Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-12 Thread ccarlsberg
Hmm... May have gotten spammed...
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I also sent you more info privately because this group has size limitations.

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Thank u soo much! I will ask the vet. :) Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:09:30
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

General info on TYLAN powder: 
http://www.ehow.com/facts_5585296_tylan-powder.html - available in large 
containers, more suitable for a vet.  My vet always gives me small amounts, 
because you don't need a lot of it. Meant originally for large farm animals, it 
has off-label uses.
Tylan is sometimes prescribed for off-label uses such as a treatment for 
gastrointestinal problems in small animals, such as cats and dogs, and as a 
growth-promoting food additive.

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Tried liquid Metronidazole - RX from vet--- didn't help. Were 4 days into .5 
packet of forti-flora and no difference. Maybe try the full packet? 
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From: Natalie 
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:54:02
To: 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Try some acidophilus in the food (probiotics), and it will help. If the cat 
likes dairy, try some plain yogurt (good brand that contains real acidophilus), 
or have your vet give you some Metronidazole - 1/4 pill 2x day.

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Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Thanks for the info. Now he is only on Clavamox (.3ml 2x a day) and sneezing is 
way better when he takes it. Nothing helping diarrhea tho. :( his disposition 
is great: eats a ton and is super playful. He's growing as well. I have him 
with a foster til his 13 week ELISA test again. I want IFA again too.. 
Considering all the false +s I hear of. Still very young to know for sure 
tho... Either way, he needs a new home come october. :( 

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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:09:45
To: 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts for 
2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying to give 
her a pill or liqud each day.

 Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
> 
> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
> though.
> 
> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  I've 
> had some people tell me that their cats went months before they actually had 
> a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon doesn't help 
> don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the food, other 
> parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about diarrhea because 
> it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's getting enough 
> water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're dehydrated by pulling 
> up the skin to test the elasticity.
> 
> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
> diarrhea.
> 
> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
> 
> So many kittens have live

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-12 Thread Natalie
I also sent you more info privately because this group has size limitations.

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Thank u soo much! I will ask the vet. :) Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Natalie 
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:09:30
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

General info on TYLAN powder: 
http://www.ehow.com/facts_5585296_tylan-powder.html - available in large 
containers, more suitable for a vet.  My vet always gives me small amounts, 
because you don't need a lot of it. Meant originally for large farm animals, it 
has off-label uses.
Tylan is sometimes prescribed for off-label uses such as a treatment for 
gastrointestinal problems in small animals, such as cats and dogs, and as a 
growth-promoting food additive.

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Tried liquid Metronidazole - RX from vet--- didn't help. Were 4 days into .5 
packet of forti-flora and no difference. Maybe try the full packet? 
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-Original Message-
From: Natalie 
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:54:02
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Try some acidophilus in the food (probiotics), and it will help. If the cat 
likes dairy, try some plain yogurt (good brand that contains real acidophilus), 
or have your vet give you some Metronidazole - 1/4 pill 2x day.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
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Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Thanks for the info. Now he is only on Clavamox (.3ml 2x a day) and sneezing is 
way better when he takes it. Nothing helping diarrhea tho. :( his disposition 
is great: eats a ton and is super playful. He's growing as well. I have him 
with a foster til his 13 week ELISA test again. I want IFA again too.. 
Considering all the false +s I hear of. Still very young to know for sure 
tho... Either way, he needs a new home come october. :( 

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-Original Message-
From: 
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:09:45
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts for 
2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying to give 
her a pill or liqud each day.

 Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
> 
> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
> though.
> 
> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  I've 
> had some people tell me that their cats went months before they actually had 
> a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon doesn't help 
> don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the food, other 
> parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about diarrhea because 
> it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's getting enough 
> water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're dehydrated by pulling 
> up the skin to test the elasticity.
> 
> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
> diarrhea.
> 
> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
> 
> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
> 
> Ma

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-12 Thread Marcia Baronda
You can order Benebac pet gel from the net. They have one for dogs and one for 
cats now. The cat one does not have lactobacillus in it. Also, New Chapter 
makes wonderful probiotics. Iherb carries them and a lot of other health food 
sites.

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Sep 12, 2011, at 12:34 AM, ccarlsb...@gmail.com wrote:

> How and where to get acidophilus for animals?!? I have milk for humans with 
> it...lol
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Natalie 
> Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:04:43 
> To: 
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
> I have never had good luck with FortiFlora; I think that it's just another 
> way of selling something for more instead of getting it cheaper.  With 
> acidophilus, you don't even have to measure out a dosage, whatever you give, 
> will be fine.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ccarlsb...@gmail.com
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:08 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
> I've tried "forti flora"... Give him half a packet a day, bc he's only 4lbs. 
> No difference. Just started that 4 days ago tho...
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Marcia Baronda 
> Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:55:03 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
> I think probiotics will also help. They will help diarrhea and also will 
> replenish good bacteria in the gut.
> 
> Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 
> 2010. 
> 
> On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 PM,  wrote:
> 
>> When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts 
>> for 2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying 
>> to give her a pill or liqud each day.
>> 
>>  Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
>>> 
>>> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
>>> though.
>>> 
>>> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  
>>> I've had some people tell me that their cats went months before they 
>>> actually had a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon 
>>> doesn't help don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be 
>>> the food, other parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about 
>>> diarrhea because it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure 
>>> it's getting enough water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're 
>>> dehydrated by pulling up the skin to test the elasticity.
>>> 
>>> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
>>> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
>>> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
>>> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
>>> diarrhea.
>>> 
>>> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they 
>>> battle so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things 
>>> would be too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but 
>>> I don't know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
>>> 
>>> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
>>> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, 
>>> there are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with 
>>> whatever FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
>>> 
>>> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
>>> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
>>> 
>>> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
>>> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
>>> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
>>> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark 
>>> Twain
>>> 
>>> Date: Sun, 28 

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-12 Thread ccarlsberg
Thank u soo much! I will ask the vet. :) 
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Natalie 
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 12:09:30 
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

General info on TYLAN powder: 
http://www.ehow.com/facts_5585296_tylan-powder.html - available in large 
containers, more suitable for a vet.  My vet always gives me small amounts, 
because you don't need a lot of it. Meant originally for large farm animals, it 
has off-label uses.
Tylan is sometimes prescribed for off-label uses such as a treatment for 
gastrointestinal problems in small animals, such as cats and dogs, and as a 
growth-promoting food additive.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ccarlsb...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Tried liquid Metronidazole - RX from vet--- didn't help. Were 4 days into .5 
packet of forti-flora and no difference. Maybe try the full packet? 
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Natalie 
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:54:02 
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Try some acidophilus in the food (probiotics), and it will help. If the cat 
likes dairy, try some plain yogurt (good brand that contains real acidophilus), 
or have your vet give you some Metronidazole - 1/4 pill 2x day.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ccarlsb...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Thanks for the info. Now he is only on Clavamox (.3ml 2x a day) and sneezing is 
way better when he takes it. Nothing helping diarrhea tho. :( his disposition 
is great: eats a ton and is super playful. He's growing as well. I have him 
with a foster til his 13 week ELISA test again. I want IFA again too.. 
Considering all the false +s I hear of. Still very young to know for sure 
tho... Either way, he needs a new home come october. :( 

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: 
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:09:45 
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts for 
2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying to give 
her a pill or liqud each day.

 Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
> 
> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
> though.
> 
> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  I've 
> had some people tell me that their cats went months before they actually had 
> a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon doesn't help 
> don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the food, other 
> parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about diarrhea because 
> it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's getting enough 
> water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're dehydrated by pulling 
> up the skin to test the elasticity.
> 
> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
> diarrhea.
> 
> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
> 
> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
> 
> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-12 Thread Natalie
General info on TYLAN powder: 
http://www.ehow.com/facts_5585296_tylan-powder.html - available in large 
containers, more suitable for a vet.  My vet always gives me small amounts, 
because you don't need a lot of it. Meant originally for large farm animals, it 
has off-label uses.
Tylan is sometimes prescribed for off-label uses such as a treatment for 
gastrointestinal problems in small animals, such as cats and dogs, and as a 
growth-promoting food additive.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ccarlsb...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Tried liquid Metronidazole - RX from vet--- didn't help. Were 4 days into .5 
packet of forti-flora and no difference. Maybe try the full packet? 
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Natalie 
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:54:02 
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Try some acidophilus in the food (probiotics), and it will help. If the cat 
likes dairy, try some plain yogurt (good brand that contains real acidophilus), 
or have your vet give you some Metronidazole - 1/4 pill 2x day.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ccarlsb...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Thanks for the info. Now he is only on Clavamox (.3ml 2x a day) and sneezing is 
way better when he takes it. Nothing helping diarrhea tho. :( his disposition 
is great: eats a ton and is super playful. He's growing as well. I have him 
with a foster til his 13 week ELISA test again. I want IFA again too.. 
Considering all the false +s I hear of. Still very young to know for sure 
tho... Either way, he needs a new home come october. :( 

Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: 
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:09:45 
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts for 
2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying to give 
her a pill or liqud each day.

 Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
> 
> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
> though.
> 
> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  I've 
> had some people tell me that their cats went months before they actually had 
> a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon doesn't help 
> don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the food, other 
> parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about diarrhea because 
> it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's getting enough 
> water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're dehydrated by pulling 
> up the skin to test the elasticity.
> 
> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
> diarrhea.
> 
> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
> 
> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
> 
> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
> 
> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
> From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia c

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-12 Thread Natalie
It's not specifically for animals, it's for all of us...anytimne you take 
antibiotics, you must restore the friendly flora in your digestive system.  You 
can buy it at supermarkets, CVS, pharmacies...they're either under acidophilus 
or with millions of bacteria, probiotics.  Now, they even market prebiotics.

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Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 1:35 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

How and where to get acidophilus for animals?!? I have milk for humans with 
it...lol Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Natalie 
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:04:43
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

I have never had good luck with FortiFlora; I think that it's just another way 
of selling something for more instead of getting it cheaper.  With acidophilus, 
you don't even have to measure out a dosage, whatever you give, will be fine.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ccarlsb...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

I've tried "forti flora"... Give him half a packet a day, bc he's only 4lbs. No 
difference. Just started that 4 days ago tho...
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

-Original Message-
From: Marcia Baronda 
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:55:03
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

I think probiotics will also help. They will help diarrhea and also will 
replenish good bacteria in the gut.

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On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 PM,  wrote:

> When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts 
> for 2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying 
> to give her a pill or liqud each day.
> 
>  Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
>> 
>> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
>> though.
>> 
>> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  
>> I've had some people tell me that their cats went months before they 
>> actually had a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon 
>> doesn't help don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the 
>> food, other parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about 
>> diarrhea because it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's 
>> getting enough water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're 
>> dehydrated by pulling up the skin to test the elasticity.
>> 
>> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
>> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
>> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
>> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
>> diarrhea.
>> 
>> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
>> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
>> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
>> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
>> 
>> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
>> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
>> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
>> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
>> 
>> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
>> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
>> 
>> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results 
>> that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it 
>> inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward 
>> it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without 
>> looking further.” – Mark Twain
>> 
>> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
>> From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-11 Thread ccarlsberg
Yes-- please ask what the curry stuff is-- little Anakin would really 
appreciate it! :) thank u sooo much!
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From: Natalie 
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:08:29 
To: 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

I've never used liquid Metronidazole, always pills, crushed into the food.  For 
a small kitten, a little crumb off the pill 2x day.  This morning, our baby 
Hamlet had diarrhea...immediately fixed it.  He's due for his second worming 
tomorrow.
There's something else my vet gave me, and I cannot remember the name.  It's a 
powder, the color of curry.  It's a mixture of anti-inflammatory and 
anti-diarrheaone uses a teeny pinch between the fingers and onto their 
gums. It works for diarrhea of unknown origin.  I'll ask what it is tomorrow, 
if you'd like.

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Tried liquid Metronidazole - RX from vet--- didn't help. Were 4 days into .5 
packet of forti-flora and no difference. Maybe try the full packet? 
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From: Natalie 
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:54:02 
To: 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Try some acidophilus in the food (probiotics), and it will help. If the cat 
likes dairy, try some plain yogurt (good brand that contains real acidophilus), 
or have your vet give you some Metronidazole - 1/4 pill 2x day.

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Thanks for the info. Now he is only on Clavamox (.3ml 2x a day) and sneezing is 
way better when he takes it. Nothing helping diarrhea tho. :( his disposition 
is great: eats a ton and is super playful. He's growing as well. I have him 
with a foster til his 13 week ELISA test again. I want IFA again too.. 
Considering all the false +s I hear of. Still very young to know for sure 
tho... Either way, he needs a new home come october. :( 

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From: 
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:09:45 
To: 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts for 
2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying to give 
her a pill or liqud each day.

 Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
> 
> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
> though.
> 
> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  I've 
> had some people tell me that their cats went months before they actually had 
> a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon doesn't help 
> don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the food, other 
> parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about diarrhea because 
> it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's getting enough 
> water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're dehydrated by pulling 
> up the skin to test the elasticity.
> 
> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
> diarrhea.
> 
> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
> 
> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
> 
> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
> 
> “

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-11 Thread ccarlsberg
How and where to get acidophilus for animals?!? I have milk for humans with 
it...lol
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Date: Mon, 12 Sep 2011 01:04:43 
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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

I have never had good luck with FortiFlora; I think that it's just another way 
of selling something for more instead of getting it cheaper.  With acidophilus, 
you don't even have to measure out a dosage, whatever you give, will be fine.

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

I've tried "forti flora"... Give him half a packet a day, bc he's only 4lbs. No 
difference. Just started that 4 days ago tho...
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From: Marcia Baronda 
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:55:03 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

I think probiotics will also help. They will help diarrhea and also will 
replenish good bacteria in the gut.

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 PM,  wrote:

> When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts 
> for 2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying 
> to give her a pill or liqud each day.
> 
>  Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
>> 
>> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
>> though.
>> 
>> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  
>> I've had some people tell me that their cats went months before they 
>> actually had a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon 
>> doesn't help don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the 
>> food, other parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about 
>> diarrhea because it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's 
>> getting enough water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're 
>> dehydrated by pulling up the skin to test the elasticity.
>> 
>> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
>> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
>> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
>> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
>> diarrhea.
>> 
>> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
>> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
>> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
>> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
>> 
>> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
>> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
>> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
>> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
>> 
>> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
>> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
>> 
>> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
>> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
>> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
>> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
>> 
>> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
>> From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>> 
>> Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued 
>> from the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that 
>> prognosis?? He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still 
>> very sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not 
>> improved, and also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
>> When should I re-test?
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,   wrote:
>> 
>> I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It 
>> has been 1 year for Nitnoy and 

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-11 Thread Natalie
I've never used liquid Metronidazole, always pills, crushed into the food.  For 
a small kitten, a little crumb off the pill 2x day.  This morning, our baby 
Hamlet had diarrhea...immediately fixed it.  He's due for his second worming 
tomorrow.
There's something else my vet gave me, and I cannot remember the name.  It's a 
powder, the color of curry.  It's a mixture of anti-inflammatory and 
anti-diarrheaone uses a teeny pinch between the fingers and onto their 
gums. It works for diarrhea of unknown origin.  I'll ask what it is tomorrow, 
if you'd like.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ccarlsb...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Tried liquid Metronidazole - RX from vet--- didn't help. Were 4 days into .5 
packet of forti-flora and no difference. Maybe try the full packet? 
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-Original Message-
From: Natalie 
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:54:02 
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Try some acidophilus in the food (probiotics), and it will help. If the cat 
likes dairy, try some plain yogurt (good brand that contains real acidophilus), 
or have your vet give you some Metronidazole - 1/4 pill 2x day.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ccarlsb...@gmail.com
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Thanks for the info. Now he is only on Clavamox (.3ml 2x a day) and sneezing is 
way better when he takes it. Nothing helping diarrhea tho. :( his disposition 
is great: eats a ton and is super playful. He's growing as well. I have him 
with a foster til his 13 week ELISA test again. I want IFA again too.. 
Considering all the false +s I hear of. Still very young to know for sure 
tho... Either way, he needs a new home come october. :( 

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From: 
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:09:45 
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts for 
2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying to give 
her a pill or liqud each day.

 Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
> 
> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
> though.
> 
> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  I've 
> had some people tell me that their cats went months before they actually had 
> a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon doesn't help 
> don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the food, other 
> parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about diarrhea because 
> it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's getting enough 
> water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're dehydrated by pulling 
> up the skin to test the elasticity.
> 
> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
> diarrhea.
> 
> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
> 
> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
> 
> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
> 
> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -070

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-11 Thread Natalie
I have never had good luck with FortiFlora; I think that it's just another way 
of selling something for more instead of getting it cheaper.  With acidophilus, 
you don't even have to measure out a dosage, whatever you give, will be fine.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ccarlsb...@gmail.com
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

I've tried "forti flora"... Give him half a packet a day, bc he's only 4lbs. No 
difference. Just started that 4 days ago tho...
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From: Marcia Baronda 
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:55:03 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

I think probiotics will also help. They will help diarrhea and also will 
replenish good bacteria in the gut.

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 PM,  wrote:

> When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts 
> for 2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying 
> to give her a pill or liqud each day.
> 
>  Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
>> 
>> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
>> though.
>> 
>> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  
>> I've had some people tell me that their cats went months before they 
>> actually had a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon 
>> doesn't help don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the 
>> food, other parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about 
>> diarrhea because it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's 
>> getting enough water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're 
>> dehydrated by pulling up the skin to test the elasticity.
>> 
>> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
>> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
>> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
>> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
>> diarrhea.
>> 
>> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
>> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
>> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
>> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
>> 
>> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
>> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
>> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
>> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
>> 
>> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
>> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
>> 
>> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
>> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
>> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
>> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
>> 
>> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
>> From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>> 
>> Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued 
>> from the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that 
>> prognosis?? He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still 
>> very sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not 
>> improved, and also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
>> When should I re-test?
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,   wrote:
>> 
>> I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It 
>> has been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Marcia Baronda  wrote:
>> 
>>> No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
>> 
>>> can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
>> 
>>> All of you have a wealth of info

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-11 Thread ccarlsberg
Tried liquid Metronidazole - RX from vet--- didn't help. Were 4 days into .5 
packet of forti-flora and no difference. Maybe try the full packet? 
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From: Natalie 
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 23:54:02 
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Try some acidophilus in the food (probiotics), and it will help. If the cat 
likes dairy, try some plain yogurt (good brand that contains real acidophilus), 
or have your vet give you some Metronidazole - 1/4 pill 2x day.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
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Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Thanks for the info. Now he is only on Clavamox (.3ml 2x a day) and sneezing is 
way better when he takes it. Nothing helping diarrhea tho. :( his disposition 
is great: eats a ton and is super playful. He's growing as well. I have him 
with a foster til his 13 week ELISA test again. I want IFA again too.. 
Considering all the false +s I hear of. Still very young to know for sure 
tho... Either way, he needs a new home come october. :( 

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From: 
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:09:45 
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts for 
2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying to give 
her a pill or liqud each day.

 Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
> 
> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
> though.
> 
> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  I've 
> had some people tell me that their cats went months before they actually had 
> a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon doesn't help 
> don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the food, other 
> parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about diarrhea because 
> it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's getting enough 
> water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're dehydrated by pulling 
> up the skin to test the elasticity.
> 
> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
> diarrhea.
> 
> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
> 
> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
> 
> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
> 
> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
> From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
> Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued from 
> the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that 
> prognosis?? He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still 
> very sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not 
> improved, and also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
> When should I re-test?
> 
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,   wrote:
> 
> I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It has 
> been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.
> 
> 
> 
>  Marcia Baronda  wrote:
> 
> > No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
> 
> > 

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-11 Thread ccarlsberg
I've tried "forti flora"... Give him half a packet a day, bc he's only 4lbs. No 
difference. Just started that 4 days ago tho...
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From: Marcia Baronda 
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Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 21:55:03 
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I think probiotics will also help. They will help diarrhea and also will 
replenish good bacteria in the gut.

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On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 PM,  wrote:

> When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts 
> for 2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying 
> to give her a pill or liqud each day.
> 
>  Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
>> 
>> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
>> though.
>> 
>> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  
>> I've had some people tell me that their cats went months before they 
>> actually had a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon 
>> doesn't help don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the 
>> food, other parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about 
>> diarrhea because it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's 
>> getting enough water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're 
>> dehydrated by pulling up the skin to test the elasticity.
>> 
>> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
>> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
>> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
>> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
>> diarrhea.
>> 
>> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
>> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
>> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
>> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
>> 
>> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
>> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
>> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
>> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
>> 
>> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
>> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
>> 
>> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
>> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
>> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
>> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
>> 
>> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
>> From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>> 
>> Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued 
>> from the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that 
>> prognosis?? He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still 
>> very sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not 
>> improved, and also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
>> When should I re-test?
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,   wrote:
>> 
>> I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It 
>> has been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Marcia Baronda  wrote:
>> 
>>> No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
>> 
>>> can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
>> 
>>> All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!
>> 
>>> Just think what that would look like all compiled together.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christiane Biagi 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>>> You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!
>> 
>>>> There are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life
>> 
>>>> and death decisio

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-11 Thread Natalie
Try some acidophilus in the food (probiotics), and it will help. If the cat 
likes dairy, try some plain yogurt (good brand that contains real acidophilus), 
or have your vet give you some Metronidazole - 1/4 pill 2x day.

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Thanks for the info. Now he is only on Clavamox (.3ml 2x a day) and sneezing is 
way better when he takes it. Nothing helping diarrhea tho. :( his disposition 
is great: eats a ton and is super playful. He's growing as well. I have him 
with a foster til his 13 week ELISA test again. I want IFA again too.. 
Considering all the false +s I hear of. Still very young to know for sure 
tho... Either way, he needs a new home come october. :( 

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts for 
2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying to give 
her a pill or liqud each day.

 Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
> 
> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
> though.
> 
> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  I've 
> had some people tell me that their cats went months before they actually had 
> a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon doesn't help 
> don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the food, other 
> parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about diarrhea because 
> it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's getting enough 
> water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're dehydrated by pulling 
> up the skin to test the elasticity.
> 
> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
> diarrhea.
> 
> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
> 
> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
> 
> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
> 
> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
> From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
> Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued from 
> the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that 
> prognosis?? He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still 
> very sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not 
> improved, and also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
> When should I re-test?
> 
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,   wrote:
> 
> I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It has 
> been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.
> 
> 
> 
>  Marcia Baronda  wrote:
> 
> > No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
> 
> > can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
> 
> > All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!
> 
> > Just think what that would look like all compiled together.
> 
> >
> 
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christiane Biagi 
> > wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > >  You know, not for nothing, but 

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-11 Thread Marcia Baronda
Hi there
Van Beek makes a product called, appropriately, Diarrhea Control Gel. Worked 
overtime I used it. Within 24 hours.

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On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:16 PM, ccarlsb...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks for the info. Now he is only on Clavamox (.3ml 2x a day) and sneezing 
> is way better when he takes it. Nothing helping diarrhea tho. :( his 
> disposition is great: eats a ton and is super playful. He's growing as well. 
> I have him with a foster til his 13 week ELISA test again. I want IFA again 
> too.. Considering all the false +s I hear of. Still very young to know for 
> sure tho... Either way, he needs a new home come october. :( 
> 
> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 
> Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:09:45 
> To: 
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
> When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts 
> for 2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying 
> to give her a pill or liqud each day.
> 
>  Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
>> 
>> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
>> though.
>> 
>> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  
>> I've had some people tell me that their cats went months before they 
>> actually had a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon 
>> doesn't help don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the 
>> food, other parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about 
>> diarrhea because it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's 
>> getting enough water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're 
>> dehydrated by pulling up the skin to test the elasticity.
>> 
>> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
>> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
>> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
>> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
>> diarrhea.
>> 
>> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
>> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
>> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
>> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
>> 
>> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
>> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
>> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
>> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
>> 
>> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
>> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
>> 
>> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
>> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
>> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
>> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
>> 
>> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
>> From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>> 
>> Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued 
>> from the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that 
>> prognosis?? He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still 
>> very sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not 
>> improved, and also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
>> When should I re-test?
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,   wrote:
>> 
>> I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It 
>> has been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Marcia Baronda  wrote:
>> 
>>> No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
>> 
>>> can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
>> 
>>> All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!
>> 
>>> Just think what that would look like all compiled together.
>&g

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-11 Thread Marcia Baronda
I think probiotics will also help. They will help diarrhea and also will 
replenish good bacteria in the gut.

