Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in Speedy Entry
Thanks! I'll try working with it and see if that helps the problem. Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@comcast.net mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com http://www.musicengravers.com/cgi-bin/engravers.pl Phone and Fax: 503 641 6127 - Original Message - From: Michael Greensill m...@mikegreensill.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Sunday, January 3, 2010 9:20:39 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific Subject: Re: [Finale] Midi Sound disappears when not in Speedy Entry I think I've found it! Uncheck playback in the speedy menu. Who'd have thoughtdefinitely not intuitive. Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Duplicate an entire staff and its contents?
Matthew Hindson (gmail) wrote: Can anyone suggest of a way to do this, beyond Copy/Drag/Hope-for-the-best etc? 1. Select a full staff (by clicking on the staff name for example) 2. Ctrl+Shift-click (this is on FinWin, don't know about Mac) in the first target measure 3. Press All and OK (If you're already sure that the filter is on All, you can copy directly with Ctrl-click at step 2.) Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Text in only one part of a group (linked parts)
Okay, I understand. Chances are you will only need a couple of different offsets, unless it is a giant orchestra or wind ensemble, but even so I can't see it getting bigger than 10. So this is what I would do if you have to absolutely keep it all in Finale (the PDF option is what I would do, frankly.) Enter the page number block in the score in page view, setting the options as you want (Use the Page Number insert, select it and the Edit Page Offset option becomes ungreyed. DON'T enter a page number manually, as this way leads to madness.). Hide it in the score. Enter another one with a different offset, and hide it. Continue this for the number of different page number offsets you need, and they will be hidden in all the parts, too, by default. Then in the parts, find the block you want to UNhide, and unhide it. This will only happen in the part, as all the other blocks will stay hidden by default. If you ever have to change the offset for ONE part (say it got a page added), then you hide that page number block and choose or create another one. Don't change this offset, as any other part that uses that offset will also change. I would make myself a non-printing note in the score somewhere to tell me what I did if I ever have to come back. This is heavy kludging. See below for further explanation. Christopher On Mon Jan 4, at MondayJan 4 12:20 AM, Paul Hayden wrote: On Jan 3, 2010, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: I don't really get what you are trying to do. Why wouldn't you want a page number to show up on all parts? This is a file of a second movement, and the parts must start on a variety of page numbers. I hope you are using the Text tool (looks like a capital A) in page view, and using the Insert... command from the menu for the page number for this. If you use it in scroll view it attaches to the staff, and if you use the expression tool it attaches to the staff, too. You want to attach to the page. You then set the properties to show from page 2 on (so it doesn't show up on any title page.) Yep, that's what I've been doing. If there is some non-standard situation where you don't want this page number to show up on one or more parts, then hide it (right click, select Hide) while you are in the part. The problem is that if I place the page numbers for all parts in a group (e.g., flutes 1, 2, 3) in the same place on the page (e.g., center, bottom footer), they end up overlapping each other. I don't understand why page numbers on one page of one part should show up in any other part. When you enter a text block, it shows up on EVERY page 1 (or range of pages, depending on how you have set it) in EVERY part and score. The only way around this behaviour is to hide it (right click, uncheck Show). Since I'm working against a deadline here, I've just gone back to extracting the parts from the score. I'm probably doing something wrong here. When I finish this project, I'll RTFM more closely. Thanks for the suggestions. Paul Hayden On Sat Jan 2, at SaturdayJan 2 1:12 PM, Paul Hayden wrote: FinMac09 Mac OS 10.5.8 Orchestral score using linked parts. Flutes 1 and 2 form a group. If I add text (e.g., page numbers) to flute 1, it shows up in flute 2 but not the other parts (which are, of course, not part of the flute group). I've read the manual and looked at the Quickstart Videos, but obviously I've missed something basic here. How can I add text to one part of a group without adding it to the other part(s) of the group? My workaround is to add the page number as an expression in the part. Please CC your reply to my address as I'm on the digest and may not receive your reply for another 24 hours. Thanks very much. Paul Hayden (who really can't believe he doesn't know the answer to this basic question...) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: harp notation
SN jef chippewa wrote: is there a standard way of notating the string buzz caused by holding the pedal between 2 of the 3 positions? There's a Salzedo notation available for the metallic sound you want. I'll e-mail a scan of how he wanted it notated. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: harp notation
On 2010/01/04, at 12:01, Jari Williamsson wrote: I'll e-mail a scan of how he wanted it notated. Instead of posting to your glorious site?! :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Greater Boston http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=pearflamesearch_type=aq=f ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Text in only one part of a group (linked parts)
On Jan 4, 2010, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.net wrote: This is one reason (among many) why separate files for separate movements is a dreadful idea to begin with. Good point. I may need to revise my work methods (horrors!). (One solution would be to forget about page numbers in Finale and add them later in Acrobat.) I thought about that but hoped to have Finale take care of it automatically. Anyway, text tool text cannot be added to just one part, or even just the score. By default, text tool text shows up in all parts plus the score. It can be *hidden* from selected parts, or the score, but it can't be modified or deleted without affecting all parts/score. Yes, but if I understand it correctly now, that's awkward (because you'd have to hide a _lot_ of text blocks as you do each part). I think putting all movements in one file would help. I can think of one instance where several movements in one file might be awkward to deal with: suppose each movement uses a different set of the instruments from the tutti? Wouldn't optimization be rather time consuming? If you had a separate file with just those instruments, optimization would be quick and easy. Thanks for the tip. Paul Hayden Magnolia Music Press www.paulhayden.com Voice Pre-arranged fax: 225-769-9604 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Dynamics in linked, voiced parts, layer 2
