Re: Acemannan availability

2006-10-26 Thread ETrent





Believe me, Kat - I am on the look out for killer rabbits.
 
Considering the amount of stress, crapola, red tape and politics 
I go through on a daily basis (not to mention having to code like a 
bandit) - this is somewhere down in the noise as far as the amount of 
stress generated.  I'm very glad to do it - I just hope we can get some 
answers and that it is helpful.
 
elizabeth
 
In a message dated 10/26/2006 4:50:05 P.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Elizabeth,It almost sounds like a Monty Python skit in the 
  making...I applaud you for your perseverance and your patience - 
  Iprobably would have had a meltdown by now!!Please keep on 
  keeping-on, you're doing a wonderful thingfor all of us!Kat (Mew 
  Jersey)On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> Date: Thu, 26 
  Oct 2006 16:54:02 -0400> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
  Subject: Re: Acemannan availability>> I think my ear is purple 
  from being on hold and I am quite dizzy from the "run-around".>> 
  That being said, I am still awaiting calls from the CEO of Carrington Labs and 
  from the FDA.  I contacted the USDA and talked to the main office, 
  USDA-Veterinary Services, USDA-APHIS (Animal and Plant Health Investigative 
  Services), USDA-Animal Care, and finally a member of the senior staff at 
  USDA-APHIS, Dr. Davis.  Dr. Davis was very helpful and he has worked in 
  this office for many years.  He tells me that injectible Acemannan falls 
  outside the jurisdiction of the USDA.  They handle vaccines - but no 
  other veterinary medicines.  He checked his resources and said that this 
  drug was approved by the FDA and that it would fall under their 
  jurisdiction.>> I asked Dr. Davis if the USDA removed products 
  from commerce while conducting audits.  He told me that he has never 
  heard of that happening in all his years working for the USDA.>> 
  After my conversation with Dr. Davis, I called Dr. Nicholson at Veterinary 
  Products Laboratories and told her what I had learned from the USDA.  I 
  asked her if they had documentation that informed them of the audit and if she 
  could check that for me and verify the initiator of the audit.  She told 
  me that this information was passed down to them from Carrington Labs.  I 
  asked Dr. Nicholson if she thought it would be helpful for me to write my 
  congressman.  She told me that a lot of people were doing that and it 
  could only help.>> Meanwhile, we wait to talk to the FDA and 
  Carrington Labs (or rather, the appropriate office for redirection of 
  blame).>> Stay tuned for another episode in the continuing 
  saga...> Elizabeth>> *Save the earth. It's the only 
  planet with chocolate.*>>> -Original 
  Message-> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: 
  felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 1:09 PM> 
  Subject: Re: Acemannan availability>>> Dr. Nicholson at 
  Veterinary Laboratories returned my call a moment ago.  The organization 
  responsible for this audit is the USDA.  She gave me some contact numbers 
  there and I am going to do my very best to be professional when I express to 
  the USDA my displeasure with knowing that there are cats whose lives may have 
  depended on this product while they took their time doing their audit.  
  Dr. Nicholson told me this one man who is in charge of the veterinary division 
  may not even know about this but I assured her that he would after I spoke to 
  him.>> The mixture used in the injectible Acemannan (pronounced 
  like it sounds - "Ace manan") is proprietary and so there is no generic and 
  they have people from over seas calling everyday trying to get the 
  product.  Right now, it simply isn't available.  Dr. Nicholson did 
  not know why Acemannan Hydrogel is not subjected to the audit when it contains 
  the same raw ingredients.  There is another lab right now that has an 
  audit going on but the product being audited is not currently withheld from 
  commerce.  The USDA has some questions to answer.>> 
  Meanwhile, I asked Dr. Nicholson if there was a human equivalent to 
  Acemannan.  She told me that Manapol Plus (by Carrington Labs) is used 
  for people.  It is taken orally rather than as an injection.  She 
  was not sure if this product had been studied for use in cats but she thought 
  it may have been.>> I asked her if the USDA had given any 
  indication of how long this audit would last - and she told me that the last 
  she heard, they hoped to be through in November.>> What I want 
  to know is what gives the USDA the right to remove a proprietary product from 
  the market that has been proven to save cat's lives?  Even if lives 
  weren't at stake - what gives them the right to shut down this company's 
  bot

Re: Acemannan availability

2006-10-26 Thread Kat
Elizabeth,

It almost sounds like a Monty Python skit in the making...

