RE: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan

2001-09-26 Thread Mikael Risedal

No
You are not doing anything wrong. Vuescan are written to use virtual memory 
on your hard disk if you not have enough raam memory in your machine. This 
means  : turn on virtual memory  .The bad thing is: This
will slow down your machine on all applications . Best thing to do is - 
install more memory, at least 500Mb if you are working with Vuescan and big 
pictures. Im using 1.5 Gb raam memory on the latest
G4  and have no problem with Vuescan, and Vuescans  memory handling.
Best regards Mikael Risedal

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From: Mike Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 16:34:57 -0500

I've downloaded the Macintosh version of Vuescan, and
tried to use it, and I'm getting a memory error.  It says
that it needs 91mb of memory to run?  I have 160mb (just
ordered 128mb more - will have that in a few days).
Am I doing something wrong?  I wouldn't think that it
would need this much memory just to load the software.

Thanks for all the help!

Mike

  -Original Message-
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  Barbara  Martin
  Greene
  Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 1:54 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan
 
 
  Mike
 
  No doubt that the documentation is for hunger.  After
  recently returning a
  Nikon Super coolscan 4000 and buying a SS 4000 with the goal of saving
  $1200, I have a basis to compare the two and some advice on
  how to proceed.
  The Nikon software is a pleasure to use, and the documentation, while
  sparse, is clear and to the point.  As for the SS 4000, go
  with Vuescan.
  Using both Polarscan and Silverfast, I got terrible results.
  Using the
  latest version of Vuescan with some help from those on the
  forum who are
  proficient with it, I've gotten great scans with excellent
  color and detail.
  I do wish that the documentation for it was clearer and gave more
  information on how to set the various controls.
 
  Martin
 


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Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan

2001-09-26 Thread Mikael Risedal

A old question is up again: Vuescan contra Silverfast.
Vuescan is a good software , Silverfast is a scanning tool.
If you learn to handle Silverfast and have a calibrated monitor,  know how 
to measure  the pre
scanned picture, with black point , gray point and white point ,the  
workflow  is faster and the
results better in Silverfast than Vuescan. You need no after work in 
Photoshop.
If you use Silverfast: Use the CMS and use Adobe RGB color space. If you not 
are using CMS the
red colors are some times over saturated. Use the selective colors 
correction and set red against
cyan to about -30. Adjust white point settings to 250 instead of 255. Set 
black point to 5 instead of
0. This settings helps against blown out high lights and more information in 
the darkest parts of the
scanned picture
Prescan a picture. Try auto correction and see what happens. Measure
black point , gray and white point. Correct colors and scan. This procedure 
takes about 5-10 sec.
The auto correction in Silverfast works in the same way as Vuescan does but 
you can also use
Siverfast tools to decide colors, contrast, curves and so on, quick and 
easy.
Regarding Vuescan: The picture are  often to flat and lack of contrast.
Set gamma low as  1,4 or 1.6. This settings gives you a not so flat picture. 
You can also try to set
image brightness in Vuescan from 1  to 0.8 or 0.9. to increase a better 
results (regarding flatness in
the picture.) Vuescan software settings seems to work better and more 
accurate  with positive film
than negative film. Tests I have done with slides are generally excellent
Conclusion: All scanner software works and calculate a pre scanned picture 
in a almost the same
way. Nikonscan and Silverfast has auto function and the auto calculation are 
good as Vuescan.
If Im not are scanning a raw file to Photoshop,  Silverfast is  IMO the 
ultimate choice of a  scanner
softwareup today.
Best regards Mikael Risedal





From: Chris Hargens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 12:47:13 -0700

I've had good results using Vuescan with my SS4000 with a minimum of
tweaking -- I usually use the default options. Sure, the help guide is a 
bit
opaque, but the software engine itself is high quality and worth the small
payment.


- Original Message -
From: Mike Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan


  I just received my new SS 4000, and am wondering the same thing.
  Silverfast seems to be pretty powerful, but cumbersome.  How does
  it compare to Vuescan in quality (not just functionality)?  I'm looking
  for the best quality scans, with minimal fuss.  The Polaroid software
  is much easier to use than Silverfast, but doesn't offer nearly the
  amount of functions.
 
  The scanner is great so far - I just need to figure out how to use it
  properly - the documentation is seriously deficient!
 