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 PM,  wrote:

> When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts 
> for 2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying 
> to give her a pill or liqud each day.
> 
>  Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
>> 
>> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
>> though.
>> 
>> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  
>> I've had some people tell me that their cats went months before they 
>> actually had a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon 
>> doesn't help don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the 
>> food, other parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about 
>> diarrhea because it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's 
>> getting enough water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're 
>> dehydrated by pulling up the skin to test the elasticity.
>> 
>> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
>> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
>> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
>> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
>> diarrhea.
>> 
>> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
>> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
>> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
>> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
>> 
>> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
>> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
>> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
>> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
>> 
>> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
>> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
>> 
>> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
>> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
>> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
>> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
>> 
>> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
>> From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>> 
>> Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued 
>> from the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that 
>> prognosis?? He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still 
>> very sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not 
>> improved, and also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
>> When should I re-test?
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,   wrote:
>> 
>> I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It 
>> has been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Marcia Baronda  wrote:
>> 
>>> No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
>> 
>>> can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
>> 
>>> All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!
>> 
>>> Just think what that would look like all compiled together.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christiane Biagi 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>>> You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!
>> 
>>>> There are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life
>> 
>>>> and death decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us 
>>>> who
>> 
>>>> have felv+ cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested neg
>> 
>>>> at about 3 months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed 
>>>> to
>> 
>>>> the outside or any pos cats…..
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> ** **
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>&

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-11 Thread Gloria Lane
Convenia shot perhaps...

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On Sep 11, 2011, at 8:09 PM,  wrote:

> When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts 
> for 2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying 
> to give her a pill or liqud each day.
> 
>  Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
>> 
>> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
>> though.
>> 
>> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  
>> I've had some people tell me that their cats went months before they 
>> actually had a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon 
>> doesn't help don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the 
>> food, other parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about 
>> diarrhea because it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's 
>> getting enough water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're 
>> dehydrated by pulling up the skin to test the elasticity.
>> 
>> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
>> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
>> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
>> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
>> diarrhea.
>> 
>> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
>> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
>> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
>> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
>> 
>> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
>> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
>> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
>> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
>> 
>> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
>> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
>> 
>> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
>> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
>> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
>> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
>> 
>> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
>> From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>> 
>> Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued 
>> from the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that 
>> prognosis?? He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still 
>> very sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not 
>> improved, and also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
>> When should I re-test?
>> 
>> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,   wrote:
>> 
>> I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It 
>> has been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>  Marcia Baronda  wrote:
>> 
>>> No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
>> 
>>> can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
>> 
>>> All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!
>> 
>>> Just think what that would look like all compiled together.
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christiane Biagi 
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>>> You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!
>> 
>>>> There are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life
>> 
>>>> and death decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us 
>>>> who
>> 
>>>> have felv+ cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested neg
>> 
>>>> at about 3 months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed 
>>>> to
>> 
>>>> the outside or any pos cats…..
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> ** **
>> 
>>>> 
>> 
>>>> *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
>> 
>>>> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf O

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-11 Thread ccarlsberg
Thanks for the info. Now he is only on Clavamox (.3ml 2x a day) and sneezing is 
way better when he takes it. Nothing helping diarrhea tho. :( his disposition 
is great: eats a ton and is super playful. He's growing as well. I have him 
with a foster til his 13 week ELISA test again. I want IFA again too.. 
Considering all the false +s I hear of. Still very young to know for sure 
tho... Either way, he needs a new home come october. :( 

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From: 
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sun, 11 Sep 2011 20:09:45 
To: 
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts for 
2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying to give 
her a pill or liqud each day.

 Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
> 
> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
> though.
> 
> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  I've 
> had some people tell me that their cats went months before they actually had 
> a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon doesn't help 
> don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the food, other 
> parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about diarrhea because 
> it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's getting enough 
> water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're dehydrated by pulling 
> up the skin to test the elasticity.
> 
> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
> diarrhea.
> 
> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
> 
> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
> 
> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
> 
> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
> From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
> Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued from 
> the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that 
> prognosis?? He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still 
> very sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not 
> improved, and also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
> When should I re-test?
> 
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,   wrote:
> 
> I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It has 
> been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.
> 
> 
> 
>  Marcia Baronda  wrote:
> 
> > No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
> 
> > can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
> 
> > All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!
> 
> > Just think what that would look like all compiled together.
> 
> >
> 
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christiane Biagi 
> > wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > >  You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!
> 
> > > There are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life
> 
> > > and death decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us 
> > > who
> 
> > > have felv+ cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested 
> > > neg
> 
> > > at about 3 months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed 
> > > to
> 
> > > the o

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-09-11 Thread dlgegg
When Homey (6 years) had a URL, Dr. R gave hr an antibiotic sot that lasts for 
2 weeks.  She has had 2 bouts and each tmeit works.  Better than trying to give 
her a pill or liqud each day.

 Maureen Olvey  wrote: 
> 
> Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
> though.
> 
> Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  I've 
> had some people tell me that their cats went months before they actually had 
> a solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon doesn't help 
> don't be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the food, other 
> parasites just so many things.  Have to be careful about diarrhea because 
> it's easy for kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's getting enough 
> water and let the vet show you how to tell if they're dehydrated by pulling 
> up the skin to test the elasticity.
> 
> If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
> stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an 
> antibiotic to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes 
> there's nothing else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats 
> diarrhea.
> 
> With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle 
> so I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be 
> too much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't 
> know for sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.
> 
> So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never 
> know how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there 
> are so many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever 
> FeLV throws their way so keep that in mind and be positive.
> 
> Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else 
> to help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
> 
> Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
> From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
> Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued from 
> the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that 
> prognosis?? He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still 
> very sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not 
> improved, and also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
> When should I re-test?
> 
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,   wrote:
> 
> I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It has 
> been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.
> 
> 
> 
>  Marcia Baronda  wrote:
> 
> > No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
> 
> > can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
> 
> > All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!
> 
> > Just think what that would look like all compiled together.
> 
> >
> 
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christiane Biagi 
> > wrote:
> 
> >
> 
> > >  You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!
> 
> > > There are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life
> 
> > > and death decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us 
> > > who
> 
> > > have felv+ cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested 
> > > neg
> 
> > > at about 3 months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed 
> > > to
> 
> > > the outside or any pos cats…..
> 
> > >
> 
> > > ** **
> 
> > >
> 
> > > *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> 
> > > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
> 
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
> 
> > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> 
> > >
> 
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
> > >
> 
> > >   ** **
> 
> > >
> 
> > > I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.
> 
> > >
> 
> > >  
> 
> > &g

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-29 Thread Beth
A posiitve IFA means it's replicating in the bone marrow, so no further testing 
is usually required, but I don't hink I would trust an IFA on an 8-week old 
kitten.

Beth

 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



From: Maureen Olvey 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 29, 2011 2:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats


 
Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
though.

Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  I've 
had some people tell me that their cats went months before they actually had a 
solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon doesn't help don't 
be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the food, other parasites 
just so many things.  Have to be careful about diarrhea because it's easy for 
kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's getting enough water and let the 
vet show you how to tell if they're dehydrated by pulling up the skin to test 
the elasticity.

If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an antibiotic 
to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes there's nothing 
else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats diarrhea.

With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle so 
I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be too 
much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't know for 
sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.

So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never know 
how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there are so 
many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever FeLV throws 
their way so keep that in mind and be positive.

Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else to 
help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain




Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued from 
the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that prognosis?? 
He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still very 
sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not improved, and 
also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
When should I re-test?


