Re: filmscanners: Adobe Elements
One more Windows only application... Macintosh users have made Adobe's reputation but they are now treated as second class clients. I know what I'm talking about as I'm a Photoshop power user since v.2 now working with a buggy 6.0 version... Believe me, the PC versions of Photoshop are hardly bug free either, so misery loves company. Us PC users used to groan about the fact that PS was written on the Mac and then ported over to Windows. I don't know what they write it on now, but, as good as it is, it is not perfect here either. ...Hey, have you noticed the grass... I could swear it's a lot greener in Photoshop on a Mac than on a PC ... ;-) Art
RE: filmscanners: Adobe Elements
I think MAC users are going to become more like 4x5 users - Ilford has discontinued Delta 400 in sheet film "due to lack of demand for the product". A dying breed :) Tim a -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Raymond Carles Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Adobe Elements On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:08:23 -0600, Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote: For those interested, per CNET: "Adobe recently released Photoshop Elements, a new image editor that combines power with simplicity into a single, low-cost graphics package. Try it out here: http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10077-108-75428.html Maris One more Windows only application... Macintosh users have made Adobe's reputation but they are now treated as second class clients. I know what I'm talking about as I'm a Photoshop power user since v.2 now working with a buggy 6.0 version... -- Have a good day! Raymond Carles
Re: filmscanners: Adobe Elements
On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:08:23 -0600, Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote: For those interested, per CNET: "Adobe recently released Photoshop Elements, a new image editor that combines power with simplicity into a single, low-cost graphics package. Try it out here: http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10077-108-75428.html Maris One more Windows only application... Macintosh users have made Adobe's reputation but they are now treated as second class clients. I know what I'm talking about as I'm a Photoshop power user since v.2 now working with a buggy 6.0 version... -- Have a good day! Raymond Carles
Re: filmscanners: Adobe Elements
Adobe Elements will be released as both platform on the CD. It's release spells the death of Photoshop LE and the intention is for it to be bundled with scanners/cameras as LE currently is. Larry One more Windows only application... Macintosh users have made Adobe's reputation but they are now treated as second class clients. I know what I'm talking about as I'm a Photoshop power user since v.2 now working with a buggy 6.0 version... ::: Larry Berman Web Sites for Artists: http://BermanGraphics.com Digital Infrared at: http://IRDreams.com Compare Image Compression from the top Graphics Programs: http://ImageCompress.com Explore the Art Show Jury process from a web site: http://ArtShowJury.com :::
Re: filmscanners: Adobe Elements
I wasn't aware that Mac users needed a simple, introductory graphics package. There are a ton of imaging software programs for the Mac, and many of them are Mac only. Take Graphic Converter, as but one example of Mac only imaging software. http://www.lemkesoft.com Programs to analyze gamuts, management of ICC profiles, and all sorts of color management tools are - for the most part - initially only on Mac platforms. And this is largely because Microsoft has - for the most part - neglected color management, and its implications. Their focus has been elsewhere. Adobe gets around this by programming their own color management into PS - - to boost the nascent Windows offering. I'm sure for additional programming cost. Adobe is firmly dedicated to the Mac platform; all Adobe products will become "carbonized" by late summer, meaning available to OS X, as well as OS 9.1. In addition, the new Photoshop V7. will contain features which will not be available on Windows until at least 6 months later. All of this has been revealed to the public. Incidentally, the upcoming release of Microsoft Office for (Mac) OS X will also have features not available on Windows immediately. I suspect in this case it is because of MS's upcoming release of "Windows X" which will permit "competitive" features. Not that there aren't enough features in Office already. Windows people are only beginning to become involved - as a mainstream - in image manipulation. Need something simple to start with, perhaps something simpler than Photoshop LE. But this is good, because the public in general will acquire imaging knowledge that Mac people have had for some time. Now, if we could only get repro houses in the UK educated on CM - - Suspect that Adobe's marketing research had found this, and their reason for dedicating the below to Windows only. In the entire imaging, multi-media, graphics industry, I don't feel neglected using a Mac. If you are doing CAD work in engineering, then it is a different story. But not in the above industries. On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:08:23 -0600, Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote: For those interested, per CNET: "Adobe recently released Photoshop Elements, a new image editor that combines power with simplicity into a single, low-cost graphics package. Try it out here: http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10077-108-75428.html Maris One more Windows only application... Macintosh users have made Adobe's reputation but they are now treated as second class clients. I know what I'm talking about as I'm a Photoshop power user since v.2 now working with a buggy 6.0 version... -- Have a good day! Raymond Carles
