[Felvtalk] Vaccines, including "Why do we vaccinate our cats and dogs?"
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I would vaccinate my fiv's. Unless they are sick, I don't think it will hurt them. Just my opinion from dealing with both for over 15 years. tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have two FIV+ cats in our household, one of whom has previously been vaccinated against FeLV. The other is a recent foster care arrival. We are considering bringing in a cat who MAY have been exposed to FeLV. She has tested negative on an Elisa but exposure is recent enough, and Elisa inaccurate enough, that I'd rather be safe and vaccinate the current foster cat (already FIV+) before she arrives. (The rest of the household is already vaccinated.) Thoughts, recommendations? Lynette =^..^= "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by the way in which its animals are treated." --Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948
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Here's some more vaccination info, from Best Friends. http://network.bestfriends.org/Blogs/Detail.aspx?b=59 On 3/16/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: There is an interesting webinar on this subject at https://petsmartcharities.webex.com/mw0304l/mywebex/default.do?siteurl=petsmartcharities On 3/15/07, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > distemper is a very nasty death, tho.. that's one i just won't mess > with and while a lot of the deaths were kittens, there were a lot of > adults who went too. but it's very different when you're not talking a > multi-cat environment, or taking in rescues, or fosters.. > > On 3/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I'm sure it varies vaccine to vaccine. Regardless... I wont vaccinate > > except for one time (except rabies, where I have some legal consequences > > involved if I don't). That being said, I quarantine any new cats that come > > in, just in case. The thing is, some of the things we vaccinate for are not > > typically fatal illnesses for healthy adult cats anyways, so it's kinda like > > getting the flu shot if you're a human, yes, it will keep you from getting > > sock, but unless you're old, ill, or weak in some way, it generally wont > > kill you even if you DO get it. I don't get flu shots for myself either, for > > the record... and when I went to college, I refused my hepatitis and > > whatever else they give you at that age (some childhood vaccine booster), > > and got a titer pulled on myself, and it proved sufficient immunity to allow > > myself to be admitted. > > > > Phaewryn > > > > http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html > > Special Needs Cat Resources > > > > > > -- > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > > AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats > MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ICQ: 289856892 > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: vaccinate FIV+ for FeLV?
There is an interesting webinar on this subject at https://petsmartcharities.webex.com/mw0304l/mywebex/default.do?siteurl=petsmartcharities On 3/15/07, TenHouseCats <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: distemper is a very nasty death, tho.. that's one i just won't mess with and while a lot of the deaths were kittens, there were a lot of adults who went too. but it's very different when you're not talking a multi-cat environment, or taking in rescues, or fosters.. On 3/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I'm sure it varies vaccine to vaccine. Regardless... I wont vaccinate > except for one time (except rabies, where I have some legal consequences > involved if I don't). That being said, I quarantine any new cats that come > in, just in case. The thing is, some of the things we vaccinate for are not > typically fatal illnesses for healthy adult cats anyways, so it's kinda like > getting the flu shot if you're a human, yes, it will keep you from getting > sock, but unless you're old, ill, or weak in some way, it generally wont > kill you even if you DO get it. I don't get flu shots for myself either, for > the record... and when I went to college, I refused my hepatitis and > whatever else they give you at that age (some childhood vaccine booster), > and got a titer pulled on myself, and it proved sufficient immunity to allow > myself to be admitted. > > Phaewryn > > http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html > Special Needs Cat Resources > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20
Re: vaccinate FIV+ for FeLV?
distemper is a very nasty death, tho.. that's one i just won't mess with and while a lot of the deaths were kittens, there were a lot of adults who went too. but it's very different when you're not talking a multi-cat environment, or taking in rescues, or fosters.. On 3/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I'm sure it varies vaccine to vaccine. Regardless... I wont vaccinate except for one time (except rabies, where I have some legal consequences involved if I don't). That being said, I quarantine any new cats that come in, just in case. The thing is, some of the things we vaccinate for are not typically fatal illnesses for healthy adult cats anyways, so it's kinda like getting the flu shot if you're a human, yes, it will keep you from getting sock, but unless you're old, ill, or weak in some way, it generally wont kill you even if you DO get it. I don't get flu shots for myself either, for the record... and when I went to college, I refused my hepatitis and whatever else they give you at that age (some childhood vaccine booster), and got a titer pulled on myself, and it proved sufficient immunity to allow myself to be admitted. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: vaccinate FIV+ for FeLV?
