I felt like I might die too.  I think the only thing 
that helped me and my mom was that she has "rescue remedy" with her and we both 
took it right away.  It sounds odd to say that, but immediately after it 
happened, I felt a sense of peace-- for him.  I think the rescue remedy helped 
my breathing at that time.  I just held him afterwards and talked to him  and 
pet him and kissed him for about two hours.  I told him how wonderful he was 
and that I would never be the same without him.  I walked around the house, sat 
with him on the porch he loved so much and took him outside for his last time 
to hold him while sitting on the front steps.  
   
  I have never had an animal die in my arms like that and to have it be my best 
friend-- the best companion I've ever had...my heart just feels like it's 
wrenching in half.  I feel guilty and traumatized.  I am having a hard time 
erasing the memories of his passing.  When I close my eyes, I see his face as 
he took his last breath.  I don't how to recover from that.
  I've never been lonely since I had Monkee and now that he's gone, that 
loneliness is crashing in.  
   
  I hope all of you are able to continue to care for your cats and give them 
the peace and love that they so desperately need.  I admire those of you who 
take care of multiple FelV cats and have lost some in the past and continue to 
keep doing the work that you do.  My thoughts and my prayers are now with all 
of you and your babies.  I felt like I didn't have the mental energy to devote 
many of my prayers in the past few weeks to any cat other than Monkee, but I 
will be praying for you now.
   
  I also wanted to remind everyone that you never really know the power of what 
love can do for a cat like Monkee, until you experience it.  When I found him, 
he was a crazy, dirty, little ragamuffin eating doves, baby rabbits, and 
whatever else he could catch in the courtyard of my law school apartment 
complex in Northern Ky 4 years ago.  And four years and 1 month ago, I couldn't 
take his living it up in "the killing fields"- as I called it- anymore.  It 
took so long to get him to be a somewhat normal cat.  Something 

RE: Keisha too

2007-07-16 Thread Melissa Lind
Laurie:

 

How sudden and shocking. I'm so sorry for you. I hope you can take comfort
in you happy memories, but right now just take time to be sad and grieve.
Keisha was blessed to have such a loving home.

 

Melissa



Re: Monkee is gone ~ so is Keisha

2007-07-16 Thread Caroline Kaufmann
I am sorry for your loss too.  I guess that is what they would have done with Monkee if we could have made it to the emergency vet in time, but when his respiratory distress hit, I knew we wouldn't make it even up from the bed, so I just held him, then he was gone.  But we would have had to euthensize him either way because we were fighting a losing battle.  I couldn't have gone through this again with another blood transfusion.  The blood transfusion did give him a little over two weeks, but when it wore off, it really wore off.  I wish I had known he was going to decline so rapidly and if I had, we would have done things differently.  But then again, I don't think Monkee would have wanted to go any other way then in the bed with me holding him.
I will keep you in my thoughts too.
Thanks,
Caroline   


From: "laurieskatz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: Subject: Re: Monkee is gone ~ so is KeishaDate: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 10:07:53 -0600



Carol, I am so sorry for your loss and pain. Prayers for safe travels for Monkee's soul. Monkee is free now but nothing can compensate for the hole in your heart and life. I know. My beloved Keisha died Saturday completely unexpectedly. She went into respiratory distress here at home. I rushed her to the ER clinic. They put her in the oxygen tank and she appeared comfortable ~ she was not on her side and was no longer open mouth breathing. They planned to keep her in the tank for 2 hours and then send her home. When she went into respiratory distress again, they tried to save her ~ intubated her and gave her CPR but could not. After she died, I held her for 2 hours and stroked her fur.I am in shock and it doesn't seem real. I didn't want to leave her. We are doing a necropsy. She was not feline leukemia positive.
May your Higher Power hold you as mine is holding me.
Laurie

- Original Message - 
From: Caroline Kaufmann 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:47 AM
Subject: Monkee is gone



My beloved cat Monkee passed last night in my arms while I held him with my Mom standing next to my side.  At about 2:30 a.m.  
 
We were going to take him to Dr. Maier's for euthanasia this morning at 8:00 a.m.  I thought he could make it until then and that he wouldn't want to go to a strange emergency vet clinic he'd never been to before for his passing.  I didn't know he was that bad.  I feel so bad.  It was so horrible.  He was having some trouble breathing, but I was usually able to calm him down by holding him and giving him flower essences.  He had begun to have trouble walking and he would cry at me really loudly when he wasn't able to do something he wanted to do because his brain was not getting enough oxygen (like walk around).  I didn't want him to be in pain or suffer and I feel like I failed him.  
 
