[Finale] Click Assignment
Finalle 2012 Mac For all the new stuff they do sure wish MM would improve lots of existing things, one of them being CLick Assignment and esp Option- Click (Mac) where all the words go in at once. When they blow right past slurs and put a word there anyway, it's frustrating to ffix it with a series of Shift Right and Shift Left actions. Is there a secret I never learned about how to make if honor slurs and go on to the next available note? RH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Click Assignment
As far as I know click assignment is aware of ties. When I type into the score I type an extra space for the tied note (the note at the end of the tie). On 02/12/2011, at 10:03, Richard Huggins wrote: Finalle 2012 Mac For all the new stuff they do sure wish MM would improve lots of existing things, one of them being CLick Assignment and esp Option- Click (Mac) where all the words go in at once. When they blow right past slurs and put a word there anyway, it's frustrating to ffix it with a series of Shift Right and Shift Left actions. Is there a secret I never learned about how to make if honor slurs and go on to the next available note? RH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Click Assignment
Well, maybe I'm wrong about click assignment, in which case you need to add an extra space for each tied note in the text window. On 02/12/2011, at 10:30, Haroldo Mauro wrote: As far as I know click assignment is aware of ties. When I type into the score I type an extra space for the tied note (the note at the end of the tie). On 02/12/2011, at 10:03, Richard Huggins wrote: Finalle 2012 Mac For all the new stuff they do sure wish MM would improve lots of existing things, one of them being CLick Assignment and esp Option- Click (Mac) where all the words go in at once. When they blow right past slurs and put a word there anyway, it's frustrating to ffix it with a series of Shift Right and Shift Left actions. Is there a secret I never learned about how to make if honor slurs and go on to the next available note? RH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Click Assignment
Click assignment is TIE aware, but not SLUR aware. Type Into Score is neither, as you said. I do quite a bit of this, and indeed I wish there was a keyboard shortcut for Right Shift and Left Shift (maybe the comma and period keys, like for cresc and dim in the Smart Shape tool?) If I am missing ONE hyphenation in my click-assigned lyrics, I have a long, multi-click process to go through to get the syllables right. I have submitted a request about this, and suggest you do the same, so that it moves up the to do list. Christopher On Fri Dec 2, at FridayDec 2 7:30 AM, Haroldo Mauro wrote: As far as I know click assignment is aware of ties. When I type into the score I type an extra space for the tied note (the note at the end of the tie). On 02/12/2011, at 10:03, Richard Huggins wrote: Finalle 2012 Mac For all the new stuff they do sure wish MM would improve lots of existing things, one of them being CLick Assignment and esp Option- Click (Mac) where all the words go in at once. When they blow right past slurs and put a word there anyway, it's frustrating to ffix it with a series of Shift Right and Shift Left actions. Is there a secret I never learned about how to make if honor slurs and go on to the next available note? RH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Click Assignment
Haroldo, I never thot of extra spaces. I tried it and by gum it works. On the Mac, Option-SPacebar inserts a forced space. So, EX: Be-hold the rose, where hold spans three notes, would be entered hold (os) (os) the Rose. Note it's a common space (no Option held down) then Option-Space etc. ThAnks much! Christopher, exactly! A fast key combo would make SUCH a difference! Along with that, the ability to use arrow keys and a key combo to cause the next word to be entered, thus eliminating mouse positioning, would be glorious. Lastly would someone please create a word-dividing app, putting the hyphens in the right place in one fell swoop? ! RH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Click Assignment
On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.comwrote: .. A fast key combo would make SUCH a difference! Along with that, the ability to use arrow keys and a key combo to cause the next word to be entered, thus eliminating mouse positioning, would be glorious. Lastly would someone please create a word-dividing app, putting the hyphens in the right place in one fell swoop? ! RH I second those motions, heartily! RH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Click Assignment
Oops...back to the drawing board..I ran into a problem on how to make it work withIN a word where you've got hypens to deal with. I tried a forced hyphen but didn't think that would work and it didn't.. What DID work but with a problem attached was Sav-(fp)-ior -- that's two regular hypens on each side of a forced space (fp) The word then worked but I have two hyphens where only one is desired, and if I could mke oe invisible I'd still have to move the remaining hypjen to make it look right. I havent seen a way to move a hyphen, and after all would that be less work than typing the lyrics and abandoning CLick Assignment? RH On Dec 2, 2011, at 9:11 AM, Richard Huggins wrote: Haroldo, I never thot of extra spaces. I tried it and by gum it works. On the Mac, Option-SPacebar inserts a forced space. So, EX: Be-hold the rose, where hold spans three notes, would be entered hold (os) (os) the Rose. Note it's a common space (no Option held down) then Option-Space etc. ThAnks much! Christopher, exactly! A fast key combo would make SUCH a difference! Along with that, the ability to use arrow keys and a key combo to cause the next word to be entered, thus eliminating mouse positioning, would be glorious. Lastly would someone please create a word-dividing app, putting the hyphens in the right place in one fell swoop? ! RH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Click Assignment