I'm sure it varies vaccine to vaccine. Regardless... I wont vaccinate except for one time (except rabies, where I have some legal consequences involved if I don't). That being said, I quarantine any new cats that come in, just in case. The thing is, some of the things we vaccinate for are not typically fatal illnesses for healthy adult cats anyways, so it's kinda like getting the flu shot if you're a human, yes, it will keep you from getting sock, but unless you're old, ill, or weak in some way, it generally wont kill you even if you DO get it. I don't get flu shots for myself either, for the record... and when I went to college, I refused my hepatitis and whatever else they give you at that age (some childhood vaccine booster), and got a titer pulled on myself, and it proved sufficient immunity to allow myself to be admitted. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: vaccinate FIV+ for FeLV?
i'm certainly not sold on the need for a full series of everything, but i DO know that a single adult dose didn't protect against distemper, but that's a particularly nasty little buggie--i know of other rescues that've had that experience with it, too. as for other things, i have little doubt that at some point the immunity-for-life thing--which does, basically, only make sense--will proof true in most cases. but remember who funds research, after all. seems that dog breeders are doing a whole lot more titre-testing than cat people are, from what i was hearing during chat week On 3/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Any shot given after the first shot is a booster shot, as it "boosts" the first one. There are studies that show that single doses of vaccines are effective, though not all are CAT studies, but the immune system works much the same in all mammals: http://www.heska.com/ultranasal/pr_info.asp (proven effective single dose intranasal FVRCP vaccine - cats) http://www.news-medical.net/?id=12817 (proven effective single dose Typhoid vaccine - humans) http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/jun2005/niaid-01a.htm (proven effective single dose shingle vaccine - humans) http://www.enn.com/wild.html?id=1226&ref=rss (proven effective single dose bird flu vaccine - humans) http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020183 (proven effective single dose Lassa vaccine - monkey test subjects in prehuman trials) http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=14084459 (proven effective single dose encephalitis vaccine - humans. Of particular interest, this was done side by side with a two dose series study, and the effectivness was less then 1% more with two doses... hardly worth the side effects and risks!) http://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/abs/10.2460/ajvr.2004.65.1459?journalCode=ajvr (proven effective single dose West Nile vaccine - horses) http://www.spiritessence.com/index.php?action=library&act=show&item=vaccination says: "Dr. Ronald Schultz at the University of Wisconsin is the premier vaccine researcher in the country. He says, that 'canine distemper and adenovirus-2 vaccines both provide good lifelong immunity. These need not be given annually.' He says the same about the feline distemper (panleukopenia) vaccine. He believes that a single dose of modified live vaccine given at 10-14 weeks of age is protective for life. Both canine and feline distemper vaccines have been shown to induce immunity for 5-7 years or more. Moreover, all of these are diseases of young animals; older animals are naturally more resistant. Once vaccinated, adult animals are typically fully immune. " http://critteradvocacy.org/Vaccination%20Concerns.htm says: "The AVMA Council on Biologic and Therapeutic Agents (COBTA) presented their consensus at the July, 2000 137th Annual AVMA Convention. They focused on the following points: When an annual booster vaccination with a modified live virus vaccine ( i.e. Distemper , Parvovirus or Fe Distemper) is given to a previously vaccinated adult animal - no added protection is provided. Modified live virus vaccines depend on the replication of the virus for a response. Antibodies from previous vaccines do not allow the new virus to replicate. Antibody titers are not boosted significantly, memory cell populations are not expanded. No additional protection is provided. Vaccine Manufacturers label claims should be backed by scientific data. There is no scientific data to support label directions for re-administration of MLV vaccines annually." I did email Dr. Bob and ask if he knew of any FELINE specific studies done to show single-dose immunity in cats. I will let you know if he responds with anything helpful. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: vaccinate FIV+ for FeLV?
