RE: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question
It will also hurt used sales of these...or create bargains for people who don't mind living with the defect. What a shame. > It's probably the usual problem of someone (or several people) quite > influential in the organisation either not understanding the full > implications of the issue or not wanting to admit they screwed > up. Therefore > they are not prepared to find the resource (ultimately money) to fix it. > They will often pretend it doesn't exist. The argument usually > goes "We sell > lots of units with few returns, so what's the problem". > > Typical short term profit view. > > Steve > > > > I hate to say it this way, but that is just SO pathetic! From what I > > > understand, fixing it would require a firmware modification to both > > > calibrate three lines instead of one, and then to use three > calibration > > > lines instead of one. Having written a LOT of embedded firmware, and > > > designed a few scanners, I just can't imagine what their > problem is. My > > > only guess is there is something else that prohibits them from fixing > > > it...what, I don't know... Did they happen to mention WHY they won't > fix > > > it? > > > > > > > Austin, > > > > I was never able to get a straight answer from them. Big surprise ;-0 > > Seemed pretty lame to me too... > > > > Lawrence
Re: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question
It's probably the usual problem of someone (or several people) quite influential in the organisation either not understanding the full implications of the issue or not wanting to admit they screwed up. Therefore they are not prepared to find the resource (ultimately money) to fix it. They will often pretend it doesn't exist. The argument usually goes "We sell lots of units with few returns, so what's the problem". Typical short term profit view. Steve - Original Message - From: "Lawrence Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "filmscanners halftone.co.uk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 5:52 PM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question > > > > > I hate to say it this way, but that is just SO pathetic! From what I > > understand, fixing it would require a firmware modification to both > > calibrate three lines instead of one, and then to use three calibration > > lines instead of one. Having written a LOT of embedded firmware, and > > designed a few scanners, I just can't imagine what their problem is. My > > only guess is there is something else that prohibits them from fixing > > it...what, I don't know... Did they happen to mention WHY they won't fix > > it? > > > > Austin, > > I was never able to get a straight answer from them. Big surprise ;-0 > Seemed pretty lame to me too... > > Lawrence > > -- > Lawrence W. Smith Photography > http://www.lwsphoto.com > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > -- > > >
RE: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question
George, There are links to several reviews from the following Polaroid web page. http://home.polaroid.co.uk/sprintscan/ Additionally Ian Lyons has done a review on his web page. www.computer-darkroom.com David -Original Message- From: G. R Harrison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 3:42 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:RE: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question I wonder if there is anyone who has experience of the Sprintscan 120 from Polaroid? In particular, how does it compare with Nikon 8000 ED? Are there any pitfalls about attaching this scanner to a fairly normal PC? George Harrison
Re: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question
> Thats not good if big enlargements are required and I don't think that I > could put up with that. Ill contact Nikon (Maxwells) now and see if they > have come up with a fix or intend to come up with a fix. I have an 8000 and I've had banding on maybe half a dozen images out of hundreds scanned. The "fix", if you could call it that, is to scan in superfine mode. There is a slight quality increase in superfine mode, so it's not a bad trade-off. I'd much rather have ICE and GEM available, and occasionally scan in superfine mode when needed, than not to have those features at all.
