Question about URI contagion

[Caroline Kaufmann]

Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious?  I picked up a B/W approx. 6 mth 
old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd been suffering from a 
URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't 
getting better.  Poor thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye 
from rubbing at it so much.  I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 
3 weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of 
severity.  He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after treatment with 
Amoxy and Terramycin.  Well, when he was added to the "condo" at the store to 
be "on display" for adoption, I guess the stress of that shortly thereafter 
brought the eye problems back and he's been suffering off and on since then.  I 
tried to stop by as much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard 
b/c the store closes at 6:00.  He is also one of those cats "prone" to tear 
stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he looks really 
bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks 
bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to take him home and put in him the 
downstairs room and just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and 
LeeRoy.  Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox 
(and Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness 
kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of supplements.  
He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other foster kittens 
have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and away from him  But, I 
know he's lonely and needs some kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may 
remember each other!  He's doing SO MUCH better- it's unreal.  I know it's 
probably mostly because he is having fun, not stressed, eating like a piggy and 
getting love (that probably helps more than the meds...sigh).  So, if he is no 
longer having inflamed red eye tissue and green discharge, is he okay to mingle 
now?  He's not sneezing and he doesn't really have any eye discharge at all, 
besides his regular eye boogers that he is prone to getting.  He does not act 
like a sick cat (runs around like a maniac).  I haven't seen green eye funk 
since the day after I brought him home (Sunday) b/c he improved almost 
instantly.  I just wanted to know if anyone knows if he's been on the 
antibiotic almost a week now, & showing no signs of infection, can he be 
mingled with the other two kittens for play-time, or should I wait longer?
Thanks,
Caroline 
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RE: Question about URI contagion

[Caroline Kaufmann]

Gosh- could that time frame be anymore vague!  2-17 days is a long time period! 
 I will ask my mom how she feels about it...she is very protective of LeeRoy- 
even tho she's not a cat-person- b/c he's the sweetest little boy ever- the 
nicest cat in the world- a real "people-cat" and she wouldn't want him to come 
down with the funk.  I know technically they were probably already exposed to 
some degree since I don't have an iso room- altho this downstairs room is about 
as isolated as you can get without having a separate ac/heat, etc.  And Yoda 
and the B/W originally had the same URI anyway.  Yoda is the only one from that 
group of 4 kittens (Metro AC orphans but not a litter) that the URI eye 
symptoms haven't come back on yet since he kicked it in September (the other 2 
have been adopted ("Tippi" and "GoGo"-- I like to think it's b/c I spent A LOT 
of time cleaning them with kitty wipes, cleaning ears- Tippi's were the worst 
I'd seen in my 30 years- and my dad was a vet!, brushing them, pumping them 
full of high-qual food and supplements and giving them exercise and love...so 
frankly, they looked better than most of the other cats!)  I have not let loose 
of Yoda though (added him to the condos for adoption)- even tho I know someone 
would grab him up b/c he's "buff"-colored and freaking adorable, altho he is 
kind of an a$$, but the cuteness makes up for it!  So he's been living the high 
life since I took him in so he certainly hasn't had any stress that would bring 
the URI back out.  I even moved and the little booger loved his new room and 
got to truly "bird watch" for the first time and he never even missed a beat!  
So much for moving causing stress on my cats!
-Caroline 


Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:47:54 -0600From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: [EMAIL 
PROTECTED]: Re: Question about URI contagionOddly enough, I just picked up a 
fact sheet that says incubation is between 2-17 days.  I don't know if that 
helps you.
On Nov 16, 2007 9:40 AM, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the others.  
They've probably already been exposed anyhow.  Sounds like he's responded well 
to your loving care.  FYI - I also had good luck with a dose or two of 
Zithromax for kittens with URI. 

