RE: To Phaewryn: Re: OT - animal communication - pleasejustdeletewithout reading.
Thanks! There are already plans to lay the Feliway on, but I don't think anyone is allowed to give him anything by mouth before the trip -- certainly not mood meds and possibly not even RR. I'll have his mommy double-check on that, though. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: To Phaewryn: Re: OT - animal communication - pleasejustdeletewithout reading. Regarding Spike: Please spray his blankets/carrier (whatever) with Feliway and put Rescue Remedy in his mouth. It really should help. RR is used in the dog show circuit a lot. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:48 PM Subject: RE: To Phaewryn: Re: OT - animal communication - please justdeletewithout reading. Wendy, thank you so much for your reasoned and graceful response. Do I believe in animal communicators? I'm not sure. Do I think that there are people who can communicate with animals on a deeper level? Yes. Do I believe it's something that might be worth a try under some circumstances? Absolutely. It's not like the AC has to put electrodes in the animal's brain, or in some cases even lay hands on them or be anywhere near them. What's the harm? I realize there's a huge potential for scam here, but I also know that many ACs don't charge for their services. When I was volunteering at a Katrina pets shelter, an AC was called in and her impressions posted on the animals' cages. Some of them were general enough to be generic -- doesn't understand why she's locked up, wants to go home -- but some were heartbreakingly specific -- remembers being hurt, can't remember ever playing -- and these were enough to make me believe that there *can* be something to it. Also, the wonderful listmommy of the ferals list believes absolutely that we can communicate, and always says things like tell her her story, she loves to hear it because even if there's a language barrier, our tone and body language are as plain for our animals to read as theirs is for us to read. One of my best friends is in England now, and her 11-year-old stripey boy, Spike, will be joining her sometime next month. I'm helping his aunt he's been staying with get him into the carrier for his last vet visit just before he goes, and you can bet I will be talking to him about how he might have a scary day on the plane (it's an animal transport flight, he will be in the main cabin with other pets) but when it's over he'll be with his mom again. And on the day he flies, will I be vibing with all my might that he gets there okay and isn't too scared? God, yes. Since joining various cat groups, I've sort of come to believe in vibes -- whether they're called vibes, or Kitty Cones of Power, or prayer, or meditation. Again, I'm not remotely sure they work, but there's more to us than science knows about yet, our brains have powers we can't even begin to tap, and if shooting a few seconds of positive energy, or visualizing a light around a sick kitty, or whatever, might possibly make a difference, why wouldn't I just do it. Hell, I even vibe at roadkill, just telling them I'm sorry they died because of one of us. Do I believe that there's REALLY a place called the Rainbow Bridge where pets go to wait for us? I really want to. It's a sweet, tangible and comforting image, and if there's a Heaven, how could it be as great as everybody says if there aren't joyous reunions with everybody we've loved? Rainbow Bridge is as plausible as a lot of other stuff we are told but have no proof of. And again, what's the harm? Phaewryn, I'm sorry you're in such a bad place right now that you feel the need to be hurtful. You are free not to believe in any of this, and even to think that those of us who do or who are at least open to it are fools, but nobody here is using vibes, AC, meditations or the like instead of sound veterinary care. Sometimes somekitty just needs that little extra thing to turn a corner, or to be found when lost, or to be less stressed, and I figure there is no harm in seeking help from an undefinable power, be it God or Gaia or the universe or the human mind's will. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 2:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: To Phaewryn: Re: OT - animal communication - please just deletewithout reading. Phaewryn
Re: To Phaewryn: Re: OT - animal communication -pleasejustdeletewithout reading.
Then she may want to check on the spray RR. I understand them not wanting anything in his stomach but RR drops??? However, rules are rules. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:04 PM Subject: RE: To Phaewryn: Re: OT - animal communication -pleasejustdeletewithout reading. Thanks! There are already plans to lay the Feliway on, but I don't think anyone is allowed to give him anything by mouth before the trip -- certainly not mood meds and possibly not even RR. I'll have his mommy double-check on that, though. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: To Phaewryn: Re: OT - animal communication - pleasejustdeletewithout reading. Regarding Spike: Please spray his blankets/carrier (whatever) with Feliway and put Rescue Remedy in his mouth. It really should help. RR is used in the dog show circuit a lot. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:48 PM Subject: RE: To Phaewryn: Re: OT - animal communication - please justdeletewithout reading. Wendy, thank you so much for your reasoned and graceful response. Do I believe in animal communicators? I'm not sure. Do I think that there are people who can communicate with animals on a deeper level? Yes. Do I believe it's something that might be worth a try under some circumstances? Absolutely. It's not like the AC has to put electrodes in the animal's brain, or in some cases even lay hands on them or be anywhere near them. What's the harm? I realize there's a huge potential for scam here, but I also know that many ACs don't charge for their services. When I was volunteering at a Katrina pets shelter, an AC was called in and her impressions posted on the animals' cages. Some of them were general enough to be generic -- doesn't understand why she's locked up, wants to go home -- but some were heartbreakingly specific -- remembers being hurt, can't remember ever playing -- and these were enough to make me believe that there *can* be something to it. Also, the wonderful listmommy of the ferals list believes absolutely that we can communicate, and always says things like tell her her story, she loves to hear it because even if there's a language barrier, our tone and body language are as plain for our animals to read as theirs is for us to read. One of my best friends is in England now, and her 11-year-old stripey boy, Spike, will be joining her sometime next month. I'm helping his aunt he's been staying with get him into the carrier for his last vet visit just before he goes, and you can bet I will be talking to him about how he might have a scary day on the plane (it's an animal transport flight, he will be in the main cabin with other pets) but when it's over he'll be with his mom again. And on the day he flies, will I be vibing with all my might that he gets there okay and isn't too scared? God, yes. Since joining various cat groups, I've sort of come to believe in vibes -- whether they're called vibes, or Kitty Cones of Power, or prayer, or meditation. Again, I'm not remotely sure they work, but there's more to us than science knows about yet, our brains have powers we can't even begin to tap, and if shooting a few seconds of positive energy, or visualizing a light around a sick kitty, or whatever, might possibly make a difference, why wouldn't I just do it. Hell, I even vibe at roadkill, just telling them I'm sorry they died because of one of us. Do I believe that there's REALLY a place called the Rainbow Bridge where pets go to wait for us? I really want to. It's a sweet, tangible and comforting image, and if there's a Heaven, how could it be as great as everybody says if there aren't joyous reunions with everybody we've loved? Rainbow Bridge is as plausible as a lot of other stuff we are told but have no proof of. And again, what's the harm? Phaewryn, I'm sorry you're in such a bad place right now that you feel the need
RE: To Phaewryn: Re: OT - animal communication-pleasejustdeletewithout reading.
Yes, and the rules are so very picky, we wouldn't want to do anything to jeopardize his going on schedule. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: To Phaewryn: Re: OT - animal communication-pleasejustdeletewithout reading. Then she may want to check on the spray RR. I understand them not wanting anything in his stomach but RR drops??? However, rules are rules. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 4:04 PM Subject: RE: To Phaewryn: Re: OT - animal communication -pleasejustdeletewithout reading. Thanks! There are already plans to lay the Feliway on, but I don't think anyone is allowed to give him anything by mouth before the trip -- certainly not mood meds and possibly not even RR. I'll have his mommy double-check on that, though. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:58 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: To Phaewryn: Re: OT - animal communication - pleasejustdeletewithout reading. Regarding Spike: Please spray his blankets/carrier (whatever) with Feliway and put Rescue Remedy in his mouth. It really should help. RR is used in the dog show circuit a lot. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Rosenfeldt, Diane [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 11, 2007 3:48 PM Subject: RE: To Phaewryn: Re: OT - animal communication - please justdeletewithout reading. Wendy, thank you so much for your reasoned and graceful response. Do I believe in animal communicators? I'm not sure. Do I think that there are people who can communicate with animals on a deeper level? Yes. Do I believe it's something that might be worth a try under some circumstances? Absolutely. It's not like the AC has to put electrodes in the animal's brain, or in some cases even lay hands on them or be anywhere near them. What's the harm? I realize there's a huge potential for scam here, but I also know that many ACs don't charge for their services. When I was volunteering at a Katrina pets shelter, an AC was called in and her impressions posted on the animals' cages. Some of them were general enough to be generic -- doesn't understand why she's locked up, wants to go home -- but some were heartbreakingly specific -- remembers being hurt, can't remember ever playing -- and these were enough to make me believe that there *can* be something to it. Also, the wonderful listmommy of the ferals list believes absolutely that we can communicate, and always says things like tell her her story, she loves to hear it because even if there's a language barrier, our tone and body language are as plain for our animals to read as theirs is for us to read. One of my best friends is in England now, and her 11-year-old stripey boy, Spike, will be joining her sometime next month. I'm helping his aunt he's been staying with get him into the carrier for his last vet visit just before he goes, and you can bet I will be talking to him about how he might have a scary day on the plane (it's an animal transport flight, he will be in the main cabin with other pets) but when it's over he'll be with his mom again. And on the day he flies, will I be vibing with all my might that he gets there okay and isn't too scared? God, yes. Since joining various cat groups, I've sort of come to believe in vibes -- whether they're called vibes, or Kitty Cones of Power, or prayer, or meditation. Again, I'm not remotely sure they work, but there's more to us than science knows about yet, our brains have powers we can't even begin to tap, and if shooting a few seconds of positive energy, or visualizing a light around a sick kitty, or whatever, might possibly make a difference, why wouldn't I just do it. Hell, I even vibe at roadkill, just telling them I'm sorry they died because of one of us. Do I believe that there's REALLY a place called the Rainbow Bridge where pets go to wait for us? I really want to. It's