He did go really quick, but I was hysterical as it was happening.  We were on my bed and I was holding him.  He took a last gasp of air and then he stopped.  When his body when limp, I felt like I might die too.  I think the only thing that helped me and my mom was that she has "rescue remedy" with her and we both took it right away.  It sounds odd to say that, but immediately after it happened, I felt a sense of peace-- for him.  I think the rescue remedy helped my breathing at that time.  I just held him afterwards and talked to him  and pet him and kissed him for about two hours.  I told him how wonderful he was and that I would never be the same without him.  I walked around the house, sat with him on the porch he loved so much and took him outside for his last time to hold him while sitting on the front steps.  
 
I have never had an animal die in my arms like that and to have it be my best friend-- the best companion I've ever had...my heart just feels like it's wrenching in half.  I feel guilty and traumatized.  I am having a hard time erasing the memories of his passing.  When I close my eyes, I see his face as he took his last breath.  I don't how to recover from that.
I've never been lonely since I had Monkee and now that he's gone, that loneliness is crashing in.  
 
I hope all of you are able to continue to care for your cats and give them the peace and love that they so desperately need.  I admire those of you who take care of multiple FelV cats and have lost some in the past and continue to keep doing the work that you do.  My thoughts and my prayers are now with all of you and your babies.  I felt like I didn't have the mental energy to devote many of my prayers in the past few weeks to any cat other than Monkee, but I will be praying for you now.
 
I also wanted to remind everyone that you never really know the power of what love can do for a cat like Monkee, until you experience it.  When I found him, he was a crazy, dirty, little ragamuffin eating doves, baby rabbits, and whatever else 

Keisha

2007-07-16 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane
Laurie --
 
I am so sorry about Keisha, how terrible and sudden.  I know you must be
feeling devastated and traumatized.  Take comfort in knowing she knew
how loved she was.  Hugs to you.
 
Diane R.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of laurieskatz
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 11:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Monkee is gone ~ so is Keisha


Carol, I am so sorry for your loss and pain. Prayers for safe travels
for Monkee's soul. Monkee is free now but nothing can compensate for the
hole in your heart and life. I know. My beloved Keisha died Saturday
completely unexpectedly. She went into respiratory distress here at
home. I rushed her to the ER clinic. They put her in the oxygen tank and
she appeared comfortable ~ she was not on her side and was no longer
open mouth breathing. They planned to keep her in the tank for 2 hours
and then send her home. When she went into respiratory distress again,
they tried to save her ~ intubated her and gave her CPR but could not.
After she died, I held her for 2 hours and stroked her fur.I am in shock
and it doesn't seem real. I didn't want to leave her. We are doing a
necropsy. She was not feline leukemia positive.
May your Higher Power hold you as mine is holding me.
Laurie

- Original Message - 
From: Caroline Kaufmann <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:47 AM
Subject: Monkee is gone

My beloved cat Monkee passed last night in my arms while I held
him with my Mom standing next to my side.  At about 2:30 a.m.  
 
We were going to take him to Dr. Maier's for euthanasia this
morning at 8:00 a.m.  I thought he could make it until then and that he
wouldn't want to go to a strange emergency vet clinic he'd never been to
before for his passing.  I didn't know he was that bad.  I feel so bad.
It was so horrible.  He was having some trouble breathing, but I was
usually able to calm him down by holding him and giving him flower
essences.  He had begun to have trouble walking and he would cry at me
really loudly when he wasn't able to do something he wanted to do
because his brain was not getting enough oxygen (like walk around).  I
didn't want him to be in pain or suffer and I feel like I failed him.  
 
He did go really quick, but I was hysterical as it was
happening.  We were on my bed and I was holding him.  He took a last
gasp of air and then he stopped.  When his body when limp, I felt like I
might die too.  I think the only thing that helped me and my mom was
that she has "rescue remedy" with her and we both took it right away.
It sounds odd to say that, but immediately after it happened, I felt a
sense of peace-- for him.  I think the rescue remedy helped my breathing
at that time.  I just held him afterwards and talked to him  and pet him
and kissed him for about two hours.  I told him how wonderful he was and
that I would never be the same without him.  I walked around the house,
sat with him on the porch he loved so much and took him outside for his
last time to hold him while sitting on the front steps.  
 
I have never had an animal die in my arms like that and to have
it be my best friend-- the best companion I've ever had...my heart just
feels like it's wrenching in half.  I feel guilty and traumatized.  I am
having a hard time erasing the memories of his passing.  When I close my
eyes, I see his face as he took his last breath.  I don't how to recover
from that.
I've never been lonely since I had Monkee and now that he's
gone, that loneliness is crashing in.  
 
I hope all of you are able to continue to care for your cats and
give them the peace and love that they so desperately need.  I admire
those of you who take care of multiple FelV cats and have lost some in
the past and continue to keep doing the work that you do.  My thoughts
and my prayers are now with all of you and your babies.  I felt like I
didn't have the mental energy to devote many of my prayers in the past
few weeks to any cat other than Monkee, but I will be praying for you
now.
 