Re: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question
> > only guess is there is something else that prohibits them from fixing > > it...what, I don't know... Did they happen to mention WHY they won't fix > > it? > > > > Austin, > > I was never able to get a straight answer from them. Big surprise ;-0 > Seemed pretty lame to me too... > > Lawrence The following is on the web site here. LOL. You should note the question contains the word "sometimes" and "minimise" and a disclaimer at the end. They only have 4 FAQ's on the web site and this is one. Its an obvious problem to them which they want to ignore. LS-8000 Frequently Asked Questions (Last modified: (11/10/2001) This document (11414)is provided subject to the disclaimer at the end of this document. Question. Sometimes I get very fine lines in my final scan. Is there a way to minimise this? Answer Yes. In Tool Palette>Scanner Extras tick the check box beside Extra Fine Scan Mode. This will remove the fine lines but overall the scan time will be longer. Document Title: 8000_scanline Document ID: 11414_ls8000_jw.html Creation Date: 11/10/01 Modified Date: 11/10/01 Document Revision: 1 Cheers Rob
Re: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question
Thanks Lawrence Thats not good if big enlargements are required and I don't think that I could put up with that. Ill contact Nikon (Maxwells) now and see if they have come up with a fix or intend to come up with a fix. Should be interesting. Ill post there reply. Rob Lawrence wrote: > > Where could I find a reference pic showing this banding or > > could someone email me a sample (small) please. > > http://www.lwsphoto.com/banding.htm > > > > > Should I go ahead with the purchase? or buy a SS120 and > > forget the ICE. > > > > Rob > > > >
RE: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question
I wonder if there is anyone who has experience of the Sprintscan 120 from Polaroid? In particular, how does it compare with Nikon 8000 ED? Are there any pitfalls about attaching this scanner to a fairly normal PC? George Harrison
RE: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question
Lawrence. Curious. I have seen exactly the same banding on my Artixscan 400T when scanning one set of Kodachrome 64 slides, all being of the same subject. But not on any other slides. Leif. > -Original Message- > From: Lawrence [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Thursday, November 22, 2001 2:29 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question > > > > Where could I find a reference pic showing this banding or > > could someone email me a sample (small) please. > > > http://www.lwsphoto.com/banding.htm > > > > > Should I go ahead with the purchase? or buy a SS120 and > > forget the ICE. > > > > Rob > > > > *** The information contained in this e-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. It is intended only for the stated addressee(s) and access to it by any other person is unauthorised. If you are not an addressee, you must not disclose, copy, circulate or in any other way use or rely on the information contained in this e-mail. Such unauthorised use may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail in error, please inform RACAL INSTRUMENTS LTD. immediately by phoning +44 (0)1628 604455 (ask for the I.T. dept) and delete it and all copies from your system. ***
Re: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question
> > I hate to say it this way, but that is just SO pathetic! From what I > understand, fixing it would require a firmware modification to both > calibrate three lines instead of one, and then to use three calibration > lines instead of one. Having written a LOT of embedded firmware, and > designed a few scanners, I just can't imagine what their problem is. My > only guess is there is something else that prohibits them from fixing > it...what, I don't know... Did they happen to mention WHY they won't fix > it? > Austin, I was never able to get a straight answer from them. Big surprise ;-0 Seemed pretty lame to me too... Lawrence -- Lawrence W. Smith Photography http://www.lwsphoto.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] --
RE: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question
> > Does anyone think that Nikon will fix or can it be rectified > > with Firmware or software? > > I was told by a senior manager at Nikon that it would not be fixed in > this scanner. That's why I bought a drum scanner (an amazing machine) > and nikon took my 8000 back. I hate to say it this way, but that is just SO pathetic! From what I understand, fixing it would require a firmware modification to both calibrate three lines instead of one, and then to use three calibration lines instead of one. Having written a LOT of embedded firmware, and designed a few scanners, I just can't imagine what their problem is. My only guess is there is something else that prohibits them from fixing it...what, I don't know... Did they happen to mention WHY they won't fix it?
RE: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question
> Where could I find a reference pic showing this banding or > could someone email me a sample (small) please. http://www.lwsphoto.com/banding.htm > > Should I go ahead with the purchase? or buy a SS120 and > forget the ICE. > > Rob > >
RE: filmscanners: Re: LS8000 Banding Question
> Have not being able to run any tests to confirm the as > mentioned the LS8000 > has banding problems Is this a critical defect with this > scanner? (except > in fine mode scan) Yes, it is > > Does anyone think that Nikon will fix or can it be rectified > with Firmware or software? I was told by a senior manager at Nikon that it would not be fixed in this scanner. That's why I bought a drum scanner (an amazing machine) and nikon took my 8000 back. > > Where could I find a reference pic showing this banding or > could someone email me a sample (small) please. > > Should I go ahead with the purchase? or buy a SS120 and > forget the ICE. I'd go for the SS120. Lawrence http://www.lwsphoto.com
