Re: blood testing for FeLV etc

2006-11-27 Thread TenHouseCats

well, if you're using a calibrated dropper it is or can be, at least!

On 11/27/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Yeah, really, a "drop" isn't such an accurate form of measurement, the drop
size would vary I should think, depending on the consistency of the blood.

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Re: blood testing for FeLV etc

2006-11-27 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
Yeah, really, a "drop" isn't such an accurate form of measurement, the drop
size would vary I should think, depending on the consistency of the blood.

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Re: blood testing for FeLV etc

2006-11-27 Thread TenHouseCats

actually, there is something in the instructions i think that
quantifies a drop, or actually, the MINIMUM blood needed. it's even
possible that idexx or one of the other companies has the instructions
on line in a pdf file..

the thing with snap tests is they are very specific in the
instructions about the order of things to do, how long the test has to
be out at room temperature before you use, exactly how to "snap"
it--and if not done correctly, you compromise the results. i'm NOT a
vet tech, so the first time i read the instructions, it was rather
intimidating, and, on paper, confusing. so i learned to do them
working with my vet, and a husband/wife MD/VT team who had the process
down to a literal science--one would scruff in such a way that claws
and teeth were out of the way while the other went in on a rear leg
and got the blood before the cat hardly noticed... but after not
having done one in years, i'd be very hesitant to assume that i could
get it right the first time after all this time



On 11/27/06, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Or maybe it was a big drop?  (Hard to quantify a "drop."  Do we know how
many ml -- or some other measurement -- of blood is required?)

Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Humm, ok, maybe it is 3 drops. I swear, I've seen vets do it and they only
used a
drop, but maybe they were not doing it right.

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Re: blood testing for FeLV etc

2006-11-27 Thread Kelly L

At 06:07 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote:

Actually they are just capillary tubes.
Kelly

Humm, ok, maybe it is 3 drops. I swear, I've seen vets do it and 
they only used a

drop, but maybe they were not doing it right.

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Re: blood testing for FeLV etc

2006-11-27 Thread TenHouseCats

all i could remember was it was 4 drops of something--it's 3 drops of
blood, and 4 of test solution. h--if vets aren't reading the
directions and doing the test right, could explain some of the
inaccurate results!

On 11/26/06, Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Humm, ok, maybe it is 3 drops. I swear, I've seen vets do it and they only used 
a
drop, but maybe they were not doing it right.

Phaewryn

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Re: blood testing for FeLV etc

2006-11-27 Thread Kelly L

At 06:07 PM 11/26/2006, you wrote:



Then why not get 'pipettes" they can draw up several drops and then 
you should have what you need.

Kelly L


Humm, ok, maybe it is 3 drops. I swear, I've seen vets do it and 
they only used a

drop, but maybe they were not doing it right.

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Re: blood testing for FeLV etc

2006-11-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
Or maybe it was a big drop?  (Hard to quantify a "drop."  Do we know how many 
ml -- or some other measurement -- of blood is required?)  

Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  Humm, ok, maybe it is 3 
drops. I swear, I've seen vets do it and they only used a
drop, but maybe they were not doing it right.

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Re: blood testing for FeLV etc

2006-11-26 Thread Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn
Humm, ok, maybe it is 3 drops. I swear, I've seen vets do it and they only used 
a
drop, but maybe they were not doing it right.

Phaewryn

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re: blood testing for FeLV etc

2006-11-26 Thread TenHouseCats

from a vet tech pal:


"Hi MC,

Nope, the info is not accurate.  You need 3 drops of blood to do a Snap test
and the easiest way to get it is with a 1cc syringe and 25 Ga. needle.  We
usually use one of the back legs for this, but with small kittens we use the
jugular.  Using a lancet will almost always give you one only one drop of
blood, which is only enough for testing blood glucose, and getting that drop
is not always as easy as it sounds.  Even for professionals.

The test for anemia, a PCV or hematocrit, uses a lot more than a few drops
of blood.  We get this by using only a 25 Ga. needle, no syringe.  The
needle slips easily into a vein (usually!) and you remove the needle once
the hub is about half full of blood. The blood is then transferred to a
small, thin tube. In order to get enough blood for a hematocrit from an ear
you would have to use a lancet multiple times, or be working on a cat with a
bleeding disorder."


> The thing is, I believe you only need ONE blood drop to do the SNAP test,
> and you can pull that using a lancet on the ear flap, just like if you
> wanted to do a blood glucose reading for diabetes. So... no vet needed,

no

> vet tech needed, anyone can be taught to use a lancet on the ear to get a
> blood droplet. The problem is that everyone's always still doing things

the

> hard way because it's habit, and no one wants to use modern technology

and

> methods. There is NO NEED to draw blood from a vein for tests that only
> require a drop of blood, this includes the test for anemia, and any SNAP
> tests.


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