[Finale] Finale chat (IRC)
Hello! There's now an IRC channel available for Finale users (was started just a couple of days ago), where you can chat "live" with other Finale users. Here's the info: server: irc.chatspike.net port: 6667 channel: #Finale Here are liks to IRC clients: http://www.mirc.com/ (Windows) http://colloquy.info/ (MacOSX) Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: How safe are DVD-Rs?
At 01:24 PM 10/9/04 +0200, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >How safe do people consider DVD-Rs as a backup media? Safer/Unsafer than >CD-Rs (which are not all that safe from my experience). Yes, you're right. I always do double backups. Though I haven't had any bad reads yet (my CD-R data archive goes back to 1997), they are stored carefully. The DVD-Rs seem better protected than the CD-Rs in simple physical manufacturing terms, with heavier protection of the reflective layer. On the other hand, the data density means scratches come into play. I have to use DVD-Rs for larger projects because some of the source materials and manipulations for electronic music would take a dozen CD-Rs. They also hold video project backups. Though CD-Rs have gone through (and failed) testing (I think I referenced here a particularly rigorous Dutch test with discouraging results), I have not seen any serious data reports on DVD-Rs -- only because the 'advanced aging' tests don't seem to match the real-world aging results. That's what happened with the CD-Rs, and I expect it to be the case with DVD-Rs. I keep backups of critical material on hard drives, too. It's kind of discouraging, because there's a sense that archives of source material of all kinds will be deteriorating (or becoming obsolete) much faster than in the paper and film days. I try to keep material available for later use, but updating from cassettes to 5-inch floppies to 3-inch to CD-Rs to DVD-Rs just consumes too much time -- not to mention licenses, operating systems, hardware boards & boxes, computers, etc., that have to be kept around to use older material. Example: I thought I was safe in committing my entire performance art/music installation "In Bocca al Lupo" from 1985 to EPROM and flash RAM -- no floppies, no hard drives. It turned out both the EPROMs and flash RAM self-erase after a decade or so, so the installation and its data (it was a self-learning installation) are gone. I have the source code printed out, but the chance of replicating the project is pretty low. Since my use of technology in my music goes back to 1969 and computer technology back to 1977, you can bet I have, as they say, "issues". Just what I would NOT need right now would be premature failure rates with DVD-Rs! Dennis ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: How safe are DVD-Rs?
At 1:24 PM +0200 10/9/04, Johannes Gebauer wrote: >How safe do people consider DVD-Rs as a backup media? Safer/Unsafer than >CD-Rs (which are not all that safe from my experience). Hi, Johannes - I've used CD-R's for backup for several years now without problems. Also, within the last year, I've made a couple of DVD backups, but in addition to the CD-R's. I think there's much less of a chance that DVD's will be readable on machines other than mine than CD-R's. Now I use an external HD which is partitioned to hold three complete backups if my computer's HD if it were totally full, which it never is. HD's are not expensive, especially if you get the enclosure and drive separately. The price point seems to be just under 200GB. So, now I backup on the external HD, and the important stuff on CD-R's. My next related project is to make a bootable partition on the external HD. Regards, Carlberg Carlberg Jones Guanajuato, Gto. MEXICO ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: How safe are DVD-Rs?
Sorry if this is a little off-topic, but for me it is in fact very Finale related... How safe do people consider DVD-Rs as a backup media? Safer/Unsafer than CD-Rs (which are not all that safe from my experience). Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] JW plug-ins open source
John Poole [Finale Discussion] wrote: Mark D Lew wrote: On Oct 8, 2004, at 1:48 PM, Brad Beyenhof wrote: It seems he's not. This is taken from the page he linked to in his announcement: These source code files are released as "open source" and can be compiled to a Finale(TM) plug-in, with the following remarks/limitations: * This source code is copyright (c) Jari Williamsson, 1999-2004. * You may NOT sell any part of this source code. * If you compile this source to a binary, you may NOT sell that binary. * You may use individual routines from this source in your own projects, as long as your project substantialy differs from the intentions of this source code. * You may NOT use the whole plug-in as a part of your own projects. * You may modify/enhance the code to introduce new features. If you do so, you should publicaly release the source. The way I read these restrictions, it wouldn't preclude the possibility of paying someone to do the conversion, so long as the resulting binary is not sold. That is, someone might announce, "I'm willing to use my Mac OS X compiler to convert Jari's open source code to create a version of JW plug-ins that will work on Mac. It would be about two hours of work which I'd charge at $20/hr, so if someone pays me $40 I'll do the work." [*] Then if a group of users interested in having the Mac version available pool their money to come up with that $40, the guy would do the conversion and release the Mac version which would then be free to everyone just like Jari stipulates. By my reading, that would be consistent with the letter of the law and Jari's restrictions. I believe it's also consistent with the spirit, but if not, Jari can let us know. mdl (IANAL)) [*] I'm totally making up these figures for time and money. I have no idea how easy or difficult it is to do port the code to Mac. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale bettery yet: have the code lodged in a repository (like SourceForge) where it can be worked on and the eager Mac users could simply hire someone to contribute to the development of the code. This helps keep the code open, encourages whoever contributes to have their code viewable for comment/suggestions (and the people paying the bill will have the benefit of others seeing what they are paying for), and inspires others to come on board and develop. I think the model of private moneys financing parts of open source projects is going to become more and more in vogue and perhaps smaller contributors (rather than large corporations) can help promote development. Bravo, Jari, for doing this. (I'm not a Mac user, but applaud people who have the wisdom to weave open source into their development plan.) While I realize Jari is releasing the source code of his own free will, I would think that if anybody is getting paid Jari should get an equal amount of money. I realize that legally that may not be a requisite if someone were hired at a per-hour rate to convert the code into Mac plug-ins, but I would think morally that if anybody makes money from them, Jari should get an equal amount. otherwise, pay that extra person to write his/her own source code! -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
