Re: [Finale] Courtesy Accidentals

2012-05-21 Thread Christopher Smith
I am ecstatic to be proved wrong! I hope this is it...

Christopher


On Mon May 21, at MondayMay 21 9:24 PM, Neal Gittleman wrote:

> Hmm…  I tried what you said, both in a transposed part and a non-transposed 
> part.  In each case, when I went back in and changed the first F to F#, the 
> accidental on the F# disappeared.
> 
> Neal
> 
> On May 21, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the update. That doesn't exactly fix the problem though.  
>> What if you go F, then F# later in the measure, and Auto Freeze is  
>> on? Then later you edit and decide to change the F to F# as well. Now  
>> the second F# has a redundant accidental on it. I wouldn't call that  
>> "working as expected."
>> 
>> Christopher
>> 
>> 
>> On 21-May-12, at 21-May-12  5:37 PM, Neal Gittleman wrote:
>> 
>>> An update.  As suggested by Christopher, I opened a ticket with  
>>> tech support, they got back to me, asked to see the file, and  
>>> correctly identified the issue which was that Auto Freeze  
>>> Accidentals was unchecked.  Checking it fixed the problem -- or at  
>>> least returned Final to working the way I expected it to work…
>>> 
>>> Neal Gittleman
>>> 
 
 FinMac 2012a.r3, using Speedy Entry
 
 All of a sudden, when I enter a courtesy accidental via the * key,  
 it disappears as soon as I leave the measure.  Had this problem  
 once before and someone gave me a fix -- something in Preferences,  
 I think.  But whatever it was, I can't find it, and it's annoying  
 to have the program continually suppressing accidentals that I  
 want there…
 
 Someone got the solution?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Neal Gittleman
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Re: [Finale] Courtesy Accidentals

2012-05-21 Thread Neal Gittleman
Hmm…  I tried what you said, both in a transposed part and a non-transposed 
part.  In each case, when I went back in and changed the first F to F#, the 
accidental on the F# disappeared.

Neal

On May 21, 2012, at 5:52 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:

> Thanks for the update. That doesn't exactly fix the problem though.  
> What if you go F, then F# later in the measure, and Auto Freeze is  
> on? Then later you edit and decide to change the F to F# as well. Now  
> the second F# has a redundant accidental on it. I wouldn't call that  
> "working as expected."
> 
> Christopher
> 
> 
> On 21-May-12, at 21-May-12  5:37 PM, Neal Gittleman wrote:
> 
>> An update.  As suggested by Christopher, I opened a ticket with  
>> tech support, they got back to me, asked to see the file, and  
>> correctly identified the issue which was that Auto Freeze  
>> Accidentals was unchecked.  Checking it fixed the problem -- or at  
>> least returned Final to working the way I expected it to work…
>> 
>> Neal Gittleman
>> 
>>> 
>>> FinMac 2012a.r3, using Speedy Entry
>>> 
>>> All of a sudden, when I enter a courtesy accidental via the * key,  
>>> it disappears as soon as I leave the measure.  Had this problem  
>>> once before and someone gave me a fix -- something in Preferences,  
>>> I think.  But whatever it was, I can't find it, and it's annoying  
>>> to have the program continually suppressing accidentals that I  
>>> want there…
>>> 
>>> Someone got the solution?
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
>>> Neal Gittleman
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Re: [Finale] Courtesy Accidentals

2012-05-21 Thread Christopher Smith
Thanks for the update. That doesn't exactly fix the problem though.  
What if you go F, then F# later in the measure, and Auto Freeze is  
on? Then later you edit and decide to change the F to F# as well. Now  
the second F# has a redundant accidental on it. I wouldn't call that  
"working as expected."

