minnie
minnie wasjust treated less than two weeks ago for an abdominal abcess; i noticed that she hadn't had a bowel movement for a few days and took her into animal emergency two drain tubes were put in and some oral antibiotics...also fluids as her system was weak from the high fever she did ok after the proceedure... ate ok... took her into a new vet that came highly recommended. she IS awesome. she said that minnie's recent medical incident was probably due to the FELV and her weakened immune system... she put her on some more antibiotics...( which have really seemed to help ) but was still not geting enough fluid so i had to take her in twice last week for sub-q's she hates these and it stresses her so that i would like to try another approach. my new vet was going out of town this weekend and wouldn't be back until next week. she said she would be available by phone if i had any concerns minnie's new doc did prepare me that minnie was facing some pretty dire realities... she said there were a number of things we might try and echoed my concerns about quality of life i adore this kitten ( well she is 10 years old but has always been so tiny) i just want what is best for her... LJ
Re: minnie
Thanks. That helps. In that case I would very highly recommend that you give her a few doses of Immuno-Regulin shots. There is info about it on the website (www.felineleukemia.org). It has helped a bunch of our cats with weak immune issues like respiratory infections and low white blood cell counts and anemia. It has specifically helped with fevers. It is an IV injection every 3 or 4 days for a couple of weeks. When I have used it, I have only needed to do one or two shots before seeing great improvement. Has Minnie been positive since she was born? If so, 10 years is quite an accomplishment-- I'm jealous! It is my dream for mine to live that long. So far my oldest was just under 7 when she died. I have two now, about 5 and 6 I think (I have had them 4 years so am guessing at how old they were when they arrived-- they looked like young adults). Michelle In a message dated 7/2/2006 2:38:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: minnie wasjust treated less than two weeks ago for an abdominal abcess; i noticed that she hadn't had a bowel movement for a few days and took her into animal emergency two drain tubes were put in and some oral antibiotics...also fluids as her system was weak from the high fever she did ok after the proceedure... ate ok... took her into a new vet that came highly recommended. she IS awesome. she said that minnie's recent medical incident was probably due to the FELV and her weakened immune system... she put her on some more antibiotics...( which have really seemed to help ) but was still not geting enough fluid so i had to take her in twice last week for sub-q's she hates these and it stresses her so that i would like to try another approach. my new vet was going out of town this weekend and wouldn't be back until next week. she said she would be available by phone if i had any concerns minnie's new doc did prepare me that minnie was facing some pretty dire realities... she said there were a number of things we might try and echoed my concerns about quality of life i adore this kitten ( well she is 10 years old but has always been so tiny) i just want what is best for her... LJ
michelle/minnie
ya know, i have wondered the same thing (if minnie was felv when i got her).she had her first buncha shots from the vet and then her spay i just gave her thre shots she needed from then on as i did not want to over-immunize her has she was never outdoors she was always kinda small and not robust like the rest of my bunch... she was the quitessential mouser tho!! i love her and she has just now indignantly jumped of my lap to go to the cat cave.. (under my bed)... when dr. chris comes back this week i will ask her about the meds...you are are PEACH LJ
Minnie and LJ (chicken broth recipe)