  Mike
 



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filmscanners: Silverfast vs Vuescan was Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan

2001-09-26 Thread Rob Geraghty

Mikael wrote:
A old question is up again: Vuescan contra Silverfast.
Vuescan is a good software , Silverfast is a scanning tool.

Which is great if you can justify the cost difference compared to the difference
in the results.  I'm sure there are pros on the list who could, but I'm
also sure there's many who can't.

Rob



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RE: filmscanners: Silverfast vs Vuescan was Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan

2001-09-26 Thread Gregory Georges

Rob is absolutely correct--both cost and user expectations (and available
time) are important factors when making a choice between SilverFast and
Vuescan or any technology for that matter.

The really nice part about Vuescan is it works extremely well with most
scanners. I was suprised to find that it produced excellent scans with my
flatbed scanner when I though I had the film scanner connected. It is nice
to have one software product to just get the job done with any one of
several scanners.

While I get really serious about using SilverFast and all the features, I
have produced similar scans with VueScan or Polarscan with very little
effort. Bottom line is I have little time invested in VueScan and a ton of
time in SilverFast.

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Gregory Georges
www.reallyusefulpage.com


 -Original Message-
 A old question is up again: Vuescan contra Silverfast.
 Vuescan is a good software , Silverfast is a scanning tool.

 Which is great if you can justify the cost difference compared to
 the difference
 in the results.  I'm sure there are pros on the list who could, but I'm
 also sure there's many who can't.

 Rob




Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan

2001-09-25 Thread Barbara Martin Greene

Ian

Initially, I tested out all three software packages with my recently
purchased SS 4000.  The scans I made using Vuescan, after much assistance
from members of this forum, were crisp, sharp, and had colors that were very
close to my slides.  I liked the Silverfast interface, felt it was visually
most attractive and liked the sophistication of its controls.  But, I was
unable to get a crisp, sharp scan.  Not getting that, I didn't pay much
attention to the colors.  On my Mac G4, I used version 5 and also downloaded
and tried the trial version of 5.5.  I faithfully used your tutorial to set
both up.  I found it strange that I couldn't get an acceptable scan.  I very
much would have liked to, and don't understand why I couldn't.  I'd
appreciate any suggestions you have for overcoming the difficulties I
encountered.  Let me know if you need additional information.

 
 Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2001 22:05:48 +0100
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan
 
 
 As for the SS 4000, go with Vuescan.
 Using both Polarscan and Silverfast, I got terrible results.
 
 
 You might wish to try version 5.5. Both Insight and SilverFast will produce
 excellent scans. Insight is VERY easy to use and whilst SilverFast is
 initially quite complex it has the capacity to produce scans from the SS4000
 that VueScan users can only dream about (that's not a criticism of VueScan)
 
 
 
 
 Ian Lyons
 
 http://www.computer-darkroom.com
 
 
 




RE: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan

2001-09-24 Thread Gregory Georges

I'd be curious to know if you tried SilverFast 5.5 or the new PolarColor
software. They made a huge difference for me.

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Barbara  Martin
 Greene
 Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 2:54 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan

 As for the SS 4000, go with Vuescan.
 Using both Polarscan and Silverfast, I got terrible results.  Using the
 latest version of Vuescan with some help from those on the forum who are
 proficient with it, I've gotten great scans with excellent color
 and detail.




Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan

2001-09-24 Thread Ian Lyons


As for the SS 4000, go with Vuescan.
 Using both Polarscan and Silverfast, I got terrible results.


You might wish to try version 5.5. Both Insight and SilverFast will produce
excellent scans. Insight is VERY easy to use and whilst SilverFast is
initially quite complex it has the capacity to produce scans from the SS4000
that VueScan users can only dream about (that's not a criticism of VueScan)




Ian Lyons

http://www.computer-darkroom.com






Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan

2001-09-23 Thread David

Hi,

I have bought Nikon LS-4000 with Silverfast software.
I haven´t received it yet and this is driving me mad. ;-)
I think this software is something similar to Binuscan
Photoperfect. I used to work with this software with
my UMAX Powerlook II and I must recognize that is
impressive, simply the color in the photograph was 
exactly the same in the monitor! Polaroid used this 
software with their Sprintscan scanners and now they´ve
chaged for Silverfast, wow!!! This software must be
a monster. I´ll show you results.