On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,  wrote:

I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It has 
been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.
>
> Marcia Baronda  wrote:
>> No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
>> can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
>> All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!
>> Just think what that would look like all compiled together.
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christiane Biagi 
>> wrote:
>>
>> >  You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!
>> > There are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life
>> > and death decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us 
>> > who
>> > have felv+ cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested neg
>> > at about 3 months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed 
>> > to
>> > the outside or any pos cats…..
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >
>> > *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
>> > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
>> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
>> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> >
>> > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>> >
>> >   ** **
>> >
>> > I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.****
>> >
>> >  
>> >
>> > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>*
>> > ***
>> >
>> >  
>> >
>> > ** **
>> >   --
>> >
>> > 

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-29 Thread Marcia Baronda
Crystal
It sounds like the kitten is on metronidazole for the diarrhea. That usually 
eliminates it. Since Im new here I can't address the felv. I'm just 
learning.(-:  I can tell you that some probiotics would definitely help. There 
is also a product called diarrhea control gel by Van Beek. It DOES work. It is 
a mixture of herbs so you may want to discuss it with your vet, or call Van 
Beek and talk with them also. The antibiotics that your kitten are taking will 
destroy the good bacteria in his digestive tract. They are the first defense 
agains disease. There is Benebac pet gel for starters. I think there is one 
specifically for cats. Poor little baby. He's very lucky to have you!
Oh, I forgot to mention, should you decide to get the control gel, get the one 
for cats and give half the dose. It,s cheaper than buying the one for kittens(-:

Take care
Marcia
Sent from my iPad

On Aug 28, 2011, at 11:28 PM, "Crystal C. Beecher"  wrote:

> Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued from 
> the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that 
> prognosis?? He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still 
> very sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not 
> improved, and also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
> When should I re-test?
> 
> On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,  wrote:
> I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It has 
> been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.
> 
>  Marcia Baronda  wrote:
> > No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
> > can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
> > All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!
> > Just think what that would look like all compiled together.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christiane Biagi 
> > wrote:
> >
> > >  You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!
> > > There are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life
> > > and death decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us 
> > > who
> > > have felv+ cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested 
> > > neg
> > > at about 3 months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed 
> > > to
> > > the outside or any pos cats…..
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> > > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
> > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> > >
> > >   ** **
> > >
> > > I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.
> > >
> > >  ****
> > >
> > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>*
> > > ***
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >   --
> > >
> > > *From:* Natalie 
> > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> > >
> > > Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.
> > >
> > > New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had
> > > the IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> > > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
> > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats****
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT
> > > mean they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in 
> > > their
> > > bone marrow.
> > >
> > >  Beth
> > >
> > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>*
> > > ***
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >   --
> > >
> > > *From:* Natalie 
> > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
> > > *

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-28 Thread Maureen Olvey

Seems like I heard that kittens should be retested at 6 months.  Not sure 
though.

Many kittens have URI and coccidia, which is usually what Albon is for.  I've 
had some people tell me that their cats went months before they actually had a 
solid poop.  That could be from anything.  So if the Albon doesn't help don't 
be too worried, just keep trying things.  It could be the food, other parasites 
just so many things.  Have to be careful about diarrhea because it's easy for 
kittens to get dehydrated.  So make sure it's getting enough water and let the 
vet show you how to tell if they're dehydrated by pulling up the skin to test 
the elasticity.

If the URI doesn't get  better after a couple rounds of Clavamox ask for a 
stronger antibiotic.  I don't think vets like to give too strong an antibiotic 
to a kitten but you do have to get rid of the URI so sometimes there's nothing 
else to do.  Also antibiotics are notorious for giving cats diarrhea.

With any FeLV kitty you have to be worried about each thing that they battle so 
I don't know about the prognosis.  I wouldn't think those things would be too 
much more serious for a FeLV kitten than any other kitten but I don't know for 
sure.  If the clavamox is helping then that's a good sign.

So many kittens have lived longer than the expected 3.5 years so you never know 
how long the kitten will live.  It seems to be a coin toss.  But, there are so 
many things out there to help the immune system deal with whatever FeLV throws 
their way so keep that in mind and be positive.

Maybe someone else has more specific advise on supplements or anything else to 
help the kitten get over it's health problems right now.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

Date: Sun, 28 Aug 2011 21:28:46 -0700
From: ccarlsb...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued from 
the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that prognosis?? 
He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still very 
sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not improved, and 
also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
When should I re-test?

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,   wrote:

I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It has 
been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.



 Marcia Baronda  wrote:

> No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you

> can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.

> All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!

> Just think what that would look like all compiled together.

>

> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:

>

> >  You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!

> > There are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life

> > and death decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us who

> > have felv+ cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested neg

> > at about 3 months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed to

> > the outside or any pos cats…..

> >

> > ** **

> >

> > *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:

> > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth

> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM

> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

> >

> > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

> >

> >   ** **

> >

> > I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.

> >

> >  

> >

> > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>*

> > ***

> >

> >  

> >

> > ** **

> >   --

> >

> > *From:* Natalie 

> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM

> > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

> >

> > Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.

> >

> > New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had

> > the IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!

> >

> >  

> >

> > *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:

> > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *B

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-28 Thread Crystal C. Beecher
Can someone please give me some advice on the 8 week old kitty I rescued
from the shelter? IFA and ELISA + FELV. What do you all think about that
prognosis?? He is on Clavamax for URI, which is slightly improving, still
very sneezy-snotty, Albon, Metrodione (?) for diarrhea, which has not
improved, and also L-Lysine/Duralactin gel.
When should I re-test?

On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 8:59 PM,  wrote:

> I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It
> has been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.
>
>  Marcia Baronda  wrote:
> > No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because
> you
> > can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
> > All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!
> > Just think what that would look like all compiled together.
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christiane Biagi  >wrote:
> >
> > >  You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!
> > > There are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.
>  Life
> > > and death decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of
> us who
> > > have felv+ cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested
> neg
> > > at about 3 months & post years later even though she’d never been
> exposed to
> > > the outside or any pos cats…..
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >
> > > *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> > > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
> > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > >
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> > >
> > >   ** **
> > >
> > > I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <
> http://www.furkids.org/>*
> > > ***
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > ** **
> > >   --
> > >
> > > *From:* Natalie 
> > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> > >
> > > Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA –
> negative.
> > >
> > > New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He
> had
> > > the IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > > *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> > > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
> > > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
> > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> > >
> > >  ****
> > >
> > > Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does
> NOT
> > > mean they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in
> their
> > > bone marrow.
> > >
> > >  Beth
> > >
> > > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <
> http://www.furkids.org/>*
> > > ***
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >  
> > >   --
> > >
> > > *From:* Natalie 
> > > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
> > > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> > >
> > > I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was
> very
> > > lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became
> > > friends overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using
> the
> > > IFA – they were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of
> them
> > > could have been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to
> FeLV!
> > > The strange thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was
> done
> > > to soon after the positive ELISA.
> > >
> > > Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another
> definitely
> > > positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+
> mother
> > > will be positive more likely than not.
> > >
> > > *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [m

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-28 Thread dlgegg
We need to get the word out to everyone includig resuce/sheter people not to go 
with a vet who says kill them.  My vet gave m an option of put them to sleep or 
wait and see.  I am so glad he did.  If I ever move or he retires and I have to 
get a new one, the first thing I will ask is what do you think about positive 
felv?  Sort of on the subject, Missouri University has opened a cancer 
treatment center for animals in Wentzville which is only 15 mles away.  Lots 
better than 300 miles.  If I have to go for chemo for my babies, now I have a 
closer option.  I know they do not say put them down.


 Christiane Biagi  wrote: 
> You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!  There 
> are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life and death 
> decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us who have felv+ 
> cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested neg at about 3 
> months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed to the outside 
> or any pos cats…..
> 
>  
> 
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
>  
> 
> I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.
> 
>  
> 
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!  
> <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif>  www.Furkids.org 
> <http://www.furkids.org/> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: Natalie 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
> Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.
> 
> New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had the 
> IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!
> 
>  
> 
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
> Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
>  
> 
> Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT mean 
> they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their bone 
> marrow.
> 
>  Beth
> 
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!  
> <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif>  www.Furkids.org 
> <http://www.furkids.org/> 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>   _  
> 
> From: Natalie 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
> I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was very 
> lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became friends 
> overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the IFA – they 
> were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them could have 
> been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!  The strange 
> thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done to soon after 
> the positive ELISA.
> 
> Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely 
> positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother 
> will be positive more likely than not.
> 
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of April Johnson
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
>  
> 
> In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
> (Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
> begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after 
> being adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not 
> know when I adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless 
> you request it.  Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet 
> wanted me to put her to sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  
> I couldn't do it she was only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare 
> bedroom into her home.  She has a cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I 
> think she is lonely being by herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about 
> a mother cat and her juvenile litter of kittens having all just tested 
> positive for feline leukemia.  I was thinking of looking for a friend for 
> Spicy.  I had talked

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-28 Thread dlgegg
I think itis time to retest Annie and Nitnoy with the  IFA and Elisa.  It has 
been 1 year for Nitnoy and over 3 for Annie.

