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Sam, I haven't checked my email for quite a while, as I am putting in hay for the horses (so sorry for the late answer). I am an animal nutritionist and physiologist and would be more than willing to speak with you over the phone about your kitties. That is much easier for me than email, as I don't get a chance to check it very often. I have had much success with multiple FeLV positive cats in the past. Give me a call at 740-992-5782 after 9pm EST. After I get the specifics of your new kitty, I can give you several targeted suggestions that have worked very well for me over the years. Karen Griffith Karen Griffith Farms 34440 State Route 7 Pomeroy, Ohio 45769 Phone: 740-992-5782 Website: www.karengriffith.com Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 10:13 PM Subject: Greetings Again Greetings Again, I have not been very active here since the passing of my LeLV cat Elric Whiteybone. Since then I have been active in cat rescue. Recently I have lost another cat to this disease, he came to our back porch, and rubbed between my wifes legs. He was more than friendly, but he had a full mucus mustache on his face. He tested positive for LeLV but not FIV, the respiratory infection which was giving him his mucus mustache did not respond to any of the 5+ antibiotics we used on him. We named him Gio short for Giovanni. With in two weeks the disease did it work on his body along with the respiratory infection. On a Saturday we took him to our Rescue Groups Veterinarian. We got there way early and were able to spend over an hour with him there. When the Veterinarian got there, she asked if this was our kitty or a rescue kitty. We responded he was a rescue kitty and that we were staying with him while his time came. So while the Veterinarian gave him the meds to ease his passing, my wife and I were holding and touching him. We both felt him relax then go totally limp. After a bit the Vet listened for his heart, and said he was gone. We spent another 15 minutes with him. Later the Vet came in and asked what we wanted to do with Gio's body. We replied that we already had place dug for him in our back yard by our porch and the catnip bush that grew nearby. She seemed taken a back that we were doing this for a rescue kitty. I believe she got her eyes opened about those that rescue cats/kitties. We took him home and placed him in the spot we prepared for him. We have been putting food out of the strays in our neighborhood, getting them snipped and returned. We recently heard a sound while we were eating breakfast coming from our back patio. It sounded like two male cats squaring off to fight. When we looked it was a single domestic short haired Gray male cat. We named him Gus as in Grumpy Gus. He was at first a bit shy, but later became much easier to handle. We spoke to our rescue group about him, offered to foster him, they said they would pay for his testing and snipping if we fostered him. Well the news from the testing was not good, it was the SNAP test and by that test he was positive for LeLV. We have him in a separate bedroom where he gets his love and food. I am wondering if any here have any experience with the various immune system enhancing drugs/compounds. I want to boost his immune system so he has a chance to throw off the infection prior to his next series of tests. As of right now he has no symptoms of any disease. Sam ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Greetings again
Jane Lyons wrote: Hi Nina I'm writing from the site, but I am not sure it will go to the list. If this reaches the list, Sam I've had good results with L-lysine (500mg's daily which I split between 2 feedings) and a liquid supplement called DMG. I have also found that good quality food helps. As everyone on this list will tell you, a lot of love and affection and a low stress existence is key. It is great that Gus is without symptoms. Hopefully you can boost his immunity and he will be able to throw the virus. Here's hoping. To the list: Since the server problems I have not been able to send or receive messages. James cannot figure it out. If anyone knows how to get back on, please let me know. Thanks Jane [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Sam, First of all, bless you and your wife for opening your hearts and home to those in need. I'm so sorry for your loss. Yes, we all get how quickly our hearts can be stolen by the wayward ones that find us just a little too late. I'm so glad you were there for your rescue friend to show him that humans are capable of love and compassion. Now Grumpy Gus has entered your life and given you another opportunity to fight this dreadful disease... I haven't been active on the felv list in a while, but recently there was some trouble with the list serve and it caused my subscription to change from digest to inbox and I peeked in to see how things were going for the good people here. It was in that vein that I opened your post and noticed that no one had responded yet. I went to check on the mail-archive page and not only are there no replies, but your original message isn't there either. It may have something to do with the recent trouble. Anyway, I didn't want you to think that no one cares about what you are going through. I'm sure others will step in to help inform you, (or correct me if my memory is faulty or current thinking has changed). There are many supplements that the folks on this list have found helpful for boosting the immune system of kitties fighting/living with the disease. As you've indicated you are aware that Gus could throw the virus, (retesting is usually done 90-120 days after initial diagnosis). Keeping the environment as stress free as possible, as good a quality diet as you can afford, supplements and lots of encouragement and love have helped my felv and fiv guys live longer and healthier lives. I'm trying to remember all the supps I've used... There's Transfer Factor, CoQ10, L-Lysine, Vitamin supps, (esp C)... I've often wondered if feline interferon might be more effective on cats that have recently contracted the disease and are in the process of fighting it off. Hopefully others will jump in to help you sort it all out. Are you familiar with ELISA, (in-house snap test), vs IFA, (more conclusive test sent out of office)? There is a wealth of information in the lists archives and right about the time I left the list someone started another felv support group that might help you as well. The very best to you, Gus and your whole family. You will be in my thoughts and prayers, Nina * * http://www.4life.com/ Message: 1 Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:13:15 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Greetings Again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Greetings Again, I have not been very active here since the passing of my LeLV cat Elric Whiteybone. Since then I have