I applaud you for your perseverance and your patience - I
probably would have had a meltdown by now!!

Please keep on keeping-on, you're doing a wonderful thing
for all of us!

Kat (Mew Jersey)
On Thu, 26 Oct 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 16:54:02 -0400
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: Acemannan availability
>
> I think my ear is purple from being on hold and I am quite dizzy from the 
> "run-around".
>
> That being said, I am still awaiting calls from the CEO of Carrington Labs 
> and from the FDA.  I contacted the USDA and talked to the main office, 
> USDA-Veterinary Services, USDA-APHIS (Animal and Plant Health Investigative 
> Services), USDA-Animal Care, and finally a member of the senior staff at 
> USDA-APHIS, Dr. Davis.  Dr. Davis was very helpful and he has worked in this 
> office for many years.  He tells me that injectible Acemannan falls outside 
> the jurisdiction of the USDA.  They handle vaccines - but no other veterinary 
> medicines.  He checked his resources and said that this drug was approved by 
> the FDA and that it would fall under their jurisdiction.
>
> I asked Dr. Davis if the USDA removed products from commerce while conducting 
> audits.  He told me that he has never heard of that happening in all his 
> years working for the USDA.
>
> After my conversation with Dr. Davis, I called Dr. Nicholson at Veterinary 
> Products Laboratories and told her what I had learned from the USDA.  I asked 
> her if they had documentation that informed them of the audit and if she 
> could check that for me and verify the initiator of the audit.  She told me 
> that this information was passed down to them from Carrington Labs.  I asked 
> Dr. Nicholson if she thought it would be helpful for me to write my 
> congressman.  She told me that a lot of people were doing that and it could 
> only help.
>
> Meanwhile, we wait to talk to the FDA and Carrington Labs (or rather, the 
> appropriate office for redirection of blame).
>
> Stay tuned for another episode in the continuing saga...
> Elizabeth
>
> *Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.*
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 1:09 PM
> Subject: Re: Acemannan availability
>
>
> Dr. Nicholson at Veterinary Laboratories returned my call a moment ago.  The 
> organization responsible for this audit is the USDA.  She gave me some 
> contact numbers there and I am going to do my very best to be professional 
> when I express to the USDA my displeasure with knowing that there are cats 
> whose lives may have depended on this product while they took their time 
> doing their audit.  Dr. Nicholson told me this one man who is in charge of 
> the veterinary division may not even know about this but I assured her that 
> he would after I spoke to him.
>
> The mixture used in the injectible Acemannan (pronounced like it sounds - 
> "Ace manan") is proprietary and so there is no generic and they have people 
> from over seas calling everyday trying to get the product.  Right now, it 
> simply isn't available.  Dr. Nicholson did not know why Acemannan Hydrogel is 
> not subjected to the audit when it contains the same raw ingredients.  There 
> is another lab right now that has an audit going on but the product being 
> audited is not currently withheld from commerce.  The USDA has some questions 
> to answer.
>
> Meanwhile, I asked Dr. Nicholson if there was a human equivalent to 
> Acemannan.  She told me that Manapol Plus (by Carrington Labs) is used for 
> people.  It is taken orally rather than as an injection.  She was not sure if 
> this product had been studied for use in cats but she thought it may have 
> been.
>
> I asked her if the USDA had given any indication of how long this audit would 
> last - and she told me that the last she heard, they hoped to be through in 
> November.
>
> What I want to know is what gives the USDA the right to remove a proprietary 
> product from the market that has been proven to save cat's lives?  Even if 
> lives weren't at stake - what gives them the right to shut down this 
> company's bottom line?  What if this were the only product they made?  This 
> goes against everything our system stands for and I refuse to sit passively 
> while this happens.  I'm wondering if I need to write my congressman.
>
>
> Kiss the kitties for me,
> elizabeth
>
> *Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.*
>
>
> -Origin

Re: Acemannan availability

2006-10-26 Thread etrent

I think my ear is purple from being on hold and I am quite dizzy from the "run-around".


 


That being said, I am still awaiting calls from the CEO of Carrington Labs and from the FDA.  I contacted the USDA and talked to the main office, USDA-Veterinary Services, USDA-APHIS (Animal and Plant Health Investigative Services), USDA-Animal Care, and finally a member of the senior staff at USDA-APHIS, Dr. Davis.  Dr. Davis was very helpful and he has worked in this office for many years.  He tells me that injectible Acemannan falls outside the jurisdiction of the USDA.  They handle vaccines - but no other veterinary medicines.  He checked his resources and said that this drug was approved by the FDA and that it would fall under their jurisdiction.   