Christopher


On 21-May-12, at 21-May-12  5:37 PM, Neal Gittleman wrote:

> An update.  As suggested by Christopher, I opened a ticket with  
> tech support, they got back to me, asked to see the file, and  
> correctly identified the issue which was that Auto Freeze  
> Accidentals was unchecked.  Checking it fixed the problem -- or at  
> least returned Final to working the way I expected it to work…
>
> Neal Gittleman
>
>>
>> FinMac 2012a.r3, using Speedy Entry
>>
>> All of a sudden, when I enter a courtesy accidental via the * key,  
>> it disappears as soon as I leave the measure.  Had this problem  
>> once before and someone gave me a fix -- something in Preferences,  
>> I think.  But whatever it was, I can't find it, and it's annoying  
>> to have the program continually suppressing accidentals that I  
>> want there…
>>
>> Someone got the solution?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Neal Gittleman
>
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Re: [Finale] Courtesy Accidentals

2012-05-21 Thread Neal Gittleman
An update.  As suggested by Christopher, I opened a ticket with tech support, 
they got back to me, asked to see the file, and correctly identified the issue 
which was that Auto Freeze Accidentals was unchecked.  Checking it fixed the 
problem -- or at least returned Final to working the way I expected it to work…

Neal Gittleman

> 
> FinMac 2012a.r3, using Speedy Entry
> 
> All of a sudden, when I enter a courtesy accidental via the * key, it 
> disappears as soon as I leave the measure.  Had this problem once before and 
> someone gave me a fix -- something in Preferences, I think.  But whatever it 
> was, I can't find it, and it's annoying to have the program continually 
> suppressing accidentals that I want there…
> 
> Someone got the solution?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Neal Gittleman

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Re: [Finale] Doubling Part

2012-05-21 Thread David H. Bailey
On 5/21/2012 2:55 PM, Neal Gittleman wrote:
> Greetings…
>
> Soon I'll be embarking on a Finale project that will involve several
> doubling parts (Flute/Piccolo, Oboe/English Horn, Clarinet/Bass
> Clarinet).  I'd appreciate any suggestions people have about most
> efficient procedures of how to do this.  Playback is not an essential
> element, though it would certainly make proofreading easier…
>

Using Staff Styles works great for that sort of thing.



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Re: [Finale] Doubling Part

2012-05-21 Thread Christopher Smith
If you are on 2012, it is dead easy. Click the first measure where  
you want the new instrument to appear, or else select a range of  
measures, then select Change Instrument from the menu. Playback and  
the score staff name will be correct too, if you started with the  
Setup Wizard.

There are really only two issues. One is between flute and piccolo or  
clar and bass clar, you won't be able to tell at a glance in which  
measure the instrument/transposition change happens. For oboe and  
english horn, you will see the key sig change. So I would mark it  
with a text expression immediately. Also be aware that instrument  
changes do not copy and paste like Staff Styles did, so you can  
easily copy music from one staff to another with no worries, and if  
you are copying a previous passage in the same staff, you have to  
make sure it's on the same instrument.

The other issue is if you are using chromatic transposition, or non- 
standard instruments like horn in E, F, G, A etc. all in the same  
staff. That answer is a little longer.

If you are 2011 or previous, use the staff styles. Assigning them to  
metatools would be easiest. Watch when you copy between staves that  
you DON'T copy the staff styles! Also watch that you don't hit the  
staff style metatool by accident. I used to have entire scores as  
Bass Clarinet because 4 was my metatool for that staff style, and I  
hit 4 when I was in the Staff Tool instead of the Selection Tool,  
intending to invoke Music Spacing. Yikes!

Christopher


On 21-May-12, at 21-May-12  2:55 PM, Neal Gittleman wrote:

> Greetings…
>
> Soon I'll be embarking on a Finale project that will involve  
> several doubling parts (Flute/Piccolo, Oboe/English Horn, Clarinet/ 
> Bass Clarinet).  I'd appreciate any suggestions people have about  
> most efficient procedures of how to do this.  Playback is not an  
> essential element, though it would certainly make proofreading easier…
>
> Thanks…
>
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[Finale] Doubling Part

2012-05-21 Thread Neal Gittleman
Greetings…

Soon I'll be embarking on a Finale project that will involve several doubling 
parts (Flute/Piccolo, Oboe/English Horn, Clarinet/Bass Clarinet).  I'd 
appreciate any suggestions people have about most efficient procedures of how 
to do this.  Playback is not an essential element, though it would certainly 
make proofreading easier…

Thanks…

Neal Gittleman
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Re: [Finale] F2012 extremely sluggish behaviour (mac)

2012-05-21 Thread SN jef chippewa

wow, yes an impressively noticeable difference, 
thanks!  i used to always have this option off so 
didn¹t think of it.