been active in cat rescue. Recently I have lost another cat to this disease, he came to our back porch, and rubbed between my wifes legs. He was more than friendly, but he had a full mucus mustache on his face. He tested positive for LeLV but not FIV, the respiratory infection which was giving him his mucus mustache did not respond to any of the 5+ antibiotics we used on him. We named him Gio short for Giovanni. With in two weeks the disease did it work on his body along with the respiratory infection. On a Saturday we took him to our Rescue Groups Veterinarian. We got there way early and were able to spend over an hour with him there. When the Veterinarian got there, she asked if this was our kitty or a rescue kitty. We responded he was a rescue kitty and that we were staying with him while his time came. So while the Veterinarian gave him the meds to ease his passing, my wife and I were holding and touching him. We both felt him relax then go totally limp. After a bit the Vet listened for his heart, and said he was gone. We spent another 15 minutes with him. Later the Vet came in and asked what we wanted to do with Gio's body. We replied that we already had place dug for him in our back yard by our porch and the catnip bush that grew nearby. She seemed taken a back that we were doing this for a rescue kitty. I believe she got her eyes opened about those that rescue cats/kitties. We took him home and placed him in the spot we prepared for him. We have been putting food out of the strays in our neighborhood, getting them snipped and returned. We recently heard a sound while we were eating breakfast coming from our back patio. It sounded like two male cats squaring off to fight. When we looked it was a single domestic short haired Gray male cat. We named him Gus as in Grumpy Gus. He was at first a bit shy, but later became much easier to handle. We spoke to our rescue group about him, offered to foster him, they said they would pay for his testing and snipping if we fostered him. Well the news from the testing was not good, it was the SNAP test and by that test he was positive for LeLV. We have him in a separate bedroom
Re: Greetings again
Hi Sam, Some of my mail to the list isn't making it. I'm sorry for your loss. Rescues are hard to lose. I don't give my positive any supplements. She is not symptomatic or anything. Is Gus showing any problems? How many cats do you have that you have to separate him? I know others on the list use vitamin c, lysine, transfer factor, and other supplements. Hopefully they will chime in. tonya Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Sam, First of all, bless you and your wife for opening your hearts and home to those in need. I'm so sorry for your loss. Yes, we all get how quickly our hearts can be stolen by the wayward ones that find us just a little too late. I'm so glad you were there for your rescue friend to show him that humans are capable of love and compassion. Now Grumpy Gus has entered your life and given you another opportunity to fight this dreadful disease... I haven't been active on the felv list in a while, but recently there was some trouble with the list serve and it caused my subscription to change from digest to inbox and I peeked in to see how things were going for the good people here. It was in that vein that I opened your post and noticed that no one had responded yet. I went to check on the mail-archive page and not only are there no replies, but your original message isn't there either. It may have something to do with the recent trouble. Anyway, I didn't want you to think that no one cares about what you are going through. I'm sure others will step in to help inform you, (or correct me if my memory is faulty or current thinking has changed). There are many supplements that the folks on this list have found helpful for boosting the immune system of kitties fighting/living with the disease. As you've indicated you are aware that Gus could throw the virus, (retesting is usually done 90-120 days after initial diagnosis). Keeping the environment as stress free as possible, as good a quality diet as you can afford, supplements and lots of encouragement and love have helped my felv and fiv guys live longer and healthier lives. I'm trying to remember all the supps I've used... There's Transfer Factor, CoQ10, L-Lysine, Vitamin supps, (esp C)... I've often wondered if feline interferon might be more effective on cats that have recently contracted the disease and are in the process of fighting it off. Hopefully others will jump in to help you sort it all out. Are you familiar with ELISA, (in-house snap test), vs IFA, (more conclusive test sent out of office)? There is a wealth of information in the lists archives and right about the time I left the list someone started another felv support group that might help you as well. The very best to you, Gus and your whole family. You will be in my thoughts and prayers, Nina Message: 1 Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 20:13:15 -0600 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Greetings Again To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowedGreetings Again,I have not been very active here since the passing of my LeLV cat Elric Whiteybone. Since then I have been active in cat rescue.Recently I have lost another cat to this disease, he came to our back porch, and rubbed between my wifes legs. He was more than friendly, but he had a full mucus mustache on his face.He tested positive for LeLV but not FIV, the respiratory infection which was giving him his mucus mustache did not respond to any of the 5+ antibiotics we used on him. We named him Gio short for Giovanni.With in two weeks the disease did it work on his body along with the respiratory infection. On a Saturday we took him to our Rescue Groups Veterinarian. We got there way early and were able to spend over an hour with him there. When the Veterinarian got there, she asked if this was our kitty or a rescue kitty. We responded he was a rescue kitty and that we were staying with him while his time came.So while the Veterinarian gave him the meds to ease his passing, my wife and I were holding and touching him. We both felt him relax then go totally limp. After a bit the Vet listened for his heart, and said he was gone.We spent another 15 minutes with him. Later the Vet came in and asked what we wanted to do with Gio's body. We replied that we already had place dug for him in our back yard by our porch and the catnip bush that grew nearby. She seemed taken a back that we were doing this for a rescue kitty. I believe she got her eyes opened about those that rescue cats/kitties.We took him home and placed him in the spot we prepared for him.We have been putting food out of the strays in our neighborhood, getting them snipped and returned.We recently heard a sound while we were eating breakfast coming from our back patio. It sounded like two male