 


I asked Dr. Davis if the USDA removed products from commerce while conducting audits.  He told me that he has never heard of that happening in all his years working for the USDA.  


 


After my conversation with Dr. Davis, I called Dr. Nicholson at Veterinary Products Laboratories and told her what I had learned from the USDA.  I asked her if they had documentation that informed them of the audit and if she could check that for me and verify the initiator of the audit.  She told me that this information was passed down to them from Carrington Labs.  I asked Dr. Nicholson if she thought it would be helpful for me to write my congressman.  She told me that a lot of people were doing that and it could only help.


 


Meanwhile, we wait to talk to the FDA and Carrington Labs (or rather, the appropriate office for redirection of blame).


 


Stay tuned for another episode in the continuing saga...


Elizabeth 


 


*Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.*


 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 1:09 PM
Subject: Re: Acemannan availability







Dr. Nicholson at Veterinary Laboratories returned my call a moment ago.  The organization responsible for this audit is the USDA.  She gave me some contact numbers there and I am going to do my very best to be professional when I express to the USDA my displeasure with knowing that there are cats whose lives may have depended on this product while they took their time doing their audit.  Dr. Nicholson told me this one man who is in charge of the veterinary division may not even know about this but I assured her that he would after I spoke to him.


 


The mixture used in the injectible Acemannan (pronounced like it sounds - "Ace manan") is proprietary and so there is no generic and they have people from over seas calling everyday trying to get the product.  Right now, it simply isn't available.  Dr. Nicholson did not know why Acemannan Hydrogel is not subjected to the audit when it contains the same raw ingredients.  There is another lab right now that has an audit going on but the product being audited is not currently withheld from commerce.  The USDA has some questions to answer.


 


Meanwhile, I asked Dr. Nicholson if there was a human equivalent to Acemannan.  She told me that Manapol Plus (by Carrington Labs) is used for people.  It is taken orally rather than as an injection.  She was not sure if this product had been studied for use in cats but she thought it may have been.


 


I asked her if the USDA had given any indication of how long this audit would last - and she told me that the last she heard, they hoped to be through in November.


 


What I want to know is what gives the USDA the right to remove a proprietary product from the market that has been proven to save cat's lives?  Even if lives weren't at stake - what gives them the right to shut down this company's bottom line?  What if this were the only product they made?  This goes against everything our system stands for and I refuse to sit passively while this happens.  I'm wondering if I need to write my congressman.


 


 


Kiss the kitties for me,


elizabeth


 


*Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.*


 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Acemannan availability





Elizabeth,

Thanks for doing this!!!  That is awesome of you to
take time to find out what's going on.  You are
helping out so many others by doing this-that's why I
like you!

:)
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've been on the phone this morning with Veterinary
> Products Laboratories.  They were unable to answer
> my questions but say they will have someone call me.
>  I also left a message for the CEO of Carrington
> Labs (without a great deal of hope that they will
> return my call).  I did my best to be friendly and
> professional...here is a list of my questions (and
> general talking points):
>  
> I understand that the injectable form of veterinary

Re: Acemannan availability

2006-10-26 Thread etrent

Dr. Nicholson at Veterinary Laboratories returned my call a moment ago.  The organization responsible for this audit is the USDA.  She gave me some contact numbers there and I am going to do my very best to be professional when I express to the USDA my displeasure with knowing that there are cats whose lives may have depended on this product while they took their time doing their audit.  Dr. Nicholson told me this one man who is in charge of the veterinary division may not even know about this but I assured her that he would after I spoke to him.


 


The mixture used in the injectible Acemannan (pronounced like it sounds - "Ace manan") is proprietary and so there is no generic and they have people from over seas calling everyday trying to get the product.  Right now, it simply isn't available.  Dr. Nicholson did not know why Acemannan Hydrogel is not subjected to the audit when it contains the same raw ingredients.  There is another lab right now that has an audit going on but the product being audited is not currently withheld from commerce.  The USDA has some questions to answer.


 


Meanwhile, I asked Dr. Nicholson if there was a human equivalent to Acemannan.  She told me that Manapol Plus (by Carrington Labs) is used for people.  It is taken orally rather than as an injection.  She was not sure if this product had been studied for use in cats but she thought it may have been.