Gloria







On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote:

Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious?  I picked up a B/W approx. 6 mth 
old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd been suffering from a 
URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't 
getting better.  Poor thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye 
from rubbing at it so much.  I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 
3 weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of 
severity.  He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after treatment with 
Amoxy and Terramycin.  Well, when he was added to the "condo" at the store to 
be "on display" for adoption, I guess the stress of that shortly thereafter 
brought the eye problems back and he's been suffering off and on since then.  I 
tried to stop by as much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard 
b/c the store closes at 6:00.  He is also one of those cats "prone" to tear 
stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he looks really 
bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks 
bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to take him home and put in him the 
downstairs room and just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and 
LeeRoy.  Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox 
(and Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness 
kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of supplements.  
He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other foster kittens 
have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and away from him  But, I 
know he's lonely and needs some kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may 
remember each other!  He's doing SO MUCH better- it's unreal.  I know it's 
probably mostly because he is having fun, not stressed, eating like a piggy and 
getting love (that probably helps more than the meds...sigh).   So, if he is no 
longer having inflamed red eye tissue and green discharge, is he okay to mingle 
now?  He's not sneezing and he doesn't really have any eye discharge at all, 
besides his regular eye boogers that he is prone to getting.  He does not act 
like a sick cat (runs around like a maniac).  I haven't seen green eye funk 
since the day after I brought him home (Sunday) b/c he improved almost 
instantly.  I just wanted to know if anyone knows if he's been on the 
antibiotic almost a week now, & showing no signs of infection, can he be 
mingled with the other two kittens for play-time, or should I wait longer? 
Thanks,Caroline 

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RE: Question about URI contagion

[Caroline Kaufmann]

That sounds like good advice!  Usually, the agency I work with doesn't treat 
with oral antibiotics for URI eye symptons, unless accompanied by the sneezing 
(which the 4 kittens I had at labor day were all sneezin like crazy).  Tho the 
B/W wasn't sneezing when I brought him home, his eyes looks so bad in the condo 
that I wanted to really knock out the URI, so I decided to treat with an 
antibiotic, but not Amoxy b/c he had that back in Sept.  That was my own 
decision- the green eye discharge had me worried.  I don't think I will keep 
him on the Clavamox more than 7 days tho, I just don't think it's necessary 
anymore.  The agency I work with also seems to only have powdered Amoxy and 
Clavamox for treating URIs?  I'm sure we could get Zithromax from one of our 
vets, but if it's more expensive...well, you know how that goes.  However, the 
woman who has been in charge of the group and is clearly burned out and 
over-loaded (I have complained about her before)-- I took the kittens in 
originally b/c she had no business having kittens at her house- she is going to 
back off and step down and has realized she needs to stop being an 
over-controlling hindrence basically.  Which is going to open the door to lots 
of things and fresh thinking from me, with people who aren't over-controlling 
that are willing to implement my ideas and better delegate the work...so 
hopefully, I will be able to push for some better treatment protocols in the 
very near future.  The reins have already been loosened a lot and I've already 
been able to enact some positive changes.  
-Caroline > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:13:20 -0500> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: Question about URI contagion> > in 
persians, who are predisposed to uri symptoms at any time, especially > in 
shelter or new situations (stress, no noses to speak of anyway), > zithromax 
has become the drug of choice: we don't even bother with the > others for cats 
we pull from shelters, we just go for the zithro.> > the other thing is that 
there's many causes for runny noses and goopy > eyes, and unless you actually 
culture out the emissions, you can't be > sure what you're dealing with--might 
just be that kitty's reaction to > stress, might be allergies , might be a 
virus or bacteria. so once > they're responding and feeling better and want to 
play with the others, > i figure that's the best medicine as long as they 
aren't sneezing > constantly!> > MC> > > Gloria Lane wrote:> > If he were at my 
house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the > > others. They've probably 
already been exposed anyhow. Sounds like > > he's responded well to your loving 
care. FYI - I also had good luck > > with a dose or two of Zithromax for 
kittens with URI.> >> > Gloria> >> >> >> > On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, 
Caroline Kaufmann wrote:> >> >> Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious? 
I picked up a B/W > >> approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last 
Sat. b/c > >> he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no > 
>> sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better. Poor > >> thing 
had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing > >> at it so 
much. I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3 > >> weeks when I 
took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of > >> severity. He was 
the oldest and he got well the fastest after > >> treatment with Amoxy and 
Terramycin. Well, when he was added to the > >> "condo" at the store to be "on 
display" for adoption, I guess the > >> stress of that shortly thereafter 
brought the eye problems back and > >> he's been suffering off and on since 
then. I tried to stop by as > >> much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, 
but it's hard b/c the > >> store closes at 6:00. He is also one of those cats 
"prone" to tear > >> stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his 
face, he > >> looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk 
(he > >> looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to 
> >> take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix him > >> 
at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy. Well, I've had him > >> since 
last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and Terramycin in > >> the eyes) and 
I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness kitten)- > >> they only get dry at 
the store- and pumping him full of supplements. > >> He gets to run arou

