Re: To Kelly L: Re: OT Big problem, help
At 09:35 AM 11/27/2006, you wrote: I totally agree, as I go there often and have been a member for 8 years, Actually I am attending the weeks course on starting a shelter in April, but I see so many local groups really struggling, and they are my back yard, and they are desperate for help. We almost pruchased 2 acres in the Vermillion cliffs area, it is outside the city of Kanab about 2 miles east, Many employees live there, I have also volunteered at their adoptions in Burbank,It is a place to catch your breath. Kelly l Best Friends does support local groups also with the funds they receive. Last year their total revenue was a little over $30 million. They spent almost $10 million on sanctuary maintenance, but $5 million on programs and outreach and a little over $2.5 million on rescue. They have partner groups in many cities that they support, one of which came out to tnr (?) a feral colony my elderly grandmother was feeding in North Carolina after I called Best Friends for help a few years ago. I think Best Friends is a fabulous organization, one worth donating to. :) Wendy --- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 08:08 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote: > > > No two rescues operate alike. I have been to Kanab > many times to > volunteer and they are wonderful, but even with them > I disagree on > several policies regarding adoptions, the thing I > really appreciate > about them is that they do not speak negatively > about any rescue > group, and that includes many kill shelters, > We all agree on the basics, Spay and neuter, and TNR > (although Peta > is against TNR,,or at least they were) > My criteria may be a bit different from yours,. > there is a local > rescue here that does not ask for an adoption fee > which frightens me > and she also does dogs and cats and recently lost a > cat to a dog, > Also very frightening, but she works her butt off > finding homes for > so very many in need , > We need to support each other and educate, If there > is a dangerous > overcrowding situation that should be addressed and > perhaps helped, > Animal people feel a great deal of passion so logic > is frequently non > existent, > We need to support each other,,We need to support > each other,,,Best > Friends has more money than you can imagine, I give > to local groups > who really need it, > Kelly > www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com > > > > > >thank you for this. this group i mentioned is the > only rescue > >operation i've been acquainted with - so from my > view i did not know > >if these were idiosyncrasies of this group or a > common practice. i > >don't mean to run verbally run them down - i've > just being going > >through some disillusionment with their practices. > i truly believe > >their hearts are in the right place - i just think > they need a good > >common sense model of best practices. > > > >elizabeth > >*Save the earth. It's the only planet with > chocolate.* > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Sent: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 9:08 AM > >Subject: Re: OT Big problem, help > > > > > > > >On 11/24/06, ETrent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >I know it isn't a perfect world...and I totally > support the ideal of > >rescuing kitties and making their lives better...I > just wish that > >there was some kind of guideline that ensured the > welfare of the > >rescued kitties. My whole experience has left me > very resentful of > >cat rescues...and I am hoping to get some feedback > from those of you > >who are involved in this sort of thing. I realize > that I am myopic > >and perhaps you can help me see more clearly. > > > > > > > > > > > >This certainly sounds bad. There is a rescue > around here that I > >think of as...well, questionable. They take dogs > out of the pound > >every day and take them around and display them in > front of local > >PetSmarts (which in and of itself is a pretty good > idea, I > >think). The ones who aren't adopted go back to the > pound at > >night:(. Unfortunately several of these dogs have > been adopted out > >and come down with distemper and parvo. This made > the local news > >and the owner of this group stated that people were > taking a risk if > >they adopted and they should be aware of that. I > wasn't thrilled > >with that statement either. > > > >BUT this group has done a lot of good, even if I am > not thrilled > >with their methods. Lots of dogs have found > forever homes that > >would otherwise have been killed. Same with the > group I am now > >having problems with. They've rehomed 5,000 cats. > > > >I'm just trying to make it my policy to not > verbally run down other > >rescue groups or expend my efforts trying to get > them shut > >down. I'm in this to help cats, not get involved > in politics. I > >have to remind myself of that just about daily. My > model is Best > >Friends in Kaneb, Utah, and they didn't get to > where they are today > >by spending all their time trash tal
To Kelly L: Re: OT Big problem, help
Best Friends does support local groups also with the funds they receive. Last year their total revenue was a little over $30 million. They spent almost $10 million on sanctuary maintenance, but $5 million on programs and outreach and a little over $2.5 million on rescue. They have partner groups in many cities that they support, one of which came out to tnr (?) a feral colony my elderly grandmother was feeding in North Carolina after I called Best Friends for help a few years ago. I think Best Friends is a fabulous organization, one worth donating to. :) Wendy --- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 08:08 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote: > > > No two rescues operate alike. I have been to Kanab > many times to > volunteer and they are wonderful, but even with them > I disagree on > several policies regarding adoptions, the thing I > really appreciate > about them is that they do not speak negatively > about any rescue > group, and that includes many kill shelters, > We all agree on the basics, Spay and neuter, and TNR > (although Peta > is against TNR,,or at least they were) > My criteria may be a bit different from yours,. > there is a local > rescue here that does not ask for an adoption fee > which frightens me > and she also does dogs and cats and recently lost a > cat to a dog, > Also very frightening, but she works her butt off > finding homes for > so very many in need , > We need to support each other and educate, If there > is a dangerous > overcrowding situation that should be addressed and > perhaps helped, > Animal people feel a great deal of passion so logic > is frequently non > existent, > We need to support each other,,We need to support > each other,,,Best > Friends has more money than you can imagine, I give > to local groups > who really need it, > Kelly > www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com > > > > > >thank you for this. this group i mentioned is the > only rescue > >operation i've been acquainted with - so from my > view i did not know > >if these were idiosyncrasies of this group or a > common practice. i > >don't mean to run verbally run them down - i've > just being going > >through some disillusionment with their practices. > i truly believe > >their hearts are in the right place - i just think > they need a good > >common sense model of best practices. > > > >elizabeth > >*Save the earth. It's the only planet with > chocolate.* > > > > > >-Original Message- > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >Sent: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 9:08 AM > >Subject: Re: OT Big problem, help > > > > > > > >On 11/24/06, ETrent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >I know it isn't a perfect world...and I totally > support the ideal of > >rescuing kitties and making their lives better...I > just wish that > >there was some kind of guideline that ensured the > welfare of the > >rescued kitties. My whole experience has left me > very resentful of > >cat rescues...and I am hoping to get some feedback > from those of you > >who are involved in this sort of thing. I realize > that I am myopic > >and perhaps you can help me see more clearly. > > > > > > > > > > > >This certainly sounds bad. There is a rescue > around here that I > >think of as...well, questionable. They take dogs > out of the pound > >every day and take them around and display them in > front of local > >PetSmarts (which in and of itself is a pretty good > idea, I > >think). The ones who aren't adopted go back to the > pound at > >night:(. Unfortunately several of these dogs have > been adopted out > >and come down with distemper and parvo. This made > the local news > >and the owner of this group stated that people were > taking a risk if > >they adopted and they should be aware of that. I > wasn't thrilled > >with that statement either. > > > >BUT this group has done a lot of good, even if I am > not thrilled > >with their methods. Lots of dogs have found > forever homes that > >would otherwise have been killed. Same with the > group I am now > >having problems with. They've rehomed 5,000 cats. > > > >I'm just trying to make it my policy to not > verbally run down other > >rescue groups or expend my efforts trying to get > them shut > >down. I'm in this to help cats, not get involved > in politics. I > >have to remind myself of that just about daily. My > model is Best > >Friends in Kaneb, Utah, and they didn't get to > where they are today > >by spending all their time trash talking other > rescues (not that I > >am suggesting you are trash talking, this is just > something I see on > >a daily basis from people involved in rescue - > they'll tell people > >"Oh, don't adopt a cat from x rescue..they are a > "bad rescue"). > > > >Anyway, if you do not support this group's > practices, don't give > >them any money. Don't let them guilt you into > giving them money > >either. If you want to keep your money local, I > would find another > >rescue group.