Adding extra spaces doesn't work for click assignment, as Finale seems to ignore them. It also treats carriage returns and multiple carriage returns as a space, moving to the next note as if it were a space. The opt-spacebar on Mac will NOT add space the way you might think! It will add a space that Finale thinks is a normal character, attaching to a note or allowing two words on the same note. I think the shift right is our best option, I just want a way to do it faster. For hyphenation, I use this website: http://juiciobrennan.com/hyphenator/ You have to check the results, as it doesn't always return what you think is right (bless-ed instead of blessed: pleas-ed instead of pleased, for example) and it doesn't seem to know contractions (hadn't comes back undivided), and it doesn't know slang (gonna and havin' stump it) as well as many proper names don't get divided. But it's great! Christopher - Original Message - From: Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.com Date: Friday, December 2, 2011 10:26 am Subject: Re: [Finale] Click Assignment To: finale@shsu.edu Haroldo, I never thot of extra spaces. I tried it and by gum it works. On the Mac, Option-SPacebar inserts a forced space. So, EX: Be- hold the rose, where hold spans three notes, would be entered hold (os) (os) the Rose. Note it's a common space (no Option held down) then Option-Space etc. ThAnks much! Christopher, exactly! A fast key combo would make SUCH a difference! Along with that, the ability to use arrow keys and a key combo to cause the next word to be entered, thus eliminating mouse positioning, would be glorious. Lastly would someone please create a word-dividing app, putting the hyphens in the right place in one fell swoop? ! RH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Click Assignment
I've wanted this for years! Thank you so much! Raymond Horton For hyphenation, I use this website: http://juiciobrennan.com/hyphenator/ You have to check the results, as it doesn't always return what you think is right (bless-ed instead of blessed: pleas-ed instead of pleased, for example) and it doesn't seem to know contractions (hadn't comes back undivided), and it doesn't know slang (gonna and havin' stump it) as well as many proper names don't get divided. But it's great! Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Click Assignment
Thanks! This is useful. -Randolph Peters On 2011-12-02, at 11:16 AM, christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: For hyphenation, I use this website: http://juiciobrennan.com/hyphenator/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Click Assignment
I use this online tool for English hyphenation occasionally because it's fast and requires little tweaking of the results (also, it can handle very long text blocks): http://juiciobrennan.com/hyphenator/ There are some extant hyphenation databases available for free online, but it takes a while to sort through the junk to find them. The older ones are mostly TeX or similar files. Matthew Hindson's work is still available, too: http://www.hindson.com.au/wordpress/free/free-english-language-hyphenation-dictionary Circa 1999, when I was using Finale on a Mac and engraving a huge number of pieces in Latin, I created a word base to do this very thing to help out Philip Aker while he was developing his TextEditor plugin. Later on Giovanni (Doro?) sent some updates to the word base, too. http://home.swipnet.se/~w-52653/Finale/plugins.html#TEXT_EDITOR but none of the links work anymore. I have a copy somewhere. I'll try to locate it. Or you might find someone with an old version of Finale that installed it as a freebie around 2000-01 version? It went standalone at some point. Hope something of all this helps! -Cecil Rigby Clemson, SC - Original Message - From: Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Friday, December 02, 2011 11:23 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Click Assignment On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:11 AM, Richard Huggins huggin...@yahoo.comwrote: .. A fast key combo would make SUCH a difference! Along with that, the ability to use arrow keys and a key combo to cause the next word to be entered, thus eliminating mouse positioning, would be glorious. Lastly would someone please create a word-dividing app, putting the hyphens in the right place in one fell swoop? ! RH I second those motions, heartily! RH ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Finale Midi to Encore
Hi Linda, The latest version of Encore does import musicXML files. It's not as developed as the MusicXML built into Finale and Sibelius. It will not import lyrics, chords symbols and many other elements. But it will give you notes and I believe articulations and some text much better than a MIDI file. I've had some Encore files come through with rhythmic problems Best, John John Hinchey Nashville Tennessee Phone: 615-397-3675 Website: Hinchey Music Services http://www.hincheymusic.com/ Blog: Notes On Notes http://johnhinchey.com/ Twitter: @hincheymusic http://twitter.com/hincheymusic ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
