Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-13 Thread Avi33

The DMAX of the LS-40 will be 3.6 instead of the 3.0 DMAX in the LS-30.

 Is the main improvement of the LS-40 over the LS-30 the USB connection, 12 
  bits vs. 10 bits, and slightly higher DPI?



RE: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-13 Thread shAf


Avi33 writes ...

 The DMAX of the LS-40 will be 3.6 instead of
 the 3.0 DMAX in the LS-30.
 ...

Unfortunately, it is up for debate what any Dmax is for the Nikon
scanners.  That is, their Dmax specification seems to be simply what
the bit depth is capable of storing, and may have absolutely nothing
to to do with its true sensitivity or accuracy, or signal-over-noise.
I am however, optimistic for these new Nikons ... Ed seems to believe
they have improved in this respect ... he didn't mention the typical
LED noise the Nikons are noted for.

shAf  :o)




Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-07 Thread Rob Geraghty

Ed Hamirck wrote:
Interestingly, NikonScan 3.0 that came with this scanner
also works with my LS-30.  The commands that these
scanners use are almost identical.  NikonScan 3.0
with the LS-30 has the same limitations - 8-bits only.
It also doesn't enable DIgital GEM and Digital ROC
with the LS-30 (but it does with the LS-40).

Does it get jaggies?

Rob



Rob Geraghty [EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://wordweb.com






Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-07 Thread EdHamrick

In a message dated 3/6/2001 6:10:26 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 What advantages does
  firewire have over SCSI??

Firewire is theoretically faster than SCSI, but no scanner
is so fast that SCSI is the bottleneck.

  Any idea why Nikon switched to fw, and
  didn't impliment both?

I suspect that they switched to Firewire because the newer
Macintoshes have Fireware and don't have SCSI.

Regards,
Ed Hamrick



Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-07 Thread EdHamrick

In a message dated 3/7/2001 1:41:06 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Interestingly, NikonScan 3.0 that came with this scanner
  also works with my LS-30.  The commands that these
  scanners use are almost identical.  NikonScan 3.0
  with the LS-30 has the same limitations - 8-bits only.
  It also doesn't enable DIgital GEM and Digital ROC
  with the LS-30 (but it does with the LS-40).
  
  Does it get jaggies?

I just traced the scsi commands that NikonScan 3.0 uses
with the LS-30, and it probably will get the same jaggies
as in NikonScan 2.5.  It reads scan lines in 64K buffers,
which is what causes the jaggies.

I already told my Nikon contact about how to fix the
problem, and he said he'd pass the information back
to Nikon in Japan.  The fix didn't get into NikonScan 3.0.

Regards,
Ed Hamrick



Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-07 Thread Rob Geraghty

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just traced the scsi commands that NikonScan 3.0 uses
 with the LS-30, and it probably will get the same jaggies
 as in NikonScan 2.5.  It reads scan lines in 64K buffers,
 which is what causes the jaggies.
 I already told my Nikon contact about how to fix the
 problem, and he said he'd pass the information back
 to Nikon in Japan.  The fix didn't get into NikonScan 3.0.

Thanks Ed, at least there's hope of a patch!  Nikon USA told
me they had referred the problem back to Japan, so perhaps
something will happen...

Rob





RE: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-06 Thread shAf

Ed writes ...

 ...

 ...
 I looked at the .inf file for the LS-4000 and it
 uses SCSI over Firewire, which means it should
 be just as easy to add support for in VueScan.
 ...

S ... you plan on implimenting 'firewire'.  I just read on
another list ... in the context of a "Linoscan " ... you implied no
such plans (... altho the future number of LS-4000s sold probably is
an encentive ...)

shAf  :o)




Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-06 Thread Dale Gail

Ed,

 LS40? Is that the Coolscan IV ED?

Dale

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 I just thought I'd let the people on this mailing list know that
 Nikon loaned me an LS-40 today.  I installed it and traced
 the USB commands, and it looks like it will be quite easy to
 add support for it to VueScan.  It encapsulates SCSI
 commands in USB packets, and these SCSI commands are
 almost identical to the commands used by the LS-2000.






Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-06 Thread Asael

Ed, 

How about support for the ls-8000?