Re: Question about URI contagion

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in persians, who are predisposed to uri symptoms at any time, especially 
in shelter or new situations (stress, no noses to speak of anyway), 
zithromax has become the drug of choice: we don't even bother with the 
others for cats we pull from shelters, we just go for the zithro.


the other thing is that there's many causes for runny noses and goopy 
eyes, and unless you actually culture out the emissions, you can't be 
sure what you're dealing with--might just be that kitty's reaction to 
stress, might be allergies , might be a virus or bacteria. so once 
they're responding and feeling better and want to play with the others, 
i figure that's the best medicine as long as they aren't sneezing 
constantly!


MC


Gloria Lane wrote:
If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the 
others.  They've probably already been exposed anyhow.  Sounds like 
he's responded well to your loving care.  FYI - I also had good luck 
with a dose or two of Zithromax for kittens with URI.


Gloria



On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote:

Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious?  I picked up a B/W 
approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c 
he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no 
sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better.  Poor 
thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing 
at it so much.  I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3 
weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of 
severity.  He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after 
treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin.  Well, when he was added to the 
"condo" at the store to be "on display" for adoption, I guess the 
stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and 
he's been suffering off and on since then.  I tried to stop by as 
much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the 
store closes at 6:00.  He is also one of those cats "prone" to tear 
stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he 
looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he 
looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to 
take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix him 
at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy.  Well, I've had him 
since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and Terramycin in 
the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness kitten)- 
they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of supplements.  
He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other foster 
kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and 
away from him  But, I know he's lonely and needs some 
kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may remember each other!  He's 
doing SO MUCH better- it's unreal.  I know it's probably mostly 
because he is having fun, not stressed, eating like a piggy and 
getting love (that probably helps more than the meds...sigh).  *So, 
if he is no longer having inflamed red eye tissue and green 
discharge, is he okay to mingle now?  He's not sneezing and he 
doesn't really have any eye discharge at all*, besides his regular 
eye boogers that he is prone to getting.  He does not act like a sick 
cat (runs around like a maniac).  I haven't seen green eye funk since 
the day after I brought him home (Sunday) b/c he improved almost 
instantly.  I just wanted to know if anyone knows if he's been on the 
antibiotic almost a week now, & showing no signs of infection, can he 
be mingled with the other two kittens for play-time, or should I wait 
longer?

Thanks,
Caroline 



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RE: Question about URI contagion

[MacKenzie, Kerry N.]

Hi Caroline,
I can't answer your Q (tho I'd imagine the infectious period is well
over) but just wanted to say how wonderful that your little foster is
doing so well in your home. Yup, I've no doubt all the love and care
he's getting from you was the cure. What a lucky kitty that he found
you. Thanks for everything you do Caroline. Kerry M.

