[FFmpeg-user] Upscaling SD 4x3 to FullHD 16x9 - Aspect Ratio problem

2018-06-22 Thread Christoph Gerstbauer
Hello I am trying to upscale a 720x608 (incl VBI) 25i 4:3 source to
1920x1080 25i 16:9.

My deinterlacing and reinterlacing is working, scaling and cropping too.
But I have understanding problem how to use the videofilter regarding
aspect ratios.

My source is 4:3 and the target is 16:9.
For the target I am expecting that I get a PillarBox FullHD image (black
bars left and right) where the original 4:3 aspect ratio of the source is
kept.
PROBLEM: But I get only a stretched 16:9 HD version of the 4:3 original
image. (no black bars at left and right)
See files:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mgwmiitcpgta0ym/scalertest.zip?dl=0

CommandLineOutput:

ffmpeg -i "F:\scaler test\_5sec.avi" -vf "crop=720:576:0:32, setfield=tff,
yadif=1:0:0, scale=-1:1080, tinterlace=interleave_top, fieldorder=tff"
-vcodec ffvhuff -an -s 1920x1080 -aspect 16:9 "F:\scaler
test\_5sec_fullHDinterlaced.avi"
ffmpeg version 3.4 Copyright (c) 2000-2017 the FFmpeg developers
  built with gcc 7.2.0 (GCC)
  configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-version3 --enable-sdl2
--enable-bzlib --enable-fontconfig --enable-gnutls --enable-iconv
--enable-libass --enable-libbluray --enable-libfreetype --enable-libmp3lame
--enable-libopenjpeg --enable-libopus --enable-libshine --enable-libsnappy
--enable-libsoxr --enable-libtheora --enable-libtwolame --enable-libvpx
--enable-libwavpack --enable-libwebp --enable-libx264 --enable-libx265
--enable-libxml2 --enable-libzimg --enable-lzma --enable-zlib --enable-gmp
--enable-libvidstab --enable-libvorbis --enable-cuda --enable-cuvid
--enable-d3d11va --enable-nvenc --enable-dxva2 --enable-avisynth
--enable-libmfx
  libavutil  55. 78.100 / 55. 78.100
  libavcodec 57.107.100 / 57.107.100
  libavformat57. 83.100 / 57. 83.100
  libavdevice57. 10.100 / 57. 10.100
  libavfilter 6.107.100 /  6.107.100
  libswscale  4.  8.100 /  4.  8.100
  libswresample   2.  9.100 /  2.  9.100
  libpostproc54.  7.100 / 54.  7.100
Input #0, avi, from 'F:\scaler test\_5sec.avi':
  Metadata:
encoder : Lavf58.12.100
  Duration: 00:00:05.00, start: 0.00, bitrate: 116115 kb/s
Stream #0:0: Video: ffvhuff (FFVH / 0x48564646), yuv422p, 720x608,
107684 kb/s, SAR 152:135 DAR 4:3, 25 fps, 25 tbr, 25 tbn, 25 tbc
Stream #0:1: Audio: pcm_s24le ([1][0][0][0] / 0x0001), 48000 Hz, 7.1,
s32 (24 bit), 9216 kb/s
File 'F:\scaler test\_5sec_fullHDinterlaced.avi' already exists. Overwrite
? [y/N] y
Stream mapping:
  Stream #0:0 -> #0:0 (ffvhuff (native) -> ffvhuff (native))
Press [q] to stop, [?] for help
Output #0, avi, to 'F:\scaler test\_5sec_fullHDinterlaced.avi':
  Metadata:
ISFT: Lavf57.83.100
Stream #0:0: Video: ffvhuff (FFVH / 0x48564646), yuv422p, 1920x1080
[SAR 1:1 DAR 16:9], q=2-31, 200 kb/s, 25 fps, 25 tbn, 25 tbc
Metadata:
  encoder : Lavc57.107.100 ffvhuff
frame=  125 fps= 53 q=-0.0 Lsize=  200261kB time=00:00:05.00
bitrate=328108.1kbits/s speed=2.14x
video:200253kB audio:0kB subtitle:0kB other streams:0kB global headers:0kB
muxing overhead: 0.004325%