Asael

www.DigitalPhotographicArt.com




Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-06 Thread EdHamrick

In a message dated 3/6/2001 1:35:30 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 S ... you plan on implimenting 'firewire'.  I just read on
  another list ... in the context of a "Linoscan " ... you implied no
  such plans

I certainly intend to implement SCSI over Firewire (which is what
scanners use - the SBP2 protocol).  It may take me a bit longer
to get it working on Mac OS than Windows though.  It turns
out that this is really, really easy for me to add on Windows.

Umax has promised to loan me a Firewire scanner to do the
development with, although it's possible that Nikon will come
up with a Firewire loaner first.

Regards,
Ed Hamrick



Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-06 Thread EdHamrick

In a message dated 3/6/2001 1:58:56 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Is the main improvement of the LS-40 over the LS-30 the USB connection, 12 
  bits vs. 10 bits, and slightly higher DPI?

Yes, although with NikonScan it's 12 bits vs. 8 bits.  In addition, the
LS-40 adds Digital ROC and Digital GEM (similar to VueScan's
Restore colors and Clean options).

  Also, what will the street price 
  be and when will they be available?

I have no idea.

Regards,
Ed Hamrick



Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-06 Thread EdHamrick

In a message dated 3/6/2001 2:09:02 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 LS40? Is that the Coolscan IV ED?

Yes - that's the same thing.

Interestingly, NikonScan 3.0 that came with this scanner
also works with my LS-30.  The commands that these
scanners use are almost identical.  NikonScan 3.0
with the LS-30 has the same limitations - 8-bits only.
It also doesn't enable DIgital GEM and Digital ROC
with the LS-30 (but it does with the LS-40).

Also, I just got VueScan to come up and talk to the
LS-40, without changing any code.  It doesn't scan yet,
but it's going to pretty soon.

Regards,
Ed Hamrick



Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-06 Thread EdHamrick

In a message dated 3/6/2001 5:05:01 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:

 How about support for the ls-8000?

It depends when Nikon can loan me one.  They're quite good
about loaning me scanners, so I suspect I'll get this working
right before the LS-8000 and LS-4000 become widely available.

Regards,
Ed Hamrick



RE: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-06 Thread shAf

Ed writes ...

 I certainly intend to implement SCSI over Firewire (which is what
 scanners use - the SBP2 protocol).  It may take me a bit longer
 to get it working on Mac OS than Windows though.  It turns
 out that this is really, really easy for me to add on Windows.
 ...

You make "SCSI" vs "firewire" sound as simple as what would allow for
a SCSI-to-firewire converter.  I have to admit, I haven't seriously
looked into firewire ... yet ... figuring the time would come when I
either needed another computer or the LS-4000.  What advantages does
firewire have over SCSI??  Any idea why Nikon switched to fw, and
didn't impliment both?

shAf  :o)




Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-06 Thread Alan Shaw

At this rate you should have support for the LS-16000 in a week or so!




Oh, yeah:  :-)



Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-06 Thread Dale Gail

Thanks for the info Ed. I plan on getting the LS-40 when they are available
in Canada. The suggested retail is half the price of the LS-4000. By the
time I get the LS-40 you should have all the bugs worked out in Vuescan:)

Dale

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Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan


 In a message dated 3/6/2001 2:09:02 PM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

  LS40? Is that the Coolscan IV ED?

 Yes - that's the same thing.

 Interestingly, NikonScan 3.0 that came with this scanner
 also works with my LS-30.  The commands that these
 scanners use are almost identical.  NikonScan 3.0
 with the LS-30 has the same limitations - 8-bits only.
 It also doesn't enable DIgital GEM and Digital ROC
 with the LS-30 (but it does with the LS-40).

 Also, I just got VueScan to come up and talk to the
 LS-40, without changing any code.  It doesn't scan yet,
 but it's going to pretty soon.





Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan

2001-03-06 Thread IronWorks

To me this is good news - they are working with their software's competitor,
but hopefully it helps both of you out.

Maris

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: I got a Nikon LS-40 on Loan


| In a message dated 3/6/2001 5:05:01 PM EST,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
| writes:
|
|  How about support for the ls-8000?
|
| It depends when Nikon can loan me one.  They're quite good
| about loaning me scanners, so I suspect I'll get this working
| right before the LS-8000 and LS-4000 become widely available.
|
| Regards,
| Ed Hamrick
|