Hi LJ, I think what Michelle was asking is what has the vet diagnosed Minnie with besides the felv. Felv in and of itself does not make them sick. It makes their immune system weak and they can't fight off diseases as well as cats that don't have felv. You have to know what is making Minnie sick in order to know how to treat it. If your vet is telling you only that she has felv and not treating whatever is making her sick, only trying to keep her alive with fluids, then you need to see another vet or talk to your current one about diagnosing what's going on. Do try offering Minnie other things to eat, if her stomach is upset, she may be less likely to eat things that she's eaten before. Use your imagination and think like a cat. Sometimes they will lap food, but won't chew. Sometimes warming food will bring out the aroma more and get them to eat. Please do try the baby food. Get Beechnut, rather than Gerbers and an all meat type, like chicken, turkey or beef. Beef is harder to digest so you might be better off with poultry, but I have one kitty that won't eat any except the Gerbers ham baby food. You have to just keep trying. I've had kitties stop eating and when I give them just a taste, (with putting food in their mouths, either with my finger or syringe), they'll start to lap it off the bowl. It sort of gets them kick-started and reminds them they are hungry. Another hint for getting cats to drink more water is to get one of those kitty fountains. It circulates the water in the bowl and some cats are more likely to drink running water, maybe they are attracted to the sound of it. Give her plain broth and try the liver shake recipe that has been recommended on the list. Here's a recipe from a friend of mine that has worked well for some of my cats, (I've also added colostrum to the recipe): The following is a sort of 'tonic' I developed during episodes in my cats of inappetence and/or vomiting, diarrhea, etc., when they wouldn't eat food. This is a short-term option I have used successfully to provide some nutrients while supporting the cats back to health. I give it via oral syringe, usually in 1/8 tsp or 1/4 tsp doses at a time every 30-60 minutes depending upon the individual circumstances. 1/4 cup plain chicken broth (I prefer it fairly watery and not too much fat; I usually have some of this in the freezer from when I crock-pot a chicken for one of the above recipes) couple drops PetTinic 2 smidgens of KMR (VetSolutions Kitten Milk Replacement formula) 2 smidgens of Slippery Elm Bark powder 1 smidgen of Acidophilus powder (Kyo-Dophilus) Sending prayers for you and your beloved Minnie that she gets better very soon, Please do find yourself a vet that can help you, Nina l.j. crabtree wrote: << she being treated for anything?>>> Felv, michelle. i hate that she is suffering like this... she has been my constant companion for the past ten years LJ
michelle/nina/belinda/marilyn - my minnie
thank you s much girlies will have to wait until tomorrow to see if the vet has any of the science diet a/d but will try the baby meats and maybe some of the pached ground chicken. minnie has never had a huge appetite...but she does have to have some protein. i am still trying to syringe her with water/pedialite...she hates this...lol...i know i asked this before, but abouthow much water a day for a 7# cat? i have been trying to give her about 10 ml every hour or so,,,she is getting over half of it maybe more... i hate totake her int tomorrow for a sub Qshe HATES it and i don't want her to stress. do y'all think a b-12 shot might help? head bonks to one and all... LJ
Re: Minnie and LJ (chicken broth recipe)
Nina is saying to get Beechnut because it is better quality, in that it does not contain corn starch, which cats don't need. But I have also found, with mine at least, that it is less palatable to them (probably because it is better for them!). I would get both brands (you may not even be able to find Beechnut-- they don't sell it much around here), and definitely try the Gerbers if she won't eat the Beechnut. I have found that chicken, turkey, and lamb (which I cringe at, having a sheep, and try to avoid for that reason) have seemed the most palatable to mine. Michelle In a message dated 7/1/2006 3:30:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Get Beechnut, rather than Gerbers and an all meat type, like chicken, turkey or beef. Beef is harder to digest so you might be better off with poultry, but I have one kitty that won't eat any except the Gerbers ham baby food.
