[filmscanners] SS4000 & SCSI under Vista
While we're talking about SCSI scanners under current OSs, how 'bout Vista? I'm running an SS4000 on a Win XP laptop through an Adaptec 1480B. The card is supported under Vista, but I don't know what to expect for the scanner. Bob G -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 11, 2008 2:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [filmscanners] Re: SCSI support on a Mac Pro Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000 again
I gather nobody on the list has attempted to clean the CCD of a SS4000? Rob Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000--need help troubleshooting
I took my SS4000 apart a while back to blow dust off the mirror. In the process, I broke loose one of the wires to the upper microswitch on the inside of the front door. I was able to solder it back on and the scanner seemed to work OK. I just tried to do some scans today after a several week hiatus. Here are the problems. I have a Dell 930 Pentium III with a SIIG SCSI board. The scanner is the only external device. I have an internal JAZZ drive that works fine. OS is Win2000. 1. With the scanner turned off, the computer starts fine and seems to run OK. A SCSI Bus scan shows no device on SCSI ID#4, the ID set on the back of the SS4000. 2. If I turn the scanner on before booting, the computer will delay several minutes as the SCSI ROM is being loaded right after the Video card ROM appears just after bootup. It will continue to load but when the low-res "Windows is starting up..." red/white/blue screen starts, the progress bar freezes about 2/3 the way through. If I shut down the ss4000 at that point, Windows will continue to load almost immediately. 3. One nice thing about the SS4000 has been that you can turn it on anytime the computer is up and running and start scanning without having to reboot. When I boot the computer now with the SS4000 off, and then later turn it on, the computer experiences periodic freezes for a few second. 4. I tried to reinstall the ss4000 firmware after booting with the scanner off and turning it on post-boot. The SS4000 firmware program reports it can't find the device. 5. I have an HP 4C SCSI scanner that is running fine. They are not strung together; I simply move the SCSI cable between these two devices. I presume the SCSI cable is OK because the HP operates normally. 6. I just reopened the SS4000 and all the connectors are seated properly and the soldered wire is still holding fast. Any ideas or suggestions? Time to send the SS4000 in for repair? If the repair is really a minimum of $400, perhaps I would be better off purchasing a different scanner. This one was made in April 1999. Thanks in advance, Stan Schwartz Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000--natural resolution
Does the SS4000 have a natural resolution at which setting it needs to do no resampling? If so, is that at 4000 dpi? Stan Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000 mirror cleaning
Camera repairman said to use lens cleaning tissue only, nothing else. > Art wrote: > Does he suggest a specific type of tissue (like a Kim-wipe?), or just as > soft a one as possible (again with NO pressure) to answer another item: The brush that came with your scanner has very little to do with the optical system cleaning, it gets big stuff off the light source but not the optical mirror or anything important. I think a few posts went by from persons who missed part of the thread about how to tell if your Polaroid SS4000 needs cleaning or how to do it. If you missed out, please post me privately. If a lot of people need information I will post a summary to the group, otherwise I will just answer questions off-list and close the thread. Thanks. -- Thomas Robinson 441 NE Jarrett St. Portland OR 97211-3126 USA 503-460-0415 Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000+ and focus
Recently, I've been having focus problems with my SS4000+, which I use on a Mac, firewire and OS9.2. When I purchased the unit, the scans were razor (grain) sharp using both silverfast and polacolor software. Since it's last firmware update, or so it seems, the unit's focus seems to have gone soft on many scans, not all, but most. My first try was to contact polaroid, and they suggested scanning a high contrast slide 10x, then disabling the auto focus as a "trick" to get the scanner to re-focus properly. This did work for about 6 to 10 scans then back to soft grain. As a test, I downloaded vuescan, and disabled the polaroid extensions. Low and behold, every scan is razor sharp. It would seem to indicate that perhaps the problem is in the software? You might say, why not use vuescan, which is a fine program, but I've grown very used to and like silverfast and would like to continue. I guess the question is, has anyone else had this problem, and might suggest a fix, or does the scanner need to go into the black hole of repair and wait 6 weeks. Thanks Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000 scans--strange pixel spike in histogram
I ran this question by last week and received one reply that wasn't the solution. Some of my recent scans done on an SS4000 are showing an odd spike in the histograms. I first noticed this when I was doing Levels correction in Photoshop. I checked the histograms in both Polacolor Insight and VueScan as I did more scans and noticed the same thing. Here is an example of what I mean: http://www.tallgrassimages.com/test/histogram.jpg These single level pixel spikes seem to be in the blue channel. I can't see any streaking or lines or other anomalies on the scanned images themselves. Sometimes there will be a very high pixel count in the spike as reported by Photoshop. Sometimes the spike is visible but Photoshop doesn't register a high pixel count at that particular level. These spikes seem to occur most commonly at level 0 or level 1. They are not the same from slide to slide and some slide scans don't produce such a spike. Any ideas? Stan Schwartz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000 Plus not to Europe!
Two days ago, I spoke to Scandinavian Photo (with Roger, a guy I have spoken to MANY times the last few months) who had just spoken to Polaroid who said that Polaroid did not intend to sell SS4000 Plus at all in Europe!! I was stunned, amazed, disappointed, The reason for not taking it to Europe was of course the Economic problems of Polaroid, that they couldn't afford to market the machine. But to me, I thought that the SS4000 was so well known that the Plus version didn't need any new marketing - it is just a very good upgrade of the well respected SS4000 (which is not sold any more)! I have been waiting for that SS4000 Plus ever since November last year, ever since I heard of that it was "soon to be released". What a waste of good technology not to sell the nice machine in Europe! What a waste of potential income for Polaroid! I simply can't understand Polaroids decision. Is it expensive to sell a machine already in production? A machine people already are waiting for? Then why keep selling the 120 version which is such a low volume thing? Strange! Now I have to rethink and buy something else Or is the above information actually misinformation? David, please tell me that it is all wrong. (But I can't wait another half a year.) __BragIt___ Harald E Brandt [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://bragit.com Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000 and XP
Hello All, Trying to install SS4000 on new computer with XP. Not recognizing scanner. Been to Polaroid site and - unless I'm not understanding something - it's not working for me. Can anyone advise? Thanks, Denise --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.346 / Virus Database: 194 - Release Date: 4/10/2002 Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000
Hi. Does anybody know where can I still find SS4000 available in US for online ordering ? (Ecost doesn't seem to hold them any more, neither B&H...) Regards, Alex Z Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000 Batch scanning blues. : (
Since the 35mm roll scanning option on the SS4000 has been nixed, I need to come up with a new plan. I need the ability to batch scan a roll of film unattended or I need to bite the bullet and buy a D30 or (gasp) a 1D. I am looking for a little guidance from some of you that may have been through my list of options already. (keep in mind that the budget is limited or I would have a 1D on order and be done with it) Final output is to an Epson printer and sometimes a Fuji frontier or light-jet. 1) I own Canon glass and do plan to eventually get a Canon digital body, but I had hoped to put this off for another year or so. Better prices, better performance, etc, etc. I shoot a lot of outdoor sports (motocross and skydiving) where I need the exposure lattitude of neg film. I shoot a lot of film but don't have prints made, just the negs developed. The need for roll batch scanning is due to the limited time I have and the fact that I really only want to scan once. I tried scanning for index prints and then scanning at full res just the selected frames but that was too much trouble. Index prints from the lab were too small to be of any use. So, does anyone own both a D30 and a good 35mm scanner that could convince me that the D30 would better serve my purpose? 2) I could pick up the Canon APS body (Xi ?) and the APS adapter for the SS4000 and just settle for a little less negative. 95% of the sports prints I sell are 8x10 but I do like the ability of going to 12x18 on the frames that are just right. So, does anyone have experience with scanning both 35mm and APS on a SS4000 that would help me compare the quality difference? I uderstand that this will be subjective unless you have used the same lens with both formats, and I beleive the Canon is the only APS that takes traditional SLR glass?? 3) Are there any other good film scanners which allow full roll scanning? I am aware of the Nikon and the Kodak. Both are not really attractive to me except for their roll scanning ability, and I would hate to give up the quality I am getting from the SS4000. But if I have to compromise then this may be the safest way to go. Anyone used both the Nikon and the SS4000 or maybe the Kodak and the SS4000 who could list some plus and minus points for each? The biggest plus on the Polaroid was it's low price for the available resolution. 4) Are any of you using a mail order lab that can develope and scan without a print order? The scans should be good enough for 8x12 (~1600x2400) but I can scan anyting I need higher res. on. The cost is a factor though. A local lab wants $18 US a roll to do this for me, which is more than I can justify. I currently pay $1.50 per roll for developing only, so I'm spoiled somewhat. On mailing issue - are they still suggesting not to mail film for fear of it being x-ray or otherwise damaged? 5) here's the looney question of the day. Would it be remotely possible for someone with the tools and skills to hack/modify/reconfigure the SS4000 APS adapter to work with 35mm film? I have no idea how the adapter works or have I even seen one, so be nice. ; ) With the number of units out there, could this be a aftermarket opportunity? I would easily spend my $200 rebate or more for the ability to scan rolls at a time. TIA for any input. Other suggestions welcomed too. You may want to reply off-list if concerning the non-scanner items, and I only have a chance to read the list once a day right now. James Hill Freelance Photographer Mebane, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe filmscanners' or 'unsubscribe filmscanners_digest' (as appropriate) in the message title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000 dust streaks
Dear folks, My scans have recently been having linear streaks in the direction of the scan. The problem is more or less intermittent, with the preponderance of the behavior being in favor of the streaks. There is no evidence of streaking on the original materials, and in any event, the streaking has occurred with so many rolls of film that it can hardly be anything else than dust in the scanner. Plus, the "latitude" of the streaks varies over time. (Meaning the position.) The Polaroid website is singularly discouraging and unhelpful. They suggest: - Check for and remove any objects in the calibration window. Objects? Like what, baseballs? Keyrings? Next, they say: - The bulb is not user accessible. There is not much one can do to clean or replace the bulb. Call Polaroid Technical Support at 800-432-5355 to get your scanner repaired. I called tech support and asked them what the average charge for service was. They said $400 to $600. This to blow out a piece of dust. Maybe two pieces. Finally, the website says: There is a misconception that blowing canned air into the scanner will help clean parts in the optical path and the CCD. This is not true, the CCD in most of the SprintScan scanners is sealed inside the unit and is not accessible. It is important that the areas of the scanner you can reach are clean, but for this a q-tip or dust free cloth is more effective. I don't want to clean the CCD per se. I want to clean whatever needs to be cleaned. What "areas" might be cleaned? Has anyone had experience with this problem? Thanks and best regards, Pat Cullinan, Jr. . Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000 on XP
I've got my SS4000 installed and running under XP. The problem I'm having is that on startup the New Hardware Wizard keeps detecting it as new hardware and asking me to install drivers for it. If I just cancel the Wizard everything works fine, but it's a PITA to have to do that every time I start my machine. Does anyone have a suggestion for dealing with this? Paul http://www.chefurka.com Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000
First of all best wishes and prosperity in the New Year for all fellows and your families. That's might sound funny, but if someone would like to part with his/her SS4000 (given it is in good shape and fully operational) I would be glad helping you to get rid of one. (especially from European users, however overseas are an option as well) Given the scanner's reputation I realize that my desire might sound stupid, however if someone moving up to MF or digital... :-) Regards, Alex Z Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000 / LS30 dirt examples
Hi Can anyone show the difference between how the SS4000 handles dirty film and the LS30 without ICE. I am considering purchasing the SS4000, but I may hold on to my LS30 for ICE incase of having to scan a dirty image etc. Regards Philip Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000
Hello, I am almost in position to buy the Polaroid but the sites I've looked at don't have them. Any of you know where I can get one? Thanks, Denise [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.310 / Virus Database: 171 - Release Date: 12/19/01 -- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body
[filmscanners] RE: filmscanners: SS4000 Rebate UPC