Any shot given after the first shot is a booster shot, as it "boosts" the first one. There are studies that show that single doses of vaccines are effective, though not all are CAT studies, but the immune system works much the same in all mammals: http://www.heska.com/ultranasal/pr_info.asp (proven effective single dose intranasal FVRCP vaccine - cats) http://www.news-medical.net/?id=12817 (proven effective single dose Typhoid vaccine - humans) http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/jun2005/niaid-01a.htm (proven effective single dose shingle vaccine - humans) http://www.enn.com/wild.html?id=1226&ref=rss (proven effective single dose bird flu vaccine - humans) http://medicine.plosjournals.org/perlserv/?request=get-document&doi=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020183 (proven effective single dose Lassa vaccine - monkey test subjects in prehuman trials) http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=14084459 (proven effective single dose encephalitis vaccine - humans. Of particular interest, this was done side by side with a two dose series study, and the effectivness was less then 1% more with two doses... hardly worth the side effects and risks!) http://avmajournals.avma.org/doi/abs/10.2460/ajvr.2004.65.1459?journalCode=ajvr (proven effective single dose West Nile vaccine - horses) http://www.spiritessence.com/index.php?action=library&act=show&item=vaccination says: "Dr. Ronald Schultz at the University of Wisconsin is the premier vaccine researcher in the country. He says, that 'canine distemper and adenovirus-2 vaccines both provide good lifelong immunity. These need not be given annually.' He says the same about the feline distemper (panleukopenia) vaccine. He believes that a single dose of modified live vaccine given at 10-14 weeks of age is protective for life. Both canine and feline distemper vaccines have been shown to induce immunity for 5-7 years or more. Moreover, all of these are diseases of young animals; older animals are naturally more resistant. Once vaccinated, adult animals are typically fully immune. " http://critteradvocacy.org/Vaccination%20Concerns.htm says: "The AVMA Council on Biologic and Therapeutic Agents (COBTA) presented their consensus at the July, 2000 137th Annual AVMA Convention. They focused on the following points: When an annual booster vaccination with a modified live virus vaccine (i.e. Distemper , Parvovirus or Fe Distemper) is given to a previously vaccinated adult animal - no added protection is provided. Modified live virus vaccines depend on the replication of the virus for a response. Antibodies from previous vaccines do not allow the new virus to replicate. Antibody titers are not boosted significantly, memory cell populations are not expanded. No additional protection is provided. Vaccine Manufacturers label claims should be backed by scientific data. There is no scientific data to support label directions for re-administration of MLV vaccines annually." I did email Dr. Bob and ask if he knew of any FELINE specific studies done to show single-dose immunity in cats. I will let you know if he responds with anything helpful. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: vaccinate FIV+ for FeLV?
we're not talking about BOOSTERS, but the initial series of innoculations. i know that when distemper was brought into the sanctuary, adult cats who had only had one shot as an adult (as we didn't know, of course, if they'd ever had their full series of kitten shots) DIED many rescues now, unless they have records showing the full kitten series, make sure that adult cats receive it boosters are another things altogether (of course, i'm just potentially making trouble here, which you and i exist to do in each other's life--i'm ASSUMING that the purevaxx is like the schering-plough and others that require two shots for full imunity) On 3/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I personally don't believe in boosters. There's been no research done to show they are required, as far as I am aware of. There have been studies done that show that single vaccinations do produce immunity though. Please share the studies if you know of any that suggest otherwise, as I am going on info I've found online with no sources quoted. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: vaccinate FIV+ for FeLV?
I personally don't believe in boosters. There's been no research done to show they are required, as far as I am aware of. There have been studies done that show that single vaccinations do produce immunity though. Please share the studies if you know of any that suggest otherwise, as I am going on info I've found online with no sources quoted. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
Re: vaccinate FIV+ for FeLV?
why just once? doesn't it take two doses to establish immunity? and, from experience, FIV cats are as likely to throw off FeLV as healthy cats. in fact, FIV cats are HEALTHIER, in almost every sanctuary setting, than strays and ferals are. On 3/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Use the merial PUREVAX brand FELV vaccine, it is the safest one. I do think that FIV+ cats who may be exposed should be vaccinated (once, no boosters needed). FIV makes a cat more prone to contract other things, including FELV. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: vaccinate FIV+ for FeLV?
Use the merial PUREVAX brand FELV vaccine, it is the safest one. I do think that FIV+ cats who may be exposed should be vaccinated (once, no boosters needed). FIV makes a cat more prone to contract other things, including FELV. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources
vaccinate FIV+ for FeLV?
