Re: [Finale] Re: Longhorn
At 7:48 AM -0400 5/25/04, Phil Daley wrote: At 5/24/2004 02:46 PM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: Oo, I'll take this one! If I can SEE a tool, and be able to click on it easily, while seeing the score underneath it, this saves mondo clicking to un-shade and re-shade the tool palette. If it takes one click to roll down the window shade, then I have to move the mouse to the tool, then move the mouse to re-shade again, that's three clicks and some index movement that I would be able to replace with one click and little or no mouse movement. Nope. No clicks involved with Windows Enhanced Secondary Windows (roll ups or ESWs). Just move the mouse over them and they pop open, move the mouse away and they roll up. Ah. I think we Mac users were comparing the Windows version (about which we know little) to OUR known value, WindowShade from OS9, which uses a click. The implementation as you describe seems very good. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] TAN: MusicPad Pro Plus
At 10:27 PM -0600 5/24/04, Bruce Petherick wrote: Content-type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-39411736; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT At 05:24 PM 24/05/2004, you wrote: The actual unit runs on Linux software, all of which is updatable via downloads from their web site. The original software released to the public had a utility program that allowed one to open up a linux 'ash' shell (I think it was 'ash') and do just about anything one could ordinarily do with a shell (limited to the number of programs available). probably a bash shell. Hmmm that is good. Anything with a bash shell can be hacked into and changed. Maybe I can do transposition! How would you work out transposition of TIFF files or PDFs? I didn't know that was possible. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] test
Thanks, Carl BF Carl Dershem wrote: Bob Florence wrote: test This message appears to have gotten through. BY the way - belated Happy Birthday. :) cd ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] a new Mac
Hi all: This is my year to purchase a new Mac. Is there an upgrade of the G5 appearing soon? Thanks: BF ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Longhorn
At 5/25/2004 12:45 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 25 May 2004, at 07:48 AM, Phil Daley wrote: Nope. No clicks involved with Windows Enhanced Secondary Windows (roll ups or ESWs). Just move the mouse over them and they pop open, move the mouse away and they roll up. Regardless, I would still have to move the mouse to the top of the window to get it to expand, right? No. ESWs usually roll-up left to right or right to left. So you can mouse over at the bottom of the window if you want. And if I accidentally mouse off of the window, it collapses immediately, right? There is a short delay before it scrolls up. I believe the time is user settable, but I don't use them that much. I don't see how that's better than an automatically fading transparent palette, where I can always (faintly) see the control I want to adjust and move directly to that part of the palette. I don't believe I said it was better than anything. I have never used a transparent window, so I don't know how they work. It sounds useless to me, but I have no experience with them. And I think a gradual fade-away after I move the mouse back is more elegant and intuitive than an abrupt window collapse. Whatever. Phil Daley AutoDesk http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Longhorn
On 25 May 2004, at 12:55 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Regardless, I would still have to move the mouse to the top of the window to get it to expand, right? And if I accidentally mouse off of the window, it collapses immediately, right? I don't see how that's better than an automatically fading transparent palette, where I can always (faintly) see the control I want to adjust and move directly to that part of the palette. And I think a gradual fade-away after I move the mouse back is more elegant and intuitive than an abrupt window collapse. Well, you're assuming that the roll-up is immediate and happens as soon as the mouse is off the window. If the transparency can be programmed to fade, the roll-up can be programmed to be delayed until a certain time after the mouse is off the window. Right -- Phil Daley said the timing was user-adjustable, as well. Also, when he first described this, I was thinking it would be more like those annoying javascript(?) roll-down menus on web pages. If it's more like auto-hiding on the OS X Dock, well, that's better -- but the Dock is much simpler than the formatting palette in Office, or even the Finale tool palette. Something Dock-like wouldn't work with two rows of buttons, and it doesn't even work that well with more than, say, seven or eight items in it. (Which is why I don't keep anything in the Dock permanently -- I use DragThing as my launcher, and reserve the Dock for currently running applications only.) I do have a question: is the gradual fade out something that's provided by OS X's transparency support? Yes -- I mean, there's support for every level of transparency from 1% to 100%, so it's not hard to build a timer that fades gradually down to a user-defined level. Although as far as I know, MS Office 2004 Mac is the only app to actually implement this feature. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn NY ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Longhorn