I got my check in the mail today. Great job David P.S. Even without the rebate, it's a GREAT scanner. I've been very pleased with it. At 03:42 PM 12/22/01 -0500, you wrote: >They are currently being processed and you should start receiving checks any >day now. >After the chapter 11 filing all the P.O. 's covering this program had to be >reissued as allowed by the court. That procedure took some time but now is >the complete and the funding is in the hands of the company issuing the >rebate. >David > > -Original Message- >From: JackG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 9:26 AM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:[filmscanners] Re: filmscanners: SS4000 Rebate UPC > >Nope, sent mine in about the same time. > >John in OKC >- Original Message - >From: "Andy Darlow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 1:19 AM >Subject: [filmscanners] Re: filmscanners: SS4000 Rebate UPC > > >Hello: > >Has anyone recieved their $200 rebate from SS4000 purchases? > >Mine was purchased in Early September and the rebate form went out soon >after. > >I'm still waiting patiently, > >Thanks, > >Andy Darlow Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body
[filmscanners] SS4000: Polacolor Insight Lamp Auto-Off feature not working
Even after the latet Polacolor Insight upgrade, the lamp shut off feature still doesn't seem to work. Does anyone know any special secrets about this? David, any suggestions? Stan Schwartz Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body
[filmscanners] RE: filmscanners: SS4000 Rebate UPC
They are currently being processed and you should start receiving checks any day now. After the chapter 11 filing all the P.O. 's covering this program had to be reissued as allowed by the court. That procedure took some time but now is the complete and the funding is in the hands of the company issuing the rebate. David -Original Message- From: JackG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 9:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:[filmscanners] Re: filmscanners: SS4000 Rebate UPC Nope, sent mine in about the same time. John in OKC - Original Message - From: "Andy Darlow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 1:19 AM Subject: [filmscanners] Re: filmscanners: SS4000 Rebate UPC Hello: Has anyone recieved their $200 rebate from SS4000 purchases? Mine was purchased in Early September and the rebate form went out soon after. I'm still waiting patiently, Thanks, Andy Darlow --- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body --- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body --- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body
[filmscanners] Re: filmscanners: SS4000 Rebate UPC
Nope, sent mine in about the same time. John in OKC - Original Message - From: "Andy Darlow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 1:19 AM Subject: [filmscanners] Re: filmscanners: SS4000 Rebate UPC Hello: Has anyone recieved their $200 rebate from SS4000 purchases? Mine was purchased in Early September and the rebate form went out soon after. I'm still waiting patiently, Thanks, Andy Darlow --- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body --- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body
[filmscanners] Re: filmscanners: SS4000 Rebate UPC
Still waiting here too. Tom - Original Message - From: "Andy Darlow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2001 1:19 AM Subject: [filmscanners] Re: filmscanners: SS4000 Rebate UPC Hello: Has anyone recieved their $200 rebate from SS4000 purchases? Mine was purchased in Early September and the rebate form went out soon after. I'm still waiting patiently, Thanks, Andy Darlow --- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body --- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body
[filmscanners] Re: filmscanners: SS4000 Rebate UPC
I'm still waiting. Sent in the paperwork in the first week of Sept. Salutations, David Lewiston - Original Message - From: "Andy Darlow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, December 21, 2001 9:19 PM Subject: [filmscanners] Re: filmscanners: SS4000 Rebate UPC Hello: Has anyone recieved their $200 rebate from SS4000 purchases? Mine was purchased in Early September and the rebate form went out soon after. I'm still waiting patiently, Thanks, Andy Darlow --- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body --- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body
[filmscanners] Re: filmscanners: SS4000 Rebate UPC
Hello: Has anyone recieved their $200 rebate from SS4000 purchases? Mine was purchased in Early September and the rebate form went out soon after. I'm still waiting patiently, Thanks, Andy Darlow --- Unsubscribe by mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED], with 'unsubscribe' in the title or body
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 Problem
No special cleaning. The 120 sensor should not have the same problem, I am told. David -Original Message- From: Jeff Spirer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 6:11 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 Problem At 12:16 PM 11/12/01, Hemingway, David J wrote: >If the carrier seemed to be constantly seeking you may have dirt in the >sensor. There is a brush assembly that you can request, free, from Polaroid >support. >David This brings up something I have wondered about since I recently got my SS120. There isn't a word about cleaning in the manual. Are there any standard maintenance procedures that should be followed? Is the same brush assembly available for the SS120? > -Original Message- >From: Stewart Musket [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:51 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:filmscanners: SS4000 Problem > >I have been using the SS4000 successfully for two years. However, last >night I turned on the scanner and the flashing yellow light never became >steady. I tried rebooting, reseating the SCSI connectors, and several other >things, but with no result. I would appreciate the advice of knowledgeable >SS4000 users. > >Stewart Musket Jeff Spirer Photos: http://www.spirer.com One People: http://www.onepeople.com/
RE: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 Problem
It has been included for a few months. David -Original Message- From: Rob Geraghty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 5:55 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 Problem David wrote: >If the carrier seemed to be constantly seeking you may have dirt in the >sensor. There is a brush assembly that you can request, free, from Polaroid >support. David, maybe this is a dumb suggestion but why not add the brush to the standard kit for the scanner? Rob Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wordweb.com
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 Problem
At 12:16 PM 11/12/01, Hemingway, David J wrote: >If the carrier seemed to be constantly seeking you may have dirt in the >sensor. There is a brush assembly that you can request, free, from Polaroid >support. >David This brings up something I have wondered about since I recently got my SS120. There isn't a word about cleaning in the manual. Are there any standard maintenance procedures that should be followed? Is the same brush assembly available for the SS120? > -Original Message- >From: Stewart Musket [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:51 PM >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject:filmscanners: SS4000 Problem > >I have been using the SS4000 successfully for two years. However, last >night I turned on the scanner and the flashing yellow light never became >steady. I tried rebooting, reseating the SCSI connectors, and several other >things, but with no result. I would appreciate the advice of knowledgeable >SS4000 users. > >Stewart Musket Jeff Spirer Photos: http://www.spirer.com One People: http://www.onepeople.com/
filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 Problem
David wrote: >If the carrier seemed to be constantly seeking you may have dirt in the >sensor. There is a brush assembly that you can request, free, from Polaroid >support. David, maybe this is a dumb suggestion but why not add the brush to the standard kit for the scanner? Rob Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wordweb.com
filmscanners: Re: filmscanners: SS4000 Problem
Tom wrote: >Happened to me too. Call Polaroid and ask for the free cleaning kit. >They'll send you a little brush gadget that attaches to your slide carrier. >Follow the instructions. For 'most' people, that fixes the problem. If the brush doesn't work, you can also try blowing the dust out of the sensor with compressed air - but check whether opening the case of the scanner voids the warranty. If the scanner is under warranty and the brush doesn't work, the best option may be a warranty repair. Rob Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wordweb.com
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 Problem
If the carrier seemed to be constantly seeking you may have dirt in the sensor. There is a brush assembly that you can request, free, from Polaroid support. David -Original Message- From: Stewart Musket [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 1:51 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:filmscanners: SS4000 Problem I have been using the SS4000 successfully for two years. However, last night I turned on the scanner and the flashing yellow light never became steady. I tried rebooting, reseating the SCSI connectors, and several other things, but with no result. I would appreciate the advice of knowledgeable SS4000 users. Stewart Musket
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 Problem
Ah, the dreaded dirty scanner problem. Happened to me too. Call Polaroid and ask for the free cleaning kit. They'll send you a little brush gadget that attaches to your slide carrier. Follow the instructions. For 'most' people, that fixes the problem. For me, it didn't, and I had to send it in for warranty repair. One suggestion: Always keep it covered! Dust is the enemy of an SS4000 Tom - Original Message - From: "Stewart Musket" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 12, 2001 12:51 PM Subject: filmscanners: SS4000 Problem > I have been using the SS4000 successfully for two years. However, last > night I turned on the scanner and the flashing yellow light never became > steady. I tried rebooting, reseating the SCSI connectors, and several other > things, but with no result. I would appreciate the advice of knowledgeable > SS4000 users. > > Stewart Musket >
filmscanners: SS4000 Problem
I have been using the SS4000 successfully for two years. However, last night I turned on the scanner and the flashing yellow light never became steady. I tried rebooting, reseating the SCSI connectors, and several other things, but with no result. I would appreciate the advice of knowledgeable SS4000 users. Stewart Musket
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question.
They formerly did, but no more. David -Original Message- From: Gerry Kaslowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 3:39 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question. I thought theat they all came with a card. Mine did. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hill James Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question. I received my new SS4000 scanner today which did not come with a SCSI card. I currently have a Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI SCSI Controler, but it has a different type of connector - a small 60 pin with spring clips on both sides. It is hooked to an old HP ScanJet 5p. Is there likely to be an adapter which I could put between the supplied cable and the old connector, or should I buy a new card? I'd like to keep the HP working for rare print scans. TIA James Hill Freelance Photographer Mebane, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 - Insight too hot?
> You can still (and should) tag the image with the monitor profile > after all > it is the profile being used when you edit the image. Once the image opens > in Photoshop you simply allow conversion to your preferred colour space. > This is the method suggested by Polaroid in their web based help files and > Knowledgebase. Ian - sorry, I'm being a bit dense here, are you suggesting that you tag the scans with the monitor profile, then convert it to say, Adobe RGB, when looking at in in Photoshop? does this apply to all scanner programmes ? paul
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question.
- Original Message - From: "bob geoghegan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > James, > Go for an adapter. Buying them locally is best so nothing gets > confused (male/female, type of connector, etc) and you can return it if > things still don't come out right. Are you sure it's 60 pins? High > density 50 pin is common. Ha! If I'm going to ask for help I should probably get the numbers right. I have a HD 50 pin card (not 60) and I was able to get a cable with the needed connectors. Thanks to all who offered help. I'm sure I'll have a few more things to pick your brains about in the coming days. The first scans are a little less than ideal. Thanks again. James Hill Freelance Photographer Mebane, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question.
Having used SCSI for many years, I can tell you that there have been many different plugs and cables designed along the way. I have a good number of adapters and cables and pick them up whenever they are on special locally (usually in the "specials" bin because that store is no longer supporting SCSI devices). This is occurring more since SCSI is losing its stranglehold on fast interfaces with the advent of firewire and USB v.2. Unfortunately, if you are living in an area where SCSI is a rare species, (as it is where I am) your best bet is often to go to a Mac dealer, as they might still have some in stock, in spite of Apple having replaced SCSI with Firewire. Of course, you may pay a premium for shopping in a Mac environment. Some of these cables can be overpriced to the point where sometimes you can find a card with the adapter you need for less than the cost of the darn adapter cables. Art Hemingway, David J wrote: > James, > I think the 7850is the number of the core chip used on the board, not the > name of the card itself. SCSI cards have come with Centronics 50 Pin, DB25 > Pin, HD50 Pin and HD 68 Pin connectors. You can purchase adapters and > adapter cables on Adaptec's web site or locally. There is probably no need > to purchase another card unless it is a proprietary version made for a > specific device. > David > > -Original Message- > From:Hill James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent:Monday, October 29, 2001 2:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question. > > I received my new SS4000 scanner today which did not come with a SCSI card. > I currently have a Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI SCSI Controler, but it has a > different type of connector - a small 60 pin with spring clips on both > sides. It is hooked to an old HP ScanJet 5p. Is there likely to be an > adapter which I could put between the supplied cable and the old connector, > or should I buy a new card? I'd like to keep the HP working for rare print > scans. > > TIA > > James Hill > Freelance Photographer > Mebane, NC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > . > >
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question.