We have two FIV+ cats in our household, one of whom has previously been vaccinated against FeLV. The other is a recent foster care arrival. We are considering bringing in a cat who MAY have been exposed to FeLV. She has tested negative on an Elisa but exposure is recent enough, and Elisa inaccurate enough, that I'd rather be safe and vaccinate the current foster cat (already FIV+) before she arrives. (The rest of the household is already vaccinated.) Thoughts, recommendations? Lynette =^..^= "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be measured by the way in which its animals are treated." --Mahatma Gandhi, 1869-1948
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I don't vaccinate for distemper in my FeLV cats anymore. I had 2 die within a month of being vaccinated. I got rabies at the time they were fixed only because the county requires it. Unless your cats are at risk, I wouldn't vaccinate. But that's just my 2 cents. Beth On Dec 6, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Sally wrote: A few questions here: I have two FELV cats. One symptomatic the other is not. They have both done the IR protocol per my request, My Vet normally will also vaccinate them for the usual diseases. Tiny is due for rabies and the distemper group. Junior the sick one would only get the distemper, but not tomorrow because he still has a URI and an eye infection. I know there is some disagreement as to whether is vaccinate an immune compromised cat or not. My feeling is Tiny had a weak positive and no symptoms. He has been kept in the same room as Junior for three + weeks and has not caught Juniors cold. I will vaccinate him against the normal stuff and the vet would also vaccinate him against FeLV. Any thoughts about that and what are pros and con Junior has been on Baytril for 10 days. He acts a bit better but definitely not himself. He is due for one more IR which I will get tomorrow. I am a bit concerned about his eye. It is closed shut he doesnt like me to fool with it. I have tried getting opthalmalic ointment in it mostly I miss. I did get some in it tonight. It looked pretty inflamed. He is mostly blind in this eye from being hit by a car last April. I have tried L Lysine in his food but he is not eating all that well. Any thoughts here? Of Course I will get the Vet to look at it tomorrow. I am also taking the paper on Alferon for the vet to read over. I think he needs something more. Good news is he is no longer anemic and his gingivitis is better. Thanks for your help Sally - Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.
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I hope Junior feels better soon. My vet only recommended the distemper for Mama Kitty when she is due next year since she has FeVL...and, like your vet, wouldn't administer unless she was symptom free and doing well. My vet's take on this is that it would be horrible to have her fight off the FeVL only to succumb to something that was preventable. That seems to make some sense to me. All the others get all the vaccines including the vaccine for FeVL. elizabeth *Save the earth. It's the only planet with chocolate.* -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, 6 Dec 2006 5:53 PM Subject: Vaccinate A few questions here: I have two FELV cats. One symptomatic the other is not. They have both done the IR protocol per my request, My Vet normally will also vaccinate them for the usual diseases. Tiny is due for rabies and the distemper group. Junior the sick one would only get the distemper, but not tomorrow because he still has a URI and an eye infection. I know there is some disagreement as to whether is vaccinate an immune compromised cat or not. My feeling is Tiny had a weak positive and no symptoms. He has been kept in the same room as Junior for three + weeks and has not caught Junior’s cold. I will vaccinate him against the normal stuff and the vet would also vaccinate him against FeLV. Any thoughts about that and what are pros and cons. Junior has been on Baytril for 10 days. He acts a bit better but definitely not himself. He is due for one more IR which I will get tomorrow. I am a bit concerned about his eye. It is closed shut he doesn’t like me to fool with it. I have tried getting opthalmalic ointment in it mostly I miss. I did get some in it tonight. It looked pretty inflamed. He is mostly blind in this eye from being hit by a car last April. I have tried L Lysine in his food but he is not eating all that well. Any thoughts here? Of Course I will get the Vet to look at it tomorrow. I am also taking the paper on Alferon for the vet to read over. I think he needs something more. Good news is he is no longer anemic and his gingivitis is better. Thanks for your help Sally Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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you can get a pound of powdered lysine--something like 450 doses--for less than $15.00 check the archives, sources have been mentioned a number of times! On 12/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I get lysine for Simba, my FIV+, in gel form from the vet. I just suck it right into a syringe & squirt it into his mouth. It's supposed to be palatable for cats, but he's too smart...he knows I'm trying to slip him something & won't eat it if I put it in his food. It's called Viralys & it's $12.00 for 5 oz. It contains 250 mg of lysine per 1/4 tsp. I'm not sure how this compares cost wise to other products, but thought I'd throw it out there because it's easy to give. Yvonne In a message dated 11/30/2006 7:43:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you tried mixing the lysine into some chicken or turkey baby food? most cats really love baby food and will eat lysine mixed into it. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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I get lysine for Simba, my FIV+, in gel form from the vet. I just suck it right into a syringe & squirt it into his mouth. It's supposed to be palatable for cats, but he's too smart...he knows I'm trying to slip him something & won't eat it if I put it in his food. It's called Viralys & it's $12.00 for 5 oz. It contains 250 mg of lysine per 1/4 tsp. I'm not sure how this compares cost wise to other products, but thought I'd throw it out there because it's easy to give. Yvonne In a message dated 11/30/2006 7:43:11 P.M. Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Have you tried mixing the lysine into some chicken or turkey baby food? most cats really love baby food and will eat lysine mixed into it.