FinMac 2010b This seems to be new. I create my score as usual, creating some voiced parts say in flute 1 and 2, where sometimes they share the same layer and sometimes they are in different layers. In the measures where there are different layers, I put in a dynamic, say MF, in the score, but it only appears in the Flute 1 part, not in the Flute 2 part. I can't seem to induce it to appear, either, not even by putting it in brand new in Flute 2 and hiding it in Flute 1 and the score. Anyone else find this? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: Text in only one part of a group (linked parts)
Use TGTools Staff List Manager to handle optimization -- it is almost always quick and easy, regardless of score configuration. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://secretsociety.typepad.com On 4 Jan 2010, at 10:24 AM, Paul Hayden wrote: I can think of one instance where several movements in one file might be awkward to deal with: suppose each movement uses a different set of the instruments from the tutti? Wouldn't optimization be rather time consuming? If you had a separate file with just those instruments, optimization would be quick and easy. Thanks for the tip. Paul Hayden Magnolia Music Press www.paulhayden.com Voice Pre-arranged fax: 225-769-9604 ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dynamics in linked, voiced parts, layer 2
If you look at the Expression Assignment window, you can now set it to apply to a specific layer or all layers. I'm guessing it set to apply only to layer 1. On Jan 4, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: FinMac 2010b This seems to be new. I create my score as usual, creating some voiced parts say in flute 1 and 2, where sometimes they share the same layer and sometimes they are in different layers. In the measures where there are different layers, I put in a dynamic, say MF, in the score, but it only appears in the Flute 1 part, not in the Flute 2 part. I can't seem to induce it to appear, either, not even by putting it in brand new in Flute 2 and hiding it in Flute 1 and the score. Anyone else find this? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dynamics in linked, voiced parts, layer 2
Actually, I figured it out, thanks, John. Aside from your way (which would have entailed MANY individual edits!) I discovered that I had somehow managed to accidentally hit command L, which changed the Expression menu item Favour attachment to active layer. That attached all my expressions to the layer I was in at the time, which was Layer 1. I was happy to discover your dialogue box, however! Lots of great options there, like disallowing shrinkage when attached to a smaller note. Christopher On Mon Jan 4, at MondayJan 4 4:52 PM, John Blane wrote: If you look at the Expression Assignment window, you can now set it to apply to a specific layer or all layers. I'm guessing it set to apply only to layer 1. On Jan 4, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: FinMac 2010b This seems to be new. I create my score as usual, creating some voiced parts say in flute 1 and 2, where sometimes they share the same layer and sometimes they are in different layers. In the measures where there are different layers, I put in a dynamic, say MF, in the score, but it only appears in the Flute 1 part, not in the Flute 2 part. I can't seem to induce it to appear, either, not even by putting it in brand new in Flute 2 and hiding it in Flute 1 and the score. Anyone else find this? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dynamics in linked, voiced parts, layer 2
Glad it worked out, Chris. I was only pointing out some new behavior that I suspected was interfering - not suggesting a preferred workflow. Thanks for mentioning the cmd-L thing, too, which I was unaware of. On Jan 4, 2010, at 6:05 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Actually, I figured it out, thanks, John. Aside from your way (which would have entailed MANY individual edits!) I discovered that I had somehow managed to accidentally hit command L, which changed the Expression menu item Favour attachment to active layer. That attached all my expressions to the layer I was in at the time, which was Layer 1. I was happy to discover your dialogue box, however! Lots of great options there, like disallowing shrinkage when attached to a smaller note. Christopher On Mon Jan 4, at MondayJan 4 4:52 PM, John Blane wrote: If you look at the Expression Assignment window, you can now set it to apply to a specific layer or all layers. I'm guessing it set to apply only to layer 1. On Jan 4, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: FinMac 2010b This seems to be new. I create my score as usual, creating some voiced parts say in flute 1 and 2, where sometimes they share the same layer and sometimes they are in different layers. In the measures where there are different layers, I put in a dynamic, say MF, in the score, but it only appears in the Flute 1 part, not in the Flute 2 part. I can't seem to induce it to appear, either, not even by putting it in brand new in Flute 2 and hiding it in Flute 1 and the score. Anyone else find this? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Dynamics in linked, voiced parts, layer 2
On Jan 4, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: I was happy to discover your dialogue box, however! Lots of great options there, like disallowing shrinkage when attached to a smaller note. Aha! This option exists. The things you learn on the list! That will help when dynamics are attached to drum hits notated above Time and rendered at a reduced percentage. I should have looked for this. Thanks, Chuck Christopher On Mon Jan 4, at MondayJan 4 4:52 PM, John Blane wrote: If you look at the Expression Assignment window, you can now set it to apply to a specific layer or all layers. I'm guessing it set to apply only to layer 1. On Jan 4, 2010, at 3:19 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: FinMac 2010b This seems to be new. I create my score as usual, creating some voiced parts say in flute 1 and 2, where sometimes they share the same layer and sometimes they are in different layers. In the measures where there are different layers, I put in a dynamic, say MF, in the score, but it only appears in the Flute 1 part, not in the Flute 2 part. I can't seem to induce it to appear, either, not even by putting it in brand new in Flute 2 and hiding it in Flute 1 and the score. Anyone else find this? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