I also wanted to remind everyone that you never really know the
power of what love can do for a cat like Monkee, until you experience
it.  When I found him, he was a crazy, dirty, little ragamuffin eating
doves, baby rabbits, and whatever else he could catch in the courtyard
of my law school apartment complex in Northern Ky 4 years ago.  And four
years and 1 month ago, I couldn't take his living it up in "the killing
fields"- as I called it- anymore.  It took so long to get him to be a
somewhat normal cat.  Something bad must have happened to him because he
was already neutered when I found him, so he had to have belong to
someone.  He was

Re: Monkee is gone ~ so is Keisha

2007-07-16 Thread laurieskatz
Carol, I am so sorry for your loss and pain. Prayers for safe travels for 
Monkee's soul. Monkee is free now but nothing can compensate for the hole in 
your heart and life. I know. My beloved Keisha died Saturday completely 
unexpectedly. She went into respiratory distress here at home. I rushed her to 
the ER clinic. They put her in the oxygen tank and she appeared comfortable ~ 
she was not on her side and was no longer open mouth breathing. They planned to 
keep her in the tank for 2 hours and then send her home. When she went into 
respiratory distress again, they tried to save her ~ intubated her and gave her 
CPR but could not. After she died, I held her for 2 hours and stroked her fur.I 
am in shock and it doesn't seem real. I didn't want to leave her. We are doing 
a necropsy. She was not feline leukemia positive.
May your Higher Power hold you as mine is holding me.
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Caroline Kaufmann 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:47 AM
  Subject: Monkee is gone


  My beloved cat Monkee passed last night in my arms while I held him with my 
Mom standing next to my side.  At about 2:30 a.m.  

  We were going to take him to Dr. Maier's for euthanasia this morning at 8:00 
a.m.  I thought he could make it until then and that he wouldn't want to go to 
a strange emergency vet clinic he'd never been to before for his passing.  I 
didn't know he was that bad.  I feel so bad.  It was so horrible.  He was 
having some trouble breathing, but I was usually able to calm him down by 
holding him and giving him flower essences.  He had begun to have trouble 
walking and he would cry at me really loudly when he wasn't able to do 
something he wanted to do because his brain was not getting enough oxygen (like 
walk around).  I didn't want him to be in pain or suffer and I feel like I 
failed him.  

  He did go really quick, but I was hysterical as it was happening.  We were on 
my bed and I was holding him.  He took a last gasp of air and then he stopped.  
When his body when limp, I felt like I might die too.  I think the only thing 
that helped me and my mom was that she has "rescue remedy" with her and we both 
took it right away.  It sounds odd to say that, but immediately after it 
happened, I felt a sense of peace-- for him.  I think the rescue remedy helped 
my breathing at that time.  I just held him afterwards and talked to him  and 
pet him and kissed him for about two hours.  I told him how wonderful he was 
and that I would never be the same without him.  I walked around the house, sat 
with him on the porch he loved so much and took him outside for his last time 
to hold him while sitting on the front steps.  

  I have never had an animal die in my arms like that and to have it be my best 
friend-- the best companion I've ever had...my heart just feels like it's 
wrenching in half.  I feel guilty and traumatized.  I am having a hard time 
erasing the memories of his passing.  When I close my eyes, I see his face as 
he took his last breath.  I don't how to recover from that.
  I've never been lonely since I had Monkee and now that he's gone, that 
loneliness is crashing in.  

  I hope all of you are able to continue to care for your cats and give them 
the peace and love that they so desperately need.  I admire those of you who 
take care of multiple FelV cats and have lost some in the past and continue to 
keep doing the work that you do.  My thoughts and my prayers are now with all 
of you and your babies.  I felt like I didn't have the mental energy to devote 
many of my prayers in the past few weeks to any cat other than Monkee, but I 
will be praying for you now.

  I also wanted to remind everyone that you never really know the power of what 
love can do for a cat like Monkee, until you experience it.  When I found him, 
he was a crazy, dirty, little ragamuffin eating doves, baby rabbits, and 
whatever else he could catch in the courtyard of my law school apartment 
complex in Northern Ky 4 years ago.  And four years and 1 month ago, I couldn't 
take his living it up in "the killing fields"- as I called it- anymore.  It 
took so long to get him to be a somewhat normal cat.  Something bad must have 
happened to him because he was already neutered when I found him, so he had to 
have belong to someone.  He was deathly afraid of men and it took until 
probably about this past year for that fear to almost subside.  I don't think 
anyone else in my life (other than myself) believed that he'd ever be trusting, 
cuddling, sweet, lfunny, love-bug that he was with me.  The first time I turned 
on my radio and my tv after I had brought him into my life, he freaked out and 
hid under the bed for hours.  After lots of love and being spoiled rotten, and 
having four years to experience as many things as possible, he had tr