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Hi Sally, I assume you mean Immunoregulin (IR)? Re URI, I usually syringe Lysine, and start out with a big dose - 500-1000 mg to start, twice daily.. I get it powdered, or grind up the tablets, and mix with water or Aloe Vera juice or chicken broth, etc. Sometimes I put a little Vitamin C in it. I syringe it twice daily. if yours isn't working, I'd probably up the dose and add some vitamin C. Just the way I do it... I always heard *never* to vaccinate FELV cats for FELV. But then I took in these cats from an Oklahoma woman, and her vet actually recommended vaccinating the FELV cats - go figure. I of course wouldn't do the Rabies - why bother? Why stress the kitty's system? Again, it's the way I do things. Best of luck, Gloria On Dec 6, 2006, at 5:53 PM, Sally wrote: A few questions here: I have two FELV cats. One symptomatic the other is not. They have both done the IR protocol per my request, My Vet normally will also vaccinate them for the usual diseases. Tiny is due for rabies and the distemper group. Junior the sick one would only get the distemper, but not tomorrow because he still has a URI and an eye infection. I know there is some disagreement as to whether is vaccinate an immune compromised cat or not. My feeling is Tiny had a weak positive and no symptoms. He has been kept in the same room as Junior for three + weeks and has not caught Junior’s cold. I will vaccinate him against the normal stuff and the vet would also vaccinate him against FeLV. Any thoughts about that and what are pros and con Junior has been on Baytril for 10 days. He acts a bit better but definitely not himself. He is due for one more IR which I will get tomorrow. I am a bit concerned about his eye. It is closed shut he doesn’t like me to fool with it. I have tried getting opthalmalic ointment in it mostly I miss. I did get some in it tonight. It looked pretty inflamed. He is mostly blind in this eye from being hit by a car last April. I have tried L Lysine in his food but he is not eating all that well. Any thoughts here? Of Course I will get the Vet to look at it tomorrow. I am also taking the paper on Alferon for the vet to read over. I think he needs something more. Good news is he is no longer anemic and his gingivitis is better. Thanks for your help Sally
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Have you tried mixing the lysine into some chicken or turkey baby food? most cats really love baby food and will eat lysine mixed into it. I have found lysine to help more than anything with eye problems. Though if it is uveitis he really may need the ointment as well. Did the vet show you how to pull down the lower lid and put the ointment in the space it opens? If it is a URI, I have heard that zithromax works better than any other antibiotic for resistant uri's. Have you seen an internist? If I have a medical problem with a cat or dog that does not respond to the vet's prescribed course of treatment, the next step is I try to take them to an internist for a second opinion. Michelle In a message dated 11/30/2006 6:53:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Junior has been on Baytril for 10 days. He acts a bit better but definitely not himself. He is due for one more IR which I will get tomorrow. I am a bit concerned about his eye. It is closed shut he doesn’t like me to fool with it. I have tried getting opthalmalic ointment in it mostly I miss. I did get some in it tonight. It looked pretty inflamed. He is mostly blind in this eye from being hit by a car last April. I have tried L Lysine in his food but he is not eating all that well. Any thoughts here? Of Course I will get the Vet to look at it tomorrow. I am also taking the paper on Alferon for the vet to read over. I think he needs something more. Good news is he is no longer anemic and his gingivitis is better.
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A few questions here: I have two FELV cats. One symptomatic the other is not. They have both done the IR protocol per my request, My Vet normally will also vaccinate them for the usual diseases. Tiny is due for rabies and the distemper group. Junior the sick one would only get the distemper, but not tomorrow because he still has a URI and an eye infection. I know there is some disagreement as to whether is vaccinate an immune compromised cat or not. My feeling is Tiny had a weak positive and no symptoms. He has been kept in the same room as Junior for three + weeks and has not caught Junior's cold. I will vaccinate him against the normal stuff and the vet would also vaccinate him against FeLV. Any thoughts about that and what are pros and cons. Junior has been on Baytril for 10 days. He acts a bit better but definitely not himself. He is due for one more IR which I will get tomorrow. I am a bit concerned about his eye. It is closed shut he doesn't like me to fool with it. I have tried getting opthalmalic ointment in it mostly I miss. I did get some in it tonight. It looked pretty inflamed. He is mostly blind in this eye from being hit by a car last April. I have tried L Lysine in his food but he is not eating all that well. Any thoughts here? Of Course I will get the Vet to look at it tomorrow. I am also taking the paper on Alferon for the vet to read over. I think he needs something more. Good news is he is no longer anemic and his gingivitis is better. Thanks for your help Sally
