Re: filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint
As I have said before, I am new to scanning. I am in a learning mode. Working with flatbed scanners...HP ScanJet IIC Microtek SlimScan C6...with the HP Microtek bundled software...using both VuePrint Pro_32 and Photoshop 5.0, when I scan, I have to close out the HP or Microtek software to work with the image. Am I overlooking something? Can I work differently with other scanners? If so, which ones? Can I scan directly into VuePrint Pro_32 or Photoshop 5.0 with different settings or different scanners? This seems to be the case from some of the messages that I read on the list, but I have not figured out how to do this with my scanners. Marvin Demuth
Re: filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint
I assume you are opening VuePrint or Photoshop first and then using the Acquire menu item in the File list to start the TWAIN software and scan the image. I am not familiar with the HP or Microtek software so I don't know the answer to your question, but in my use of Corel PhotoPaint and the Epson flatbed TWAIN it had the option in PhotoPaint to either close the TWAIN after the scan or leave it open. You may have such a setting in your software. Re the messages on the list, most I think are concerning Vuescan, which does not use the scanner's TWAIN. Using Vuescan, you would open Vuescan and make your scans exporting them into PhotoShop or VuePrint at your option, and Vuescan would meanwhile remain open until you choose to close it. Maris - Original Message - From: Marvin Demuth To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2001 10:46 AM Subject: Re: filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint As I have said before, I am new to scanning. I am in a learning mode. Working with flatbed scanners...HP ScanJet IIC Microtek SlimScan C6...with the HP Microtek bundled software...using both VuePrint Pro_32 and Photoshop 5.0, when I scan, I have to close out the HP or Microtek software to work with the image. Am I overlooking something? Can I work differently with other scanners? If so, which ones? Can I scan directly into VuePrint Pro_32 or Photoshop 5.0 with different settings or different scanners? This seems to be the case from some of the messages that I read on the list, but I have not figured out how to do this with my scanners. Marvin Demuth
RE: filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint
Hi, Marvin-- I think that Ira's idea of the digital camera (instead of a one-size-fits-all film-scanner, which isn't really available) is a very good idea. I'd thought of it myself, but 18-months ago it wasn't a workable option. Possibly now it is. Vis-a-vis a copy-board, you only need to be sure all your (reflector-type) lights are at a perfect 45-degree angle to the copy to avoid bad reflections. Vis-a-vis shooting negs and trannies, that the light is greatly disipated with no spill (a good milk-glass or fine-sanded glass filter over your light source, given a bit of distance and some black velvet, will do that). Seems to me that you could also photograph slides rear-projected on a fine-cheesecloth scrim using a remote slide-changer. Old movies used to be done that way (now they project from projector to recorder, which is a whole 'nother matter). It sounds like a very interesting (and fun) project. I'm grateful that in my own project, I didn't have the med-format negs and trans to cope with! Saving to 800x600ppi also gives you a better target, although it will raise questions of its own. By all means, look at Larry Berman's pages (op cit). If you don't have a storage problem, JPEG at nearly the max--it saves on decision time! :-) Like the man said, Wish I had that setup when I started! :-) Good luck Best regards--LRA --Original Message-- From: Marvin Demuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: May 28, 2001 12:57:35 PM GMT Subject: filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint My current project is to take a large collection of multi-format negatives and transparencies (35mm to 4x5), bw color prints (billfold to 8x10) to scan them into JPEG for insertion into PowerPoint 2000 slides for full frame projection via DLP (Digital Light Processing) at 600x800 pixels. I have started with the flat art and have found the process slower than I would like for it to be. I love the concept of looking through a 35mm single lens reflex finder, composing the photo, exposing the photo and then quickly moving to the next subject. Is there any scanning process that accommodates this approach? Any one have ideas as to ways to approach this project? Has any one handled a large project of this type? If so, how did you approach the project? Marvin Demuth --- FREE! The World's Best Email Address @email.com Reserve your name now at http://www.email.com
filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint
My current project is to take a large collection of multi-format negatives and transparencies (35mm to 4x5), bw color prints (billfold to 8x10) to scan them into JPEG for insertion into PowerPoint 2000 slides for full frame projection via DLP (Digital Light Processing) at 600x800 pixels. I have started with the flat art and have found the process slower than I would like for it to be. I love the concept of looking through a 35mm single lens reflex finder, composing the photo, exposing the photo and then quickly moving to the next subject. Is there any scanning process that accommodates this approach? Any one have ideas as to ways to approach this project? Has any one handled a large project of this type? If so, how did you approach the project? Marvin Demuth
Re: filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint
I would think that a digital camera with Macro and Zoom capabilities on a copy stand would do a great job on the flat copy. Obviously lighting would have to be balanced for color and glare to get the best results. One of the cameras with an LCD viewfinder that rotates off the lens axis like the Nikon 990 etc. would work. I think it is also possible to set up the camera to preview to a monitor. I don't have a specific camera to suggest but in the days when I did film/slide presentations we would have loved such a setup. The negatives and transparencies are another issue. Although I believe some users have had success with a similiar setup to the above and shooting down through the film into a light box. But the quality will not be as good as a film scanner. Ira Ira Beckoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Marvin Demuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 8:57 AM Subject: filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint My current project is to take a large collection of multi-format negatives and transparencies (35mm to 4x5), bw color prints (billfold to 8x10) to scan them into JPEG for insertion into PowerPoint 2000 slides for full frame projection via DLP (Digital Light Processing) at 600x800 pixels. I have started with the flat art and have found the process slower than I would like for it to be. I love the concept of looking through a 35mm single lens reflex finder, composing the photo, exposing the photo and then quickly moving to the next subject. Is there any scanning process that accommodates this approach? Any one have ideas as to ways to approach this project? Has any one handled a large project of this type? If so, how did you approach the project? Marvin Demuth
Re: filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint
At 11:19 28/05/01 -0400, you wrote: I would think that a digital camera with Macro and Zoom capabilities on a copy stand would do a great job on the flat copy. Obviously lighting would have to be balanced for color and glare to get the best results. One of the cameras with an LCD viewfinder that rotates off the lens axis like the Nikon 990 etc. would work. I think it is also possible to set up the camera to preview to a monitor. I don't have a specific camera to suggest but in the days when I did film/slide presentations we would have loved such a setup. The negatives and transparencies are another issue. I cant speak about negatives but I am sure Fuji make a device you fit on the front of a digital camera and insert the slide in to it and copy on to the digital camera Stuart Although I believe some users have had success with a similiar setup to the above and shooting down through the film into a light box. But the quality will not be as good as a film scanner. Ira Ira Beckoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Marvin Demuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 8:57 AM Subject: filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint My current project is to take a large collection of multi-format negatives and transparencies (35mm to 4x5), bw color prints (billfold to 8x10) to scan them into JPEG for insertion into PowerPoint 2000 slides for full frame projection via DLP (Digital Light Processing) at 600x800 pixels. I have started with the flat art and have found the process slower than I would like for it to be. I love the concept of looking through a 35mm single lens reflex finder, composing the photo, exposing the photo and then quickly moving to the next subject. Is there any scanning process that accommodates this approach? Any one have ideas as to ways to approach this project? Has any one handled a large project of this type? If so, how did you approach the project? Marvin Demuth
Re: filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint
why didntr I think of that, this lurker now has a solution, thanks
RE: filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint
I would think that a digital camera with Macro and Zoom capabilities on a copy stand would do a great job on the flat copy. Obviously lighting would have to be balanced for color and glare to get the best results. With traditional film based copy set-up, one can use polarizing filtration (single and double polarization) and several other lighting and filtering techniques to handle various problems which come up when copying flat art such as shadows cast by textured papers, glare when you need to put the original under glass, silvering out problems on bw prints, etc. One can also use a variety of film types ( especially if your set-up uses a large format camera) to deal with factors such as increased or decreased contrast in the original and the like. Question: How do digital cameras in a copy set-up work with things like 1) single and double polarization of lenses and/or lights or of both; 2) the use of color correction filtration over the lens or over the lights when copying reflective originals in both bw and color; 3) the use of grazing side lighting to bring out texture in original artwork - like oil paintings - where it is important to show it; and 4) the use of contrasty lighting as opposed to soft flat lighting of the subject? Has anyone explored these things? I haven't because I do not own a digital camera; but I am interested for possible future use when considering the purchase of a digital camera. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ira Beckoff Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 10:20 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint I would think that a digital camera with Macro and Zoom capabilities on a copy stand would do a great job on the flat copy. Obviously lighting would have to be balanced for color and glare to get the best results. One of the cameras with an LCD viewfinder that rotates off the lens axis like the Nikon 990 etc. would work. I think it is also possible to set up the camera to preview to a monitor. I don't have a specific camera to suggest but in the days when I did film/slide presentations we would have loved such a setup. The negatives and transparencies are another issue. Although I believe some users have had success with a similiar setup to the above and shooting down through the film into a light box. But the quality will not be as good as a film scanner. Ira Ira Beckoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Marvin Demuth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 28, 2001 8:57 AM Subject: filmscanners: Large collection - full frame projection via DLP PowerPoint My current project is to take a large collection of multi-format negatives and transparencies (35mm to 4x5), bw color prints (billfold to 8x10) to scan them into JPEG for insertion into PowerPoint 2000 slides for full frame projection via DLP (Digital Light Processing) at 600x800 pixels. I have started with the flat art and have found the process slower than I would like for it to be. I love the concept of looking through a 35mm single lens reflex finder, composing the photo, exposing the photo and then quickly moving to the next subject. Is there any scanning process that accommodates this approach? Any one have ideas as to ways to approach this project? Has any one handled a large project of this type? If so, how did you approach the project? Marvin Demuth