 


I asked her if the USDA had given any indication of how long this audit would last - and she told me that the last she heard, they hoped to be through in November.


 


What I want to know is what gives the USDA the right to remove a proprietary product from the market that has been proven to save cat's lives?  Even if lives weren't at stake - what gives them the right to shut down this company's bottom line?  What if this were the only product they made?  This goes against everything our system stands for and I refuse to sit passively while this happens.  I'm wondering if I need to write my congressman.


 


 


Kiss the kitties for me,


elizabeth


 


*Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.*


 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 11:47 AM
Subject: Re: Acemannan availability





Elizabeth,

Thanks for doing this!!!  That is awesome of you to
take time to find out what's going on.  You are
helping out so many others by doing this-that's why I
like you!

:)
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've been on the phone this morning with Veterinary
> Products Laboratories.  They were unable to answer
> my questions but say they will have someone call me.
>  I also left a message for the CEO of Carrington
> Labs (without a great deal of hope that they will
> return my call).  I did my best to be friendly and
> professional...here is a list of my questions (and
> general talking points):
>  
> I understand that the injectable form of veterinary
> Acemannan is being withheld from the market due to
> an audit of this product.  As a member of the
> felineleukemia.org mailing list, I would like to ask
> you some questions.  We have no commercial interests
> and only want to give our pets the best possible
> life.  Many of us have very sick cats with feline
> leukemia and would very much like to purchase your
> product.
>  
> 1) What organization is responsible for the
> unavailability of this product?  Do you have the
> name of a contact person for this organization?
>  
> 2) When was this audit instigated?
>  
> 3) It was my understanding that this is a
> routine audit – yet this audit has been going on
> for well over a month.  This is the first I have
> heard of a routine audit that prohibits people who
> need the drug from purchasing it for such a long
> period of time.  How often does this happen and are
> there any other products which might suddenly become
> unavailable for long periods of time?
>  
> 4) I notice that wound dressings containing
> Acemannan Hydrogel are still available on the market
> – how is it that the non-injectable form of the
> product is not affected by the audit?
>  
> 5) Is this product available outside the US?
>  
> 6) Is it possible to purchase the raw materials
> and formulate Acemannan for injection for personal
> use only?
>  
> 7) Where can I go for more information?
>  
> Thank you for your time.
>  
> I don't know where to go from here.  I'm thinking of
> contacting the FDA and asking them which
> organization instigated this audit and ask where I
> can go for more information.  If I find out anything
> further, I will let you all know.
>  
> elizabeth
>  
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
&g

Re: Acemannan availability

2006-10-26 Thread wendy
Elizabeth,

Thanks for doing this!!!  That is awesome of you to
take time to find out what's going on.  You are
helping out so many others by doing this-that's why I
like you!