Re: Minnie and LJ (chicken broth recipe)
You can poach chicken and grind it up to baby food consistency in a processor. Dixie and Kitty both like/liked it that way and you are not getting the grains you get in baby food.nor the additives. The little Black and Decker processors are great for this and cost very little. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 9:45 PM Subject: Re: Minnie and LJ (chicken broth recipe) Nina is saying to get Beechnut because it is better quality, in that it does not contain corn starch, which cats don't need. But I have also found, with mine at least, that it is less palatable to them (probably because it is better for them!). I would get both brands (you may not even be able to find Beechnut-- they don't sell it much around here), and definitely try the Gerbers if she won't eat the Beechnut. I have found that chicken, turkey, and lamb (which I cringe at, having a sheep, and try to avoid for that reason) have seemed the most palatable to mine. Michelle In a message dated 7/1/2006 3:30:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Get Beechnut, rather than Gerbers and an all meat type, like chicken, turkey or beef. Beef is harder to digest so you might be better off with poultry, but I have one kitty that won't eat any except the Gerbers ham baby food. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release Date: 6/30/2006
Re: michelle/nina/belinda/marilyn - my minnie
It's hard to say what would help without knowing what is wrong with her. She needs a diagnosis. There are so many things that positive cats can get, and most have treatments of one sort or another that at least sometimes work. Michelle In a message dated 7/2/2006 12:23:05 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thank you s much girlies will have to wait until tomorrow to see if the vet has any of the science diet a/d but will try the baby meats and maybe some of the pached ground chicken. minnie has never had a huge appetite...but she does have to have some protein. i am still trying to syringe her with water/pedialite...she hates this...lol...i know i asked this before, but abouthow much water a day for a 7# cat? i have been trying to give her about 10 ml every hour or so,,,she is getting over half of it maybe more... i hate totake her int tomorrow for a sub Qshe HATES it and i don't want her to stress. do y'all think a b-12 shot might help? head bonks to one and all... LJ
Re: michelle/nina/belinda/marilyn - my minnie
I want to help on the water thing - but I am in no way an expert on this. I have 8 cats...weights in pounds are 8, 11.5 ,11 ,10 ,12 ,17.5 ,9, 22lbs (yeah - I know 22lbs is HUGE but he looks like a small puma and has big bones). In a day, the kids drink from 3-4 cups of water a day. They are all very active though. I'm guessing this is like 1/3rd to 1/2 cup of water a day on average. Maybe more in summer. I'll let the experts correct me but if I were going to guess on my gang here, I would think you'd do well to give 1/4-1/3 cup of water a day. That's just a guess and in no way expert. Cats seem to live on the edge of dehydration. In a message dated 7/2/2006 11:23:05 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: thank you s much girlies will have to wait until tomorrow to see if the vet has any of the science diet a/d but will try the baby meats and maybe some of the pached ground chicken. minnie has never had a huge appetite...but she does have to have some protein. i am still trying to syringe her with water/pedialite...she hates this...lol...i know i asked this before, but abouthow much water a day for a 7# cat? i have been trying to give her about 10 ml every hour or so,,,she is getting over half of it maybe more... i hate totake her int tomorrow for a sub Qshe HATES it and i don't want her to stress. do y'all think a b-12 shot might help? head bonks to one and all... LJ
Re: michelle/nina/belinda/marilyn - my minnie
Can you learn to do the SQs at home? I did with Ebony and it is not difficult. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: l.j. crabtree To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: michelle/nina/belinda/marilyn - my minnie thank you s much girlies will have to wait until tomorrow to see if the vet has any of the science diet a/d but will try the baby meats and maybe some of the pached ground chicken. minnie has never had a huge appetite...but she does have to have some protein. i am still trying to syringe her with water/pedialite...she hates this...lol...i know i asked this before, but abouthow much water a day for a 7# cat? i have been trying to give her about 10 ml every hour or so,,,she is getting over half of it maybe more... i hate totake her int tomorrow for a sub Qshe HATES it and i don't want her to stress. do y'all think a b-12 shot might help? head bonks to one and all... LJ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release Date: 6/30/2006
RE: michelle/nina/belinda/marilyn - my minnie
The vet can show you or you can easily learn – I have a bunch of sub-q fluid bags that I bought for my CRF kitty, Hannibal who passed away a week ago.. I can give you some bags if you need, too. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marylyn Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 3:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: michelle/nina/belinda/marilyn - my minnie Can you learn to do the SQs at home? I did with Ebony and it is not difficult. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: l.j. crabtree To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2006 11:22 AM Subject: michelle/nina/belinda/marilyn - my minnie thank you s much girlies will have to wait until tomorrow to see if the vet has any of the science diet a/d but will try the baby meats and maybe some of the pached ground chicken. minnie has never had a huge appetite...but she does have to have some protein. i am still trying to syringe her with water/pedialite...she hates this...lol...i know i asked this before, but abouthow much water a day for a 7# cat? i have been trying to give her about 10 ml every hour or so,,,she is getting over half of it maybe more... i hate totake her int tomorrow for a sub Qshe HATES it and i don't want her to stress. do y'all think a b-12 shot might help? head bonks to one and all... LJ No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.8/380 - Release Date: 6/30/2006