2001-10-29-15:37:06 Hemingway, David J: > SCSI cards have come with Centronics 50 Pin, DB25 > Pin, HD50 Pin and HD 68 Pin connectors. You can purchase adapters and > adapter cables on Adaptec's web site or locally. A US vendor I've had good luck with over the years for SCSI stuff is: http://www.hypermicro.com/store/index.htm
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question.
James, Go for an adapter. Buying them locally is best so nothing gets confused (male/female, type of connector, etc) and you can return it if things still don't come out right. Are you sure it's 60 pins? High density 50 pin is common. I'd go from the SCSI card to the SS4000 then to the HP. The SS4000 has a switch for termination. So if you unplugged the HP it would be easy to keep the SCSI chain terminated. Hope this helps, Bob G At 02:13 PM 10/29/2001, you wrote: >I received my new SS4000 scanner today which did not come with a SCSI card. >I currently have a Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI SCSI Controler, but it has a >different type of connector - a small 60 pin with spring clips on both >sides. It is hooked to an old HP ScanJet 5p. Is there likely to be an >adapter which I could put between the supplied cable and the old connector, >or should I buy a new card? I'd like to keep the HP working for rare print >scans. > >TIA > >James Hill >Freelance Photographer >Mebane, NC >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question.
I thought theat they all came with a card. Mine did. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Hill James Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 11:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question. I received my new SS4000 scanner today which did not come with a SCSI card. I currently have a Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI SCSI Controler, but it has a different type of connector - a small 60 pin with spring clips on both sides. It is hooked to an old HP ScanJet 5p. Is there likely to be an adapter which I could put between the supplied cable and the old connector, or should I buy a new card? I'd like to keep the HP working for rare print scans. TIA James Hill Freelance Photographer Mebane, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question.
If you call Polaroid tech support they may ship one to you. I have received mixed signals regarding whether we are still shipping them. David -Original Message- From: Hill James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 2:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question. I received my new SS4000 scanner today which did not come with a SCSI card. I currently have a Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI SCSI Controler, but it has a different type of connector - a small 60 pin with spring clips on both sides. It is hooked to an old HP ScanJet 5p. Is there likely to be an adapter which I could put between the supplied cable and the old connector, or should I buy a new card? I'd like to keep the HP working for rare print scans. TIA James Hill Freelance Photographer Mebane, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question.
James, I think the 7850is the number of the core chip used on the board, not the name of the card itself. SCSI cards have come with Centronics 50 Pin, DB25 Pin, HD50 Pin and HD 68 Pin connectors. You can purchase adapters and adapter cables on Adaptec's web site or locally. There is probably no need to purchase another card unless it is a proprietary version made for a specific device. David -Original Message- From: Hill James [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, October 29, 2001 2:14 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question. I received my new SS4000 scanner today which did not come with a SCSI card. I currently have a Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI SCSI Controler, but it has a different type of connector - a small 60 pin with spring clips on both sides. It is hooked to an old HP ScanJet 5p. Is there likely to be an adapter which I could put between the supplied cable and the old connector, or should I buy a new card? I'd like to keep the HP working for rare print scans. TIA James Hill Freelance Photographer Mebane, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 - Insight too hot?
Dave, > Am I correct the primary improvement is the addition of film terms? They provided a large number of profiles as part of the package, but the primary benefit would be the significantly improved negative scanning tools. they are much easier to sue and allow a greater degree of fine tuning than the previous method. The old and new are as different as chalk and cheese :-) > Well I think it is based on the monitor profile, except the file comes > in as untagged. It seems Insight's curves controls aren't accessable > unless set up this way. You can still (and should) tag the image with the monitor profile after all it is the profile being used when you edit the image. Once the image opens in Photoshop you simply allow conversion to your preferred colour space. This is the method suggested by Polaroid in their web based help files and Knowledgebase. > My monitor profile is PhotoCal/Spyder, but > the profile may be wonky because I'm using a slightly wonky method to > get around the fact my monitor doesn't have individually adjustable > guns. Time for a better monitor perhaps:) I'll take no responsibility for spending your hard earned :-) I've spent enough for your over this past couple of years :-) > I'll try again with my > working space selected and forego Insight curves and see if that > helps. That is of course an alternative but is also to some extent an con :-) > > BTW, I've been discovering the value in the hue/sat controls when > correcting raw scans. It seems to me that without a good film term > the individual RGB curves can be so wonky as to be near impossible to > correct using just curves. What's your take on this Ian?? Insight has a VERY powerful but slow colour analysis algorithm in IQA (some companies would die for the technology). I rarely use Insight, but when I do I ALWAYS ignore curves. Ian Lyons http://www.computer-darkroom.com
filmscanners: SS4000 SCSI question.
I received my new SS4000 scanner today which did not come with a SCSI card. I currently have a Adaptec AIC-7850 PCI SCSI Controler, but it has a different type of connector - a small 60 pin with spring clips on both sides. It is hooked to an old HP ScanJet 5p. Is there likely to be an adapter which I could put between the supplied cable and the old connector, or should I buy a new card? I'd like to keep the HP working for rare print scans. TIA James Hill Freelance Photographer Mebane, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 - Insight too hot?
> >> I'm using the 4000 for the first time since an initial test to make > >> sure it worked properly. I've been trying Insight, Vuescan and > >> Silverfast 5.1 ai on a Win 98 box. So far all my scans are color > >> negs. > > You should try Version 5.5 if scanning negatives. It is a LOT better. You > can download a demo and check it out yourself. Am I correct the primary improvement is the addition of film terms? > >> Anyway, I'm posting to get others impressions about something I'm been > >> seeing with Insight - too much saturation, a "hot" rendition of > >> anything I scan. May look good to some, but it ain't "accurate" - > >> kind of a Velvia view on everything. Is there something I can do to > >> "flatten" the image going in? I prefer to build up contrast and > >> saturation in Photoshop as needed instead of the other way round. > > > That is unusual. Is this occurring in the preview or only the scan? Check > which profile you are using as the basis for your preview display. If based > upon your own monitor profile it might be that there is something not quite > right with it Well I think it is based on the monitor profile, except the file comes in as untagged. It seems Insight's curves controls aren't accessable unless set up this way. My monitor profile is PhotoCal/Spyder, but the profile may be wonky because I'm using a slightly wonky method to get around the fact my monitor doesn't have individually adjustable guns. Time for a better monitor perhaps:) I'll try again with my working space selected and forego Insight curves and see if that helps. BTW, I've been discovering the value in the hue/sat controls when correcting raw scans. It seems to me that without a good film term the individual RGB curves can be so wonky as to be near impossible to correct using just curves. What's your take on this Ian?? Thanks, Dave > > Ian Lyons
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 - Insight too hot?
Dave, >> I'm using the 4000 for the first time since an initial test to make >> sure it worked properly. I've been trying Insight, Vuescan and >> Silverfast 5.1 ai on a Win 98 box. So far all my scans are color >> negs. You should try Version 5.5 if scanning negatives. It is a LOT better. You can download a demo and check it out yourself. >> Anyway, I'm posting to get others impressions about something I'm been >> seeing with Insight - too much saturation, a "hot" rendition of >> anything I scan. May look good to some, but it ain't "accurate" - >> kind of a Velvia view on everything. Is there something I can do to >> "flatten" the image going in? I prefer to build up contrast and >> saturation in Photoshop as needed instead of the other way round. That is unusual. Is this occurring in the preview or only the scan? Check which profile you are using as the basis for your preview display. If based upon your own monitor profile it might be that there is something not quite right with it Ian Lyons http://www.computer-darkroom.com
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 - Insight too hot?
If you want to scan color negatives, you really need to upgrade Silverfast to 5.5 as its NegaFix film profile feature is a big improvement. Â Silverfast will output high-bit (48-bit) files, but it's a raw output. Â You have to do all processing on that file with Silverfast HDR, Photoshop, or something similar. Â If you can get Insight to work for you, and are eventually happy with the results, then the complications of the Silverfast interface may be something you won't have to deal with. In a message dated 10/28/2001 1:10:35 PM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: don't really like the Silverfast interface - too many gizmos, and the one scan I tried so far wasn't encouraging. Â If Silverfast would simplify the interface and allow ai to output hi-bit I would be more interested. Â As it is, I don't think I'm going to be using it unless it works better for chromes.
filmscanners: SS4000 - Insight too hot?
I'm using the 4000 for the first time since an initial test to make sure it worked properly. I've been trying Insight, Vuescan and Silverfast 5.1 ai on a Win 98 box. So far all my scans are color negs. I don't really like the Silverfast interface - too many gizmos, and the one scan I tried so far wasn't encouraging. If Silverfast would simplify the interface and allow ai to output hi-bit I would be more interested. As it is, I don't think I'm going to be using it unless it works better for chromes. Anyway, I'm posting to get others impressions about something I'm been seeing with Insight - too much saturation, a "hot" rendition of anything I scan. May look good to some, but it ain't "accurate" - kind of a Velvia view on everything. Is there something I can do to "flatten" the image going in? I prefer to build up contrast and saturation in Photoshop as needed instead of the other way round. BTW, Vuescan is working very well, no complaints there. Just wondering if I can get up to speed with Insight too. Thanks, Dave King
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 rebate, valid other places?
The coupon is at Polaroid: http://www.polaroidwork.com/media/demosanddownloadables/downloadablefiles/pd f/us_en_coupon_ss4000_rebate_1231_1f91c.pdf That's going to wrap, so cut and paste it. Tom > The coupon at Ecost.com and pcmall seems like it is generic. Can I buy it > from, say Cameraworld.com and use the same coupon? No other place has the > rebate coupon. > > evrim
filmscanners: SS4000 rebate, valid other places?
The coupon at Ecost.com and pcmall seems like it is generic. Can I buy it from, say Cameraworld.com and use the same coupon? No other place has the rebate coupon. evrim
Re: filmscanners: SS4000
Thanks David, I can hardly wait to fire my scanner up. "Hemingway, David J" wrote: > Andrew, > The scanner works fine on ME. I use it on ME myself frequently. > Most any inexpensive SCSI card that runs on ME will do. I would expect you > would not have to pay more than $60. > David >
RE: filmscanners: SS4000
Andrew, The scanner works fine on ME. I use it on ME myself frequently. Most any inexpensive SCSI card that runs on ME will do. I would expect you would not have to pay more than $60. David -Original Message- From: Andrew G. Martelon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2001 9:26 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:filmscanners: SS4000 For the list's information, I ordered the SS4000 on 9/20/01 from ecost for $699.99. After rebate price ( if and when received) 500 bucks. I really wanted a MF scanner, as I currently shoot both 35mm and 6 x 7. I thought this would get me a jump on thousands of slides I have accumulated for 30 years while deciding between the Minolta, Nikon, or Polaroid MF scanner. This "backordered" item was received today. It did not come with a SCSI card, so I must assume Polaroid has "run out" of the adapters they were including. I have a PC and need a SCSI adapter for this scanner. I'm running a Pentium 4 with 1G of RAM and Windows ME. Does this scanner run on ME? I don't currently run any SCSI devices. Any suggestions on which SCSI card I should purchase, in light of the fact that I will purchase a MF scanner soon, which may or may not have a SCSI interface, will run on the same system? Any help would be much appreciated
filmscanners: SS4000
For the list's information, I ordered the SS4000 on 9/20/01 from ecost for $699.99. After rebate price ( if and when received) 500 bucks. I really wanted a MF scanner, as I currently shoot both 35mm and 6 x 7. I thought this would get me a jump on thousands of slides I have accumulated for 30 years while deciding between the Minolta, Nikon, or Polaroid MF scanner. This "backordered" item was received today. It did not come with a SCSI card, so I must assume Polaroid has "run out" of the adapters they were including. I have a PC and need a SCSI adapter for this scanner. I'm running a Pentium 4 with 1G of RAM and Windows ME. Does this scanner run on ME? I don't currently run any SCSI devices. Any suggestions on which SCSI card I should purchase, in light of the fact that I will purchase a MF scanner soon, which may or may not have a SCSI interface, will run on the same system? Any help would be much appreciated
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 comments
> - The SS4000 SCSI connectors are two different types: one DB-25 and one > Centronics (and odd combination). The DB25 is a Mac standard for external SCSI connections...and the Centronics type is a typical SCSI I connection. Not really odd, but definitely old technology.