Best Regards
Christoph Gerstbauer
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Upscaling SD 4x3 to FullHD 16x9 - Aspect Ratio problem

2018-06-22 Thread Cley Faye
Le ven. 22 juin 2018 à 14:43, Christoph Gerstbauer <
christophgerstba...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> PROBLEM: But I get only a stretched 16:9 HD version of the 4:3 original
> image. (no black bars at left and right)
>


> ffmpeg -i "F:\scaler test\_5sec.avi" -vf "crop=720:576:0:32, setfield=tff,
> yadif=1:0:0, scale=-1:1080, tinterlace=interleave_top, fieldorder=tff"
> -vcodec ffvhuff -an -s 1920x1080 -aspect 16:9 "F:\scaler
> test\_5sec_fullHDinterlaced.avi"
>

​The "-s" option is incorrect in your case. From the documentation:
> As an output option, this inserts the scale video filter to the end of
the corresponding filtergraph. Please use the scale filter directly to
insert it at the beginning or some other place.​

The scale video filter will take whatever ends up from your filter, and
scale it without respect to aspect ratio.
To do what you want, you probable have to use a complex filter, where you
create a secondary black source and paste the output of your current filter
into it using the "overlay" filter.
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Upscaling SD 4x3 to FullHD 16x9 - Aspect Ratio problem

2018-06-22 Thread Gyan Doshi



On 22-06-2018 06:13 PM, Christoph Gerstbauer wrote:



CommandLineOutput:

ffmpeg -i "F:\scaler test\_5sec.avi" -vf "crop=720:576:0:32, setfield=tff,
yadif=1:0:0, scale=-1:1080, tinterlace=interleave_top, fieldorder=tff"
-vcodec ffvhuff -an -s 1920x1080 -aspect 16:9 "F:\scaler


Since you're scaling proportionally ("-1:1080"), you need to pad out the 
frame to FHD.


ffmpeg -i in -vf "crop=720:576:0:32,setfield=tff,yadif=1:0:0,
  scale=-1:1080,pad=1920:1080:(ow-iw)/2:(oh-ih)/2,
  tinterlace=interleave_top, fieldorder=tff,
  setsar=1"
   -c:v ffvhuff -an -aspect 16:9   out

Additionally, since your input isn't square-pixels, the following scale 
may be more accurate,


scale=oh*4/3:1080

Regards,
Gyan
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Upscaling SD 4x3 to FullHD 16x9 - Aspect Ratio problem

2018-06-22 Thread Christoph Gerstbauer
>
>
> ​The "-s" option is incorrect in your case. From the documentation:
> > As an output option, this inserts the scale video filter to the end of
> the corresponding filtergraph. Please use the scale filter directly to
> insert it at the beginning or some other place.​
>
> The scale video filter will take whatever ends up from your filter, and
> scale it without respect to aspect ratio.
> To do what you want, you probable have to use a complex filter, where you
> create a secondary black source and paste the output of your current filter
> into it using the "overlay" filter.
>

I understand
So i need to generate (after the cropping and deinterlacing to 720x576 50p)
a filter syntax (within the videofilter) which transforms the 720x576 4:3
content to a pillarbox 1050x576 quare pixel video (with black bars at
sides) -> and THIS one I can rescale to HD.
Correct?

if yes, has anyone more experience with that?

br
Chris
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Upscaling SD 4x3 to FullHD 16x9 - Aspect Ratio problem

2018-06-22 Thread Cley Faye
Le ven. 22 juin 2018 à 15:10, Christoph Gerstbauer <
christophgerstba...@gmail.com> a écrit :

