RE: [Finale] merging files, and thanks!
I did this, in Finale 2005, with a couple of Baroque transcriptions for brass quintet which had three to five movements in a separate files. It's been awhile, but if I remember correctly, I merged the multiple movements into one large file by adding a measure to the end of the "first" movement, selecting and copying the second movement and inserting it into the empty measure at the end of the first movement - and so on. Then I used the page layout tool to indent first systems, add space for titles, etc. If I'm remembering this correctly, then merging a couple of movements with a small instrumentation should be fairly simple. Dalvin Boone -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Houghton, W Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 5:21 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] merging files, and thanks! Hi Katherine. If you have Adobe Acrobat (which has a good file-combining tool) you could always merge pdf's of the movements (?) Best regards, Mark Houghton From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Katherine Hoover [khoo...@papagenapress.com] Sent: 15 March 2010 19:22 To: finalelist Subject: [Finale] merging files, and thanks! I was asked to restate the merging situation. First - thanks for the answers! Noel S.' long one has been printed to study... Obviously merging is not simple, though my case is about as simple as it could get. Score for viola & piano; 2 movements. I want to merge mvts. 1 & 2 of the viola part, which are in separate files. Also, if it is reasonably simple I would like to know how to merge the scores of Mvts. 1 & 2. Mac OS10, Finale 2004. The glisses are fixed. Katherine Hoover ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: OT: blowing air through brass instruments
Well ... most Trbs. Dean On Mar 15, 2010, at 4:11 PM, Michael Lawlor wrote: You could just half-depress the valves (this obviously doesn't work for trombones). Michael Lawlor - Original Message - Message: 8 Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:24:24 -0400 From: "timothy.price" Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments To: Message-ID: <990246e4-098e-4208-af85-28394b969...@valley.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: reversing the mouthpiece *definitely* does. As radical an idea as actual experimentation may be, I tried it on my trumpet, and by gosh, you get a much louder sound using the reversed mouthpiece. Imagine that ! timothy.key.price timothy.key.pr...@valley.net ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale I have opened my soul/To let in the warmth of sound/Now my saving grace Adrian Estabrook, author Dean M. Estabrook http://sites.google.com/site/deanestabrook/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: OT: blowing air through brass instruments
You could just half-depress the valves (this obviously doesn't work for trombones). Michael Lawlor - Original Message - Message: 8 Date: Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:24:24 -0400 From: "timothy.price" Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments To: Message-ID: <990246e4-098e-4208-af85-28394b969...@valley.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: reversing the mouthpiece *definitely* does. As radical an idea as actual experimentation may be, I tried it on my trumpet, and by gosh, you get a much louder sound using the reversed mouthpiece. Imagine that ! timothy.key.price timothy.key.pr...@valley.net ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: trying to upgrade browsers
On 15 Mar 2010 at 18:36, Darcy James Argue wrote: > I did discover PearPC, a PPC emulator that is capable of running OS X 10.3 > as a client OS ("with some caveats"). > > http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/about.html That looks promising -- one could get a new PC with the latest OS X and use this emulator to run OS X 10.3 to have access to the software that runs on 10.3 but not later. I wonder what the caveats are? I poked around a bit but could not find the details on that. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: trying to upgrade browsers
Hi David, Well, yes, Apple have a clear financial incentive to try to, ahem, "encourage" people to upgrade their hardware. Also, each time a new Mac model comes out, it is usually incapable of running *any* version of the OS that predates that hardware. For instance, I haven't looked into it, but if history is any guide, the new iMac models released Oct. 20, 2009 most likely do not boot under any OS older than OS X 10.6.2 -- they probably can't be booted from the OS X 10.6.0 retail DVD, and definitely cannot run any flavor of OS X 10.5 or earlier. I did discover PearPC, a PPC emulator that is capable of running OS X 10.3 as a client OS ("with some caveats"). http://pearpc.sourceforge.net/about.html Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 15 Mar 2010, at 6:20 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > On 15 Mar 2010 at 18:03, Darcy James Argue wrote: > >> It's possible, but unsupported and not for the faint of heart. The process >> is essentially the same as running a "Hackintosh" -- i.e., running Mac OS >> X on a PC: >> >> http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Vmware_how_to > > I wasn't really thinking about using a 3rd-party VM -- I was assuming > Apple would have their own emulator. Obviously, I wasn't really > thinking clearly on that. > > Windows can pretty easily support VMs for earlier versions because > it's the same family of chips going back to the early 90s (when the > Pentium was introduced), and those chips always carried compatibility > modes for software compiled for earlier Intel chips, so virtualizing > a Pentium automatically gets you virtualization of 386 and 286 and > even 8086. > >> It is, ironically, much easier to run Windows on a Mac using >> virtualization software than it is to run earlier Mac OS's on later-model >> Macs. (The transition to Intel hardware makes it difficult to run a >> PPC-only OS like 10.3.x on an Intel-based Mac.) > > That's only because nobody is apparently virtualizing the earlier > chips. I guess there's no demand for it, and that means that > conservative upgraders like Andrew are forced to replace their > hardware and bite the bullet and get up-to-date software. > > Too bad. I fully understand and support the motivation behind those > who don't want to change. > > -- > David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com > David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: trying to upgrade browsers
On 15 Mar 2010 at 18:03, Darcy James Argue wrote: > It's possible, but unsupported and not for the faint of heart. The process > is essentially the same as running a "Hackintosh" -- i.e., running Mac OS > X on a PC: > > http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Vmware_how_to I wasn't really thinking about using a 3rd-party VM -- I was assuming Apple would have their own emulator. Obviously, I wasn't really thinking clearly on that. Windows can pretty easily support VMs for earlier versions because it's the same family of chips going back to the early 90s (when the Pentium was introduced), and those chips always carried compatibility modes for software compiled for earlier Intel chips, so virtualizing a Pentium automatically gets you virtualization of 386 and 286 and even 8086. > It is, ironically, much easier to run Windows on a Mac using > virtualization software than it is to run earlier Mac OS's on later-model > Macs. (The transition to Intel hardware makes it difficult to run a > PPC-only OS like 10.3.x on an Intel-based Mac.) That's only because nobody is apparently virtualizing the earlier chips. I guess there's no demand for it, and that means that conservative upgraders like Andrew are forced to replace their hardware and bite the bullet and get up-to-date software. Too bad. I fully understand and support the motivation behind those who don't want to change. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: trying to upgrade browsers
Hi David, It's possible, but unsupported and not for the faint of heart. The process is essentially the same as running a "Hackintosh" -- i.e., running Mac OS X on a PC: http://wiki.osx86project.org/wiki/index.php/Vmware_how_to It is, ironically, much easier to run Windows on a Mac using virtualization software than it is to run earlier Mac OS's on later-model Macs. (The transition to Intel hardware makes it difficult to run a PPC-only OS like 10.3.x on an Intel-based Mac.) Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 15 Mar 2010, at 5:06 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > On 15 Mar 2010 at 16:31, Martin Banner wrote: > >> I have two computers, one which runs OS 10.3.9, so I can still use my >> Finale 2003 and Microsoft Works files. Can't access either of those on >> my new iMac that runs 10.5.x > > Is there no possibility on OS X of running an earlier version of OS X > (or Mac OS, for that matter) in virtual machine? I just got home from > a client's where I set up a WinXP virtual machine running inside 64- > bit Windows 7 in order to run a dBase II app compiled in 1982. Of > course, Microsoft gives you the license to run WinXP under those > circumstances, and I don't know what the licensing issues are for OS > X. > > -- > David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com > David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: trying to upgrade browsers
Hi Andrew- According to this, you have the latest version ot Safari(1.3.2) that works on 10.3.9 (Safari 2.0 requires OS 10.4.) http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/17743&vid=132387 -- As far as IE for Mac, according to this, Version 5.2.3, June 16, 2003 , was the final version, so youre current with that also. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ Internet_Explorer_for_Mac#Internet_Explorer_5_Macintosh_Edition Firefox 2 requires Mac OS X 10.2 or later; 3 requires 10.4 or later. To download previous versions: ftp://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/ Previous versions Previous versions of Firefox have public security problems. You could be exposed to viruses, phishing, and other attacks by running old versions. To find a previous version: Go to the Mozilla FTP server. Choose the version you want. Choose the mac/ folder Choose your language. en-US is US English. Choose the file that does not end in .asc. The download will then start. Once the file is downloaded, install it. After downgrading, if you intend to stay with that version, you will need to turn off Software Update. It is highly recommended that you try new versions of Firefox as they're released to see if they solve your problem. - This page lists Mac OS X browsers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Mac_OS_X_web_browsers For Camino : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Camino OS10.3.9 uses version 1.6.10 For Opera: http://www.opera.com/download/?os=mac&ver=10.50b1&local=y System requirements for Opera for Mac Note: Opera 9 and Opera 10 are Universal Binaries, meaning that they run on both Intel-based and PowerPC-based Macs. This is the reason for the large file size compared to other platforms. Starting with OS X 10.6 "Snow Leopard", the binary is no longer universal, but only for Intel-based Macs. Opera 10 OS X Panther (10.3) or higher on an Intel- or PowerPC-based system. Opera 9 OS X Panther (10.3) or higher on an Intel- or PowerPC-based system. OS X Jaguar (10.2) is believed to work, but is officially unsupported. Opera 8 OS X Jaguar (10.2) or higher on a PowerPC-based system. Opera 7 OS X Puma (10.1) or higher on a PowerPC-based system. Opera 6 OS 9 or higher on a PowerPC-based system. Opera 5 OS 7.5-OS 9 on a PowerPC-based system (Opera 5 will not run on OS X). Hope this helps Bob Morabito On Mar 15, 2010, at 3:45 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: My 9-yr.-old browsers no longer support most online video, notably UTube. I'd like to upgrade to the most recent available versions that will run w. my OS (Mac OS 10.3.9), but can't find these on the internet. Can anybody help? My current browsers are Safari 1.3.2 and IE/Mac 5.2 Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] merging files, and thanks!
Hi Katherine. If you have Adobe Acrobat (which has a good file-combining tool) you could always merge pdf's of the movements (?) Best regards, Mark Houghton From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of Katherine Hoover [khoo...@papagenapress.com] Sent: 15 March 2010 19:22 To: finalelist Subject: [Finale] merging files, and thanks! I was asked to restate the merging situation. First - thanks for the answers! Noel S.' long one has been printed to study... Obviously merging is not simple, though my case is about as simple as it could get. Score for viola & piano; 2 movements. I want to merge mvts. 1 & 2 of the viola part, which are in separate files. Also, if it is reasonably simple I would like to know how to merge the scores of Mvts. 1 & 2. Mac OS10, Finale 2004. The glisses are fixed. Katherine Hoover ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: trying to upgrade browsers
On 15 Mar 2010 at 16:31, Martin Banner wrote: > I have two computers, one which runs OS 10.3.9, so I can still use my > Finale 2003 and Microsoft Works files. Can't access either of those on > my new iMac that runs 10.5.x Is there no possibility on OS X of running an earlier version of OS X (or Mac OS, for that matter) in virtual machine? I just got home from a client's where I set up a WinXP virtual machine running inside 64- bit Windows 7 in order to run a dBase II app compiled in 1982. Of course, Microsoft gives you the license to run WinXP under those circumstances, and I don't know what the licensing issues are for OS X. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: trying to upgrade browsers
Hi Andrew, YouTube (and most other online video) is Flash-based. You will need to download the latest version of Flash for your OS, which you can probably do from Adobe's website. (You may also need to upgrade your browser, but you will definitely need to install Flash.) Internet Explorer for Mac has been discontinued for years (and was a terrible browser anyway). But I believe 5.2 was the last Mac version they made. You should be able to upgrade to the most recent version of Safari that supports 10.3.9 using Software Update. Firefox 2.0.0.20 is the most recent version of Firefox that supports 10.3.9. You can download it here: http://mac.oldapps.com/firefox.php (Scroll down.) Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 15 Mar 2010, at 3:45 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: > My 9-yr.-old browsers no longer support most online video, notably UTube. I'd > like to upgrade to the most recent available versions that will run w. my OS > (Mac OS 10.3.9), but can't find these on the internet. Can anybody help? > > My current browsers are Safari 1.3.2 and IE/Mac 5.2 > > Andrew Stiller > Kallisti Music Press > http://www.kallistimusic.com/ > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] OT: trying to upgrade browsers