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Question about URI contagion


Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious?  I picked up a B/W
approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd
been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for
2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better.  Poor thing had started to
rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing at it so much.  I had
this same kitten back at labor day for about 3 weeks when I took in 4
kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of severity.  He was the
oldest and he got well the fastest after treatment with Amoxy and
Terramycin.  Well, when he was added to the "condo" at the store to be
"on display" for adoption, I guess the stress of that shortly thereafter
brought the eye problems back and he's been suffering off and on since
then.  I tried to stop by as much as possible to clean and treat his
eyes, but it's hard b/c the store closes at 6:00.  He is also one of
those cats "prone" to tear stains regardless of a URI and with the white
fur on his face, he looks really bad being on display with tear stains
and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency),
so I decided to take him home and put in him the downstairs room and
just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy.
Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and
Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness
kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of
supplements.  He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the
other foster kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in
there and away from him  But, I know he's lonely and needs some
kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may remember each other!  He's doing
SO MUCH better- it's unreal.  I know it's probably mostly because he is
having fun, not stressed, eating like a piggy and getting love (that
probably helps more than the meds...sigh).  So, if he is no longer
having inflamed red eye tissue and green discharge, is he okay to mingle
now?  He's not sneezing and he doesn't really have any eye discharge at
all, besides his regular eye boogers that he is prone to getting.  He
does not act like a sick cat (runs around like a maniac).  I haven't
seen green eye funk since the day after I brought him home (Sunday) b/c
he improved almost instantly.  I just wanted to know if anyone knows if
he's been on the antibiotic almost a week now, & showing no signs of
infection, can he be mingled with the other two kittens for play-time,
or should I wait longer?
Thanks,
Caroline 


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Re: Question about URI contagion

[Gloria Lane]

If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the  
others.  They've probably already been exposed anyhow.  Sounds like  
he's responded well to your loving care.  FYI - I also had good luck  
with a dose or two of Zithromax for kittens with URI.


Gloria



On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote:

Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious?  I picked up a B/W  
approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c  
he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no  
sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better.  Poor  
thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing  
at it so much.  I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3  
weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees  
of severity.  He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after  
treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin.  Well, when he was added to the  
"condo" at the store to be "on display" for adoption, I guess the  
stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and  
he's been suffering off and on since then.  I tried to stop by as  
much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the  
store closes at 6:00.  He is also one of those cats "prone" to tear  
stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he  
looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he  
looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided  
to take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix  
him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy.  Well, I've  
had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and  
Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food  
(Wellness kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him  
full of supplements.  He gets to run around the house when I am home  
b/c the other foster kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay  
closed in there and away from him  But, I know he's lonely and needs  
some kitty-socialization and he and Yoda may remember each other!   
He's doing SO MUCH better- it's unreal.  I know it's probably mostly  
because he is having fun, not stressed, eating like a piggy and  
getting love (that probably helps more than the meds...sigh).  So,  
if he is no longer having inflamed red eye tissue and green  
discharge, is he okay to mingle now?  He's not sneezing and he  
doesn't really have any eye discharge at all, besides his regular  
eye boogers that he is prone to getting.  He does not act like a  
sick cat (runs around like a maniac).  I haven't seen green eye funk  
since the day after I brought him home (Sunday) b/c he improved  
almost instantly.  I just wanted to know if anyone knows if he's  
been on the antibiotic almost a week now, & showing no signs of  
infection, can he be mingled with the other two kittens for play- 
time, or should I wait longer?

Thanks,
Caroline

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Re: Question about URI contagion

[Kelley Saveika]

Oddly enough, I just picked up a fact sheet that says incubation is between
2-17 days.  I don't know if that helps you.