 Marcia Baronda  wrote: 
> No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
> can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
> All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!
> Just think what that would look like all compiled together.
> 
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:
> 
> >  You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!
> > There are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life
> > and death decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us who
> > have felv+ cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested neg
> > at about 3 months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed to
> > the outside or any pos cats…..
> >
> > ** **
> >
> > *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >
> > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> >
> >   ** **
> >
> > I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.
> >
> >  
> >
> > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>*
> > ***
> >
> >  
> >
> > ** **
> >   --
> >
> > *From:* Natalie 
> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> >
> > Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.
> >
> > New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had
> > the IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!
> >
> >  
> >
> > *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
> > *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> >
> >  
> >
> > Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT
> > mean they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their
> > bone marrow.
> >
> >  Beth
> >
> > Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>*
> > ***
> >
> >  
> >
> >  
> >   --
> >
> > *From:* Natalie 
> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
> > *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> >
> > I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was very
> > lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became
> > friends overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the
> > IFA – they were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them
> > could have been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!
> > The strange thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done
> > to soon after the positive ELISA.
> >
> > Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely
> > positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother
> > will be positive more likely than not.
> >
> > *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> > felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *April Johnson
> > *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
> > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> >
> >  
> >
> > In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female
> > (Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and
> > begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after
> > being adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not
> > know when I adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless
> > you request it.  Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet
> > wanted me to put her to sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.
> > I couldn't do it she was only 10 months old.  So I transformed a

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-26 Thread Beth
Yeah! One more convert to help spread the word about these babies!

Beth

 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



From: Marcia Baronda 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2011 10:38 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats


yes, that's true. we just have to manage. well i'm finding out from all of you 
that they can live a normal life...thank god!


On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Beth  wrote:

You can never rely on a single ELISA, that's for sure. Plus we know labs mess 
up human tests, so we have to know that IFAs sent out can get messed up, too. & 
even if they are truly positive they can live whatever life they have just as 
happily as any other cat!
>
>
>Beth
>
>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
> 
>
>
>
>
> From: Christiane Biagi 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:23 PM 
>
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
>
>
>You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!  There 
>are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life and death 
>decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us who have felv+ 
>cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested neg at about 3 
>months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed to the outside 
>or any pos cats…..
> 
>From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
>[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
>Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
>I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.
> 
>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
> 
> 
>
>____________
> 
>From:Natalie 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.
>New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had the 
>IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!
> 
>From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
>[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
>Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
>Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT mean 
>they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their bone 
>marrow.
> Beth
>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
> 
> 
>
>
> 
>From:Natalie 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was very 
>lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became friends 
>overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the IFA – they 
>were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them could have 
>been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!  The strange 
>thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done to soon after 
>the positive ELISA.
>Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely 
>positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother 
>will be positive more likely than not.
>From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
>[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of April Johnson
>Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
> 
>In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
>(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
>begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after 
>being adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know 
>when I adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you 
>request it.  Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me 
>to put her to sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't 
>do it she was only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her 
>home.  She has a cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is 
>lonely being by herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat 
>and her juvenile litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline 
>leukemia.  

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-26 Thread Marcia Baronda
yes, that's true. we just have to manage. well i'm finding out from all of
you that they can live a normal life...thank god!

On Fri, Aug 26, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Beth  wrote:

>  You can never rely on a single ELISA, that's for sure. Plus we know labs
> mess up human tests, so we have to know that IFAs sent out can get messed
> up, too. & even if they are truly positive they can live whatever life they
> have just as happily as any other cat!
>
> Beth
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>
>
>
>  --
> *From:* Christiane Biagi 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:23 PM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
>  You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!
> There are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life
> and death decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us who
> have felv+ cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested neg
> at about 3 months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed to
> the outside or any pos cats…..
>
>  *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
>  I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.
>
>  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>
>
>
>   ------------------
>  *From:* Natalie 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>   Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.
>  New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had
> the IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!
>
>   *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
>   Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT
> mean they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their
> bone marrow.
>   Beth
>  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Natalie 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>   I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was
> very lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became
> friends overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the
> IFA – they were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them
> could have been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!
> The strange thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done
> to soon after the positive ELISA.
>  Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another
> definitely positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a
> FeLV+ mother will be positive more likely than not.
>   *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *April Johnson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
>   In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange
> female (Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats
> and begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week
> after being adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did
> not know when I adopted them that animal control does not test the cats
> unless you request it.  Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My
> vet wanted me to put her to sleep because she couldn't live with my other
> cats.  I couldn't do it she was only 10 months old.  So I transformed a
> spare bedroom into her home.  She has a cat tree, sofa, windows and toys
> galore.  I think she is lonely being by herself.  A rescue in my area just
> posted about a mother cat and her juvenile litter of kittens having all just
> tested positive for feline leukemia.  I was thinking of looking for a friend
> for Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our area that takes in FELV and FIV
> positive cats.  They recommen

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-26 Thread Beth
You can never rely on a single ELISA, that's for sure. Plus we know labs mess 
up human tests, so we have to know that IFAs sent out can get messed up, too. & 
even if they are truly positive they can live whatever life they have just as 
happily as any other cat!

Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



From: Christiane Biagi 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats


You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!  There are 
just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life and death 
decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us who have felv+ 
cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested neg at about 3 
months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed to the outside 
or any pos cats…..
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
 
I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.
 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 
 



From:Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.
New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had the 
IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
 
Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT mean 
they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their bone 
marrow.
 Beth
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 
 



From:Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was very 
lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became friends 
overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the IFA – they 
were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them could have 
been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!  The strange 
thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done to soon after 
the positive ELISA.
Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely 
positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother 
will be positive more likely than not.
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of April Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
 
In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after being 
adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know when I 
adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you request it.  
Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me to put her to 
sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't do it she was 
only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her home.  She has a 
cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is lonely being by 
herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat and her juvenile 
litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline leukemia.  I was 
thinking of looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our 
area that takes in
 FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not adding because it could make 
Spicy sick or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week to get retested for 
FELV, the vet said there is remote chance she could turn negative.  If she is 
still positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her a friend?? 
 
April 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-25 Thread Marcia Baronda
No Kiddingmy thoughts exactly. And I am just learning this, because you
can't find any info like this in any books or on any websites about felv.
All of you have a wealth of info here and a LOT of statistics!!
Just think what that would look like all compiled together.

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:

>  You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!
> There are just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life
> and death decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us who
> have felv+ cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested neg
> at about 3 months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed to
> the outside or any pos cats…..
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
>   ** **
>
> I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.
>
>  
>
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>*
> ***
>
>  
>
> ** **
>   --
>
> *From:* Natalie 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
> Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.
>
> New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had
> the IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!
>
>  
>
> *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
>  
>
> Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT
> mean they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their
> bone marrow.
>
>  Beth
>
> Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org <http://www.furkids.org/>*
> ***
>
>  
>
>  
>   --
>
> *From:* Natalie 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
> I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was very
> lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became
> friends overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the
> IFA – they were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them
> could have been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!
> The strange thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done
> to soon after the positive ELISA.
>
> Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely
> positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother
> will be positive more likely than not.
>
> *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *April Johnson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
>  
>
> In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female
> (Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and
> begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after
> being adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not
> know when I adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless
> you request it.  Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet
> wanted me to put her to sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.
> I couldn't do it she was only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare
> bedroom into her home.  She has a cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.
> I think she is lonely being by herself.  A rescue in my area just posted
> about a mother cat and her juvenile litter of kittens having all just tested
> positive for feline leukemia.  I was thinking of looking for a friend for
> Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our area that takes in FELV and FIV
> positive cats.  They recommended not adding because it could make Spicy sick
> or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week to get retested for FELV, the
> vet said there is remote chance she could turn negative.  If she is still
> positive  do you think 

Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-25 Thread Marcia Baronda
wow...the more I read here the more this disease can be very unpredictable!
But that's great he was negative!