Re: filmscanners: Adobe Elements
Larry wrote: Adobe Elements will be released as both platform on the CD. It's release spells the death of Photoshop LE and the intention is for it to be bundled with scanners/cameras as LE currently is. Death may be too easy an "out" for LE, but the fact is that the $499US upgrade is a little steep for amateurs. I really hope Adobe thinks this out a bit--it's an excellent program and a "must" for professionals, but their "self esteem" lacks modesty, which ain't good. Best regards--LRA PS--the EULA mentioned in earlier posts *is not* available in the USA, except for special "bundles." --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
Re: filmscanners: Adobe Elements
Richard wrote: There are a ton of imaging software programs for the Mac, and many of them are Mac onlyPrograms to analyze gamuts, management of ICC profiles, and all sorts of color management tools are - for the most part - initially only on Mac platforms. Apple and Mac have led the way in print-production software. Nobody needs to question that, because it's quite evident. That's not to say it's the best, but that they have the most momentum, and Adobe with them. And good for them. all Adobe products will become "carbonized" by late summer, meaning available to OS X, as well as OS 9.1. In addition, the new Photoshop V7. will contain features which will not be available on Windows until at least 6 months later. I have very bad memories of Adobe "ports" to PC--nearly unusable, as I recall. I really hope we're not going back into that mode again!!! Software mfgrs need to remember that we're a "working community" out here (not me, I retired)--As such, We'll appreciate those who support us, and "remember" those who didn't. And I remember Adobe and Microsoft, *very well*. Hoping your predictions don't come true--LRA --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
RE: filmscanners: Adobe Elements
Nuh, unh, Tim. Macs are good machines! Pricey, but good. Let's not start another G**ded flame war! Best regards--LRA --Original Message-- From: "Tim Atherton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 28, 2001 5:00:11 PM GMT Subject: RE: filmscanners: Adobe Elements I think MAC users are going to become more like 4x5 users - Ilford has discontinued Delta 400 in sheet film "due to lack of demand for the product". A dying breed :) Tim a -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Raymond Carles Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Adobe Elements On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:08:23 -0600, Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote: For those interested, per CNET: "Adobe recently released Photoshop Elements, a new image editor that combines power with simplicity into a single, low-cost graphics package. Try it out here: http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10077-108-75428.html Maris One more Windows only application... Macintosh users have made Adobe's reputation but they are now treated as second class clients. I know what I'm talking about as I'm a Photoshop power user since v.2 now working with a buggy 6.0 version... -- Have a good day! Raymond Carles --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
Re: filmscanners: Adobe Elements
I have been on the site ... and there was a mark for Mac ... why Windoze only ? Sincerely. Ezio www.lucenti.com e-photography site - Original Message - From: "Lynn Allen" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2001 12:59 AM Subject: RE: filmscanners: Adobe Elements Nuh, unh, Tim. Macs are good machines! Pricey, but good. Let's not start another G**ded flame war! Best regards--LRA --Original Message-- From: "Tim Atherton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: March 28, 2001 5:00:11 PM GMT Subject: RE: filmscanners: Adobe Elements I think MAC users are going to become more like 4x5 users - Ilford has discontinued Delta 400 in sheet film "due to lack of demand for the product". A dying breed :) Tim a -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Raymond Carles Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 9:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Adobe Elements On Wed, 28 Mar 2001 00:08:23 -0600, Maris V. Lidaka, Sr. wrote: For those interested, per CNET: "Adobe recently released Photoshop Elements, a new image editor that combines power with simplicity into a single, low-cost graphics package. Try it out here: http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0-10077-108-75428.html Maris One more Windows only application... Macintosh users have made Adobe's reputation but they are now treated as second class clients. I know what I'm talking about as I'm a Photoshop power user since v.2 now working with a buggy 6.0 version... -- Have a good day! Raymond Carles --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
RE: filmscanners: Adobe Elements
They add up how many jelly beans they get from each platform, and guess who wins hands down? Frank Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://albums.photopoint.com/j/AlbumList?u=62684 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Raymond Carles Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2001 8:44 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Adobe Elements One more Windows only application... Macintosh users have made Adobe's reputation but they are now treated as second class clients. I know what I'm talking about as I'm a Photoshop power user since v.2 now working with a buggy 6.0 version... -- Have a good day! Raymond Carles