On Nov 16, 2007 9:40 AM, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the others.
>  They've probably already been exposed anyhow.  Sounds like he's responded
> well to your loving care.  FYI - I also had good luck with a dose or two of
> Zithromax for kittens with URI.
> Gloria
>
>
>
>  On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote:
>
>  Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious?  I picked up a B/W approx.
> 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd been
> suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for 2-3 weeks
> and it just wasn't getting better.  Poor thing had started to rub off the
> fur around his one eye from rubbing at it so much.  I had this same kitten
> back at labor day for about 3 weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had
> URIs in various degrees of severity.  He was the oldest and he got well the
> fastest after treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin.  Well, when he was added
> to the "condo" at the store to be "on display" for adoption, I guess the
> stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and he's
> been suffering off and on since then.  I tried to stop by as much as
> possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the store closes at
> 6:00.  He is also one of those cats "prone" to tear stains regardless of a
> URI and with the white fur on his face, he looks really bad being on display
> with tear stains and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks bad for our
> no-kill agency), so I decided to take him home and put in him the downstairs
> room and just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy.
> Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and
> Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness
> kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of
> supplements.  He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other
> foster kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there and
> away from him  But, I know he's lonely and needs some kitty-socialization
> and he and Yoda may remember each other!  He's doing SO MUCH better- it's
> unreal.  I know it's probably mostly because he is having fun, not stressed,
> eating like a piggy and getting love (that probably helps more than the
> meds...sigh).  *So, if he is no longer having inflamed red eye tissue and
> green discharge, is he okay to mingle now?  He's not sneezing and he doesn't
> really have any eye discharge at all*, besides his regular eye boogers
> that he is prone to getting.  He does not act like a sick cat (runs around
> like a maniac).  I haven't seen green eye funk since the day after I brought
> him home (Sunday) b/c he improved almost instantly.  I just wanted to know
> if anyone knows if he's been on the antibiotic almost a week now, & showing
> no signs of infection, can he be mingled with the other two kittens for
> play-time, or should I wait longer?
> Thanks,
> Caroline
>
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Re: Question about URI contagion

[TenHouseCats]

and while it's more expensive, it is usually only a 3-day course, and it
rarely needs to be repeated. it's a very nice drug.

On Nov 16, 2007 12:01 PM, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I order zithromax from www.1drugstore-online.com  Much cheaper than US
> prices.
>
> *Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:
>
> That sounds like good advice!  Usually, the agency I work with doesn't
> treat with oral antibiotics for URI eye symptons, unless accompanied by the
> sneezing (which the 4 kittens I had at labor day were all sneezin like
> crazy).  Tho the B/W wasn't sneezing when I brought him home, his eyes looks
> so bad in the condo that I wanted to really knock out the URI, so I decided
> to treat with an antibiotic, but not Amoxy b/c he had that back in Sept.
> That was my own decision- the green eye discharge had me worried.  I don't
> think I will keep him on the Clavamox more than 7 days tho, I just don't
> think it's necessary anymore.  The agency I work with also seems to only
> have powdered Amoxy and Clavamox for treating URIs?  I'm sure we could get
> Zithromax from one of our vets, but if it's more expensive...well, you know
> how that goes.  However, the woman who has been in charge of the group and
> is clearly burned out and over-loaded (I have complained about her before)--
> I took the kittens in originally b/c she had no business having kittens at
> her house- she is going to back off and step down and has realized she needs
> to stop being an over-controlling hindrence basically.  Which is going to
> open the door to lots of things and fresh thinking from me, with people who
> aren't over-controlling that are willing to implement my ideas and better
> delegate the work...so hopefully, I will be able to push for some better
> treatment protocols in the very near future.  The reins have already been
> loosened a lot and I've already been able to enact some positive changes.
> -Caroline
>
> > Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:13:20 -0500
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: Question about URI contagion
> >
> > in persians, who are predisposed to uri symptoms at any time, especially
>
> > in shelter or new situations (stress, no noses to speak of anyway),
> > zithromax has become the drug of choice: we don't even bother with the
> > others for cats we pull from shelters, we just go for the zithro.
> >
> > the other thing is that there's many causes for runny noses and goopy
> > eyes, and unless you actually culture out the emissions, you can't be
> > sure what you're dealing with--might just be that kitty's reaction to
> > stress, might be allergies , might be a virus or bacteria. so once
> > they're responding and feeling better and want to play with the others,
> > i figure that's the best medicine as long as they aren't sneezing
> > constantly!
> >
> > MC
> >
> >
> > Gloria Lane wrote:
> > > If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the
> > > others. They've probably already been exposed anyhow. Sounds like
> > > he's responded well to your loving care. FYI - I also had good luck
> > > with a dose or two of Zithromax for kittens with URI.
> > >
> > > Gloria
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote:
> > >
> > >> Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious? I picked up a B/W
> > >> approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c
> > >> he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no
> > >> sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better. Poor
> > >> thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing
> > >> at it so much. I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3
> > >> weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of
>
> > >> severity. He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after
> > >> treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin. Well, when he was added to the
> > >> "condo" at the store to be "on display" for adoption, I guess the
> > >> stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and
> > >> he's been suffering off and on since then. I tried to stop by as
> > >> much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the
> > >> store closes at 6:00. He is also one of those cats "prone" to tear
> > >>

RE: Question about URI contagion

[Susan Hoffman]

I order zithromax from www.1drugstore-online.com  Much cheaper than US prices.

Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  .hmmessage P  {  margin:0px;  
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That sounds like good advice!  Usually, the agency I work with doesn't treat 
with oral antibiotics for URI eye symptons, unless accompanied by the sneezing 
(which the 4 kittens I had at labor day were all sneezin like crazy).  Tho the 
B/W wasn't sneezing when I brought him home, his eyes looks so bad in the condo 
that I wanted to really knock out the URI, so I decided to treat with an 
antibiotic, but not Amoxy b/c he had that back in Sept.  That was my own 
decision- the green eye discharge had me worried.  I don't think I will keep 
him on the Clavamox more than 7 days tho, I just don't think it's necessary 
anymore.  The agency I work with also seems to only have powdered Amoxy and 
Clavamox for treating URIs?  I'm sure we could get Zithromax from one of our 
vets, but if it's more expensive...well, you know
 how that goes.  However, the woman who has been in charge of the group and is 
clearly burned out and over-loaded (I have complained about her before)-- I 
took the kittens in originally b/c she had no business having kittens at her 
house- she is going to back off and step down and has realized she needs to 
stop being an over-controlling hindrence basically.  Which is going to open the 
door to lots of things and fresh thinking from me, with people who aren't 
over-controlling that are willing to implement my ideas and better delegate the 
work...so hopefully, I will be able to push for some better treatment protocols 
in the very near future.  The reins have already been loosened a lot and I've 
already been able to enact some positive changes.  
-Caroline 

> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 11:13:20 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Question about URI contagion
> 
> in persians, who are predisposed to uri symptoms at any time, especially 
> in shelter or new situations (stress, no noses to speak of anyway), 
> zithromax has become the drug of choice: we don't even bother with the 
> others for cats we pull from shelters, we just go for the zithro.
> 
> the other thing is that there's many causes for runny noses and goopy 
> eyes, and unless you actually culture out the emissions, you can't be 
> sure what you're dealing with--might just be that kitty's reaction to 
> stress, might be allergies , might be a virus or bacteria. so once 
> they're responding and feeling better and want to play with the others, 
> i figure that's the best medicine as long as they aren't sneezing 
> constantly!
> 
> MC
> 
> 
> Gloria Lane wrote:
> > If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the 
> > others. They've probably already been exposed anyhow. Sounds like 
> > he's responded well to your loving care. FYI - I also had good luck 
> > with a dose or two of Zithromax for kittens with URI.
> >
> > Gloria
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote:
> >
> >> Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious? I picked up a B/W 
> >> approx. 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c 
> >> he'd been suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no 
> >> sneezing) for 2-3 weeks and it just wasn't getting better. Poor 
> >> thing had started to rub off the fur around his one eye from rubbing 
> >> at it so much. I had this same kitten back at labor day for about 3 
> >> weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had URIs in various degrees of 
> >> severity. He was the oldest and he got well the fastest after 
> >> treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin. Well, when he was added to the 
> >> "condo" at the store to be "on display" for adoption, I guess the 
> >> stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and 
> >> he's been suffering off and on since then. I tried to stop by as 
> >> much as possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the 
> >> store closes at 6:00. He is also one of those cats "prone" to tear 
> >> stains regardless of a URI and with the white fur on his face, he 
> >> looks really bad being on display with tear stains and eye funk (he 
> >> looked sick- which looks bad for our no-kill agency), so I decided to 
> >> take him home and put in him the downstairs room and just not mix him 
> >> at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy. Well, I've had him 
> >> since last 

Re: Question about URI contagion

[Kelley Saveika]

I know, it is quite vague.  I expect it depends on the type of URI.  There
are all sorts of URI so it would make sense incubation periods would be
different.

