Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
My response was in response to someone who seemed to be saying canine and feline "parvo virus" are the same thing Though I could have misunderstood. On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: > They are not the same virus, but I don’t understand your point in response > to my post. The leukemia virus in cats can cause: > > > > Weight Loss > > Fever > > Imunodeficiency and infections (from, among other things, reduction in > WBC’s) > > Anemia > > Immune-mediated disease > > Reproductive problems > > Gastrointestinal problems > > Neurologic disease > > Platelet disorders > > Lymphadenopathy (enlarged lymph nodes) > > Cancer > > Respiratory and eye infections > > Oral disease > > > > As can be seen from this list, all three cell lines can be affected by the > virus. > > > > This list comes from an article from peteducation.com. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf > Of *Kelley S > *Sent:* October-26-15 1:21 AM > *To:* felvtalk > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol > (Winstrol(R)) > > > > My understanding of panleuk (distemper) and parvo are that they are 2 > different things, that dog parvo may have mutated from panleuk but they are > not the same.but I am not a vet so... > > > > On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Amani Oakley > wrote: > > No – it’s primarily for red cell production. It is used for this in humans > too, with severe cases of genetically-caused anemia. I found it worked on > all three cell lines though, but it was the RBC’s/haematocrit (PCV) values > that bounced back first. I think that because it has stimulating effects on > the bone marrow, this is why it eventually perks up production of white > cells and platelets as well. > > > > As I mentioned in my summary of what happened to Zander, we first noticed > that Winstrol was having a positive effect because his gums started to pink > up. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Maya D'Alessio > *Sent:* October-24-15 7:36 AM > *To:* Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > Question about the Winstrol - is it good for RBC too? or mostly just the > WBC? Has anyone used it in concert with Epogen (Erythropoeitin)? Or used > Epogen instead? > > > > I'm concerned about the paleness of Merlot's gums. He still has decent > energy though. > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
They are not the same virus, but I don’t understand your point in response to my post. The leukemia virus in cats can cause: Weight Loss Fever Imunodeficiency and infections (from, among other things, reduction in WBC’s) Anemia Immune-mediated disease Reproductive problems Gastrointestinal problems Neurologic disease Platelet disorders Lymphadenopathy (enlarged lymph nodes) Cancer Respiratory and eye infections Oral disease As can be seen from this list, all three cell lines can be affected by the virus. This list comes from an article from peteducation.com. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley S Sent: October-26-15 1:21 AM To: felvtalk Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) My understanding of panleuk (distemper) and parvo are that they are 2 different things, that dog parvo may have mutated from panleuk but they are not the same.but I am not a vet so... On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Amani Oakley mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>> wrote: No – it’s primarily for red cell production. It is used for this in humans too, with severe cases of genetically-caused anemia. I found it worked on all three cell lines though, but it was the RBC’s/haematocrit (PCV) values that bounced back first. I think that because it has stimulating effects on the bone marrow, this is why it eventually perks up production of white cells and platelets as well. As I mentioned in my summary of what happened to Zander, we first noticed that Winstrol was having a positive effect because his gums started to pink up. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maya D'Alessio Sent: October-24-15 7:36 AM To: Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) Question about the Winstrol - is it good for RBC too? or mostly just the WBC? Has anyone used it in concert with Epogen (Erythropoeitin)? Or used Epogen instead? I'm concerned about the paleness of Merlot's gums. He still has decent energy though. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R))
My understanding of panleuk (distemper) and parvo are that they are 2 different things, that dog parvo may have mutated from panleuk but they are not the same.but I am not a vet so... On Sat, Oct 24, 2015 at 11:05 AM, Amani Oakley wrote: > No – it’s primarily for red cell production. It is used for this in humans > too, with severe cases of genetically-caused anemia. I found it worked on > all three cell lines though, but it was the RBC’s/haematocrit (PCV) values > that bounced back first. I think that because it has stimulating effects on > the bone marrow, this is why it eventually perks up production of white > cells and platelets as well. > > > > As I mentioned in my summary of what happened to Zander, we first noticed > that Winstrol was having a positive effect because his gums started to pink > up. > > > > Amani > > > > *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > ] *On Behalf Of *Maya D'Alessio > *Sent:* October-24-15 7:36 AM > *To:* Margo; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Feline vaccines was/: Stanozolol (Winstrol(R)) > > > > Question about the Winstrol - is it good for RBC too? or mostly just the > WBC? Has anyone used it in concert with Epogen (Erythropoeitin)? Or used > Epogen instead? > > > > I'm concerned about the paleness of Merlot's gums. He still has decent > energy though. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org