On 25 May 2004, at 01:03 PM, Phil Daley wrote: At 5/25/2004 12:45 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Regardless, I would still have to move the mouse to the top of the window to get it to expand, right? No. ESWs usually roll-up left to right or right to left. Oh, okay. That sounds less like windowshade and more like the auto-hide feature on the Dock. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn NY ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: TAN: MusicPad Pro Plus and MuseBook Score
The current version of the FreeHand MusicPad Pro stores music as images. There's no MusicXML or other music format present. If you want an electronic music stand that does use MusicXML, recognizes the music as you play it, and turns the pages for you automatically, check out the MuseBook Score: http://www.musebook.com This is the first commercial electronic music stand product that we have seen with musical intelligence built in. It just started shipping for piano and MIDI keyboards, supporting piano/keyboard music. So you can work on a piano piece in Finale, export it to MusicXML, and read the music into your MuseBook. I just demoed this last week when giving a guest lecture at Stanford and it worked just as advertised. Unlike the MusicPad Pro, the MuseBook is a Windows software program. So you can use your laptop as a music stand for your MIDI keyboard. My laptop shows three systems of music at a time with no problems in landscape mode. If you want to use it with a piano, you'll probably want to use it on a Tablet PC and display in portrait mode. Both products have features that the other one doesn't. But naturally we're very excited to see an electronic music stand that uses a music format rather than an image format. As Mark mentioned, MusicXML was designed to make this type of innovative application easier to build and bring to market. So it's great to see it succeeding this way! Best regards, Michael Good Recordare LLC www.recordare.com ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: TAN: MusicPad Pro Plus and MuseBook Score
In a message dated 25/05/2004 19:39:26 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: How bad does your playing have to be before the page-turner gets lost? If you miss a lot of notes will you be stuck on that page until you get it right? How does it know whether it's you or your bumper who is sticking in all the duff notes? Can it not be fitted with a loudspeaker so that it can yell the correct fingerings at you after you messed up three times? Can it be fitted with a mouth I can punch when I'm sick of it's rantings? All the best, Lawrence "þaes ofereode - þisses swa maeg"http://lawrenceyates.co.uk ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] White notes
I copied some music from one file to another. In File #1 the music was in Layer 2; in File #2 I wanted it in Layer 1 with the rest of the music. When I moved the contents of Layer 2 into Layer 1 the notes appeared in white instead of black. What do I need to do to get these notes to turn black? Thanks, --Lynn -- Lynn Gold net.fogey[EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Writer, Protego Networks (weekdays)-- day job News Anchor, KLIV-AM (weekends) -- second job Singer, Songwriter, and Punster at Large -- even when they don't pay me ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: hard drive dying!
Thanks to all who continued sending advice while my computer is in the shop. It's too late, now... I've replaced the original drive with another of equal size (I had only used 8 of its 40 GB, and I can't concieve ever needing a larger), and had the repair people restore my data, wh. they seem to have done well, save that a lot of prefs. etc. seem to have been lost, as I feared. Too late to do anything else, now... ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: hard drive dying!
Hi Andrew, Sorry about the prefs, etc., but glad that everything's working now. One thing that's definitely worth checking... and I mention this because I spent yesterday working on a friend's G4 whose motherboard had just been replaced -- go to http://www.macosxcocktail.com/ and download the latest version of Cocktail. Cocktail is an excellent disk utility to have in any event -- run the pilot regularly -- but there is one additional benefit that will be of particular use in your current situation. It will tell you right away if the people who restored your data installed the BSD subsystem or not. (If not, Cocktail won't run.) When I was working on my friend's Mac, I discovered that whoever replaced her motherboard reinstalled Panther *without* the BSD subsystem (god knows why, presumably to save time, or something). She wanted to run apps that needed BSD, so we had to reinstall the entire OS. The BSD subsystem is an optional install, but it is required for many applications (like, for instance, Cocktail, and -- I think -- both iKey and QuicKeys). Hopefully, the people who restored your data weren't as lazy/misguided/whatever as the people who replaced my friend's motherboard, and the BSD subsystem was correctly installed after they replaced your drive. But it's worth checking now -- if it's not there, I can guarantee you'll run in to problems down the road if you don't reinstall Panther + BSD now. (It is installed by default if you do an Easy Install instead of a Custom Install.) - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn NY On 25 May 2004, at 04:06 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: Thanks to all who continued sending advice while my computer is in the shop. It's too late, now... I've replaced the original drive with another of equal size (I had only used 8 of its 40 GB, and I can't concieve ever needing a larger), and had the repair people restore my data, wh. they seem to have done well, save that a lot of prefs. etc. seem to have been lost, as I feared. Too late to do anything else, now... ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: hard drive dying!