:)
Wendy

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> I've been on the phone this morning with Veterinary
> Products Laboratories.  They were unable to answer
> my questions but say they will have someone call me.
>  I also left a message for the CEO of Carrington
> Labs (without a great deal of hope that they will
> return my call).  I did my best to be friendly and
> professional...here is a list of my questions (and
> general talking points):
>  
> I understand that the injectable form of veterinary
> Acemannan is being withheld from the market due to
> an audit of this product.  As a member of the
> felineleukemia.org mailing list, I would like to ask
> you some questions.  We have no commercial interests
> and only want to give our pets the best possible
> life.  Many of us have very sick cats with feline
> leukemia and would very much like to purchase your
> product.
>  
> 1) What organization is responsible for the
> unavailability of this product?  Do you have the
> name of a contact person for this organization?
>  
> 2) When was this audit instigated?
>  
> 3) It was my understanding that this is a
> routine audit – yet this audit has been going on
> for well over a month.  This is the first I have
> heard of a routine audit that prohibits people who
> need the drug from purchasing it for such a long
> period of time.  How often does this happen and are
> there any other products which might suddenly become
> unavailable for long periods of time?
>  
> 4) I notice that wound dressings containing
> Acemannan Hydrogel are still available on the market
> – how is it that the non-injectable form of the
> product is not affected by the audit?
>  
> 5) Is this product available outside the US?
>  
> 6) Is it possible to purchase the raw materials
> and formulate Acemannan for injection for personal
> use only?
>  
> 7) Where can I go for more information?
>  
> Thank you for your time.
>  
> I don't know where to go from here.  I'm thinking of
> contacting the FDA and asking them which
> organization instigated this audit and ask where I
> can go for more information.  If I find out anything
> further, I will let you all know.
>  
> elizabeth
>  
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 6:26 AM
> Subject: Re: Acemannan availability
> 
> 
> Soon after they first began to withhold this product
> from the market, I called Veterinary Products Lab. 
> (Hideyo found out about this initially when she was
> trying to buy the product).  It was still available
> on their site then too.  That's when they told me
> about the audit.  At that time I searched for
> restrictions and found nothing as well.  They said
> this kind of audit was routine but I find that hard
> to believe since it has been withheld for so long.
>  
> elizabeth
>  
>  
> In a message dated 10/26/2006 6:12:37 A.M. Central
> Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
http://www.vpl.com/product.php?catmain=&mainkey=&pid=80&key=8&cat=Wound%20Management
> 
> so the injectible is still on their current webpage,
> for what that's worth!
> 
> On 10/26/06, Paolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I dug in my old Emails about ACEMANNAN (please
> note the double N in the
> > spelling, if you use a search engine ACEMANAN
> won't work), and in effects
> > once I contacted Carrington Labs, and they
> redirected me to Veterinary
> > Products Laboratories (VPL, http://www.vpl.com),
> that unfortunately I
> > could not contact at that time because their mail
> server kept bouncing
> > back my emails.
> > From the info in my possession, injected Acemannan
> works great with a
> > number of *localized* (i.e. not spread) tumors.
> Carrington Labs, at that
> > time, did not mention any FDA restriction.
> >
> > Good luck
> > Paolo
> >
> >
> 
> 
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Re: Acemannan availability

2006-10-26 Thread etrent

You are so welcome!  Interesting.  I just contacted the U.S. Food and Drug Administration Center for Veterinary Medicine and talked to a very nice lady there.  I told her the situation and the experience I had with VPL and Carrington Labs and told her that I didn't know if their office was the correct organization to contact for more information but hoped that if it wasn't they could direct me to the appropriate office.


 


The lady told me that she has worked for that office for over 10 years and has never heard of anything like that...that she has never heard of an audit that took a veterinary product off the market and that she seriously wonders if that is the truth.  She wrote down all the information and she is discussing this with others in the office.  I got the impression that they might think this is quite curious as well.


 


(i better get back to work before they fire me!  -- more info as it comes) 


elizabeth



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: Acemannan availability












Elizabeth, thank your for doing this.


 









From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006 9:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Acemannan availability



 




I've been on the phone this morning with Veterinary Products Laboratories.  They were unable to answer my questions but say they will have someone call me.  I also left a message for the CEO of Carrington Labs (without a great deal of hope that they will return my call).  I did my best to be friendly and professional...here is a list of my questions (and general talking points):





 







I understand that the injectable form of veterinary Acemannan is being withheld from the market due to an audit of this product.  As a member of the felineleukemia.org mailing list, I would like to ask you some questions.  We have no commercial interests and only want to give our pets the best possible life.  Many of us have very sick cats with feline leukemia and would very much like to purchase your product.





 





1) What organization is responsible for the unavailability of this product?  Do you have the name of a contact person for this organization?





 





2) When was this audit instigated?





 





3) It was my understanding that this is a routine audit – yet this audit has been going on for well over a month.  This is the first I have heard of a routine audit that prohibits people who need the drug from purchasing it for such a long period of time.  How often does this happen and are there any other products which might suddenly become unavailable for long periods of time?





 





4) I notice that wound dressings containing Acemannan Hydrogel are still available on the market – how is it that the non-injectable form of the product is not affected by the audit?





 





5) Is this product available outside the US?





 





6) Is it possible to purchase the raw materials and formulate Acemannan for injection for personal use only?





 





7) Where can I go for more information?





 





Thank you for your time.





 





I don't know where to go from here.  I'm thinking of contacting the FDA and asking them which organization instigated this audit and ask where I can go for more information.  If I find out anything further, I will let you all know.





 





elizabeth






 





 



 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: Acemannan availability










Soon after they first began to withhold this product from the market, I called Veterinary Products Lab.  (Hideyo found out about this initially when she was trying to buy the product).  It was still available on their site then too.  That's when they told me about the audit.  At that time I searched for restrictions and found nothing as well.  They said this kind of audit was routine but I find that hard to believe since it has been withheld for so long.