>Turn off automatic update layout in program 
>options. I think that's what I did to fix it. 
>It's a Mac thing, works fine on PC.


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Re: [Finale] text blocks with inserts disappear when edited

2012-05-21 Thread Michael Mathew
I can also duplicate this in an existing file.
 
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> From: SN jef chippewa 
>To: finale@shsu.edu 
>Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:18 AM
>Subject: Re: [Finale] text blocks with inserts disappear when edited
> 
>
>michael, are you on mac (what system?) or PC?  the support dude can't 
>recreate the problem
>
>>I tried each of the steps several times and can confirm your conclusion, also!
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Re: [Finale] text blocks with inserts disappear when edited

2012-05-21 Thread SN jef chippewa

i experienced the prob in docs with no libraries as well as ones 
based on my template.

it seems to only happen when hitting return after the insert, not 
before. which would suggest that when i move the cursor to the right 
of the text insert, finale acts as if the text insert has been 
*selected*, and therefore any typing would overwrite it...?

anyways, i sent your info on to MM support, thanks.

>I have an iMac from 2007 with 4 gigs memory
>I set up a file with no libraries and the insert text process worked 
>as you described in your original email.
>
>I can make the text disappear within the file or edit text dialogue box.
>Is it because there are no libraries?

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Re: [Finale] F2012 extremely sluggish behaviour (mac)

2012-05-21 Thread Dejan Badnjar
Turn off automatic update layout in program options. I think that's what I did 
to fix it. It's a Mac thing, works fine on PC.

Sent from my iPhone

On 2012-05-21, at 2:13 PM, SN jef chippewa  
wrote:

> 
> has anyone else noticed sluggish behaviour?  i am early on in a huge 
> score and it is taking 7 seconds to exit speedy entry.  fine, maybe 
> that isn't huge but this score is 160 pages and i am worried it is 
> just going to get much worse as i get further along.
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Re: [Finale] text blocks with inserts disappear when edited

2012-05-21 Thread Michael Mathew
I have an iMac from 2007 with 4 gigs memory
I set up a file with no libraries and the insert text process worked as you 
described in your original email.


open new doc from default; or create "new doc with no libraries" and 
create a text block with "Part/Score Name" insert

I can make the text disappear within the file or edit text dialogue box.
Is it because there are no libraries?

Let me know if you need more information.
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> From: SN jef chippewa 
>To: finale@shsu.edu 
>Sent: Monday, May 21, 2012 10:18 AM
>Subject: Re: [Finale] text blocks with inserts disappear when edited
> 
>
>michael, are you on mac (what system?) or PC?  the support dude can't 
>recreate the problem
>
>>I tried each of the steps several times and can confirm your conclusion, also!
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[Finale] F2012 extremely sluggish behaviour (mac)

2012-05-21 Thread SN jef chippewa

has anyone else noticed sluggish behaviour?  i am early on in a huge 
score and it is taking 7 seconds to exit speedy entry.  fine, maybe 
that isn't huge but this score is 160 pages and i am worried it is 
just going to get much worse as i get further along.

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Re: [Finale] text blocks with inserts disappear when edited

2012-05-21 Thread SN jef chippewa

michael, are you on mac (what system?) or PC?  the support dude can't 
recreate the problem

>I tried each of the steps several times and can confirm your conclusion, also!

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Re: [Finale] problem solved

2012-05-21 Thread Dana Friedman
At 12:30 PM 5/20/2012, you wrote:

>So I googled my problem and found about the loss of the suspect word
>"optimize" and the new way of hiding staves. All OK.


Cool. Sorry I couldn't answer sooner.

Best,
Dana 

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