Oh, here's Apple's tech note about the BSD subsystem: If you choose not to install the BSD Subsystem in a custom installation of Mac OS X, you cannot share files via File Transfer Protocol (FTP), share your Internet connection via Internet Sharing, use Secure Shell (SSH) or Telnet, or locate services via Rendezvous. http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106472 - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn NY ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Acciaccatura
Your example is just a rolled chord, no? -- David W. Fenton An acciacatura differs from a rolled chord in that it contains an additional, dissonant note that unlike the chord itself is not sustained beyond the completion of the roll. (Technically, the acciacatura consists only of the dissonant note itself, not the chord into which it is introduced.) -- Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Acciaccatura
On 25 May 2004 at 16:55, Andrew Stiller wrote: Your example is just a rolled chord, no? -- David W. Fenton An acciacatura differs from a rolled chord in that it contains an additional, dissonant note that unlike the chord itself is not sustained beyond the completion of the roll. (Technically, the acciacatura consists only of the dissonant note itself, not the chord into which it is introduced.) But the slash does not exclusively indicate anything but the rolled chord. The added dissonance is not implied by that symbol itself, but by the context. -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associateshttp://www.bway.net/~dfassoc ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Acciaccatura
Andrew Stiller wrote: Lars-Anders Carlsson wrote: Er, in my book acciaccatura is not a modern practice, it is rather old ;-). And there are a couple of ways to notate it already, none of which has been mentioned so far. The notation style I prefer is a line between the notes in the chord/interval that are supposed to be filled out. (http://homepage.mac.com/lac/finale/acciaccatura.gifSe exemple) Since the notation is not self evident to the player unfamiliar with old keyboard practice, an explanation is always polite. I'd have summed it up as not self evident to the player, period. The worst thing to do when symbols are routinely interpreted in a variety of ways is to introduce yet more symbols indicating the same thing. I would humbly suggest that any musician not familiar with the appearance and meaning of all ornaments found in/ The Well-Tempered Clavier/ (as the acciacatura does) is inadequately educated. I presumed the implication was for this symbol to be used on all instruments, not just keyboards - and I really cannot see it being more useful than confusing in this context. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] XPostFacto install
No success on attempting the G3 Panther install using XPostFacto. However, it seems very close because I can actually boot from the 10.3 Install CD. The problem is with the video but I'm not 100% sure it is the video problem mentioned for stock G3s. I think it might be the supported display sizes for my monitor. The display becomes alternating green and black lines a few degrees off horizontal. In case anyone knows anything about overcoming that from the XPF options, I'd appreciate a personal email so I can view it with telnet. I won't have a fully restored 10.2 system with previous Finale List posts until sometime tomorrow. Thanks, Philip ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] XPostFacto install
Hi Philip, Sorry -- never tried it with the built-in video so I can't help there. However, I do have a used Radeon that I haven't gotten around to eBaying yet, so if you're interested in going that route, let me know and I'll give you a good price on it. I'll even take it back if it doesn't solve your problem (although it works fine in my beige G3 desktop machine so it ought to do just as well for you). Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn NY On 25 May 2004, at 07:03 PM, Philip Aker wrote: No success on attempting the G3 Panther install using XPostFacto. However, it seems very close because I can actually boot from the 10.3 Install CD. The problem is with the video but I'm not 100% sure it is the video problem mentioned for stock G3s. I think it might be the supported display sizes for my monitor. The display becomes alternating green and black lines a few degrees off horizontal. In case anyone knows anything about overcoming that from the XPF options, I'd appreciate a personal email so I can view it with telnet. I won't have a fully restored 10.2 system with previous Finale List posts until sometime tomorrow. Thanks, Philip ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