> >
> >
> > ​The "-s" option is incorrect in your case. From the documentation:
> > > As an output option, this inserts the scale video filter to the end of
> > the corresponding filtergraph. Please use the scale filter directly to
> > insert it at the beginning or some other place.​
> >
> > The scale video filter will take whatever ends up from your filter, and
> > scale it without respect to aspect ratio.
> > To do what you want, you probable have to use a complex filter, where you
> > create a secondary black source and paste the output of your current
> filter
> > into it using the "overlay" filter.
> >
>
> I understand
> So i need to generate (after the cropping and deinterlacing to 720x576 50p)
> a filter syntax (within the videofilter) which transforms the 720x576 4:3
> content to a pillarbox 1050x576 quare pixel video (with black bars at
> sides) -> and THIS one I can rescale to HD.
> Correct?
>
> if yes, has anyone more experience with that?
>

​Roughly. Look at the other answer; it basically does the pillarbox *after*
the initlal rescale, which is probably a better idea.​
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Upscaling SD 4x3 to FullHD 16x9 - Aspect Ratio problem

2018-06-22 Thread Dragan Randjelovic
Here is an interesting article:

https://avpres.net/FFmpeg/SD_HD.html

as far as scaling and re-sampling algo goes I would invoke avisynth and try
thin raster  with

Spline64Resize(1440,1080)

as it usually gives better Y-PSNR metric.

Try also sinc re-sampler and see if it suits your case. Once material is
with a lot of fractal details I get crisper results with it.

I would also consider colorspace matrix compensation for luma coefficients
like

colormatrix=bt601:bt709

and then your padding formula

pad=1920:1080:240:0

Re-interlacing  might not be necessary after all, even if it goes to
play-out.


Kind Regards.
.

On Fri, Jun 22, 2018 at 3:19 PM, Cley Faye  wrote:

> Le ven. 22 juin 2018 à 15:10, Christoph Gerstbauer <
> christophgerstba...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> > >
> > >
> > > ​The "-s" option is incorrect in your case. From the documentation:
> > > > As an output option, this inserts the scale video filter to the end
> of
> > > the corresponding filtergraph. Please use the scale filter directly to
> > > insert it at the beginning or some other place.​
> > >
> > > The scale video filter will take whatever ends up from your filter, and
> > > scale it without respect to aspect ratio.
> > > To do what you want, you probable have to use a complex filter, where
> you
> > > create a secondary black source and paste the output of your current
> > filter
> > > into it using the "overlay" filter.
> > >
> >
> > I understand
> > So i need to generate (after the cropping and deinterlacing to 720x576
> 50p)
> > a filter syntax (within the videofilter) which transforms the 720x576 4:3
> > content to a pillarbox 1050x576 quare pixel video (with black bars at
> > sides) -> and THIS one I can rescale to HD.
> > Correct?
> >
> > if yes, has anyone more experience with that?
> >
>
> ​Roughly. Look at the other answer; it basically does the pillarbox *after*
> the initlal rescale, which is probably a better idea.​
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Re: [FFmpeg-user] Upscaling SD 4x3 to FullHD 16x9 - Aspect Ratio problem

2018-06-25 Thread Christoph Gerstbauer
Gyan Doshi

thank you, that worked fine!

2018-06-22 15:09 GMT+02:00 Gyan Doshi :

>
>
> On 22-06-2018 06:13 PM, Christoph Gerstbauer wrote:
>
>
>> CommandLineOutput:
>>
>> ffmpeg -i "F:\scaler test\_5sec.avi" -vf "crop=720:576:0:32, setfield=tff,
>> yadif=1:0:0, scale=-1:1080, tinterlace=interleave_top, fieldorder=tff"
>> -vcodec ffvhuff -an -s 1920x1080 -aspect 16:9 "F:\scaler
>>
>
> Since you're scaling proportionally ("-1:1080"), you need to pad out the
> frame to FHD.
>
> ffmpeg -i in -vf "crop=720:576:0:32,setfield=tff,yadif=1:0:0,
>   scale=-1:1080,pad=1920:1080:(ow-iw)/2:(oh-ih)/2,
>   tinterlace=interleave_top, fieldorder=tff,
>   setsar=1"
>-c:v ffvhuff -an -aspect 16:9   out
>
> Additionally, since your input isn't square-pixels, the following scale
> may be more accurate,
>
> scale=oh*4/3:1080
>
> Regards,
> Gyan
>
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