RE: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk
Parafon forte is RX, not OTC. So is soma; from long, long experience I can tell you that parafon is better than soma because it does not cause you to feel drugged or sleepy. And it works!I keep a supply on hand at all times! Some of the newest docs don't prescribe it cause it has been used for so long it's been forgotten. that they only hear about and prescribe the new ones. Granted, there are a lot of newer muscle relaxants out there, but most of them have the tendency to make you feel groggy! Get an RX and try it!! Besides, it is much cheaper than the ones the drug reps try to push!!! Helene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk Thank you to all of you who responded about the herniated disk. I forwarded your messages to my husband at work yesterday. We paid a chiropractor $3500 yesterday for 20 sessions on a spinal decompression machine for lower back pain, a chair for excersizes he can bring home, and a few other items. I hope this helps my husband, because at the rate he's going, he won't be able to continue to work if this doesn't help. I'll let all of you know how it worked. If it doesn't work, hopefully we won't have to worry about pre-existing as he hasn't seen a medical doctor about the problem. I wanted to ask Mary Christine about parafon-forte and soma. Are these both medicines OTC, or does he need a prescrip for them? I have been coaxing my husband each time he has an episode to try to relax and not tense up, but it's hard for him not to. Thank you again for helping us out!!! As always, this site has proved invaluable. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk
Thanks Helene. I will keep this email on hand for when we get to visit a doctor in September. I doubt the chiropractor can prescribe meds, but not sure about that. --- Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parafon forte is RX, not OTC. So is soma; from long, long experience I can tell you that parafon is better than soma because it does not cause you to feel drugged or sleepy. And it works!I keep a supply on hand at all times! Some of the newest docs don't prescribe it cause it has been used for so long it's been forgotten. that they only hear about and prescribe the new ones. Granted, there are a lot of newer muscle relaxants out there, but most of them have the tendency to make you feel groggy! Get an RX and try it!! Besides, it is much cheaper than the ones the drug reps try to push!!! Helene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:37 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk Thank you to all of you who responded about the herniated disk. I forwarded your messages to my husband at work yesterday. We paid a chiropractor $3500 yesterday for 20 sessions on a spinal decompression machine for lower back pain, a chair for excersizes he can bring home, and a few other items. I hope this helps my husband, because at the rate he's going, he won't be able to continue to work if this doesn't help. I'll let all of you know how it worked. If it doesn't work, hopefully we won't have to worry about pre-existing as he hasn't seen a medical doctor about the problem. I wanted to ask Mary Christine about parafon-forte and soma. Are these both medicines OTC, or does he need a prescrip for them? I have been coaxing my husband each time he has an episode to try to relax and not tense up, but it's hard for him not to. Thank you again for helping us out!!! As always, this site has proved invaluable. :) Wendy __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk
Hi Wendy, I'm sorry that your husband is having such debilitating pain! I have some idea of what he's going through dealing with constant back pain and how hard it can be to be still through the worst of it. I have learned if I don't listen to the warning signals, that first "ice pick to the spine", that I will soon find myself flat on my back, incapacitated. A couple of Chiropractors have helped me, PT has helped, stretching and yoga have helped, but I've also learned to listen and not continue to push myself when those painful warnings come. I find taking some ibuprofen, (I don't have insurance right now either and can't get the "good stuff" muscle relaxers), laying flat on my back with a heating pad to relax the muscles around my spine, and gentle stretching exercises will put me back into alignment. Tie that husband to the bed if you have to! I can't imagine he'd resist all that much if you offer to massage his back for him! Prayers that he feels better soon, Nina wendy wrote: <> I have been coaxing my husband each time he has an episode to try to relax and not tense up, but it's hard for him not to.
RE: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk
You said it all and said it so eloquently!!! I also know about the pillows, driving , and all of the little things which are really the big things in dealing with (back) pain..you speak from experience..yes, robaxin is one that is tried and true, also- I had forgotten about that drug.You are right,as I , too, mentioned earlier, the drug reps push the newer and much more expensive drugs.What is funny is that when I spend the night in someone else's home, they say, "Oh, you didn't have to bring your own pillow", and I have to explain that oh yes I did.,, Helene From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCatsSent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 2:34 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated disk it's funny, helene, because while the parafon forte helped with the pain, it was the soma that enabled me to get back to work after my first two surgeries--so much depends on one's own individual response to a medication. soma NEVER made me drowsy or feel drugged; it almost felt as if it energized me by removing the constant strain of trying to deal with the pain. yet i had a housemate who used my soma as her addiction of choice. it may also have to do with what they're learning about people with chronic pain and their reaction to meds in general--that, for example, people with high levels of chronic pain do not respond to opiates the same way people without it do--that things like vicodin and others do NOT tend to create dependence as they do for people without chronic pain. i know for myself, that if i take a vicodin in the morning when i wake up, it enables me to make it through the day without another one yet when i've had to take it for an acute condition, unrelated to the back problems (like, oh, having all my teeth pulled last month, or for a second-degree burn a few months ago), half of one knocked me out! robaxin is another old-school drug that many people had good results with in the past. like soma and parafon forte, they're generics so no one makes a lot of money on them, and thus drug reps don't push them--never forget that docs get almost no pharmaceutical education in school, and way too many never do more than take the word of the drug reps for what they should prescribe. of course it's hard to not tense up when the pain is most intense! i learned to remind myself that the pain is coming from an irritated nerve, and the longer i do things to keep it irritated (ie, walk, move, you know, those sorts of things), the longer it was gonna take for the nerve to have a chance to calm down. you just have to STOP and let it be. something else i finally figured out, after about three years, was how TIRING it is to be in pain--it takes a lot of energy to function with such an insult to your system going on. so getting a medication that works for the individual, and doing gentle stuff like stretching exercises all the time, really makes a difference. other little accommodations: experiment with pillow and supports for the car and for furniture in the house. i can tell within 5 minutes if a chair or a bed or a couch or a car seat is gonna kill me--and i'd rather be on the floor than in one of those that's gonna make things worse. a simple pillow of the right consistency can make a HUGE difference! talk to your chiro about prescribing an obus forme chair support--has an adjustable lumbar pillow, you can carry it from car to chair to friend's houses--i've taken it on camping trips! i'm still using the one i got back in 78. good luck, and keep us informed... MC On 8/1/06, Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Parafon forte isRX, not OTC.So is soma; from long, long experience I cantell you that parafon is better than soma because it does not cause you to feel drugged or sleepy. And it works!I keep a supply on hand at all times!Some of the newest docs don't prescribe it cause it has been used for solong it's been forgotten. that they only hear about and prescribe the new ones.Granted, there are a lot of newer muscle relaxants out there, butmost of them have the tendency to make you feel groggy! Get an RX and tryit!!Besides, it is much cheaper than the ones the drug reps try to push!!! Helene-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of wendySent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 12:37 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: To all who replied Re: OT: Need advice on herniated diskThank you to all of you who responded about the herniated disk.I forwardedyour messages to my husband at work yesterday.We paid a chiropractor $3500yesterday for 20 sessions on a spinal decompression machine for lower back pain, a chair for excersizes he can bring home, and a few other items.I hope this helps my husband, because at the rate he's going, he wo