You may know this based on your veterinary knowledge, but you can find out
what strain of URI it is based on laboratory testing.  I can't imagine
anyone would want to do that though unless it was something life
threatening.

On Nov 16, 2007 10:05 AM, Caroline Kaufmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Gosh- could that time frame be anymore vague!  2-17 days is a long time
> period!  I will ask my mom how she feels about it...she is very protective
> of LeeRoy- even tho she's not a cat-person- b/c he's the sweetest little boy
> ever- the nicest cat in the world- a real "people-cat" and she wouldn't want
> him to come down with the funk.  I know technically they were probably
> already exposed to some degree since I don't have an iso room- altho this
> downstairs room is about as isolated as you can get without having a
> separate ac/heat, etc.  And Yoda and the B/W originally had the same URI
> anyway.  Yoda is the only one from that group of 4 kittens (Metro AC orphans
> but not a litter) that the URI eye symptoms haven't come back on yet since
> he kicked it in September (the other 2 have been adopted ("Tippi" and
> "GoGo"-- I like to think it's b/c I spent A LOT of time cleaning them with
> kitty wipes, cleaning ears- Tippi's were the worst I'd seen in my 30 years-
> and my dad was a vet!, brushing them, pumping them full of high-qual food
> and supplements and giving them exercise and love...so frankly, they looked
> better than most of the other cats!)  I have not let loose of Yoda
> though (added him to the condos for adoption)- even tho I know someone would
> grab him up b/c he's "buff"-colored and freaking adorable, altho he is kind
> of an a$$, but the cuteness makes up for it!  So he's been living the high
> life since I took him in so he certainly hasn't had any stress that would
> bring the URI back out.  I even moved and the little booger loved his new
> room and got to truly "bird watch" for the first time and he never even
> missed a beat!  So much for moving causing stress on my cats!
> -Caroline
>
>
>  --
> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:47:54 -0600
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Question about URI contagion
>
>
> Oddly enough, I just picked up a fact sheet that says incubation is
> between 2-17 days.  I don't know if that helps you.
>
> On Nov 16, 2007 9:40 AM, Gloria Lane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> If he were at my house, I'd probably go ahead and mix him with the others.
>  They've probably already been exposed anyhow.  Sounds like he's responded
> well to your loving care.  FYI - I also had good luck with a dose or two of
> Zithromax for kittens with URI.
> Gloria
>
>
>
>  On Nov 16, 2007, at 9:33 AM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote:
>
>  Does anyone know how long a URI is contagious?  I picked up a B/W approx.
> 6 mth old kitten from the adoption location last Sat. b/c he'd been
> suffering from a URI- mostly affecting the eyes (no sneezing) for 2-3 weeks
> and it just wasn't getting better.  Poor thing had started to rub off the
> fur around his one eye from rubbing at it so much.  I had this same kitten
> back at labor day for about 3 weeks when I took in 4 kittens who all had
> URIs in various degrees of severity.  He was the oldest and he got well the
> fastest after treatment with Amoxy and Terramycin.  Well, when he was added
> to the "condo" at the store to be "on display" for adoption, I guess the
> stress of that shortly thereafter brought the eye problems back and he's
> been suffering off and on since then.  I tried to stop by as much as
> possible to clean and treat his eyes, but it's hard b/c the store closes at
> 6:00.  He is also one of those cats "prone" to tear stains regardless of a
> URI and with the white fur on his face, he looks really bad being on display
> with tear stains and eye funk (he looked sick- which looks bad for our
> no-kill agency), so I decided to take him home and put in him the downstairs
> room and just not mix him at all with my other two fosters Yoda and LeeRoy.
> Well, I've had him since last Sat. and this time, he's on Clavamox (and
> Terramycin in the eyes) and I'm feeding him tons of wet food (Wellness
> kitten)- they only get dry at the store- and pumping him full of
> supplements.  He gets to run around the house when I am home b/c the other
> foster kittens have a big room to romp, so they stay closed in there a