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 comments
One size fits all -Original Message- From: James Hill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, September 23, 2001 12:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: filmscanners: SS4000 comments Thanks for the info Wire. I have a question about the different platforms for this scanner. I ran across a site with prices very close to the ecost price, but the description read for MACs - no mention of PCs. Are there two different versions of this scanner or is the only difference in the installed software? (David??) I just unloaded my S20 and will be ordering the SS4000, I just want to be sure I get the right package. I am on PC system. Thanks in advance. James Hill Freelance Photographer Mebane, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Wire Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:36 PM Subject: filmscanners: SS4000 comments > Just got a SS4000 to replace an LS-2000. After a day of use I find the > SS4000 is not as convenient as the LS-2000, but the scans are first rate! A > significant improvement over the LS-2000. Here are some observations:
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 comments
Wire wrote an excellent comparison of the SS4000 and LS-2000. Â Objective and unbiased. Â The SS4000 is indeed a fine scanner. A week or so ago someone asked if they should order any extra film carriers for the SS4000. Â I responded that I didn't think it was necessary. Â I said that one of the plastic springs that hold a slide in place on the slide carrier had cracked, but that I thought it was a manufacturing flaw and not a design flaw. Â Now I'm not so sure that my advice was correct as I've had a second spring crack. Â Both were on the same carrier. Â I haven't used the new replacement slide carrier that Polaroid sent me under warranty, so maybe it's OK and the slide carrier I'm having problems with as a defect that affects all of the plastic springs. Â I'd advise anyone using the slide carrier to note the "springiness" of the plastic slide retaining arms. Â If any seem to lose their springiness with use, then check it for a fine crack. Â If so, then get a free warranty replacement from Polaroid and consider buying one or two spares. Â Maybe this really is! n't an issue at all and I have the only slide carrier ever manufactured with this problem. Â But it's worth being aware of a potential problem. In a message dated 9/23/2001 4:33:38 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mike, They are flimsy, but seem tougher than you think. Â Mine have never broken. You do want a second one, though -- in fact, I'd recommend it to everyone with a SS4000. Â That way you can be scanning one strip while loading the other. Â Really speeds up scanning. Tom From: "Mike Stephens" > They are one in the same. Â Both versions of the software > are included on the disk(s). Â Just received mine yesterday, > and the bundle has it all (even includes three different > power cords - US, UK, and generic European plugs!). > Wire mentioned that the film/slide holders are flimsy - > the slide holder seems OK, but the film holder is > awkward and flimsy enough that I ordered a spare. > > Mike >
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 comments
Wire Moore wrote: > > Just got a SS4000 to replace an LS-2000. After a day of use I find the > SS4000 is not as convenient as the LS-2000, but the scans are first rate! A > significant improvement over the LS-2000. Here are some observations: > That was a great review and very valuable. Thanks for taking the time and energy to provide it to us. I honestly think that's one of the best and most comprehensive comparisons I've read on those two models. Too bad it took until the SS4000 is being upgraded to happen! Your comments seem very fair, balanced, and without bias, and I really appreciate your having done this. Art
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 comments
Mike, They are flimsy, but seem tougher than you think. Mine have never broken. You do want a second one, though -- in fact, I'd recommend it to everyone with a SS4000. That way you can be scanning one strip while loading the other. Really speeds up scanning. Tom From: "Mike Stephens" > They are one in the same. Both versions of the software > are included on the disk(s). Just received mine yesterday, > and the bundle has it all (even includes three different > power cords - US, UK, and generic European plugs!). > Wire mentioned that the film/slide holders are flimsy - > the slide holder seems OK, but the film holder is > awkward and flimsy enough that I ordered a spare. > > Mike >
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 comments
They are one in the same. Both versions of the software are included on the disk(s). Just received mine yesterday, and the bundle has it all (even includes three different power cords - US, UK, and generic European plugs!). Wire mentioned that the film/slide holders are flimsy - the slide holder seems OK, but the film holder is awkward and flimsy enough that I ordered a spare. Mike > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Hill > Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:01 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000 comments > > > Thanks for the info Wire. > > I have a question about the different platforms for this > scanner. I ran > across a site with prices very close to the ecost price, but > the description > read for MACs - no mention of PCs. Are there two different > versions of this > scanner or is the only difference in the installed software? > (David??) I > just unloaded my S20 and will be ordering the SS4000, I just > want to be sure > I get the right package. I am on PC system. > > Thanks in advance. > > James Hill > Freelance Photographer > Mebane, NC > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 comments
Thanks for the info Wire. I have a question about the different platforms for this scanner. I ran across a site with prices very close to the ecost price, but the description read for MACs - no mention of PCs. Are there two different versions of this scanner or is the only difference in the installed software? (David??) I just unloaded my S20 and will be ordering the SS4000, I just want to be sure I get the right package. I am on PC system. Thanks in advance. James Hill Freelance Photographer Mebane, NC [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Wire Moore" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:36 PM Subject: filmscanners: SS4000 comments > Just got a SS4000 to replace an LS-2000. After a day of use I find the > SS4000 is not as convenient as the LS-2000, but the scans are first rate! A > significant improvement over the LS-2000. Here are some observations:
filmscanners: SS4000 comments
Just got a SS4000 to replace an LS-2000. After a day of use I find the SS4000 is not as convenient as the LS-2000, but the scans are first rate! A significant improvement over the LS-2000. Here are some observations: - Got the unit from Micro Warehouse which charged US$100.00 more than eCost, and took 10 days to deliver for $28.00. My cost will be US $581.00 after rebate and including shipping. The LS-2000 was US $1700.00 when I bought it in 1998. Micro Warehouse policy is there is a 15% restocking fee and no return of open items. They refer open items directly to the manufacturer for warrantee. At the point I decided to order, eCost had run out of stock. I didn't grok Micro Warehouse's return policy until after I ordered. eCost has since come back with a good price in stock. Drat. I haven't tried asking Micro Warehouse to price match as their written policy shows total disinterest in this sort of customer concern. I recommend you try elsewhere first. (I'm done with my gripe session, now on to the scanner.) - No edge focus issues like the LS0-2000 etc.; the SS4000 is sharp all across the frame. - SS4000 shows very much less grain than the LS-2000, allowing use of much more unsharp mask. - SS4000 shadow performance exceeds the LS-2000 with 16x multi sampling. Results are very good! - SS4000 histograms are a tad compressed, unlike the LS-2000, but corrects beautifully; superior exposure performance in spite of the Nikon's analogue gain control (which was a very mixed bag). No problem with highlights blowing out to get shadows. - SS4000 color exceeds the LS-2000 in my opinion. SS4000 is a little trickier to get good color saturation as compared to the LS-2000. But the LS-2000 did very funky color for some reds, even when carefully color managed. As I gain experience with the SS4000 software, I am finding minor Photoshop levels and curves tweaks are all that's required for gorgeous color. An Oversight when choosing this film type in Polacolor Insight had me worried about the quality of the unit for a moment. I'm scanning Kodak Elite Chrome (a variation of Ektacrhome 100). The Polacolor "Color Slide" film setting is given good results. - Dust is more of a problem for the SS4000 than the LS-2000 w/ICE, but the LS-2000 wasn't perfect, even with ICE. Cleaning the film with a soft cloth and canned air is effective for the SS4000. - The SS4000 is physically faster than the Nikon, but SW processing takes longer. Scans are quicker overall, even thought the SS4000 is 4000spi and the LS-2000 is 2700. The SS4000 is much faster overall when compared to the LS-2000 16x multisampling. - The SS4000 SCSI connectors are two different types: one DB-25 and one Centronics (and odd combination). The LS-2000 was a pair of SCSI-3 narrow connectors, so I had to change cables. The SS4000 works fine in my long SCSI chain (replacing the LS-2000). At first start after installation, the SS4000 logical device didn't appear on the chain, even after using SCSIProbe utility to force a bus reset, but this problem went away after I power-cycled the other devices on the chain. - The SS4000 film holders are quirky, but usable. The Nikon HW is much easier to use. - 8 inches of clearance is required behind the SS4000 because the film holder moves through the unit like a pipe, coming out the back. - Polacolor Insight and Silerfast AI software are harder to use than Nikon Scan and graceless in comparison. NikonScan V2.5.1 on Mac is the peak of effective and attractive UI design IMHO. I miss it. A new user will find Silverfast AI hopelessly daunting. Partly because the UI is designed for a pre-press user and partly because pre-press users expect a bunch of stuff that's irrelevant in a digital darkroom environment, such as support for separations (CMYK). Both Polacolor Insight and Silverfast AI are giving nice looking scans with a slight quality advantage to Polacolor Insight, but likely only because I am still figuring out Silverfast. I haven't yet profiled the scanner using Silverfast or Monaco EZ Color, so no comments on this yet. Also haven't yet tried Vuescan yet. BTW--I'm not sure if the following means anything, but I'll mention it anyway: The IT8 calibration target that comes with Silverfast is different than the Kodak Q60E3. Whereas the Kodak has a picture of a woman's face for visual skin tone assessment, the Silverfast target has skin tone patches. I'm hoping this Silverfast IT8 is useful with Monaco EZ Color because the Q60E3 I've got is wilting. - Multitasking the computer with the SS4000 is an issue as compared to the LS-2000. Nikonscan 2.5.1 allowed normal response of the computer to other programs while scanning, at the price of slower scanning in the background. A nice trade-off. Polacolor Insight allows other work on the computer while scanning, but foreground performance gets choppy. Silverfast AI takes over the computer (Mac OS 9.2.1) so no other work can be done while scanning. This is a drag. - Both Silverfast AI
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 Plus/David
Matin, The SS4000 plus will be a 14 bit scanner with firewire and USB connectivity. We have had always dust & scratch removal in Insight which I would guess is about 80% as effective as ICE but then again with the patented light source we don't see as much dust. David -Original Message- From: Barbara & Martin Greene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 9:22 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: SS4000 Plus/David David Will the SS 4000 Plus have any improvement in dust and scratch removal? Martin
filmscanners: SS4000 Plus/David
David Will the SS 4000 Plus have any improvement in dust and scratch removal? Martin
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 options
You ordinarily get two strips--one for slides and one for a strip of negatives. You should not have to order and pay for these separately. Without them you film scanner is simply not able to do anything at all. --- Gregory Georges Really Useful Content, Inc. Chapel Hill, North Carolina www.reallyusefulpage.com Author of Digital Camera Solutions & 50 Digital Photo Techniques > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Stephen Kogge > Sent: Friday, September 07, 2001 1:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: filmscanners: SS4000 options > > > > With that incredible offer at ecost I too have one of the 80 SS4000s > that will arrive on Sept 15 on order. > > I have been looking at the SS4000 for a long time but could never > understand what the slide and strip options are. Are these "trays" not > included with a basic unit or are they really options or spare or what? > > > Thanks > > -- > Stephen N. Kogge > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://www.uimage.com > > >
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 options
It comes with one slide and one film strip holder. 4 slides at a time, 6 negs at a time. Make sure you buy a second one (of whichever one you use). Makes it much more useful. You can load one and scan one. Heck of a deal -- I paid $1400 about 16 months ago. I just bought a Nikon LS-4000, only because I wanted the roll film adapter, but the scans on the Polaroid are equal, if not a little better, than the Nikon. Maybe the new model is coming out and will have a roll film adatper ?? Tom > > With that incredible offer at ecost I too have one of the 80 SS4000s > that will arrive on Sept 15 on order. > > I have been looking at the SS4000 for a long time but could never > understand what the slide and strip options are. Are these "trays" not > included with a basic unit or are they really options or spare or what? > > > Thanks > > -- > Stephen N. Kogge
filmscanners: SS4000 options
With that incredible offer at ecost I too have one of the 80 SS4000s that will arrive on Sept 15 on order. I have been looking at the SS4000 for a long time but could never understand what the slide and strip options are. Are these "trays" not included with a basic unit or are they really options or spare or what? Thanks -- Stephen N. Kogge [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.uimage.com
Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 problem
In my case, neither worked, and it had to go back to Polaroid for the CCD to be replaced. Thankfully, under warranty. Keep the dust out! Tom > Andrzej wrote: > >Hi I'm using Polaroid SS4000. > >My scanner doesn't work, I hear running motor all the time, like on booting > >stage and nothing happens. Computer didn't see SCSI unit. What to do? Is > >there any hard reset button inside? Please help if you can. Thanks in > >advance. > > Exactly the same thing just happened to our SS4000 at work. There is a > sensor which detects whether a film carrier is in the scanner. Dust gets > in the sensor, blocking it, and the scanner is continuously trying to eject > a carrier which isn't there. Contact Polaroid for the brush which fits > the carrier and allows you to clean the sensor. In my case the brush didn't > work and I had to use canned air, but give the brush a try first. > > Rob > > > Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://wordweb.com > > >
filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 problem
Andrzej wrote: >Hi I'm using Polaroid SS4000. >My scanner doesn't work, I hear running motor all the time, like on booting >stage and nothing happens. Computer didn't see SCSI unit. What to do? Is >there any hard reset button inside? Please help if you can. Thanks in >advance. Exactly the same thing just happened to our SS4000 at work. There is a sensor which detects whether a film carrier is in the scanner. Dust gets in the sensor, blocking it, and the scanner is continuously trying to eject a carrier which isn't there. Contact Polaroid for the brush which fits the carrier and allows you to clean the sensor. In my case the brush didn't work and I had to use canned air, but give the brush a try first. Rob Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wordweb.com
filmscanners: SS4000 problem
Hi I'm using Polaroid SS4000. My scanner doesn't work, I hear running motor all the time, like on booting stage and nothing happens. Computer didn't see SCSI unit. What to do? Is there any hard reset button inside? Please help if you can. Thanks in advance. andrzej -- Andrzej Artymowicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 and brush
"David Gordon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So, although the brush does work - I have seen it fix "my" problem on a > friends machine, you may have more serious trouble. > Good luck opening the box but I think you may be sending it to Polaroid. Maybe, but it's worth at least giving cleaning a try before going to the hassle of sending the scanner back for repair - especially given that it is out of warranty. I just wish I had the chance to try it before it screwed up! Rob
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 and brush
Rob Geraghty [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote on Fri, 24 Aug 2001 11:01:16 +1000 >The scanner still cycles >continuously. Since it's three months out of warranty I'm going to try >opening the case and using a "normal" brush on the sensor. A year ago - before the brush was invented I had the same problem. I took the scanner to Polaroid UK who were really helpful because they know I am a professional photographer. They took the lid off and cleaned various bits, doing what we now know the brush does. Didn't work. We gave up after an hour and sent the unit to the service people who replace a circuit board. So, although the brush does work - I have seen it fix "my" problem on a friends machine, you may have more serious trouble. Good luck opening the box but I think you may be sending it to Polaroid. -- David Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
filmscanners: SS4000 and brush
The brush arrived today (blame Australia Post for taking an entire week to delivery it from Sydney - what a joke!). I've run it through the scanner numerous times as per the instructions. Actually the instructions say three times - when that was ineffective I tried it again. The scanner still cycles continuously. Since it's three months out of warranty I'm going to try opening the case and using a "normal" brush on the sensor. Rob (but first find a brush...) Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wordweb.com
Re: filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 cycles continuously -sensor problem?
Rob Geraghty [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote on Thu, 16 Aug 2001 14:47:29 +1000 > Polaroid in Sydney are send me a brush. > I hope it comes with instructions or at leas a diagram of where the sensor >is located! :) The brush fits onto the 35mm slide carrier which you then run through the scanner and out the back. Repeat three times. The instructions say do it monthly. -- David Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: filmscanners: SS4000 cycles continuously - sensor problem?
Rob Geraghty [[EMAIL PROTECTED]] wrote on Thu, 16 Aug 2001 12:47:22 +1000 >The scanner is cycling continuously as though >it is trying to initialise but can't. The brush will fix your problem - I 've seen it with my own eyes! Call Polaroid for one or ask someone here who might be close to wherever you are to borrow one. -- David Gordon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 cycles continuously - sensor problem?
I wrote: > Is the brush available in the land of Oz? I just answered my own question; Polaroid in Sydney are send me a brush. I hope it comes with instructions or at leas a diagram of where the sensor is located! :) Rob Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wordweb.com
filmscanners: RE: filmscanners: SS4000 cycles continuously - sensor problem?
David wrote: >It sounds like the dirty sensor. Call and get the brush. Thanks for writing back, David! What's probably not obvious from my email address is that I'm in Australia. Is the brush available in the land of Oz? Rob PS I couldn't find any mention of the sensor or brush on the Polaroid website or in the errata PDF for the SS4000. Is there any documentation describing where the sensor is located and how to clean it? Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wordweb.com
RE: filmscanners: SS4000 cycles continuously - sensor problem?
It sounds like the dirty sensor. Call and get the brush. David -Original Message- From: Rob Geraghty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2001 10:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: filmscanners: SS4000 cycles continuously - sensor problem? So much for trying the SS4000. The scanner is cycling continuously as though it is trying to initialise but can't. It never appears in the device list. If you try to feed in a film carrier, it spits it out. Is this characteristic of the problem with dust on the sensor which detects the carrier? If so, where is the sensor? Do I have to take the case apart to get at it - and more importantly will I void the warranty by doing so? I've looked through the front of the scanner but I can't see anything that is obviously a sensor in the carrier path. If this behaviour isn't typical of the sensor problem I guess we'll have to send it back for repair. :( Rob Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wordweb.com
filmscanners: SS4000 cycles continuously - sensor problem?
So much for trying the SS4000. The scanner is cycling continuously as though it is trying to initialise but can't. It never appears in the device list. If you try to feed in a film carrier, it spits it out. Is this characteristic of the problem with dust on the sensor which detects the carrier? If so, where is the sensor? Do I have to take the case apart to get at it - and more importantly will I void the warranty by doing so? I've looked through the front of the scanner but I can't see anything that is obviously a sensor in the carrier path. If this behaviour isn't typical of the sensor problem I guess we'll have to send it back for repair. :( Rob Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wordweb.com
filmscanners: SS4000 $879.99
Computers4Sure lists the SS4000 for $879.99. Ron
Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win2K disappears!
Sorry, it should have be Nikon LS-4000. At 05:03 PM 7/26/01 -0500, you wrote: >The SS4000 is, as far as I know, ONLY Firewire. The firewire controller does >show up on device manager and is deemed "running normally" and there is a >75 gig disk running off of it that seems >to run just fine. I may have SCSI disks on the system however but that >should not make a difference if the >other disk runs off firewire. For a while, everything was just fine, then >one day it disappeared and won't >show up as a new device to be installed under W2K. > >Thanks, >Steve > > > >At 12:27 AM 7/26/01 +0100, you wrote: >>On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:03:21 -0500 Steven N. Norvich >>([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: >> >> > Anyone have their scanner simply disappear (logically)? Device >>manager >> > says it is >> > not there and although hooked up to a fireware connection on my Dell >> > (not an installed card, >> > original installation), it is not discovered under new devices to be >> > installed. Got any ideas >> > about why or how to fix it? >> >>First off, I didn't know the SS4000 was available with a Firewire >>interface, I thought they were all SCSI. >> >>Second, does the Firewire (if it really is:) card show up OK in Device >>Mangler without conflicts? Do any other Firewire devices work off the card >>OK? >> >>If it is really SCSI, do you have the rear panel terminator switch set to >>'on', and what ID number is set? Do you have other devices on the same bus? >> >>Regards >> >>Tony Sleep >>http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + film scanner info >>& comparisons > >Best regards, >Steve > >Steve Norvich >Quentin Corners #114 >853 N. Quentin Road >Palatine, Illinois 60067-0711 > >http://www.underwaterphotos.com >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Best regards, Steve Steve Norvich Quentin Corners #114 853 N. Quentin Road Palatine, Illinois 60067-0711 http://www.underwaterphotos.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win2K disappears!
Have you tried using a different Firewire port on the computer and scanner? [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Steven N. Norvich) wrote: > The SS4000 is, as far as I know, ONLY Firewire. The firewire > controller does > show up on device manager and is deemed "running normally" and there is > a 75 gig disk running off of it that seems > to run just fine. I may have SCSI disks on the system however but that > should not make a difference if the > other disk runs off firewire. For a while, everything was just fine, > then one day it disappeared and won't > show up as a new device to be installed under W2K. > > Thanks, > Steve > > > > At 12:27 AM 7/26/01 +0100, you wrote: > >On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:03:21 -0500 Steven N. Norvich > >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > Anyone have their scanner simply disappear (logically)? > > > Device > >manager > > > says it is > > > not there and although hooked up to a fireware connection on my Dell > > > (not an installed card, > > > original installation), it is not discovered under new devices to be > > > installed. Got any ideas > > > about why or how to fix it? > > > >First off, I didn't know the SS4000 was available with a Firewire > >interface, I thought they were all SCSI. > > > >Second, does the Firewire (if it really is:) card show up OK in Device > >Mangler without conflicts? Do any other Firewire devices work off the > card > >OK? > > > >If it is really SCSI, do you have the rear panel terminator switch set > to > >'on', and what ID number is set? Do you have other devices on the same > bus? > > > >Regards > > > >Tony Sleep > >http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + film scanner > info > >& comparisons > > Best regards, > Steve > > Steve Norvich > Quentin Corners #114 > 853 N. Quentin Road > Palatine, Illinois 60067-0711 > > http://www.underwaterphotos.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >
Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win2K disappears!
--- "Steven N. Norvich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The SS4000 is, as far as I know, ONLY Firewire. Not sure if you just made a type but the SS4000 has only a SCSI interface. Robert __ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/
RE: filmscanners: SS4000, Win2K disappears!
The Sprintscan 4 is SCSI only. The SS120 is firewire and SCSI. David > -Original Message- > From: Steven N. Norvich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2001 6:03 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win2K disappears! > > > The SS4000 is, as far as I know, ONLY Firewire. The firewire > controller does > show up on device manager and is deemed "running normally" > and there is a > 75 gig disk running off of it that seems > to run just fine. I may have SCSI disks on the system > however but that > should not make a difference if the > other disk runs off firewire. For a while, everything was > just fine, then > one day it disappeared and won't > show up as a new device to be installed under W2K. > > Thanks, > Steve > > > > At 12:27 AM 7/26/01 +0100, you wrote: > >On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:03:21 -0500 Steven N. Norvich > >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > > > Anyone have their scanner simply disappear > (logically)? Device > >manager > > > says it is > > > not there and although hooked up to a fireware connection > on my Dell > > > (not an installed card, > > > original installation), it is not discovered under new > devices to be > > > installed. Got any ideas > > > about why or how to fix it? > > > >First off, I didn't know the SS4000 was available with a Firewire > >interface, I thought they were all SCSI. > > > >Second, does the Firewire (if it really is:) card show up OK > in Device > >Mangler without conflicts? Do any other Firewire devices > work off the card > >OK? > > > >If it is really SCSI, do you have the rear panel terminator > switch set to > >'on', and what ID number is set? Do you have other devices > on the same bus? > > > >Regards > > > >Tony Sleep > >http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + > film scanner info > >& comparisons > > Best regards, > Steve > > Steve Norvich > Quentin Corners #114 > 853 N. Quentin Road > Palatine, Illinois 60067-0711 > > http://www.underwaterphotos.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >
Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win2K disappears!
The SS4000 is, as far as I know, ONLY Firewire. The firewire controller does show up on device manager and is deemed "running normally" and there is a 75 gig disk running off of it that seems to run just fine. I may have SCSI disks on the system however but that should not make a difference if the other disk runs off firewire. For a while, everything was just fine, then one day it disappeared and won't show up as a new device to be installed under W2K. Thanks, Steve At 12:27 AM 7/26/01 +0100, you wrote: >On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:03:21 -0500 Steven N. Norvich >([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > > > Anyone have their scanner simply disappear (logically)? Device >manager > > says it is > > not there and although hooked up to a fireware connection on my Dell > > (not an installed card, > > original installation), it is not discovered under new devices to be > > installed. Got any ideas > > about why or how to fix it? > >First off, I didn't know the SS4000 was available with a Firewire >interface, I thought they were all SCSI. > >Second, does the Firewire (if it really is:) card show up OK in Device >Mangler without conflicts? Do any other Firewire devices work off the card >OK? > >If it is really SCSI, do you have the rear panel terminator switch set to >'on', and what ID number is set? Do you have other devices on the same bus? > >Regards > >Tony Sleep >http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + film scanner info >& comparisons Best regards, Steve Steve Norvich Quentin Corners #114 853 N. Quentin Road Palatine, Illinois 60067-0711 http://www.underwaterphotos.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: filmscanners: SS4000, Win2K disappears!
And if it really is SCSI, here is what solved the problem for me and some others: "Thanks to the many Filmscanners who helped solve my problem(SS 4000 not recognized in Win 2K). Conclusion was: 1. Install new drivers for the AdvanSys ABP-3922-00 SCSI card from http://www.connectcom.net/downloads/fastultra.html. Connect.com is the new name for the AdvanSys site. This installed a driver called Fast Ultra Narrow SCSI, which then showed up properly in Device Manager. Win 2K itself had a driver for the AdvanSys card which loaded automatically on setup, but it was out-dated. 2. Install new NTASPI32 with the installer from http://advansys.com/support/ntwnaspi32.html. A trick here was that the Adaptec installer did not work(gave a message that there was no Adaptec card on my system). The Polaroid Support staff and some others advised me to use the Adaptec site, but that would never work for me. Also, the AdvanSys CD that originally came with my SS4000(December 1999) had outdated drivers. In this AdvanSys site, there was a choice of a GUI installer or a simple system where you just copy the NTASPI and WNASPI files to two different WIN NT folders. I used the GUI and it was all automatic. 3. Now I had the right drivers and ASPI layer, but the scanner was still not recognized. I had to physically remove the AdvanSys card and reboot with the card out of the system(no longer showed up in the Device Manager). Then I shut down, put the AdvanSys card back in, and started up again. Voila! Works pefectly so far with the SS4000 using either Vuescan or PolaColor Insight. I still have a problem with Win2K system freezes when using Windows Explorer, and my USRobotics modem is not working. But all applications like Photoshop 6 and ThumbsPlus are working better than they did on Win 98 or Me. Dual Boot with Win Me working fine. I'll solve the other problems, but I couldn't have solved the ASPI problem without your help. Thanks Bill Twieg" *** -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Sleep Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win2K disappears! On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:03:21 -0500 Steven N. Norvich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Anyone have their scanner simply disappear (logically)? Device manager > says it is > not there and although hooked up to a fireware connection on my Dell > (not an installed card, > original installation), it is not discovered under new devices to be > installed. Got any ideas > about why or how to fix it? First off, I didn't know the SS4000 was available with a Firewire interface, I thought they were all SCSI. Second, does the Firewire (if it really is:) card show up OK in Device Mangler without conflicts? Do any other Firewire devices work off the card OK? If it is really SCSI, do you have the rear panel terminator switch set to 'on', and what ID number is set? Do you have other devices on the same bus? Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + film scanner info & comparisons
Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win2K disappears!
On Wed, 25 Jul 2001 15:03:21 -0500 Steven N. Norvich ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Anyone have their scanner simply disappear (logically)? Device manager > says it is > not there and although hooked up to a fireware connection on my Dell > (not an installed card, > original installation), it is not discovered under new devices to be > installed. Got any ideas > about why or how to fix it? First off, I didn't know the SS4000 was available with a Firewire interface, I thought they were all SCSI. Second, does the Firewire (if it really is:) card show up OK in Device Mangler without conflicts? Do any other Firewire devices work off the card OK? If it is really SCSI, do you have the rear panel terminator switch set to 'on', and what ID number is set? Do you have other devices on the same bus? Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + film scanner info & comparisons
filmscanners: SS4000, Win2K disappears!
Greetings, Anyone have their scanner simply disappear (logically)? Device manager says it is not there and although hooked up to a fireware connection on my Dell (not an installed card, original installation), it is not discovered under new devices to be installed. Got any ideas about why or how to fix it? Best regards, Steve Steve Norvich Quentin Corners #114 853 N. Quentin Road Palatine, Illinois 60067-0711 http://www.underwaterphotos.com [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings
On Tue, 24 Jul 2001 20:33:26 -0500 Stan Schwartz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > I presume you are not having any freeze-ups. Have you used Insight 5.0? None. I have only used the 5.0beta so far. BTW, it appears to be more or less mandatory to completely uninstall Insight before installing a version upgrade, so I hope you did... Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + film scanner info & comparisons
RE: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings
I have recieved no reports of stability problems or in fact any other problems with Insight 5.0. Regards David > -Original Message- > From: Steve Greenbank [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 4:54 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings > > > As you are already using 5.0 one source of possible problems > can be the old > version. Most installs work fine, but the odd one sometimes > plays up if you > don't uninstall the old version before installing the new one. I don't > expect this to be the problem as this is usually hardware drivers and > programs that are running (anything automatically started on > boot that stays > running) when you install the new version. It's usually wise > to stop the old > version before the install. > > Perhaps David will let you know if there are any other people having > problems with 5.0 and whether uninstall 4.5 then install 5.0 > works best. > > It may be an interaction between Polar Insight 5.0 and something else > particular to your system. I very much doubt that Vcache is > anything to do > with your real problem, it just encourages it to occur. > > I had a bad interaction with some well known scanning > software that for a > long time would not work unless I physically disabled my DVD > & CD-Writer. > This was very repeatable so was much easier to track down, > but it still took > many hours to find. > > The fact that altering the Vcache settings seems to trigger > the problem > suggests you have a nasty instability in your system These > can be near > impossible to track down. I suspect quite a few people have > the potential to > have these sorts of problems in their systems - particularly > PC's where > there are endless combinations of devices and drivers. I'd > definitely try > Prime95 as it is used by overclockers to find whether their > systems can cope > with extreme timing settings. Any memory/cpu problems soon > show up. You can > set it running at start up and continue to work with little noticeable > slowdown in performance it just mops up any spare resources. > You can set it to use upto 90% (enter 100% and it tells you > the max) of > physical memory under options->cpu and it will still not > effect your general > performance. If your PC has any cpu/memory (or overheating) > problems the > program will throw up an error. If there is an error within a > minute of > starting I suggest your problem has nothing to do with Polar Insight. > > Sadly for us scanning and manipulating huge image files is > quite stressful > and is always more likely to expose problems than editting a > 3 page Word > document. > > Steve > - Original Message - > From: "Stan Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:37 AM > Subject: RE: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings > > > > Thanks. Good ideas here. Stan > > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of > Steve Greenbank > > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:24 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings > > > > > > Changing the VCache settings should not alter the result, > only the speed > at > > which you receive the result :- )Except where you hit the > Win9x/ME bug > where > > you must set a value less than 512MB if you have more > physical memory than > > 512MB. > > > > As this does not apply to you it suggests you have a > problem elsewhere. > The > > fact that the new Vcache settings leave more physical > memory available > might > > mean you have a physical memory problem in an area of > memory not used by > the > > new setting. It may also be due to a physical memory > problem being moved > to > > a more critical point. eg. dodgy memory used for picture > storage may have > > almost undetectable effect on an image but would crash most > programs if it > > was used for program code. > > > > Likely sources are: > > 1) Polarcolor insight problem (try re-installing - anyone > else having > > problems - try 5.0) > > 2) Physical memory problem (try a decent memory tester or > different memory > > or if you can, remove half at a time) - or try "torture > test" in Prime95 ( > > http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm ) - this thrashes cpu & memory > > severely. > > 3) SCSI device or driver problem (tr
Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings
As you are already using 5.0 one source of possible problems can be the old version. Most installs work fine, but the odd one sometimes plays up if you don't uninstall the old version before installing the new one. I don't expect this to be the problem as this is usually hardware drivers and programs that are running (anything automatically started on boot that stays running) when you install the new version. It's usually wise to stop the old version before the install. Perhaps David will let you know if there are any other people having problems with 5.0 and whether uninstall 4.5 then install 5.0 works best. It may be an interaction between Polar Insight 5.0 and something else particular to your system. I very much doubt that Vcache is anything to do with your real problem, it just encourages it to occur. I had a bad interaction with some well known scanning software that for a long time would not work unless I physically disabled my DVD & CD-Writer. This was very repeatable so was much easier to track down, but it still took many hours to find. The fact that altering the Vcache settings seems to trigger the problem suggests you have a nasty instability in your system These can be near impossible to track down. I suspect quite a few people have the potential to have these sorts of problems in their systems - particularly PC's where there are endless combinations of devices and drivers. I'd definitely try Prime95 as it is used by overclockers to find whether their systems can cope with extreme timing settings. Any memory/cpu problems soon show up. You can set it running at start up and continue to work with little noticeable slowdown in performance it just mops up any spare resources. You can set it to use upto 90% (enter 100% and it tells you the max) of physical memory under options->cpu and it will still not effect your general performance. If your PC has any cpu/memory (or overheating) problems the program will throw up an error. If there is an error within a minute of starting I suggest your problem has nothing to do with Polar Insight. Sadly for us scanning and manipulating huge image files is quite stressful and is always more likely to expose problems than editting a 3 page Word document. Steve - Original Message - From: "Stan Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2001 2:37 AM Subject: RE: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings > Thanks. Good ideas here. Stan > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Greenbank > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:24 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings > > > Changing the VCache settings should not alter the result, only the speed at > which you receive the result :- )Except where you hit the Win9x/ME bug where > you must set a value less than 512MB if you have more physical memory than > 512MB. > > As this does not apply to you it suggests you have a problem elsewhere. The > fact that the new Vcache settings leave more physical memory available might > mean you have a physical memory problem in an area of memory not used by the > new setting. It may also be due to a physical memory problem being moved to > a more critical point. eg. dodgy memory used for picture storage may have > almost undetectable effect on an image but would crash most programs if it > was used for program code. > > Likely sources are: > 1) Polarcolor insight problem (try re-installing - anyone else having > problems - try 5.0) > 2) Physical memory problem (try a decent memory tester or different memory > or if you can, remove half at a time) - or try "torture test" in Prime95 ( > http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm ) - this thrashes cpu & memory > severely. > 3) SCSI device or driver problem (try re-installing or removing other > devices) > 4) BIOS setup issue (careful with this as you can really screw your machine) > 5) Problem with a background process (eg.virus program) (remove all > non-essential background processes) > 6) Other device or driver problem (disable as many devices as possible - > physical removal is better) > 7) Software conflict problem (particularly related to other SCSI devices) > (temporarily remove other devices) > > To check properly you will after to find a set of scan settings that will > reboot your machine everytime - preferably immediately after just booting. > > Otherwise your current setting for MaxFileCache is a bit low and will > probably slow your machine down. Using a value that is slightly larger than > your typical TIFF file can make open & save work much quicker provided you > don't overly restrict available RAM to the actual programs. This can be seen > m
RE: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings
Thanks. Good ideas here. Stan -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Greenbank Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:24 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings Changing the VCache settings should not alter the result, only the speed at which you receive the result :- )Except where you hit the Win9x/ME bug where you must set a value less than 512MB if you have more physical memory than 512MB. As this does not apply to you it suggests you have a problem elsewhere. The fact that the new Vcache settings leave more physical memory available might mean you have a physical memory problem in an area of memory not used by the new setting. It may also be due to a physical memory problem being moved to a more critical point. eg. dodgy memory used for picture storage may have almost undetectable effect on an image but would crash most programs if it was used for program code. Likely sources are: 1) Polarcolor insight problem (try re-installing - anyone else having problems - try 5.0) 2) Physical memory problem (try a decent memory tester or different memory or if you can, remove half at a time) - or try "torture test" in Prime95 ( http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm ) - this thrashes cpu & memory severely. 3) SCSI device or driver problem (try re-installing or removing other devices) 4) BIOS setup issue (careful with this as you can really screw your machine) 5) Problem with a background process (eg.virus program) (remove all non-essential background processes) 6) Other device or driver problem (disable as many devices as possible - physical removal is better) 7) Software conflict problem (particularly related to other SCSI devices) (temporarily remove other devices) To check properly you will after to find a set of scan settings that will reboot your machine everytime - preferably immediately after just booting. Otherwise your current setting for MaxFileCache is a bit low and will probably slow your machine down. Using a value that is slightly larger than your typical TIFF file can make open & save work much quicker provided you don't overly restrict available RAM to the actual programs. This can be seen most clearly during a save operation. (eg 35mm 4000dpi is about 54MB 8bit and 108MB 16bit so try around 55000/11 depending on whether you use a lot of 16bit files). Steve - Original Message - From: "Stan Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Filmscanners (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings > I use an SS4000 on a SCSI connection with a Win98SE 933 PentiumIII and 512MB > RAM. > > I was having some problems with the system doing a reboot in the middle of > scanning a transparency, usually with Polacolor Insight. I posted that here > a couple of weeks ago and got some suggestions. > > I also use my computer for speech recognition software (not at the same > time, of course). In the process of tweaking the computer for better speech > recognition, I made some changes in the Vcache settings. > > After making those "improvements," I was unable to scan a single slide > without the system suddenly rebooting. It seems there is a connection > between these Vcache settings and the problems I have had. > > Does anyone have experience with tweaking the Vcache settings for a SCSI > slide scanner? I have used a couple of the shareware type programs that > suggest values for "power users" and "multimedia" and "low memory systems". > > I just changed the settings in system.ini to: > > [vcache] > MaxFileCache=16384 > MinFileCache=3144 > > > > The settings I had been using were min=0, max=131,000 (that was > approximate--it was a correct multiple) with chunk size specified as 4096. > > Now I can finish a scan, but I have no clue what the optimum setting should > be, or if it should be specified at all. > > > Stan > >
RE: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings
I presume you are not having any freeze-ups. Have you used Insight 5.0? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Tony Sleep Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 10:55 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings My w98/SS4000 machine has [vcache] and no entries at all. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + film scanner info & comparisons
Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings
The problem here is if you have more than 512 meg of RAM installed with any version of WIN9X. In that case it may not start up as it gives to much memory to the cache. Therefore with over 512 meg installed on a PC you would have a statement in like this in system.ini . [vcache] MaxFileCache=262144 It is explained in a knowledge base article but the relevant bits are noted below. "The Windows 32-bit protected-mode cache driver (Vcache) determines the maximum cache size based on the amount of RAM that is present when Windows starts. Vcache then reserves enough memory addresses to permit it to access a cache of the maximum size so that it can increase the cache to that size if needed. These addresses are allocated in a range of virtual addresses from 0xC000 through 0x (3 to 4 gigabytes) known as the system arena. "On computers with large amounts of RAM, the maximum cache size can be large enough that Vcache consumes all of the addresses in the system arena, leaving no virtual memory addresses available for other functions such as opening an MS-DOS prompt (creating a new virtual machine). "This problem may occur more readily with Advanced Graphics Port (AGP) video adapters because the AGP aperture is also mapped to addresses in the system arena. For example, if Vcache is using a maximum cache size of 800MB and an AGP video adapter has a 128MB aperture mapped, there is very little address space remaining for the other system code and data that must occupy this range of virtual addresses." And here are the three suggested workarounds: "1. Physically remove any memory in excess of 512MB [!] "2. Use the System Configuration utility to limit the amount of memory that Windows uses to 512MB or less. "3. Use the MaxFileCache setting in the System.ini file to reduce the maximum amount of memory that Vcache uses to 512MB (524,288 KB) or less." And the unspoken fourth solution: upgrade to Windows 2000. The above was culled from the register.. Tests on a website noted below reckon you are better with WIN 2000 when you have 512 meg ram when using Photoshop. They were originally trying to see whether a P4 or athlon was best for Photoshop. http://www.xbitlabs.com/cpu/photoshop-platform/ Eddie - Original Message - From: "Jawed Ashraf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2001 8:46 PM Subject: RE: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings > I have 512MB RAM on a Win98 (not SE) Athlon 1.2GHz PC and my vcache section > is empty. Windows does its own thing which, with a large RAM PC, is > probably the best thing. My cache tends to range from 24MB to 180MB. (Use > the SYSMON program to draw a graph of your cache size.) > > Jawed > > > -Original Message- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Greenbank > > Sent: 24 July 2001 04:24 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings > > > > > > Changing the VCache settings should not alter the result, only > > the speed at > > which you receive the result :- )Except where you hit the > > Win9x/ME bug where > > you must set a value less than 512MB if you have more physical memory than > > 512MB. > > > > As this does not apply to you it suggests you have a problem > > elsewhere. The > > fact that the new Vcache settings leave more physical memory > > available might > > mean you have a physical memory problem in an area of memory not > > used by the > > new setting. It may also be due to a physical memory problem > > being moved to > > a more critical point. eg. dodgy memory used for picture storage may have > > almost undetectable effect on an image but would crash most programs if it > > was used for program code. > > > > Likely sources are: > > 1) Polarcolor insight problem (try re-installing - anyone else having > > problems - try 5.0) > > 2) Physical memory problem (try a decent memory tester or different memory > > or if you can, remove half at a time) - or try "torture test" in Prime95 ( > > http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm ) - this thrashes cpu & memory > > severely. > > 3) SCSI device or driver problem (try re-installing or removing other > > devices) > > 4) BIOS setup issue (careful with this as you can really screw > > your machine) > > 5) Problem with a background process (eg.virus program) (remove all > > non-essential background processes) > > 6) Other device or driver problem (disable as many devices as possible - > > physical removal is better) > > 7) Software conflict problem (particularly related to other SCSI devices) > > (temporarily remov
Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 16:06:20 -0500 Stan Schwartz ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > [vcache] > MaxFileCache=16384 > MinFileCache=3144 > > > > The settings I had been using were min=0, max=131,000 (that was > approximate--it was a correct multiple) with chunk size specified as > 4096. > > Now I can finish a scan, but I have no clue what the optimum setting > should > be, or if it should be specified at all. My w98/SS4000 machine has [vcache] and no entries at all. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + film scanner info & comparisons
RE: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings
I have 512MB RAM on a Win98 (not SE) Athlon 1.2GHz PC and my vcache section is empty. Windows does its own thing which, with a large RAM PC, is probably the best thing. My cache tends to range from 24MB to 180MB. (Use the SYSMON program to draw a graph of your cache size.) Jawed > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Steve Greenbank > Sent: 24 July 2001 04:24 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings > > > Changing the VCache settings should not alter the result, only > the speed at > which you receive the result :- )Except where you hit the > Win9x/ME bug where > you must set a value less than 512MB if you have more physical memory than > 512MB. > > As this does not apply to you it suggests you have a problem > elsewhere. The > fact that the new Vcache settings leave more physical memory > available might > mean you have a physical memory problem in an area of memory not > used by the > new setting. It may also be due to a physical memory problem > being moved to > a more critical point. eg. dodgy memory used for picture storage may have > almost undetectable effect on an image but would crash most programs if it > was used for program code. > > Likely sources are: > 1) Polarcolor insight problem (try re-installing - anyone else having > problems - try 5.0) > 2) Physical memory problem (try a decent memory tester or different memory > or if you can, remove half at a time) - or try "torture test" in Prime95 ( > http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm ) - this thrashes cpu & memory > severely. > 3) SCSI device or driver problem (try re-installing or removing other > devices) > 4) BIOS setup issue (careful with this as you can really screw > your machine) > 5) Problem with a background process (eg.virus program) (remove all > non-essential background processes) > 6) Other device or driver problem (disable as many devices as possible - > physical removal is better) > 7) Software conflict problem (particularly related to other SCSI devices) > (temporarily remove other devices) > > To check properly you will after to find a set of scan settings that will > reboot your machine everytime - preferably immediately after just booting. > > Otherwise your current setting for MaxFileCache is a bit low and will > probably slow your machine down. Using a value that is slightly > larger than > your typical TIFF file can make open & save work much quicker provided you > don't overly restrict available RAM to the actual programs. This > can be seen > most clearly during a save operation. (eg 35mm 4000dpi is about 54MB 8bit > and 108MB 16bit so try around 55000/11 depending on whether you use a > lot of 16bit files). > > Steve > > - Original Message - > From: "Stan Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Filmscanners (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:06 PM > Subject: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings > > > > I use an SS4000 on a SCSI connection with a Win98SE 933 PentiumIII and > 512MB > > RAM. > > > > I was having some problems with the system doing a reboot in > the middle of > > scanning a transparency, usually with Polacolor Insight. I posted that > here > > a couple of weeks ago and got some suggestions. > > > > I also use my computer for speech recognition software (not at the same > > time, of course). In the process of tweaking the computer for better > speech > > recognition, I made some changes in the Vcache settings. > > > > After making those "improvements," I was unable to scan a single slide > > without the system suddenly rebooting. It seems there is a connection > > between these Vcache settings and the problems I have had. > > > > Does anyone have experience with tweaking the Vcache settings for a SCSI > > slide scanner? I have used a couple of the shareware type programs that > > suggest values for "power users" and "multimedia" and "low memory > systems". > > > > I just changed the settings in system.ini to: > > > > [vcache] > > MaxFileCache=16384 > > MinFileCache=3144 > > > > > > > > The settings I had been using were min=0, max=131,000 (that was > > approximate--it was a correct multiple) with chunk size > specified as 4096. > > > > Now I can finish a scan, but I have no clue what the optimum setting > should > > be, or if it should be specified at all. > > > > > > Stan > > > > > >
Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings
Changing the VCache settings should not alter the result, only the speed at which you receive the result :- )Except where you hit the Win9x/ME bug where you must set a value less than 512MB if you have more physical memory than 512MB. As this does not apply to you it suggests you have a problem elsewhere. The fact that the new Vcache settings leave more physical memory available might mean you have a physical memory problem in an area of memory not used by the new setting. It may also be due to a physical memory problem being moved to a more critical point. eg. dodgy memory used for picture storage may have almost undetectable effect on an image but would crash most programs if it was used for program code. Likely sources are: 1) Polarcolor insight problem (try re-installing - anyone else having problems - try 5.0) 2) Physical memory problem (try a decent memory tester or different memory or if you can, remove half at a time) - or try "torture test" in Prime95 ( http://www.mersenne.org/freesoft.htm ) - this thrashes cpu & memory severely. 3) SCSI device or driver problem (try re-installing or removing other devices) 4) BIOS setup issue (careful with this as you can really screw your machine) 5) Problem with a background process (eg.virus program) (remove all non-essential background processes) 6) Other device or driver problem (disable as many devices as possible - physical removal is better) 7) Software conflict problem (particularly related to other SCSI devices) (temporarily remove other devices) To check properly you will after to find a set of scan settings that will reboot your machine everytime - preferably immediately after just booting. Otherwise your current setting for MaxFileCache is a bit low and will probably slow your machine down. Using a value that is slightly larger than your typical TIFF file can make open & save work much quicker provided you don't overly restrict available RAM to the actual programs. This can be seen most clearly during a save operation. (eg 35mm 4000dpi is about 54MB 8bit and 108MB 16bit so try around 55000/11 depending on whether you use a lot of 16bit files). Steve - Original Message - From: "Stan Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Filmscanners (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings > I use an SS4000 on a SCSI connection with a Win98SE 933 PentiumIII and 512MB > RAM. > > I was having some problems with the system doing a reboot in the middle of > scanning a transparency, usually with Polacolor Insight. I posted that here > a couple of weeks ago and got some suggestions. > > I also use my computer for speech recognition software (not at the same > time, of course). In the process of tweaking the computer for better speech > recognition, I made some changes in the Vcache settings. > > After making those "improvements," I was unable to scan a single slide > without the system suddenly rebooting. It seems there is a connection > between these Vcache settings and the problems I have had. > > Does anyone have experience with tweaking the Vcache settings for a SCSI > slide scanner? I have used a couple of the shareware type programs that > suggest values for "power users" and "multimedia" and "low memory systems". > > I just changed the settings in system.ini to: > > [vcache] > MaxFileCache=16384 > MinFileCache=3144 > > > > The settings I had been using were min=0, max=131,000 (that was > approximate--it was a correct multiple) with chunk size specified as 4096. > > Now I can finish a scan, but I have no clue what the optimum setting should > be, or if it should be specified at all. > > > Stan > >
Re: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings
I don't know that vcache has anything to do with the SCSI connection but then with Windows it might. It does have to do with memory error messages with RAM of over 512MB (not your situation) and a starting point for your answer might be at http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q253/9/12.ASP It refers to several other articles and provides MS's cryptic keywords for further search on the topic. Maris - Original Message - From: "Stan Schwartz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Filmscanners (E-mail)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 23, 2001 4:06 PM Subject: filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings | I use an SS4000 on a SCSI connection with a Win98SE 933 PentiumIII and 512MB | RAM. | | I was having some problems with the system doing a reboot in the middle of | scanning a transparency, usually with Polacolor Insight. I posted that here | a couple of weeks ago and got some suggestions. | | I also use my computer for speech recognition software (not at the same | time, of course). In the process of tweaking the computer for better speech | recognition, I made some changes in the Vcache settings. | | After making those "improvements," I was unable to scan a single slide | without the system suddenly rebooting. It seems there is a connection | between these Vcache settings and the problems I have had. | | Does anyone have experience with tweaking the Vcache settings for a SCSI | slide scanner? I have used a couple of the shareware type programs that | suggest values for "power users" and "multimedia" and "low memory systems". | | I just changed the settings in system.ini to: | | [vcache] | MaxFileCache=16384 | MinFileCache=3144 | | | | The settings I had been using were min=0, max=131,000 (that was | approximate--it was a correct multiple) with chunk size specified as 4096. | | Now I can finish a scan, but I have no clue what the optimum setting should | be, or if it should be specified at all. | | | Stan | |
filmscanners: SS4000, Win98 and VCache settings
I use an SS4000 on a SCSI connection with a Win98SE 933 PentiumIII and 512MB RAM. I was having some problems with the system doing a reboot in the middle of scanning a transparency, usually with Polacolor Insight. I posted that here a couple of weeks ago and got some suggestions. I also use my computer for speech recognition software (not at the same time, of course). In the process of tweaking the computer for better speech recognition, I made some changes in the Vcache settings. After making those "improvements," I was unable to scan a single slide without the system suddenly rebooting. It seems there is a connection between these Vcache settings and the problems I have had. Does anyone have experience with tweaking the Vcache settings for a SCSI slide scanner? I have used a couple of the shareware type programs that suggest values for "power users" and "multimedia" and "low memory systems". I just changed the settings in system.ini to: [vcache] MaxFileCache=16384 MinFileCache=3144 The settings I had been using were min=0, max=131,000 (that was approximate--it was a correct multiple) with chunk size specified as 4096. Now I can finish a scan, but I have no clue what the optimum setting should be, or if it should be specified at all. Stan
Re: filmscanners: SS4000: calibrate and profile?
On Tue, 19 Jun 2001 04:57:42 -0400 rafeb ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > Personally, I see little reason to calibrate any scanner. I rather agree. IME sample variation is usually slight with the better units which use profiles, so any gain from doing this is likely to be small. And DIY profiles are not necessarily going to be better. As rafe says, it's a moot point whether it's all that useful since you will always end up adjusting the scanner-profiled image to taste anyhow. Regards Tony Sleep http://www.halftone.co.uk - Online portfolio & exhibit; + film scanner info & comparisons
filmscanners: SS4000: calibrate and profile?
I've added a Polaroid SprintScan 4000 to my desktop (w/o trying to level it 8). And installed both Polaroid's PolaColor Insight Pro (4.5) software and LaserSoft Imaging's Silverfast 5 software. Both were bundled. Silverfast 5 includes an IT-8 calibration module, which includes profiling. A C-ROES IT-8 target slide is also bundled. And you can download from an Ian Lyons tutorial on how to use Silverfast to calibrate your SS4000 and use its profile. I'd appreciate any advice about whether to calibrate and profile my SS4000. And, if so, whether to do it via Silverfast or some other software such as 's ICC Scan, which plays nicely with a variety of IT-8 targets, including Kodak's, which I have. In case it matters, I'll be scanning mostly old Kodachrome, Ektachrome, and Fujicrome slides for personal archives and for printing. Thanks. Sam
Re: filmscanners: ss4000 repair bill
I would object most vigorously to this repair bill. It sounds like design flaws and defective parts. A load motor sensor has no moving parts, I would gather, and should not have failed, period. The cleaning brush, which I assume is internal, should not have required "readjusting" and of course a cleaning brush if there to begin with, is a recognition that it will gather dirt and will require occasional cleaning, so it seems it should be a user accessible part, if this is the case. Calibration is probably done on every unit that comes in, and again, shouldn't drift enough to need to be done unless there are design issues. And what the heck is "preventive maintenance"... this sound to me like "we fixed some other design flaws while we had it here, so it is less likely to be back again." How old is the unit? Was it mistreated by you, or left in an unusually dusty environment? How many frames have been through it? Lastly, this estimating fee of 30% of the repair value in an outrage. Nikon charges $50 on cameras, which are more sophisticated and harder to take apart. Many companies charge nothing. My brother was in the service industry for a dozen years in hi-tech and he charged nothing, and finally $5, since it is true you have to fix the unit to estimate the problem properly and it can be abused (he also was the only company in his field giving a one year warranty on repairs). They are basically saying, everything we did to fix this is irreversable, maybe with the exception of the replacement of the sensor. I mean are they going to mis-align the brush and make it dirty again before returning it to you? If I were you: 1: Speak to David Hemmingway about this, now! 2: If that doesn't resolve to a reasonable conclusion, I'd protest loudly to Polaroid 3: I'd find out the cost of the sensor, probably a generic part costing $5.. if Polaroid won't supply one, check out Microtek, who makes the thing and sells their own version. It might even be a generic part available at Radio Shack too. 4: If they don't provide the repair for free, or nearly so, if your handy, I'd refuse the estimate, pay the $125 under extreme protest and I'd order the sensor and install it myself. 5: Post a warning on all lists and usenet sites about this practice of Polaroid's Polaroid seems to have a multiple personality disorder. They can be the most reasonable, helpful, top notch company to deal with some days, and then other times, it seems, their business ethics go into a real slump. Having experienced only the positive side of this personality, I find it really painful to hear of these type of experiences. But obviously, they do occur. Art Bill Ross wrote: > My ss4000 was giving me perpetual-motion back/forth motor > action on initialization, and after pushing a slide carrier > through slowly a few times with the unit turned off, it > switched to continuous eject action. Then I got the > sensor brush & tried that - no effect. So I shipped the > unit to Polaroid, & just got the estimate, $400 for: > "Repairs needed: Load motor sensor, cleaning brush, > cleaned, aligned, calibrate and preventative maintenance > performed." Cost of estimate if I choose to skip the > repairs is $125. > > Given that others are seeing this initialization problem > due to sensor failure, I'm suspecting that the root cause > is a bad batch of sensors. I wonder how much those sensors > really cost.. > > Bill Ross
Re: filmscanners: ss4000 repair bill
I'd certainly argue with them. This is a known problem. In fact, mine is at Polaroid for warranty repair with the exact problem. As for a supervisor. Maybe David can help you. It's tough to argue this isn't a design flaw. Tom - Original Message - From: "Bill Ross" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2001 1:29 PM Subject: filmscanners: ss4000 repair bill > My ss4000 was giving me perpetual-motion back/forth motor > action on initialization, and after pushing a slide carrier > through slowly a few times with the unit turned off, it > switched to continuous eject action. Then I got the > sensor brush & tried that - no effect. So I shipped the > unit to Polaroid, & just got the estimate, $400 for: > "Repairs needed: Load motor sensor, cleaning brush, > cleaned, aligned, calibrate and preventative maintenance > performed." Cost of estimate if I choose to skip the > repairs is $125. > > Given that others are seeing this initialization problem > due to sensor failure, I'm suspecting that the root cause > is a bad batch of sensors. I wonder how much those sensors > really cost.. > > Bill Ross