On Thu, Aug 25, 2011 at 2:00 PM, Natalie  wrote:

>  Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.
>
> New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had
> the IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth
> *Sent:* Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
>  ** **
>
> Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT
> mean they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their
> bone marrow.
>
>  Beth
>
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>
>  
>
> ** **
>   --
>
> *From:* Natalie 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
> I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was very
> lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became
> friends overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the
> IFA – they were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them
> could have been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!
> The strange thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done
> to soon after the positive ELISA.
>
> Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely
> positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother
> will be positive more likely than not.
>
> *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *April Johnson
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
>  
>
> In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female
> (Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and
> begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after
> being adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not
> know when I adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless
> you request it.  Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet
> wanted me to put her to sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.
> I couldn't do it she was only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare
> bedroom into her home.  She has a cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.
> I think she is lonely being by herself.  A rescue in my area just posted
> about a mother cat and her juvenile litter of kittens having all just tested
> positive for feline leukemia.  I was thinking of looking for a friend for
> Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our area that takes in FELV and FIV
> positive cats.  They recommended not adding because it could make Spicy sick
> or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week to get retested for FELV, the
> vet said there is remote chance she could turn negative.  If she is still
> positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her a friend?? 
>
>  
>
> April 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-25 Thread Natalie
Both had ELISA AND IFA!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

 

I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.

 

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From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.

New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had the 
IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

 

Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT mean 
they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their bone 
marrow.

 Beth

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From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was very 
lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became friends 
overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the IFA – they 
were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them could have 
been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!  The strange 
thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done to soon after 
the positive ELISA.

Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely 
positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother 
will be positive more likely than not.

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of April Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

 

In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after being 
adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know when I 
adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you request it.  
Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me to put her to 
sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't do it she was 
only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her home.  She has a 
cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is lonely being by 
herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat and her juvenile 
litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline leukemia.  I was 
thinking of looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our 
area that takes in FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not adding 
because it could make Spicy sick or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week 
to get retested for FELV, the vet said there is remote chance she could turn 
negative.  If she is still positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her 
a friend?? 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-25 Thread Christiane Biagi
You know, not for nothing, but this testing is really really flawed!  There are 
just too many stories of folks with inconsistent results.  Life and death 
decisions are made everyday based on these tests and all of us who have felv+ 
cats know the tests to be a bit shaky.  My own Tucson tested neg at about 3 
months & post years later even though she’d never been exposed to the outside 
or any pos cats…..

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:15 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

 

I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.

 

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From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.

New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had the 
IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

 

Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT mean 
they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their bone 
marrow.

 Beth

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<http://www.furkids.org/> 

 

 

  _  

From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was very 
lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became friends 
overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the IFA – they 
were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them could have 
been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!  The strange 
thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done to soon after 
the positive ELISA.

Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely 
positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother 
will be positive more likely than not.

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of April Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

 

In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after being 
adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know when I 
adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you request it.  
Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me to put her to 
sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't do it she was 
only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her home.  She has a 
cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is lonely being by 
herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat and her juvenile 
litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline leukemia.  I was 
thinking of looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our 
area that takes in FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not adding 
because it could make Spicy sick or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week 
to get retested for FELV, the vet said there is remote chance she could turn 
negative.  If she is still positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her 
a friend?? 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-25 Thread Beth
I would retest the 1st one on the Elisa just to be sure.

 
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From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats


Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.
New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had the 
IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
 
Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT mean 
they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their bone 
marrow.
 Beth
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From:Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was very 
lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became friends 
overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the IFA – they 
were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them could have 
been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!  The strange 
thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done to soon after 
the positive ELISA.
Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely 
positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother 
will be positive more likely than not.
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of April Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
 
In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after being 
adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know when I 
adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you request it.  
Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me to put her to 
sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't do it she was 
only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her home.  She has a 
cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is lonely being by 
herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat and her juvenile 
litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline leukemia.  I was 
thinking of looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our 
area that takes in
 FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not adding because it could make 
Spicy sick or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week to get retested for 
FELV, the vet said there is remote chance she could turn negative.  If she is 
still positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her a friend?? 
 
April 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-25 Thread Natalie
Ours had only the ELISA, positive….2 ½ yrs later, the IFA – negative.

New cat had ELISA, then IFA three wks later – both were positive.  He had the 
IFA again 1 ½ yrs later – negative!

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 11:25 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

 

Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT mean 
they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their bone 
marrow.

 Beth

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From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was very 
lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became friends 
overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the IFA – they 
were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them could have 
been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!  The strange 
thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done to soon after 
the positive ELISA.

Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely 
positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother 
will be positive more likely than not.

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of April Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

 

In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after being 
adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know when I 
adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you request it.  
Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me to put her to 
sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't do it she was 
only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her home.  She has a 
cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is lonely being by 
herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat and her juvenile 
litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline leukemia.  I was 
thinking of looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our 
area that takes in FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not adding 
because it could make Spicy sick or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week 
to get retested for FELV, the vet said there is remote chance she could turn 
negative.  If she is still positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her 
a friend?? 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-25 Thread Beth
I would wait & have the other cat re-tested in 3 months. If they were already 
exposed to each other it is quite possible the other cat has the virus from 
Spicey but it has not yet shown up (takes at least 90 days).
I mix my positives & vaccinated negatives, but if you want to keep them 
separate, I would think about getting her a playmate, maybe a male since they 
seem to be more accepting of new cats, at least in y experience.

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From: April Johnson 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats


In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after being 
adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know when I 
adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you request it.  
Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me to put her to 
sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't do it she was 
only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her home.  She has a 
cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is lonely being by 
herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat and her juvenile 
litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline leukemia.  I was 
thinking of looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our 
area that takes in
 FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not adding because it could make 
Spicy sick or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week to get retested for 
FELV, the vet said there is remote chance she could turn negative.  If she is 
still positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her a friend?? 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-25 Thread Beth
Natalie, were they also re-tested with an Elisa? A negative IFA does NOT mean 
they don't have the virus. It just means it isn't replicating in their bone 
marrow.


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From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats


I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago…couldn’t find anyone to take him, he was very 
lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat – they became friends 
overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the IFA – they 
were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was – one of them could have 
been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!  The strange 
thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done to soon after 
the positive ELISA.
Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely 
positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother 
will be positive more likely than not.
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of April Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
 
In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after being 
adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know when I 
adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you request it.  
Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me to put her to 
sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't do it she was 
only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her home.  She has a 
cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is lonely being by 
herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat and her juvenile 
litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline leukemia.  I was 
thinking of looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our 
area that takes in
 FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not adding because it could make 
Spicy sick or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week to get retested for 
FELV, the vet said there is remote chance she could turn negative.  If she is 
still positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her a friend?? 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-24 Thread dlgegg
Get Spicy settled in and be sure your other cats are vaccinated and then you 
can introduce them to each other.  I have 2 fev positive cats and 7 negative 
cats  and no problems.  They have been together for over 2 years now.  I would 
like t meet your vet and give him/her a piece of my mind.  My vet said get the 
negatives vacinated and then wait another 2 weeks to be sure and then mix them. 
 It has been over 2 years since Annie tested positive and she is as healthy as 
the others.


 April Johnson  wrote: 
> Spicy tested positive with the ELISA test on June 11th.  She is being 
> re-tested next Wednesday and I'm having the blood sent out this time.  With 
> the ELISA test she was a strong positive the vet said.  She seems perfectly 
> healthy except one of her eyes does run some days.  She doesn't appear sick, 
> she's put on weight, eats really well.  


From: Lynda Wilson 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats


April, let me ask you this first...has an IFA test been done? This test should 
always follow a positive ELISA test. The ELISA tests have a reputation for 
false positives.
 
I will say that she does have a chance of clearing the virus. How long ago was 
Spicy originally tested?
 
