RE: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available
. I've played with all the Vuescan settings for HOURS and HOURS, but I just can't seem to get a nice, rich scan without dragging it in to Photoshop. I've also had the same problems with over brightness, but have been able to work around that issue as you and some of the other posters have suggested. Any advice/explanations on what I might be doing wrong would be appreciated. There is nearly always a problem - at least with negs - in... a) scanning to get the whole range (output looks very low contrast) vs ... b) getting good contrast (end up having to chop off highlights or shadows to achieve this). Normal print processing invariably chops shadows and/or highlights to give a pleasing print. Unless your neg is exceptionally low-contrast (evenly lit) image, you will have this problem in scanning. If you choose small white point and black point settings you will get the full histogram range and a very 'flat' image. This happens no matter whether you use Vuescan or any other software, except that most manufacturer softwares use quite gross black point/white point settings to give a more pleasing contrast result. Since Vuescan gives you full control over this, you can set low BP WP settings, and this will give the flat result you speak of. To demonstrate if this is in fact the problem, you could try setting a much higher black point, say 5% or more, and see if this helps. (based on your saying the image is light). Or try both BP and WP to a much higher value. If this gives you 'better' results then at least you now know the reason! Julian
RE: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available
Yeah, I don't get this tough saturation issue in vuescan. I am a total newbie, with several scanning and PhotoShop books are on the way. I just bought a Canon FS4000 to digitize my shoebox and purchased Vuescan as the canon plugin is totally worthless (at least for batch scanning). Although for scanning one picture, it does a better job. From reading the posts here, I understand Silverfast may be a better choice, but that point is moot, as they don't support the Canon FS4000. I've played with all the Vuescan settings for HOURS and HOURS, but I just can't seem to get a nice, rich scan without dragging it in to Photoshop. I've also had the same problems with over brightness, but have been able to work around that issue as you and some of the other posters have suggested. Any advice/explanations on what I might be doing wrong would be appreciated. Mark -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Alan Womack Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2001 7:47 PM To: Majordomo leben.com Subject: re: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available No, no, that's way too basic an answer, all but the most novice of us know how to use Gamma, but brightness had a more pronounced effect on shadows than gamma does without the side effect of over brighting the top half of the image range. Also playing with Gamma + drops saturation which makes it necessary to pull drastic curves in Photoshop, the brightness allowed a bit of better finese. So I often have white point at .001 and black point at .1 with maximum as my crop, there is VERY little room at the top side of the data for it to get brighter. Saturation is always tough in vuescan. alan What type of adjustment in gamma and the white point % do you suggest for mimicing the effect of Brightness from Vuescan 7.1.16? Adjust gamma downwards to decrease brightness, and upwards to increase brightness. Regards, Ed Hamrick Epson Inkjet Printer FAQ: http://welcome.to/epson-inkjet
Re: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available
Vuescan is designed this way - it's designed to capture ALL possible detail in the shadows and highlights, so the resulting image will be bland. It's left to PhotoShop or your preferred image editing program to do all end-clipping that you wish, and adjust the colors and luminance for rich colors. Maris - Original Message - From: Mark Van Buskirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2001 9:30 AM Subject: RE: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available [snipped] | I've played | with all the Vuescan settings for HOURS and HOURS, but I just can't seem to | get a nice, rich scan without dragging it in to Photoshop. I've also had | the same problems with over brightness, but have been able to work around | that issue as you and some of the other posters have suggested.
Re: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available
In a message dated 9/30/2001 9:38:01 AM EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've played with all the Vuescan settings for HOURS and HOURS, but I just can't seem to get a nice, rich scan without dragging it in to Photoshop. I've also had the same problems with over brightness, but have been able to work around that issue as you and some of the other posters have suggested. The trick is to first experiment with Color|White point (%) and Color|Black point (%) options, then the the Color|Gamma option. Regards, Ed Hamrick
Re: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available
Mark Van Buskirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but that point is moot, as they don't support the Canon FS4000. I've played with all the Vuescan settings for HOURS and HOURS, but I just can't seem to get a nice, rich scan without dragging it in to Photoshop. Unless the story has changed, AIUI the purpose of Vuescan was to get the most data out of the scanner and into a file which can then be tweaked in Photoshop. If you're expecting the output from Vuescan to already be the finished product I think you'll be disappointed. I find that doing a quick levels adjustment usually brings the colour to where it should be. Rob
re: filmscanners: VueScan 7.1.17 Available
No, no, that's way too basic an answer, all but the most novice of us know how to use Gamma, but brightness had a more pronounced effect on shadows than gamma does without the side effect of over brighting the top half of the image range. Also playing with Gamma + drops saturation which makes it necessary to pull drastic curves in Photoshop, the brightness allowed a bit of better finese. So I often have white point at .001 and black point at .1 with maximum as my crop, there is VERY little room at the top side of the data for it to get brighter. Saturation is always tough in vuescan. alan What type of adjustment in gamma and the white point % do you suggest for mimicing the effect of Brightness from Vuescan 7.1.16? Adjust gamma downwards to decrease brightness, and upwards to increase brightness. Regards, Ed Hamrick Epson Inkjet Printer FAQ: http://welcome.to/epson-inkjet
