Re: [Finale] pdf printing resolved

2006-07-06 Thread Johannes Gebauer

On 05.07.2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By the way, the original error message Kinkos received on the first file was unable to locate original file. 



This sounds like the PDF was referencing another file which you didn't 
include (or for which the path name was incorrect).


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Re: [Finale] printers

2006-07-06 Thread Phil Daley

At 7/5/2006 04:50 PM, John Howell wrote:

At 12:23 PM -0400 7/5/06, Phil Daley wrote:
At 7/5/2006 11:28 AM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:

I've been hoping that I
could find an economical method of printing larger scores and parts, say
9x12, but the laser printing world only seems to go to 11x17, and the 
larger

formats are inkjet and therefore less stable on the page.

Isn't 9x12 smaller than 11x17?

Sharp eyes, Phil!  But 9 x 12 is a single page, 11 x 17 a double
page.  12 x 18 would be more accurate.  But in my experience the
larger pages still make do with a plate size closer to 11 x 17 (or
actually 8 1/2 x 11) in quite a lot of cases.  Larger page simply =
larger margins.

On my printer at work, we use 11x17 for bigger drawings ;-)

I have never seen anyone print a double page that size.

Why not print 2 single pages?

Phil Daley   AutoDesk 
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Re: [Finale] Redundant accidentals

2006-07-06 Thread Lon Price
On Jul 5, 2006, at 12:34 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote:Actually, come to think of it, I find the whole idea of a "courtesy accidental" more than a little weird. When I write an accidental, parenthesized or not, there is no courtesy involved! It's just me, as a composer, doing my damnedest to get the players to play what I want them to play instead of something else. Maybe they'll have the courtesy to do that, but experience has taught me not to hold my breath. I hear you!  Likewise for me.  However, some of my better students (those actually capable of thinking and playing in a particular key) do sometimes get confused by "courtesy" accidentals, since I've drilled into their heads that the barline cancels out any "real" accidental.  But when I'm writing for a recording session I almost always put in courtesy accidentals, but I never use a parenthesis.  I find parenthesized accidentals too hard to read. Maybe I need better glasses. ;-) Lon Price, Los Angeles[EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.txstnr.com ___
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Re: [Finale] pdf printing resolved

2006-07-06 Thread nraspa
I suppose that is possible.  I used three different programs to create 
the various files.  I also have graphics, created in a draw program, 
embedded in some of the Finale documents. I thought, however, that 
creating a pdf would take care of all that.  I have, in the past, 
created web pages which require that certain documents referenced in 
the web page are located in the same folder.  I didn't realize pdfs 
work in a similar fashion.


Nick Raspa
NJR Music Enterprises
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-Original Message-
From: Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thu, 6 Jul 2006 11:57:53 +0200
Subject: Re: [Finale] pdf printing resolved

  On 05.07.2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  By the way, the original error message Kinkos received on the first 
file was unable to locate original file.  
 This sounds like the PDF was referencing another file which you didn't 
include (or for which the path name was incorrect). 

 
Johannes 
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http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de 
 
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Re: [Finale] printers

2006-07-06 Thread Christopher Smith


On Jul 6, 2006, at 7:04 AM, Phil Daley wrote:



On my printer at work, we use 11x17 for bigger drawings ;-)

I have never seen anyone print a double page that size.

Why not print 2 single pages?



Because two single pages involves creating some sort of hinge that  
sticks to the paper and will last as long as the paper does (an  
expensive and time-consuming operation when you are talking about  
orchestra or choir parts, not to mention the special tape), plus it  
simplifies enormously the task of creating booklets that you can  
centre-staple. Also you can run it through a photocopier in one pass  
instead of 4 (in the case of a double-sided, double-page part) and  
you never have to worry about pages getting separated.


Plus, it is the standard for parts, which is a compelling argument in  
itself.


Christopher


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Re: [Finale] printers

2006-07-06 Thread John Howell

At 7:04 AM -0400 7/6/06, Phil Daley wrote:

At 7/5/2006 04:50 PM, John Howell wrote:


At 12:23 PM -0400 7/5/06, Phil Daley wrote:

At 7/5/2006 11:28 AM, Bruce E. Clausen wrote:


I've been hoping that I
could find an economical method of printing larger scores and parts, say
9x12, but the laser printing world only seems to go to 11x17, and 
the larger

formats are inkjet and therefore less stable on the page.


Isn't 9x12 smaller than 11x17?


Sharp eyes, Phil!  But 9 x 12 is a single page, 11 x 17 a double
page.  12 x 18 would be more accurate.  But in my experience the
larger pages still make do with a plate size closer to 11 x 17 (or
actually 8 1/2 x 11) in quite a lot of cases.  Larger page simply =
larger margins.


On my printer at work, we use 11x17 for bigger drawings ;-)

I have never seen anyone print a double page that size.

Why not print 2 single pages?


Maybe we need to define our terms?  A printer is not a copier, nor 
vice-versa.  The technology I have access to is not exactly 
state-of-the-art.  Our departmental printer, networked to all our 
computers, is business sized, printing 8 1/2 x 11, 8/1/2 x 14, and 
recognizing A4.  (A bit of a problem that.  Some of my foreign 
students apparently have their Page Setups set for A4 paper, and when 
I send their files to the printer it recognizes that setting and 
waits patiently for someone to feed it A4 paper, which I doubt we 
could even purchase if we wanted to, thus stopping the printing queue 
for everyone in the department!)


So, I have to print single pages of music.  I then copy onto 11 x 
17 paper on the copier, putting two pages on each side.  Yes, I lose 
a generation, but it's sufficient for my needs.


Our Community Band director has gone one step further, and had a 
local print shop (NOT copy shop) order him heavy weight, opaque 11 x 
17 paper, which is infinitely better than the flimsy 20-lb bond 
that's easy and cheap to buy.


But we're both still stuck with the difference between printers and copiers.

John


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Re: [Finale] printers

2006-07-06 Thread Richard Smith




could find an economical method of printing larger scores and 
parts, say
9x12, but the laser printing world only seems to go to 11x17, and 
the larger

formats are inkjet and therefore less stable on the page.




My Canon (inexpensive) office/photo printer (i860) has pigment black ink 
for text (and music) work and dye photo black and color for photos and 
other color work. Archival studies have shown pigment inks to be very 
stable. They will last as long as a laser. If your using a pigment ink, 
you should be more concerned about the life of the paper than the ink. 
Most of the Epson printers also use pigment ink.


I know this is where I differ from most of the folks on this list but I 
LIKE the way a good ink jet printer prints parts. The ink settles down 
into the paper like a piece printed with a press and looks great. Laser 
prints seem to float on top of the paper which I don't like (I think it 
looks too modern for me :) ). Large scores on smaller paper are a 
different matter. The reduced size of the music seems to reduce the 
resolution past the point of acceptability with an ink jet.


I don't care for 11x17 (too long for the stand) or legal size scores 
(not much of an improvement over letter size). I do like 11x14 paper for 
scores.


Since my music is sold with a license to copy, I provide letter size 
parts. If you have longer works, want the music printed a little bigger, 
or want to discourage copying, you might prefer 9x12 for parts (11x14 is 
a little unmanageable on a player's stand). If you want to print parts 
2-up or as booklets, many of the better ink jets will print on paper 
that is 13 x 19 (with pigment ink) and you could order paper from a 
supplier rather than buy it at an office supply. It is true that most 
ink jets cost more to operate than lasers.


Richard Smith
www.rgsmithmusic.com
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