 





elizabeth





 





 





In a message dated 10/26/2006 6:12:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:




http://www.vpl.com/product.php?catmain=&mainkey=&pid=80&key=8&cat=Wound%20Management

so the injectible is still on their current webpage, for what that's worth!

On 10/26/06, Paolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I dug in my old Emails about ACEMANNAN (please note the double N in the
> spelling, if you use a search engine ACEMANAN won't work), and in effects
> once I contacted Carrington Labs, and they redirected me to Veterinary
> Products Laboratories (VPL, http://www.vpl.com), that unfortunately I
> could not contact at that time because their mail server kept bouncing
> back my emails.
> From the info in my 

RE: Acemannan availability

2006-10-26 Thread Hideyo Yamamoto








Elizabeth, thank your for doing this.

 









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, October 26, 2006
9:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Acemannan
availability



 



I've been on the phone this morning with Veterinary Products
Laboratories.  They were unable to answer my questions but say they will
have someone call me.  I also left a message for the CEO of Carrington
Labs (without a great deal of hope that they will return my call).  I did
my best to be friendly and professional...here is a list of my questions (and
general talking points):





 







I understand that the injectable form of veterinary
Acemannan is being withheld from the market due to an audit of this product. 
As a member of the felineleukemia.org mailing list, I would like to ask
you some questions.  We have no commercial interests and only want to give our
pets the best possible life.  Many of us have very sick cats with feline
leukemia and would very much like to purchase your product.





 





1) What organization is
responsible for the unavailability of this product?  Do you have the name of a
contact person for this organization?





 





2) When was this audit
instigated?





 





3) It was my understanding
that this is a routine audit – yet this audit has been going on for well
over a month.  This is the first I have heard of a routine audit that prohibits
people who need the drug from purchasing it for such a long period of time. 
How often does this happen and are there any other products which might
suddenly become unavailable for long periods of time?





 





4) I notice that wound
dressings containing Acemannan Hydrogel are still available on the market – how
is it that the non-injectable form of the product is not affected by the audit?





 





5) Is this product available
outside the US?





 





6) Is it possible to purchase
the raw materials and formulate Acemannan for injection for personal use only?





 





7) Where can I go for more
information?





 





Thank you for your time.





 





I don't know where to go from
here.  I'm thinking of contacting the FDA and asking them which
organization instigated this audit and ask where I can go for more
information.  If I find out anything further, I will let you all know.





 





elizabeth







 





 



 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: Acemannan availability









Soon after they first
began to withhold this product from the market, I called Veterinary Products
Lab.  (Hideyo found out about this initially when she was trying to
buy the product).  It was still available on their site then too. 
That's when they told me about the audit.  At that time I searched for
restrictions and found nothing as well.  They said this kind of audit was
routine but I find that hard to believe since it has been withheld for so long.





 





elizabeth





 





 





In a message dated
10/26/2006 6:12:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:





http://www.vpl.com/product.php?catmain=&mainkey=&pid=80&key=8&cat=Wound%20Management

so the injectible is still on their current webpage, for what that's worth!

On 10/26/06, Paolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I dug in my old Emails about ACEMANNAN (please note the double N in the
> spelling, if you use a search engine ACEMANAN won't work), and in effects
> once I contacted Carrington Labs, and they redirected me to Veterinary
> Products Laboratories (VPL, http://www.vpl.com), that unfortunately I
> could not contact at that time because their mail server kept bouncing
> back my emails.
> From the info in my possession, injected Acemannan works great with a
> number of *localized* (i.e. not spread) tumors. Carrington Labs, at that
> time, did not mention any FDA restriction.
>
> Good luck
> Paolo
>
>


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Re: Acemannan availability

2006-10-26 Thread etrent

I've been on the phone this morning with Veterinary Products Laboratories.  They were unable to answer my questions but say they will have someone call me.  I also left a message for the CEO of Carrington Labs (without a great deal of hope that they will return my call).  I did my best to be friendly and professional...here is a list of my questions (and general talking points):


 




I understand that the injectable form of veterinary Acemannan is being withheld from the market due to an audit of this product.  As a member of the felineleukemia.org mailing list, I would like to ask you some questions.  We have no commercial interests and only want to give our pets the best possible life.  Many of us have very sick cats with feline leukemia and would very much like to purchase your product.


 


1) What organization is responsible for the unavailability of this product?  Do you have the name of a contact person for this organization?


