[filmscanners] Re: suggestions for scanning single frame 110 format?

2004-01-06 Thread David J. Littleboy

Dieder Bylsma [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 can't do it with glass slide holders because I get really nasty newton
rings.

Yep. Ouch.


can't do it with anti-newton ring slide holders because the
anti-newton device results in an even more grainy result that looks
like the scanner was covered with sand when it was scanning.


Make a mask (heavy paper or plastic) with a cutout the size of the frame
that sits on the lower (nearest the scanner lens) glass. Use anti-Newton
glass for the upper (nearest the scanner light source) glass.

The idea is that the scanner lens/CCD should be looking through either clear
glass or no glass, and the anti-Newton glass should press the film onto a
4-sided frame. This won't work for perversely warped frames, but will be
fine for most.

The anti-Newton glass holder for my scanner (Nikon 8000) only has
anti-Newton on the top glass. They think that the unevenness in the film
emulsion should prevent Newton rings most of the time. Wrong. But they knew
they were wrong and provide masksg. (Actually, I cut my own masks because
the masks they provide only mask one frame.)

David J. Littleboy
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Tokyo, Japan


Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners'
or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body


[filmscanners] RE: suggestions for scanning single frame 110 format?

2004-01-03 Thread Paul D. DeRocco
 From: Dieder Bylsma

 I have come across a collection of 20 or so single frame clippings
 from the old 110 film format.

 I'm stuck scratching my head trying to figure out how to scan them
 with any sort of scanner. It all boils down to size of the frame
 (tiny) and also the inherent curl across the negative which causes it
 to bow nicely.

 Can't do it with the Nikon film scanner because the curl exceeds its
 depth of field.

 can't do it with glass slide holders because I get really nasty
 newton rings.

 can't do it with anti-newton ring slide holders because the
 anti-newton device results in an even more grainy result that looks
 like the scanner was covered with sand when it was scanning.

 any suggestions as to how I could deal with this?

I had lousy results with anti-Newton glass, too. Since you only have a
limited number to scan, I suggest paying someone else to do it, maybe on a
high-end flatbed scanner.

--

Ciao,   Paul D. DeRocco
Paulmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]


Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners'
or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body


[filmscanners] Re: suggestions for scanning single frame 110 format?

2004-01-03 Thread Tony Schick
You can get converter mounts for them. That is, a plastic mount without the
glass sandwich that holds the film, the mount itself fits into a plastic
surround (standard 35mm slide size) that would allow it to go into any film
scanner.

Works perfectly in my Nikon LS4000

I'm new to this list - can you post pictures? If so I'll photograph the
mount and upload it. If not, I'll send it direct. It's called Kindermann
made in W Germany. An adapter for 110 format slides

Tony Schick
Adelaide

- Original Message -
From: Dieder Bylsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:18 PM
Subject: [filmscanners] suggestions for scanning single frame 110 format?


I have come across a collection of 20 or so single frame clippings
from the old 110 film format.

I'm stuck scratching my head trying to figure out how to scan them
with any sort of scanner. It all boils down to size of the frame
(tiny) and also the inherent curl across the negative which causes it
to bow nicely.

Can't do it with the Nikon film scanner because the curl exceeds its
depth of field.

can't do it with glass slide holders because I get really nasty newton
rings.

can't do it with anti-newton ring slide holders because the
anti-newton device results in an even more grainy result that looks
like the scanner was covered with sand when it was scanning.

any suggestions as to how I could deal with this?

I'm thinking either a way to flatten the acetate base of the film
(how would I do that) or to somehow sandwich it in a way that causes
it to go flat w/o newton rings. But I'm still at a loss for any
practical plans.

any ideas would be greatly appreciated.


Dieder



Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe
filmscanners'
or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title
or body



Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners'
or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body


[filmscanners] RE: suggestions for scanning single frame 110 format?

2004-01-03 Thread LAURIE SOLOMON
I would think that any of the slide mount manufqacturers would have slide
mounts  that are 35mm in size but have a window suitable for a 110 film chip
( some may use anti-newtonian glass but some are glassless).

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tony Schick
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 1:58 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [filmscanners] Re: suggestions for scanning single frame 110
format?


You can get converter mounts for them. That is, a plastic mount without the
glass sandwich that holds the film, the mount itself fits into a plastic
surround (standard 35mm slide size) that would allow it to go into any film
scanner.

Works perfectly in my Nikon LS4000

I'm new to this list - can you post pictures? If so I'll photograph the
mount and upload it. If not, I'll send it direct. It's called Kindermann
made in W Germany. An adapter for 110 format slides

Tony Schick
Adelaide

- Original Message -
From: Dieder Bylsma [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, January 03, 2004 5:18 PM
Subject: [filmscanners] suggestions for scanning single frame 110 format?


I have come across a collection of 20 or so single frame clippings
from the old 110 film format.

I'm stuck scratching my head trying to figure out how to scan them
with any sort of scanner. It all boils down to size of the frame
(tiny) and also the inherent curl across the negative which causes it
to bow nicely.

Can't do it with the Nikon film scanner because the curl exceeds its
depth of field.

can't do it with glass slide holders because I get really nasty newton
rings.

can't do it with anti-newton ring slide holders because the
anti-newton device results in an even more grainy result that looks
like the scanner was covered with sand when it was scanning.

any suggestions as to how I could deal with this?

I'm thinking either a way to flatten the acetate base of the film
(how would I do that) or to somehow sandwich it in a way that causes
it to go flat w/o newton rings. But I'm still at a loss for any
practical plans.

any ideas would be greatly appreciated.


Dieder



Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe
filmscanners'
or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title
or body




Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe
filmscanners'
or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title
or body


---
Incoming mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release Date: 12/30/2003

---
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
Version: 6.0.557 / Virus Database: 349 - Release Date: 12/30/2003


Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners'
or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body