Re: To Kelly L: Re: OT Big problem, help

2006-11-27 Thread Kelly L

At 09:35 AM 11/27/2006, you wrote:


I totally agree, as I go there often and have been a member for 8 
years, Actually I am attending the weeks course on starting a shelter 
in April, but I see so many local groups really struggling, and they 
are my back yard, and they are desperate for help. We almost 
pruchased 2 acres in the Vermillion cliffs area, it is outside the 
city of Kanab about 2 miles east, Many employees live there,
I have also volunteered at their adoptions in Burbank,It is a place 
to catch your breath.


Kelly l


Best Friends does support local groups also with the
funds they receive.  Last year their total revenue was
a little over $30 million.  They spent almost $10
million on sanctuary maintenance, but $5 million on
programs and outreach and a little over $2.5 million
on rescue.  They have partner groups in many cities
that they support, one of which came out to tnr (?) a
feral colony my elderly grandmother was feeding in
North Carolina after I called Best Friends for help a
few years ago.  I think Best Friends is a fabulous
organization, one worth donating to.

:)
Wendy

--- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 08:08 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote:
>
>
> No two rescues operate alike. I have been to Kanab
> many times to
> volunteer and they are wonderful, but even with them
> I disagree on
> several policies regarding adoptions, the thing I
> really appreciate
> about them is that they do not speak negatively
> about any rescue
> group, and that includes many kill shelters,
> We all agree on the basics, Spay and neuter, and TNR
> (although Peta
> is against TNR,,or at least they were)
> My criteria may be a bit different from yours,.
> there is a local
> rescue here that does not ask for an adoption fee
> which frightens me
> and she also does dogs and cats and recently lost a
> cat to a dog,
> Also very frightening, but she works her butt off
> finding homes for
> so very many in need ,
> We need to support each other and educate, If there
> is a dangerous
> overcrowding situation that should be addressed and
> perhaps helped,
> Animal people feel a great deal of passion so logic
> is frequently non
> existent,
> We need to support each other,,We need to support
> each other,,,Best
> Friends has more money than you can imagine, I give
> to local groups
> who really need it,
> Kelly
> www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
>
>
>
>
> >thank you for this.  this group i mentioned is the
> only rescue
> >operation i've been acquainted with - so from my
> view i did not know
> >if these were idiosyncrasies of this group or a
> common practice.  i
> >don't mean to run verbally run them down - i've
> just being going
> >through some disillusionment with their practices.
> i truly believe
> >their hearts are in the right place - i just think
> they need a good
> >common sense model of best practices.
> >
> >elizabeth
> >*Save the earth. It's the only planet with
> chocolate.*
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Sent: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 9:08 AM
> >Subject: Re: OT Big problem, help
> >
> >
> >
> >On 11/24/06, ETrent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I know it isn't a perfect world...and I totally
> support the ideal of
> >rescuing kitties and making their lives better...I
> just wish that
> >there was some kind of guideline that ensured the
> welfare of the
> >rescued kitties.  My whole experience has left me
> very resentful of
> >cat rescues...and I am hoping to get some feedback
> from those of you
> >who are involved in this sort of thing.  I realize
> that I am myopic
> >and perhaps you can help me see more clearly.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >This certainly sounds bad.  There is a rescue
> around here that I
> >think of as...well, questionable.  They take dogs
> out of the pound
> >every day and take them around and display them in
> front of local
> >PetSmarts (which in and of itself is a pretty good
> idea, I
> >think).  The ones who aren't adopted go back to the
> pound at
> >night:(.  Unfortunately several of these dogs have
> been adopted out
> >and come down with distemper and parvo.  This made
> the local news
> >and the owner of this group stated that people were
> taking a risk if
> >they adopted and they should be aware of that.  I
> wasn't thrilled
> >with that statement either.
> >
> >BUT this group has done a lot of good, even if I am
> not thrilled
> >with their methods.  Lots of dogs have found
> forever homes that
> >would otherwise have been killed.  Same with the
> group I am now
> >having problems with.  They've rehomed 5,000 cats.
> >
> >I'm just trying to make it my policy to not
> verbally run down other
> >rescue groups or expend my efforts trying to get
> them shut
> >down.  I'm in this to help cats, not get involved
> in politics.  I
> >have to remind myself of that just about daily.  My
> model is Best
> >Friends in Kaneb, Utah, and they didn't get to
> where they are today
> >by spending all their time trash tal

To Kelly L: Re: OT Big problem, help

2006-11-27 Thread wendy
Best Friends does support local groups also with the
funds they receive.  Last year their total revenue was
a little over $30 million.  They spent almost $10
million on sanctuary maintenance, but $5 million on
programs and outreach and a little over $2.5 million
on rescue.  They have partner groups in many cities
that they support, one of which came out to tnr (?) a
feral colony my elderly grandmother was feeding in
North Carolina after I called Best Friends for help a
few years ago.  I think Best Friends is a fabulous
organization, one worth donating to. 

