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I have seen a few cases where the original product has been literally made into a mold for a knock-off. And in other cases, it appears an off shore company has bought or otherwise acquired the old molds or dies from a product, probably after the original manufacturer feels they are beyond their quality specifications. I've read CD dies are bought from major manufacturers for off-brand product after they are considered too worn for use. Art Mike Kersenbrock wrote: Arthur Entlich wrote: Although I won't go as far as to say all cables are made the same or by only a few sources, I will say that most off branded cables are made to similar construction specifications and are often from the same off-shore locations. Also, many companies that make low-cost cables (and other things for that matter) clone products of other companies. You may have them side by side and think they're made by the same company and they may not be. Mike K. (AKA A. Moose) Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: Interferences
Arthur Entlich wrote: Although I won't go as far as to say all cables are made the same or by only a few sources, I will say that most off branded cables are made to similar construction specifications and are often from the same off-shore locations. Also, many companies that make low-cost cables (and other things for that matter) clone products of other companies. You may have them side by side and think they're made by the same company and they may not be. Mike K. (AKA A. Moose) Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: Interferences
Although I won't go as far as to say all cables are made the same or by only a few sources, I will say that most off branded cables are made to similar construction specifications and are often from the same off-shore locations. I have opened up several cables over the years when they have failed (due to fatigue or misuse, or because I needed to adapt them to a slight change of wiring) and they can actually be quite difference in construction (build, materials used, manner of wire attachment, etc). (some use crimped contacts, some use soldered, some use gold contacts, etc., some use hot plastic molded plugs (basically unrepairable), some use removable slide plug covers, allowing the connections to be accessed). However, having said that, most seem to work reasonably, (although SCSI is one area where I have seen quality differences altering functionality). Cables are a major profit maker for big box stores, in fact, often it is the largest total profit they make on a sale, so best to not buy a cable form a big box store, unless it is a well recognized name brand (usually not offered to you when you buy a peripheral). The ones they usually try to sell to you with your purchase typically cost them $1 and they sell it to you for $10-15. Art Thomas Maugham wrote: I submit that there are actually very few cable manufacturers in the world and those few do all the manufacturing for the many vendors that sell them. Case in point, I bought a six foot USB cable in a dollar store for (surprise) one dollar. A friend bought a six foot USB cable in Radio Shack for 8 or 9 dollars. When the two were compared they were identical right down to the mold marks on the connectors. And yes, both were made in China. The cable bought in Radio Shack did not carry the Radio Shack name. In my professional life (I was a computer person for 40 years) we always bought the cheapest cables, tapes, diskettes, CDs, etc. and rarely had problems. Like many other products, the addition of a brand name, be it Apple, IBM, Gateway, Dell, Hewlett Packard, etc. makes for a higher price tag but not necessarily higher quality. Regards to all, Tom Maugham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian Vrieslander Sent: October 20, 2004 4:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Interferences On 10/20/04 12:50 PM, Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julian, while I don't disagree with the need to buy good shielded cables, I would suggest that there are many suppliers that are more cost effective than the cable that Apple sells. There's always the possibility that the specific cable you had was faulty. The connector manufacturing, as well as the cable itself could have been marginal, causing the problem. What I'm saying is that buying a cable for 10x the price isn't always the necessary solution. I don't dispute any of your comments. I bought a cable from Apple because I happened to be in an Apple store when I remembered that I needed a new cable, and I have had few problems with Apple-branded products. -- Julian Vrieslander [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: Interferences
Hi Tony, hi all, thanks for inputs I believe we all have some good tagliatelle recipes! OK, firewire, USB and video cables are (sometimes) shielded but most AC cables are not, they easily can catch electromagnetic interferences, the AC power itself carries a lot of interferences : rings, motors, fluorescent lights All this should bring more noise in our scans. Has somebody ever noticed that, and tested with success some EMI high frequency filters/surge protectors and/or clever cable arrangement? Best regards Didier Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: Interferences
As long as we are schmoozing about cables, I will put in a reminder to be wary of cheap Firewire cables. A few months ago, I was having some intermittent problems with my Nikon LS-4000. The source turned out to be a 3m FW cable that I had installed, so that I could move the scanner to a table next to my desk. The cable was a non-branded item purchased from an online store. Don't know if the problems were caused by interference, or signal degradation in the cable. I replaced it with a cable purchased from the local Apple store, and the scanner now works fine. Interestingly, the Apple FW cables are much thinner than the others I have seen. -- Julian Vrieslander [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: Interferences
Julian, while I don't disagree with the need to buy good shielded cables, I would suggest that there are many suppliers that are more cost effective than the cable that Apple sells. There's always the possibility that the specific cable you had was faulty. The connector manufacturing, as well as the cable itself could have been marginal, causing the problem. What I'm saying is that buying a cable for 10x the price isn't always the necessary solution. -kris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian Vrieslander Sent: Wednesday, October 20, 2004 2:54 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Interferences As long as we are schmoozing about cables, I will put in a reminder to be wary of cheap Firewire cables. A few months ago, I was having some intermittent problems with my Nikon LS-4000. The source turned out to be a 3m FW cable that I had installed, so that I could move the scanner to a table next to my desk. The cable was a non-branded item purchased from an online store. Don't know if the problems were caused by interference, or signal degradation in the cable. I replaced it with a cable purchased from the local Apple store, and the scanner now works fine. Interestingly, the Apple FW cables are much thinner than the others I have seen. -- Julian Vrieslander [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- -- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] Re: Interferences
On 10/20/04 12:50 PM, Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julian, while I don't disagree with the need to buy good shielded cables, I would suggest that there are many suppliers that are more cost effective than the cable that Apple sells. There's always the possibility that the specific cable you had was faulty. The connector manufacturing, as well as the cable itself could have been marginal, causing the problem. What I'm saying is that buying a cable for 10x the price isn't always the necessary solution. I don't dispute any of your comments. I bought a cable from Apple because I happened to be in an Apple store when I remembered that I needed a new cable, and I have had few problems with Apple-branded products. -- Julian Vrieslander [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] RE: Interferences
I submit that there are actually very few cable manufacturers in the world and those few do all the manufacturing for the many vendors that sell them. Case in point, I bought a six foot USB cable in a dollar store for (surprise) one dollar. A friend bought a six foot USB cable in Radio Shack for 8 or 9 dollars. When the two were compared they were identical right down to the mold marks on the connectors. And yes, both were made in China. The cable bought in Radio Shack did not carry the Radio Shack name. In my professional life (I was a computer person for 40 years) we always bought the cheapest cables, tapes, diskettes, CDs, etc. and rarely had problems. Like many other products, the addition of a brand name, be it Apple, IBM, Gateway, Dell, Hewlett Packard, etc. makes for a higher price tag but not necessarily higher quality. Regards to all, Tom Maugham -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Julian Vrieslander Sent: October 20, 2004 4:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: Interferences On 10/20/04 12:50 PM, Kris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Julian, while I don't disagree with the need to buy good shielded cables, I would suggest that there are many suppliers that are more cost effective than the cable that Apple sells. There's always the possibility that the specific cable you had was faulty. The connector manufacturing, as well as the cable itself could have been marginal, causing the problem. What I'm saying is that buying a cable for 10x the price isn't always the necessary solution. I don't dispute any of your comments. I bought a cable from Apple because I happened to be in an Apple store when I remembered that I needed a new cable, and I have had few problems with Apple-branded products. -- Julian Vrieslander [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