 


2) When was this audit instigated?


 


3) It was my understanding that this is a routine audit – yet this audit has been going on for well over a month.  This is the first I have heard of a routine audit that prohibits people who need the drug from purchasing it for such a long period of time.  How often does this happen and are there any other products which might suddenly become unavailable for long periods of time?


 


4) I notice that wound dressings containing Acemannan Hydrogel are still available on the market – how is it that the non-injectable form of the product is not affected by the audit?


 


5) Is this product available outside the US?


 


6) Is it possible to purchase the raw materials and formulate Acemannan for injection for personal use only?


 


7) Where can I go for more information?


 


Thank you for your time.


 


I don't know where to go from here.  I'm thinking of contacting the FDA and asking them which organization instigated this audit and ask where I can go for more information.  If I find out anything further, I will let you all know.


 


elizabeth



 


 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 6:26 AM
Subject: Re: Acemannan availability











Soon after they first began to withhold this product from the market, I called Veterinary Products Lab.  (Hideyo found out about this initially when she was trying to buy the product).  It was still available on their site then too.  That's when they told me about the audit.  At that time I searched for restrictions and found nothing as well.  They said this kind of audit was routine but I find that hard to believe since it has been withheld for so long.


 


elizabeth


 


 


In a message dated 10/26/2006 6:12:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

http://www.vpl.com/product.php?catmain=&mainkey=&pid=80&key=8&cat=Wound%20Management

so the injectible is still on their current webpage, for what that's worth!

On 10/26/06, Paolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I dug in my old Emails about ACEMANNAN (please note the double N in the
> spelling, if you use a search engine ACEMANAN won't work), and in effects
> once I contacted Carrington Labs, and they redirected me to Veterinary
> Products Laboratories (VPL, http://www.vpl.com), that unfortunately I
> could not contact at that time because their mail server kept bouncing
> back my emails.
> From the info in my possession, injected Acemannan works great with a
> number of *localized* (i.e. not spread) tumors. Carrington Labs, at that
> time, did not mention any FDA restriction.
>
> Good luck
> Paolo
>
>


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Re: Acemannan availability

2006-10-26 Thread ETrent





Soon after they first began to withhold this product from the market, I 
called Veterinary Products Lab.  (Hideyo found out about this 
initially when she was trying to buy the product).  It was still available 
on their site then too.  That's when they told me about the audit.  At 
that time I searched for restrictions and found nothing as well.  They said 
this kind of audit was routine but I find that hard to believe since it has been 
withheld for so long.
 
elizabeth
 
 
In a message dated 10/26/2006 6:12:37 A.M. Central Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
http://www.vpl.com/product.php?catmain=&mainkey=&pid=80&key=8&cat=Wound%20Managementso 
  the injectible is still on their current webpage, for what that's 
  worth!On 10/26/06, Paolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> I 
  dug in my old Emails about ACEMANNAN (please note the double N in the> 
  spelling, if you use a search engine ACEMANAN won't work), and in 
  effects> once I contacted Carrington Labs, and they redirected me to 
  Veterinary> Products Laboratories (VPL, http://www.vpl.com), that 
  unfortunately I> could not contact at that time because their mail 
  server kept bouncing> back my emails.> From the info in my 
  possession, injected Acemannan works great with a> number of 
  *localized* (i.e. not spread) tumors. Carrington Labs, at that> time, 
  did not mention any FDA restriction.>> Good luck> 
  Paolo>>-- Spay & Neuter Your 
  Neighbors!Maybe That'll Make The 
  DifferenceMaryChristineAIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
 


Re: Acemannan availability

2006-10-26 Thread TenHouseCats

http://www.vpl.com/product.php?catmain=&mainkey=&pid=80&key=8&cat=Wound%20Management

so the injectible is still on their current webpage, for what that's worth!

On 10/26/06, Paolo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I dug in my old Emails about ACEMANNAN (please note the double N in the
spelling, if you use a search engine ACEMANAN won't work), and in effects
once I contacted Carrington Labs, and they redirected me to Veterinary
Products Laboratories (VPL, http://www.vpl.com), that unfortunately I
could not contact at that time because their mail server kept bouncing
back my emails.
From the info in my possession, injected Acemannan works great with a
number of *localized* (i.e. not spread) tumors. Carrington Labs, at that
time, did not mention any FDA restriction.

Good luck
Paolo





--
Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference

MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892