:)
Wendy

--- Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> At 08:08 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote:
> 
> 
> No two rescues operate alike. I have been to Kanab
> many times to 
> volunteer and they are wonderful, but even with them
> I disagree on 
> several policies regarding adoptions, the thing I
> really appreciate 
> about them is that they do not speak negatively
> about any rescue 
> group, and that includes many kill shelters,
> We all agree on the basics, Spay and neuter, and TNR
> (although Peta 
> is against TNR,,or at least they were)
> My criteria may be a bit different from yours,.
> there is a local 
> rescue here that does not ask for an adoption fee
> which frightens me 
> and she also does dogs and cats and recently lost a
> cat to a dog, 
> Also very frightening, but she works her butt off
> finding homes for 
> so very many in need ,
> We need to support each other and educate, If there
> is a dangerous 
> overcrowding situation that should be addressed and
> perhaps helped, 
> Animal people feel a great deal of passion so logic
> is frequently non 
> existent,
> We need to support each other,,We need to support
> each other,,,Best 
> Friends has more money than you can imagine, I give
> to local groups 
> who really need it,
> Kelly
> www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
> 
> 
> 
> 
> >thank you for this.  this group i mentioned is the
> only rescue 
> >operation i've been acquainted with - so from my
> view i did not know 
> >if these were idiosyncrasies of this group or a
> common practice.  i 
> >don't mean to run verbally run them down - i've
> just being going 
> >through some disillusionment with their practices. 
> i truly believe 
> >their hearts are in the right place - i just think
> they need a good 
> >common sense model of best practices.
> >
> >elizabeth
> >*Save the earth. It's the only planet with
> chocolate.*
> >
> >
> >-Original Message-
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >Sent: Sun, 26 Nov 2006 9:08 AM
> >Subject: Re: OT Big problem, help
> >
> >
> >
> >On 11/24/06, ETrent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >I know it isn't a perfect world...and I totally
> support the ideal of 
> >rescuing kitties and making their lives better...I
> just wish that 
> >there was some kind of guideline that ensured the
> welfare of the 
> >rescued kitties.  My whole experience has left me
> very resentful of 
> >cat rescues...and I am hoping to get some feedback
> from those of you 
> >who are involved in this sort of thing.  I realize
> that I am myopic 
> >and perhaps you can help me see more clearly.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >This certainly sounds bad.  There is a rescue
> around here that I 
> >think of as...well, questionable.  They take dogs
> out of the pound 
> >every day and take them around and display them in
> front of local 
> >PetSmarts (which in and of itself is a pretty good
> idea, I 
> >think).  The ones who aren't adopted go back to the
> pound at 
> >night:(.  Unfortunately several of these dogs have
> been adopted out 
> >and come down with distemper and parvo.  This made
> the local news 
> >and the owner of this group stated that people were
> taking a risk if 
> >they adopted and they should be aware of that.  I
> wasn't thrilled 
> >with that statement either.
> >
> >BUT this group has done a lot of good, even if I am
> not thrilled 
> >with their methods.  Lots of dogs have found
> forever homes that 
> >would otherwise have been killed.  Same with the
> group I am now 
> >having problems with.  They've rehomed 5,000 cats.
> >
> >I'm just trying to make it my policy to not
> verbally run down other 
> >rescue groups or expend my efforts trying to get
> them shut 
> >down.  I'm in this to help cats, not get involved
> in politics.  I 
> >have to remind myself of that just about daily.  My
> model is Best 
> >Friends in Kaneb, Utah, and they didn't get to
> where they are today 
> >by spending all their time trash talking other
> rescues (not that I 
> >am suggesting you are trash talking, this is just
> something I see on 
> >a daily basis from people involved in rescue -
> they'll tell people 
> >"Oh, don't adopt a cat from x rescue..they are a
> "bad rescue").
> >
> >Anyway, if you do not support this group's
> practices, don't give 
> >them any money.   Don't let them guilt you into
> giving them money 
> >either.  If you want to keep your money local, I
> would find another 
> >rescue group.