Thanks!
Lynda
- Original Message - 
>From: April Johnson 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:38 PM
>Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
>
>In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
>(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
>begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after 
>being adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know 
>when I adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you 
>request it.  Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me 
>to put her to sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't 
>do it she was only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her 
>home.  She has a cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is 
>lonely being by herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat 
>and her juvenile litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline 
>leukemia.  I was thinking of looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to 
>a shelter in our area that takes in
>  FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not adding because it could 
> make Spicy sick or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week to get retested 
> for FELV, the vet said there is remote chance she could turn negative.  If 
> she is still positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her a friend?? 
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-24 Thread April Johnson
Spicy tested positive with the ELISA test on June 11th.  She is being re-tested 
next Wednesday and I'm having the blood sent out this time.  With the ELISA 
test she was a strong positive the vet said.  She seems perfectly healthy 
except one of her eyes does run some days.  She doesn't appear sick, she's put 
on weight, eats really well.  


From: Lynda Wilson 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats


April, let me ask you this first...has an IFA test been done? This test should 
always follow a positive ELISA test. The ELISA tests have a reputation for 
false positives.
 
I will say that she does have a chance of clearing the virus. How long ago was 
Spicy originally tested?
 
Thanks!
Lynda
- Original Message - 
>From: April Johnson 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:38 PM
>Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats
>
>
>In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
>(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
>begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after 
>being adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know 
>when I adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you 
>request it.  Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me 
>to put her to sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't 
>do it she was only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her 
>home.  She has a cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is 
>lonely being by herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat 
>and her juvenile litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline 
>leukemia.  I was thinking of looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to 
>a shelter in our area that takes in
 FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not adding because it could make 
Spicy sick or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week to get retested for 
FELV, the vet said there is remote chance she could turn negative.  If she is 
still positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her a friend?? 
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-24 Thread Lynda Wilson
AMEN!!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Natalie 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:51 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats


  I agree about the vet - what a stupid comment!  That's what scares me so much 
about some vets, and many people get so terrified of FeLV, they even think that 
they could get it - DUH!  It's shameless!  Maybe this is something that cat 
rescue groups could use to educate the public on the free airwaves for PSAs..

   

  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:50 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

   

  I'd get her a friend and a new vet.

  On Aug 24, 2011, at 1:38 PM, April Johnson wrote:





  In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after being 
adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know when I 
adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you request it.  
Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me to put her to 
sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't do it she was 
only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her home.  She has a 
cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is lonely being by 
herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat and her juvenile 
litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline leukemia.  I was 
thinking of looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our 
area that takes in FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not adding 
because it could make Spicy sick or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week 
to get retested for FELV, the vet said there is remote chance she could turn 
negative.  If she is still positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her 
a friend?? 

   

  April 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-24 Thread Natalie
I agree about the vet - what a stupid comment!  That's what scares me so
much about some vets, and many people get so terrified of FeLV, they even
think that they could get it - DUH!  It's shameless!  Maybe this is
something that cat rescue groups could use to educate the public on the free
airwaves for PSAs..

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

 

I'd get her a friend and a new vet.

On Aug 24, 2011, at 1:38 PM, April Johnson wrote:





In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female
(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and
begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after
being adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not
know when I adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless
you request it.  Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet
wanted me to put her to sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.
I couldn't do it she was only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare
bedroom into her home.  She has a cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.
I think she is lonely being by herself.  A rescue in my area just posted
about a mother cat and her juvenile litter of kittens having all just tested
positive for feline leukemia.  I was thinking of looking for a friend for
Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our area that takes in FELV and FIV
positive cats.  They recommended not adding because it could make Spicy sick
or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week to get retested for FELV, the
vet said there is remote chance she could turn negative.  If she is still
positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her a friend?? 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-24 Thread Lynda Wilson
April, let me ask you this first...has an IFA test been done? This test should 
always follow a positive ELISA test. The ELISA tests have a reputation for 
false positives.

I will say that she does have a chance of clearing the virus. How long ago was 
Spicy originally tested?

Thanks!
Lynda
  - Original Message - 
  From: April Johnson 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 1:38 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats


  In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after being 
adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know when I 
adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you request it.  
Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me to put her to 
sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't do it she was 
only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her home.  She has a 
cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is lonely being by 
herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat and her juvenile 
litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline leukemia.  I was 
thinking of looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our 
area that takes in FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not adding 
because it could make Spicy sick or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week 
to get retested for FELV, the vet said there is remote chance she could turn 
negative.  If she is still positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her 
a friend?? 

  April 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-24 Thread Natalie
I got a FeLV+ cat 3/2 yrs ago.couldn't find anyone to take him, he was very
lonely.  After two yrs alone, I found another FeLV+ cat - they became
friends overnight.  A few months ago, I decided to retest them, using the
IFA - they were both negative.  Just imagine, how lucky I was - one of them
could have been positive, and I would have exposed the healthy one to FeLV!
The strange thing is that the new cat had also had the IFA, but it was done
to soon after the positive ELISA.

Once you know that your cat is definitely positive, get another definitely
positive cat for company.  Chances are great that kittens of a FeLV+ mother
will be positive more likely than not.

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of April Johnson
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 2:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

 

In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female
(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and
begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after
being adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not
know when I adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless
you request it.  Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet
wanted me to put her to sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.
I couldn't do it she was only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare
bedroom into her home.  She has a cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.
I think she is lonely being by herself.  A rescue in my area just posted
about a mother cat and her juvenile litter of kittens having all just tested
positive for feline leukemia.  I was thinking of looking for a friend for
Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our area that takes in FELV and FIV
positive cats.  They recommended not adding because it could make Spicy sick
or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week to get retested for FELV, the
vet said there is remote chance she could turn negative.  If she is still
positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her a friend?? 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-24 Thread Terri Brown
I agree.

I had a FeLV+ cat that lived to 9-1/2 years.  It's not a death sentence.

I also mixed FeLV and non-Felv, without ever having one of my negatives get the 
disease.  Make sure your negatives are current on boosters, and you should be 
fine.  If you can take in a FeLV+ baby for a companion for Spicy, I think that 
would be great!

You need to find a vet with a more progressive attitude toward this disease.  
It's manageable.  

=^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
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  I'd get her a friend and a new vet.

  On Aug 24, 2011, at 1:38 PM, April Johnson wrote:


In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange female 
(Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun with cats and 
begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to the vets a week after being 
adopted the receptionist asked if we wanted them tested.  I did not know when I 
adopted them that animal control does not test the cats unless you request it.  
Well Spicy tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me to put her to 
sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't do it she was 
only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom into her home.  She has a 
cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.  I think she is lonely being by 
herself.  A rescue in my area just posted about a mother cat and her juvenile 
litter of kittens having all just tested positive for feline leukemia.  I was 
thinking of looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our 
area that takes in FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not adding 
because it could make Spicy sick or the other cat sick.  Spicy is do next week 
to get retested for FELV, the vet said there is remote chance she could turn 
negative.  If she is still positive  do you think it would hurt her to get her 
a friend?? 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Having two Feline Leukemia cats

2011-08-24 Thread MaiMaiPG

I'd get her a friend and a new vet.
On Aug 24, 2011, at 1:38 PM, April Johnson wrote:

In June we adopted two cats a young black female(Spicy) and a orange  
female (Sunny) from animal control.  Our local shelter was overrun  
with cats and begging people to come adopt.  When we took them to  
the vets a week after being adopted the receptionist asked if we  
wanted them tested.  I did not know when I adopted them that animal  
control does not test the cats unless you request it.  Well Spicy  
tested positive for Feline Leukemia.  My vet wanted me to put her to  
sleep because she couldn't live with my other cats.  I couldn't do  
it she was only 10 months old.  So I transformed a spare bedroom  
into her home.  She has a cat tree, sofa, windows and toys galore.   
I think she is lonely being by herself.  A rescue in my area just  
posted about a mother cat and her juvenile litter of kittens having  
all just tested positive for feline leukemia.  I was thinking of  
looking for a friend for Spicy.  I had talked to a shelter in our  
area that takes in FELV and FIV positive cats.  They recommended not  
adding because it could make Spicy sick or the other cat sick.   
Spicy is do next week to get retested for FELV, the vet said there  
is remote chance she could turn negative.  If she is still positive   
do you think it would hurt her to get her a friend??


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