Best regards,

Dave

pd: if you want to see Binsucan software for Sprintscan 4000
http://www.binuscan.com

Mike Stephens wrote:
 
 I've downloaded the Macintosh version of Vuescan, and
 tried to use it, and I'm getting a memory error.  It says
 that it needs 91mb of memory to run?  I have 160mb (just
 ordered 128mb more - will have that in a few days).
 Am I doing something wrong?  I wouldn't think that it
 would need this much memory just to load the software.
 
 Thanks for all the help!
 
 Mike
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
  Barbara  Martin
  Greene
  Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 1:54 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan
 
 
  Mike
 
  No doubt that the documentation is for hunger.  After
  recently returning a
  Nikon Super coolscan 4000 and buying a SS 4000 with the goal of saving
  $1200, I have a basis to compare the two and some advice on
  how to proceed.
  The Nikon software is a pleasure to use, and the documentation, while
  sparse, is clear and to the point.  As for the SS 4000, go
  with Vuescan.
  Using both Polarscan and Silverfast, I got terrible results.
  Using the
  latest version of Vuescan with some help from those on the
  forum who are
  proficient with it, I've gotten great scans with excellent
  color and detail.
  I do wish that the documentation for it was clearer and gave more
  information on how to set the various controls.
 
  Martin
 

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Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan

2001-09-22 Thread Mike Stephens

I just received my new SS 4000, and am wondering the same thing.
Silverfast seems to be pretty powerful, but cumbersome.  How does
it compare to Vuescan in quality (not just functionality)?  I'm looking
for the best quality scans, with minimal fuss.  The Polaroid software
is much easier to use than Silverfast, but doesn't offer nearly the 
amount of functions.  

The scanner is great so far - I just need to figure out how to use it
properly - the documentation is seriously deficient!

Mike



Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan

2001-09-22 Thread Barbara Martin Greene

Mike

No doubt that the documentation is for hunger.  After recently returning a
Nikon Super coolscan 4000 and buying a SS 4000 with the goal of saving
$1200, I have a basis to compare the two and some advice on how to proceed.
The Nikon software is a pleasure to use, and the documentation, while
sparse, is clear and to the point.  As for the SS 4000, go with Vuescan.
Using both Polarscan and Silverfast, I got terrible results.  Using the
latest version of Vuescan with some help from those on the forum who are
proficient with it, I've gotten great scans with excellent color and detail.
I do wish that the documentation for it was clearer and gave more
information on how to set the various controls.

Martin

 From: Mike Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 13:20:54 -0500
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan
 
 I just received my new SS 4000, and am wondering the same thing.
 Silverfast seems to be pretty powerful, but cumbersome.  How does
 it compare to Vuescan in quality (not just functionality)?  I'm looking
 for the best quality scans, with minimal fuss.  The Polaroid software
 is much easier to use than Silverfast, but doesn't offer nearly the
 amount of functions.
 
 The scanner is great so far - I just need to figure out how to use it
 properly - the documentation is seriously deficient!
 
 Mike




Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan

2001-09-22 Thread Tom Scales

Mike,

I can't really comment as I don't have and have never used Silverfast.  I
would suggest, though, download the trial of Vuescan and try it
(www.hamrick.com).  It puts a watermark on it, but it will give you the
idea.

I'm a huge fan of Vuescan and use it for every scan I do.

Tom

 I just received my new SS 4000, and am wondering the same thing.
 Silverfast seems to be pretty powerful, but cumbersome.  How does
 it compare to Vuescan in quality (not just functionality)?  I'm looking
 for the best quality scans, with minimal fuss.  The Polaroid software
 is much easier to use than Silverfast, but doesn't offer nearly the
 amount of functions.

 The scanner is great so far - I just need to figure out how to use it
 properly - the documentation is seriously deficient!

 Mike




Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan

2001-09-22 Thread Chris Hargens

I've had good results using Vuescan with my SS4000 with a minimum of
tweaking -- I usually use the default options. Sure, the help guide is a bit
opaque, but the software engine itself is high quality and worth the small
payment.


- Original Message -
From: Mike Stephens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2001 11:20 AM
Subject: Re: filmscanners: Silverfast or Polarscan


 I just received my new SS 4000, and am wondering the same thing.
 Silverfast seems to be pretty powerful, but cumbersome.  How does
 it compare to Vuescan in quality (not just functionality)?  I'm looking
 for the best quality scans, with minimal fuss.  The Polaroid software
 is much easier to use than Silverfast, but doesn't offer nearly the
 amount of functions.

 The scanner is great so far - I just need to figure out how to use it
 properly - the documentation is seriously deficient!

 Mike