I agree that it would probably be good to update your OS, but if you don't wish to you should be able to update Safari. Under your Apple menu just choose Software Update. Software Update will check for updates for all the Apple software on your machine and the Safari update should be in the list of possible updates. George Brooke House of Hope Lutheran Church New Hope, MN -Original Message- From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [mailto:finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of J D Thomas Sent: Monday, March 15, 2010 2:49 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] OT: trying to upgrade browsers Andrew, is there a specific reason why you're still at Mac OS 10.3.9? That is a pretty old and deprecated OS for Macs, and the way tech is today, might it not be better to upgrade? Otherwise, this type of issue will be ongoing for you, methinks. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: > My 9-yr.-old browsers no longer support most online video, notably > UTube. I'd like to upgrade to the most recent available versions > that will run w. my OS (Mac OS 10.3.9), but can't find these on the > internet. Can anybody help? > > My current browsers are Safari 1.3.2 and IE/Mac 5.2 > > Andrew Stiller > Kallisti Music Press > http://www.kallistimusic.com/ > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: trying to upgrade browsers
I have two computers, one which runs OS 10.3.9, so I can still use my Finale 2003 and Microsoft Works files. Can't access either of those on my new iMac that runs 10.5.x Martin On Mar 15, 2010, at 3:48 PM, J D Thomas wrote: Andrew, is there a specific reason why you're still at Mac OS 10.3.9? That is a pretty old and deprecated OS for Macs, and the way tech is today, might it not be better to upgrade? Otherwise, this type of issue will be ongoing for you, methinks. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: My 9-yr.-old browsers no longer support most online video, notably UTube. I'd like to upgrade to the most recent available versions that will run w. my OS (Mac OS 10.3.9), but can't find these on the internet. Can anybody help? My current browsers are Safari 1.3.2 and IE/Mac 5.2 Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Martin Banner mban...@hvc.rr.com http://www.alliancemusic.com/peopledetails.cfm?iPeopleID=22 http://hinshawmusic.com/search_results.php?keyword=banner&search=Search http://collavoce.com/search.php?cmd=search&mode=normal&words=Banner http://carlfischer.com/Fischer/search.cfm?cfT=&cfC=Banner&cfID= http://lorenz.com/results.aspx?srch=quick&cid=Martin+Banner ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: trying to upgrade browsers
Andrew, is there a specific reason why you're still at Mac OS 10.3.9? That is a pretty old and deprecated OS for Macs, and the way tech is today, might it not be better to upgrade? Otherwise, this type of issue will be ongoing for you, methinks. J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Mar 15, 2010, at 12:45 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: My 9-yr.-old browsers no longer support most online video, notably UTube. I'd like to upgrade to the most recent available versions that will run w. my OS (Mac OS 10.3.9), but can't find these on the internet. Can anybody help? My current browsers are Safari 1.3.2 and IE/Mac 5.2 Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] merging files, and thanks!
I was asked to restate the merging situation. First - thanks for the answers! Noel S.' long one has been printed to study... Obviously merging is not simple, though my case is about as simple as it could get. Score for viola & piano; 2 movements. I want to merge mvts. 1 & 2 of the viola part, which are in separate files. Also, if it is reasonably simple I would like to know how to merge the scores of Mvts. 1 & 2. Mac OS10, Finale 2004. The glisses are fixed. Katherine Hoover ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: trying to upgrade browsers
My 9-yr.-old browsers no longer support most online video, notably UTube. I'd like to upgrade to the most recent available versions that will run w. my OS (Mac OS 10.3.9), but can't find these on the internet. Can anybody help? My current browsers are Safari 1.3.2 and IE/Mac 5.2 Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments
John Howell wrote: At 10:58 AM -0400 3/15/10, dhbailey wrote: timothy.price wrote: As radical an idea as actual experimentation may be, I tried it on my trumpet, and by gosh, you get a much louder sound using the reversed mouthpiece. Imagine that ! But you also get a different timbre, so it's a trade off and which you prefer would depend on the sound you want. Gee, do you get a different sound on C trumpet than you do on Bb trumpet? How about Flügelhorn? (Sorry; tongue very definitely in cheek--and it's hard to triple-tongue that way! But this is almost starting to sound like a P.D.Q. Bach routine!) John I know you're joking around, but when I remove my mouthpiece and blow through my trumpet I get one sound. When I leave the mouthpiece in place as normal and blow through the mouthpiece (not vibrating my lips) I get a different sound, and when I invert the mouthpiece and blow, as Robert Patterson has suggested, I get a third sound. The inverted mouthpiece gives the tone a harder, brighter timbre. As a composer, I might want to take advantage of those differences in timbre. Just another instance where a composer should actually have physical experience (either through doing or through listening to someone else do it) with what he/she is asking in the score and not blindly working off of an untested concept. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments
Interestingly enough the piece for which I am considering this effect has 1 D-trumpet (or E-flat if the player prefers) and 2 fluegelhorns. We'll see if I wind up giveng the effect to any or all of them. ajr John Howell wrote: > At 10:58 AM -0400 3/15/10, dhbailey wrote: > >timothy.price wrote: > >> > >>As radical an idea as actual experimentation > >>may be, I tried it on my trumpet, and by gosh, > >>you get a much louder sound > >>using the reversed mouthpiece. Imagine that ! > >> > > > >But you also get a different timbre, so it's a > >trade off and which you prefer would depend on > >the sound you want. > > Gee, do you get a different sound on C trumpet > than you do on Bb trumpet? How about Flügelhorn? > > (Sorry; tongue very definitely in cheek--and it's > hard to triple-tongue that way! But this is > almost starting to sound like a P.D.Q. Bach > routine!) > > John > > > -- > John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music > Virginia Tech Department of Music > College of Liberal Arts & Human Sciences > Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 > Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 > (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) > http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html > > "We never play anything the same way once." Shelly Manne's definition > of jazz musicians. > > ___ > Finale mailing list > Finale@shsu.edu > http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] composers and new effects
John, I believe instrumental technique has always advanced as composers write dumb/difficult/impossible things and players get them to work. It's a two-way street, though. Taafe-Zwillich wrote a bass trombone concerto that over-uses the stupid pet tricks of Charlie Vernon;-) Sent from my iPod ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments
Yeah, I just tried to go "Ta-ka-da, ta-ka-da" with my tongue in my cheek ... came out sounding something like a rat going down a sewer pipe ... Dean On Mar 15, 2010, at 9:22 AM, Ray Horton wrote: John Howell wrote: (Sorry; tongue very definitely in cheek--and it's hard to triple- tongue that way! But this is almost starting to sound like a P.D.Q. Bach routine!) John Raymond Horton ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale I have opened my soul/To let in the warmth of sound/Now my saving grace Adrian Estabrook, author Dean M. Estabrook http://sites.google.com/site/deanestabrook/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments
John Howell wrote: At 10:58 AM -0400 3/15/10, dhbailey wrote: timothy.price wrote: As radical an idea as actual experimentation may be, I tried it on my trumpet, and by gosh, you get a much louder sound using the reversed mouthpiece. Imagine that ! But you also get a different timbre, so it's a trade off and which you prefer would depend on the sound you want. Gee, do you get a different sound on C trumpet than you do on Bb trumpet? How about Flügelhorn? (Sorry; tongue very definitely in cheek--and it's hard to triple-tongue that way! But this is almost starting to sound like a P.D.Q. Bach routine!) John I've been about ready to whine about this thread, too, but I realize that the best remedy is to start a new thread. Since you recently confessed you don't use Finale, you might not be the best candidate,* although that should not keep you from improving this conversation. *Of course, I don't use Sibelius, and I spout off on that forum constantly. Raymond Horton ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments
At 10:58 AM -0400 3/15/10, dhbailey wrote: timothy.price wrote: As radical an idea as actual experimentation may be, I tried it on my trumpet, and by gosh, you get a much louder sound using the reversed mouthpiece. Imagine that ! But you also get a different timbre, so it's a trade off and which you prefer would depend on the sound you want. Gee, do you get a different sound on C trumpet than you do on Bb trumpet? How about Flügelhorn? (Sorry; tongue very definitely in cheek--and it's hard to triple-tongue that way! But this is almost starting to sound like a P.D.Q. Bach routine!) John -- John R. Howell, Assoc. Prof. of Music Virginia Tech Department of Music College of Liberal Arts & Human Sciences Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A. 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:john.how...@vt.edu) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html "We never play anything the same way once." Shelly Manne's definition of jazz musicians. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] OT: blowing air through brass instruments
timothy.price wrote: On Mar 14, 2010, at 2:03 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: reversing the mouthpiece *definitely* does. As radical an idea as actual experimentation may be, I tried it on my trumpet, and by gosh, you get a much louder sound using the reversed mouthpiece. Imagine that ! But you also get a different timbre, so it's a trade off and which you prefer would depend on the sound you want. -- David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale